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BulldogBelle
26-04-2012, 11:06 PM
This is the discussion thread for our Saturday afternoon game against GWS at Manuka Oval.

My predictions are:

The Dogs by 48 points
BOG : Matthew Boyd
Luke Dahlhaus to kick the first goal

Greystache
27-04-2012, 12:08 AM
Dogs by 65
BOG- Griffen
First Goal- Sherman

Eastdog
27-04-2012, 12:22 AM
Dogs by 74 points
BOG: Boyd
First Goal: Griffen

LostDoggy
27-04-2012, 09:13 AM
Dogs by 61 pts
BOG: Boyd
First Goal: Cooney

SlimPickens
27-04-2012, 09:16 AM
Dogs 42 pts
BOG- Dahl
First goal- Grant

bornadog
27-04-2012, 09:21 AM
Dogs: by 55

BOG: Murphy

First Goal: Jones

DragzLS1
27-04-2012, 09:29 AM
Dogs: 51 points

BOG: Griffen

First Goal: Grant snap

Looking forward to this game lets hope we show them how its done!

LostDoggy
27-04-2012, 09:32 AM
Dogs: 49 Points
BOG: Dahlhaus
First Goal: Sherman

Daughter of the West
27-04-2012, 10:04 AM
Dogs by 42
BOG: Murph
First goal: Sherman

1eyedog
27-04-2012, 10:39 AM
Dogs by 101 points
Adam Cooney first goal
Dahlhaus BOG with 25 disposals and 5 goals.

G-Mo77
27-04-2012, 10:50 AM
I thought this would have been aired Saturday afternoon. :mad:

Eastdog
27-04-2012, 10:56 AM
I thought this would have been aired Saturday afternoon. :mad:

I don't believe our match will be on free to air. Obviously it will be on Fox Footy but not everyone had Foxtel. Pretty much if you don't have Foxtel you'll have to tune in on the radio or find a live stream from somewhere.

G-Mo77
27-04-2012, 11:01 AM
I don't believe our match will be on free to air. Obviously it will be on Fox Footy but not everyone had Foxtel. Pretty much if you don't have Foxtel you'll have to tune in on the radio or find a live stream from somewhere.

Of course it's on Foxtel like all our games are. I have this Telstra crap and I don't get to see it until 4AM the next day. Yeah this new TV rights deal is great for the every day consumer. :rolleyes:

End rant.

Eastdog
27-04-2012, 11:25 AM
Of course it's on Foxtel like all our games are. I have this Telstra crap and I don't get to see it until 4AM the next day. Yeah this new TV rights deal is great for the every day consumer. :rolleyes:

End rant.

That's annoying because you would like to think the new TV rights deal benefits everyone as the AFL says but from what your saying G-Mo77 it clearly doesnt.

AndrewP6
27-04-2012, 06:16 PM
Dogs by 33
BOG Griffen
First goal Roald Dahlhaus

Go_Dogs
27-04-2012, 06:59 PM
Dogs by 86
BOG Boyd
First goal Higgins

LostDoggy
27-04-2012, 08:05 PM
I thought this would have been aired Saturday afternoon. :mad:

If I recall correctly, the time of this match was changed so Fox can broadcast it from 2.40 back to 1.40.

Dogs by 102
BOG Boyd with 45 Disp.
First Goal Dahl

Ghost Dog
27-04-2012, 10:57 PM
Dogs by 50
BOG Adam the Coon Dog Cooney
First Goal Ryan for the second week in a row.

bornadog
28-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Libba Sub.

Greystache
28-04-2012, 01:06 PM
Libba Sub.

He must be really sore, missed one game and now the sub!

I thought Higgins was an ideal sub, let the game slow down and him to come on for a burst.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 01:14 PM
I thought Higgins was an ideal sub, let the game slow down and him to come on for a burst.

I too thought it would be better if Higgins was the Sub again , he might be named as a forward but he will spend a lot of time in the midfield

I actually don,t like the idea of Libba as the Sub he's a confidence player who likes to get his hands dirty from the get go , Austin is straight in for Hargrave and will probably slot in at CHB

Dogs by 44
BOG Murphy
First Goal Djerrkura

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Topdog
28-04-2012, 01:40 PM
Jones in the backline??

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 01:44 PM
Jones in the backline??

I think the its supposed to be Austin at CHB , Jones CHF , Veszpremi at HB and Higgins on the bench

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Topdog
28-04-2012, 01:46 PM
stupid AFL website

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 01:54 PM
Not a good start, GWS pressure very good.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 01:55 PM
Could the commentators talk up GWS anymore ??? Geez :mad:

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 01:55 PM
GWS have been very good early. We need to get our act together.

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 01:57 PM
Smart kick by Wallis, Sherman needed to finish though.

MrMahatma
28-04-2012, 02:03 PM
Good grief we're sloppy.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 02:04 PM
Our skill level is disgraceful ... Too many unforced errors !!

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 02:07 PM
Ffs !!!

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 02:07 PM
Our skill level is disgraceful ... Too many unforced errors !!

