Woof Player Awards Rnd 1 - Western Bulldogs vs WCE

[BulldogBelle]

R 1 - Western Bulldogs vs WCE

There are two awards that you can vote on, once the game is completed.

Voting closes each Tuesday at 8.00pm.

The first one is for the Joe Marmo Medal for the best players on the ground.

There are 4 votes allocated and it's a 4 for the best and of course 3, 2 and 1.

and

The second award is for the Ron James Medal for the best 2 pups on the ground.

2 Votes allocated - 2 being for the best pup and 1 for the runner-up
Remember the cut off age for a pup is 22 as at the 1st of January, 2012.

Pups available for selection –

Ace Cordy, Luke Dahlhaus, Tom Hill, Andew Hooper, Christian Howard, Liam Jones, Thomas Liberatore, Matthew Panos, Daniel Pearce, Fletcher Roberts, Jordan Roughead, Clay Smith, Michael Talia, Jason Tutt, Mitchell Wallis.

Rookie's – Tom Campbell, Alex Greenwood, Jason Johannisen, Lin Jong, Jack Redpath.
* Mark Austin (23yo – if elevated he’s not eligible for pup selection due to pup cut-off age)

Need to know more - The history of the WOOF Player Awards (http://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?t=10461)

[Hotdog60]

I'll start the ball rolling.

Marmo:

4 - Clay Smith
3 - Thomas Liberatore
2 - Luke Dalhaus
1 - Liam Picken

James:

2 - Clay Smith
1 - Thomas Liberatore

[Dry Rot]

Marmo:

4 - Clay Smith
3 - Luke Dalhaus
2 - Tom Liberatore
1 - Liam Picken


James:

2 - Clay Smith
1 - Luke Dalhaus

[Ghost Dog]

Marmo

4 - Clay Smith
3 - Luke Dalhaus
2 - Liam Picken
1 - Libba


James:

2 - Clay Smith
1 - Luke Dalhaus

[Go_Dogs]

4. Liberatore
3. Smith
2. Dahlhaus
1. Boyd

2. Liberatore
1. Smith

[SlimPickens]

4.Dahlhaus
3.Smith
2.Libba
1.Picken

2.Dahlhaus
1.Smith

[Rance Fan]

4 Dahlhaus
3 Picken
2 Libba
1 Smith

2 Dahlhaus
1 Libba

[DOG GOD]

4. Liberatore
3. Smith
2. Dahlhaus
1. Boyd

2. Liberatore
1. Smith

Yep griff, what I think as well.

[Greystache]

4. Smith
3. Dahlhaus
2. Libba
1. Picken

2. Smith
1. Dahlhaus

[mjp]

I'll start the ball rolling.

Marmo:

4 - Clay Smith
3 - Thomas Liberatore
2 - Luke Dalhaus
1 - Liam Picken

James:

2 - Clay Smith
1 - Thomas Liberatore

HD - how does Dalhaus get votes in the Marmo but miss out in the James?

[LostDoggy]

Marmo

4. Smith
3. Libba
2. Dahlhaus
1. Picken

James

2. Smith
1 . Dahlhaus

[Happy Days]

4. Liberatore
3. Picken
2. Smith
1. Dahlhaus

2. Liberatore
1. Smith

[azabob]

HD - how does Dalhaus get votes in the Marmo but miss out in the James?

He gave Liberatore and Smith more votes in the Marmo.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Marmo

4. Smith - I heard a whisper that he has sore hamstrings and that's why he was "Subbed off"
3. Libba
2. Dahlhaus
1. Picken

James

2. Smith
1 . Libba

[GVGjr]

HD - how does Dalhaus get votes in the Marmo but miss out in the James?


He's got it right though. His first two in the Marmo are the same two in the James

[GVGjr]

Marmo
4) Liberatore
3) Dahlhaus
2) Picken
1) Boyd

James
2) Liberatore
1) Dahlhaus

[always right]

4. Dahlhaus: When he gets the ball good always happens.
3. Smith: Impressive debut with ferocious attack on the ball
2. Picken: Stopped Kerr from strutting his stuff
1. Libba: Always constructive

2. Dahlhaus
1. Smith

[Ghost Dog]

Marmo
4) Liberatore
3) Dahlhaus
2) Picken
1) Boyd

James
2) Liberatore
1) Dahlhaus

No Clay smith in the James. You're a harsh man GVG.

[Remi Moses]

4.Dahlhaus
3.Smith
2.Libba
1.Picken

2.Dahlhaus
1.Smith

Ditto for me

[Hotdog60]

HD - how does Dalhaus get votes in the Marmo but miss out in the James?

Because I couldn't give Dalhaus more votes than my two highest Marmo which are also eligible for the James.;)

Interesting that our three best players on this forum (except Picken in some votes) are all junior players, good signs for the future but not so good for the present in some ways.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Marmo
4. Liberatore
3. Dahlhaus
2. Picken
1. Cross


James
2. Liberatore
1. Dahlhaus

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Marmo

4. Smith
3. Libba
2. Dahlhaus
1. Picken

James

2. Smith
1 . Dahlhaus

If you've rated Libba ahead of Dahlhaus in the Marmo, then he also must come before him in the James.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

No Clay smith in the James. You're a harsh man GVG.

I think people are getting carried away with his performance. He had 13 touches, had a couple of his kicks smothered, and 3 of his 4 goals were gimme's and the 4th a touch lucky.
A good debut and it augurs well for the future for the lad, but not really amongst the best 4 on the ground, heck not even in the best 2 of those eligible for the James.

[GVGjr]

No Clay smith in the James. You're a harsh man GVG.

I can't get Smith anywhere near BOG as some people have. Not even close.
He was good but there was no way in my opinion he was in the best 3. Perhaps if he played the full game I might have squeezed him in for a vote.

Liberatore was brilliant and worked his backside off. Dahlhaus was very exciting and took the game on plus I rated Kerr as a danger man and I was particularly impressed by Pickens ability to shut him down. That locked in the first 3 votes for me. The rest aren't close to it.

Boyd, Smith, Cross and Cooney were in the mix for the last spot and I went with Boyd.

[GVGjr]

If you've rated Libba ahead of Dahlhaus in the Marmo, then he also must come before him in the James.

Every year we have this problem. It can't be that hard. Basically we cancel out any votes for the James if they aren't consistent with the Marmo so the votes will be voided if they aren't edited.

[GVGjr]

I think people are getting carried away with his performance. He had 13 touches, had a couple of his kicks smothered, and 3 of his 4 goals were gimme's and the 4th a touch lucky.
A good debut and it augurs well for the future for the lad, but not really amongst the best 4 on the ground, heck not even in the best 2 of those eligible for the James.

Exactly right. Good performance no doubt but this looks like a case of emotion over reality for some people.

[bornadog]

4: Libba
3: Picken
2: Boyd
1: Dahlhaus

2. Libba
1. Dahlhaus

[azabob]

Marmo

4. Liberatore
3. Dahlhaus
2. Picken
1. Smith

James

Liberatore
Dahlhaus

[the banker]

Marmo

4 Liberatore
3. Dahlhaus
2. Smith
1. Higgins

James
Liberatore
Dahlhaus

[Bumper Bulldogs]

I think people are getting carried away with his performance. He had 13 touches, had a couple of his kicks smothered, and 3 of his 4 goals were gimme's and the 4th a touch lucky.
A good debut and it augurs well for the future for the lad, but not really amongst the best 4 on the ground, heck not even in the best 2 of those eligible for the James.

I really think on a day like this we need to look for a shinning light and Smith was it, yes one gimme but he was in the right place at the right time to take vantage of it.

[anfo27]

Marmo

4. Dahlhaus- smartest player on our list
3. Libba- chip off the old block
2. Picken- always gives you everything
1. Concrete- great debut

James
2. Dahlhaus
1. Libba

[G-Mo77]

Marmo
4. Liberatore
3. Dahlhaus
2. Picken
1. Cross


James
2. Liberatore
1. Dahlhaus

Exactly how I saw it Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

[AndrewP6]

4 Smith - yeah yeah, I know, it's only his first game. But for mine, 13 touches and 4 goals is easily enough for BOG.
3 Dahlhaus - to (badly) paraphrase Bert Newton, "I like the boy"
2 Picken - great job on Kerr
1 Willlbur - thought he was not bad around the ground.

2 Smith
1 Dahlhaus

[AndrewP6]

I really think on a day like this we need to look for a shinning light and Smith was it, yes one gimme but he was in the right place at the right time to take vantage of it.

Spot on. If only some more of our blokes could put themselves in the right place at the right time!

[GVGjr]

I really think on a day like this we need to look for a shinning light and Smith was it, yes one gimme but he was in the right place at the right time to take vantage of it.

I think it cheapens the voting to be honest. It seems it's more important to some to find a token gesture rather than accurately assessing the players performance.