Agreed, each disposal puts the next in line under more pressure. We're looking atrocious.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:07 PM
Just going too wide on a smaller ground , too many hard passes to clear , taking too long to move the ball allowing GWS to reset

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Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:09 PM
We just don't have a go to man up forward. It look really bad up there.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:10 PM
Could the commentators talk up GWS anymore ??? Geez :mad:

Why not, they at least are looking like an AFL side. We're disgusting.

MrMahatma
28-04-2012, 02:10 PM
If we can't score goals against this mob... well, those bells ringing at the moment must be alarm bells.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 02:11 PM
Is our game plan to handball in circles and then bomb to a contest?

Where is our run?

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:11 PM
Macca is going to give them a spray at quarter time.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Is our game plan to handball in circles and then bomb to a contest?

Where is our run?

Have we even got a game plan?

comrade
28-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Brian Lake is a waste of space.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:13 PM
We just don't have a go to man up forward. It look really bad up there.

Or in the middle, or in the back line, or in the interchange.

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 02:14 PM
Is our game plan to handball in circles and then bomb to a contest?

Where is our run?

It's mindboggling. We're so slow moving it, as soon as GWS go forward they have open space and people leading into it. We have no run, no movement. Our pressure and skill isn't good enough.

One of the worst quarters we've played in my years against a side we should account for comfortably.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:14 PM
Shocking clearing out of defence.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:15 PM
And they wonder why people don't want to spend their hard-earned on memberships. Pathetic.

The Pie Man
28-04-2012, 02:15 PM
We look like we're in slow motion. This is starting to scare me

Remi Moses
28-04-2012, 02:15 PM
Total embarrassment!!
:mad:

Twodogs
28-04-2012, 02:15 PM
We arent showing the opposition any respect and we are paying the price for it. Too much cute stuff from us, short kicks, going half pace at contests, handballs that leave the receiver under pressure are all costing us.

If we dont pull our fingers out soon or we'll be embarrassed

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:16 PM
We arent showing the opposition any respect and we are paying the price for it. Too much cute stuff from us, short kicks, going half pace at contests, handballs that leave the receiver under pressure are all costing us.

If we dont pull our fingers out soon or we'll be embarrassed

We already are

Grantysghost
28-04-2012, 02:17 PM
Exposed for legspeed ... Well done picken!

angelopetraglia
28-04-2012, 02:17 PM
I can not believe that. What has happened to our footy club?

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 02:18 PM
Exposed for legspeed ... Well done picken!

Yep, the same old theme, lack of pace and skill.

comrade
28-04-2012, 02:19 PM
We keep handballing to stationary targets and when we do get it out, we've got no genuine leg speed to move it forward.

We're the worst team to watch in the entire league.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 02:19 PM
We arent showing the opposition any respect and we are paying the price for it. Too much cute stuff from us, short kicks, going half pace at contests, handballs that leave the receiver under pressure are all costing us.

If we dont pull our fingers out soon or we'll be embarrassed

Exactly ... Port Adelaide will always be known as the first team beaten by Gold Coast. Looks like we'll be always known as GWS's first victims.

bornadog
28-04-2012, 02:19 PM
Exposed for legspeed ... Well done picken!

Exposed for bad skill errors.

comrade
28-04-2012, 02:19 PM
I can not believe that. What has happened to our footy club?

A decade of terrible drafting and development.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:20 PM
Terrible first quarter of football from us. We are the first team to score no goals in a quarter against GWS. :mad:

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 02:21 PM
A decade of terrible drafting and development.

Welcome to The Western Front !!

bornadog
28-04-2012, 02:22 PM
Once more we have the goons on Fox barracking for the opposition.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 02:22 PM
We keep handballing to stationary targets and when we do get it out, we've got no genuine leg speed to move it forward.

We're the worst team to watch in the entire league.

So we bomb to a bunch of kids.

Agree with the 2nd part... Just a horrible brand of footy.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:22 PM
We play the extra tall forward, yet don't kick it long to the dangerous spots.

What a pathetic quarter of football.

Doc26
28-04-2012, 02:23 PM
At least we're dominating the tackle count :rolleyes:

Doggy
28-04-2012, 02:23 PM
My lawn needs mowing.

choconmientay
28-04-2012, 02:23 PM
Where is our spirit? Where is the will to run and chase? Where is our pride?

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:24 PM
We've had all the play just can't move the ball effectively. GWS will tire and this will blow open, but it's a concern we can't cope with pressure being applied because good teams will do it for 4 quarters.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:24 PM
Once more we have the goons on Fox barracking for the opposition.

I don't blame them, we're embarrassing and pathetic. They have no reason to barrack for us at the moment.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:24 PM
And the Club is wondering where the members that have not re-signed have gone , they switched of the TV after the first quarter

I thought we were making some progress

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comrade
28-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Nice work rate from Cordy.

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:26 PM
Great repeat effort and goal from Cordy

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:27 PM
GWS can't even get their hands on the ball, we should be 8 goals up.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 02:28 PM
Geez we have some 'dumb' players in our team...