[Doggy]

Marmo
4. Liberatore
3. Dahlhaus
2. Cross
1. Smith


James
2. Liberatore
1. Dahlhaus

[Hotdog60]

I think it cheapens the voting to be honest. It seems it's more important to some to find a token gesture rather than accurately assessing the players performance.

I thought his performance was first class for a player on debut, worked his arse to the stage he was cramping all over and absorbed some heavy hits and keep going and had a impact on the score board.

So his stats weren't as high as some but they had an influence, My view will always be governed by the TV as I cannot get to a game so I do have a shallow view of the game.

But I'll stand by my vote.:)

[GVGjr]

I thought his performance was first class for a player on debut, worked his arse to the stage he was cramping all over and absorbed some heavy hits and keep going and had a impact on the score board.

So his stats weren't as high as some but they had an influence, My view will always be governed by the TV as I cannot get to a game so I do have a shallow view of the game.

But I'll stand by my vote.:)

Stand by your vote all you like but not many players should get the chocolates on 3 quarters of football. I just don't see how anyone can go past Liberatore and Dahlhaus for the reasons I previously mentioned.

I think some are determined to salvage something from the game and giving Smith the BOG tick is in someway a small win for them. I was impressed by his performance but in my opinion he was a fair way back from Liberatore and Dahlhaus in particular and then Picken.

[AndrewP6]

I think some are determined to salvage something from the game and giving Smith the BOG tick is in someway a small win for them. I was impressed by his performance but in my opinion he was a fair way back from Liberatore and Dahlhaus in particular and then Picken.

And there's the beauty of a democratic vote - it's all subjective.

[LostDoggy]

4 - Libba
3 - Picken
2 - Dahlhaus
1 - Smith


2 - Libba
1 - Dahlhaus

[LostDoggy]

4 Lukey D
3 Tom Liberatore
2 Jordan Roughead
1 Liam Picken
Very honourable mentions to Clay Smith and Tory Dickson who both had memorable debuts.

2 Lukey D
1 Tom Liberatore

[Before I Die]

Because I couldn't give Dalhaus more votes than my two highest Marmo which are also eligible for the James.;)

Interesting that our three best players on this forum (except Picken in some votes) are all junior players, good signs for the future but not so good for the present in some ways.

No, I think it is exciting for the future and for now as well. Improvement happens when the experienced players continue to play well, but the young guns play even better. Boyd and Cross did today what they always do, but they are not featuring in the votes. This is a good thing. I know we lost and a lot of other players had poor games, but if Libba, Smith and Dahlhaus all place in the top ten this year we will have a reasonable to good year.

[chef]

3. Dahlhaus
2. Liberatore
1. Smith

2. Dahlhaus
1. Liberatore

[Desipura]

4 Lukey D
3 Tom Liberatore
2 Jordan Roughead
1 Liam Picken
Very honourable mentions to Clay Smith and Tory Dickson who both had memorable debuts.

2 Lukey D
1 Tom Liberatore
How? Smith with 4 goals did not do much wrong.

[Ozza]

4. L. Dahlhaus
3. T.Liberatore
2. L. Picken
1. C. Smith

RJ:
2. L.Dahlhaus
1. T. Liberatore

[LostDoggy]

4. Libba.. brilliant
3. Picken
2. Dahlhaus
1. Smith
Hargraeve next

2. Libba
1. Dahlhaus

[KT31]

4 - Libba
3 - Dahlhaus
2 - Picken
1 - Smith


2 - Libba
1 - Dahlhaus

[dadsgirl16]

4.Dahlhaus
3.Libba
2.Smith
1.Picken

2.Dahlhaus
1.Libba

[Maddog37]

Libba
Dalhaus
Minno
Smith



Libba
Dalhaus.

[BulldogBelle]

Marmo
4. Luke Dahlhaus
3. Tom Liberatore
2. Liam Picken
1. Daniel Cross

James
2. Luke Dahlhaus
1. Tom Liberatore

[BulldogBelle]

3. Dahlhaus
2. Liberatore
1. Smith

2. Dahlhaus
1. Liberatore


Chef, did you forget to add the '4' vote in the Marmo?

[Rocco Jones]

4- Dahl
3- Libba
2- Picken
1- Smith

I agree with GVG that votes shouldn't be relative to expecations etc but I couldn't find anyone else!

[chef]

Chef, did you forget to add the '4' vote in the Marmo?

No, I couldn't find anyone who deserved it.

[Bulldog4life]

4.Dahlhaus
3.Libba
2.Smith
1.Minno

2.Dahlhaus
1.Libba