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:33 PM
Starting to get some reward for all our possession.

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 02:33 PM
Thank you Higgins. We're gaining the ascendency but need to make more of our chances.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:33 PM
Dominating this quarter. Higgins scores our 2nd and were in front.

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:34 PM
Here come the flood gates.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:34 PM
Thats more like it.

bornadog
28-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Who said we don't have pace
Go Sherman

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Better ... Still not good, but better

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Thank f*** for that.

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:36 PM
Ayce starting to look an AFL player.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:36 PM
Sherm is a very welcome addition. Good pace, works hard and celebrates a goal like no other.

Sedat
28-04-2012, 02:36 PM
Minson outstanding in the ruck - BOG by a mile so far

azabob
28-04-2012, 02:37 PM
Ayce starting to look an AFL player.

What have you liked about his game? I don't have fox.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:37 PM
Starting to take control back after that woeful 1st quarter. Griffen has been very good with 21 disposals.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:40 PM
Has anyone found a website that has live scores? The AFL one is still saying it's 1/4 time. :mad:

comrade
28-04-2012, 02:40 PM
Dunstall and his pro-GWS comments are giving me the shits. Give it a rest ya fat pig :D

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:41 PM
What have you liked about his game? I don't have fox.

Leading up well, continual repeat efforts, winning one on one contests. Playing very well.

Has a heap of hard work to do still, but has huge upside.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:42 PM
Dunstall and his pro-GWS comments are giving me the shits. Give it a rest ya fat pig :D

He he. :D

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:43 PM
Has anyone found a website that has live scores? The AFL one is still saying it's 1/4 time. :mad:

It's live now.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:43 PM
Has anyone found a website that has live scores? The AFL one is still saying it's 1/4 time. :mad:

Not very good at all from the afl website. Sportal I think has the live scores or if you don't have fox the radio. See how that goes. Dogs up by 11 points. 37-28

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 02:43 PM
has anyone found a website that has live scores? The afl one is still saying it's 1/4 time. :mad:

wb 37 gws 28

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:45 PM
It's live now.

Thanks, have found another one. It's prettier, and more up to date. :)

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/live-scores/

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Dunstall and his pro-GWS comments are giving me the shits. Give it a rest ya fat pig :D

Starting to bug me now too :D

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:46 PM
Thanks everyone!! :)

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 02:48 PM
Wood and Addison terrible then in back half!

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 02:49 PM
why is Wood still in the team....

bornadog
28-04-2012, 02:50 PM
Umpiring pathetic . Cameron gets a push in the back when it wasn't there. Then he pushes Austin clearly in the back and kicks another goal

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 02:50 PM
Funniest line of the day: "Dogs spreading, Cross the quickest"...

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 02:50 PM
Good reply goal by Boyd. Too close for comfort.

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 02:51 PM
im very scared of the thought of next friday night

Greystache
28-04-2012, 02:53 PM
Cooney can still finish.

Dogs 50-35

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:54 PM
im very scared of the thought of next friday night

I'll go as I don't want to waste my membership, but I'll be taking a book to read if things get ugly. :D

comrade
28-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Funniest line of the day: "Dogs spreading, Cross the quickest"...

That's one of our problems. Cross is one of our only mids who busts a nut to provide an option on the spread. With his foot skills, he shouldn't be playing that role.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 02:55 PM
Cooney can still finish.

Dogs 50-35

7 goal quarter - now that's more like it!! :)

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 02:59 PM
Minson outstanding in the ruck - BOG by a mile so far

Hits it to the opposition to much!

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 03:01 PM
8 goal quarter much better effort ... But our skill level is deplorable ... We don't trust our first instinct, which means we get caught way too often. This tells me the players still don't understand the new game plan being instilled by the new coaches. The players are second guessing themselves and not playing instinctively.
We look second rate against a second division team !!

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 03:01 PM
Dahlhaus looking a little off today. Minson has been good, as has Cordy and Wallis. Sherman is getting involved. Jones another who seems to be stagnating a bit at the moment. Overall a big improvement in the 2nd but we're a long way off the better sides.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 03:01 PM
Much better in that quarter. We now in the 3rd quarter have to kick on from here and hopefully get a comfortable win.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 03:03 PM
Much better finish to that quarter , good solid pressure to lock the ball in , a Sheedy Flood choked up the space and we did,nt add another 3 or 4 goals

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Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 03:04 PM
26 disposals for Griff in a 1/2! BOG

Hotdog60
28-04-2012, 03:04 PM
Dahlhaus looking a little off today. Minson has been good, as has Cordy and Wallis. Sherman is getting involved. Jones another who seems to be stagnating a bit at the moment. Overall a big improvement in the 2nd but we're a long way off the better sides.

I wonder if he is carrying a injury as he looks short on for pace and there was a couple of times he would have laid tackles but didn't commit.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 03:05 PM
Dahlhaus looking a little off today. Minson has been good, as has Cordy and Wallis. Sherman is getting involved. Jones another who seems to be stagnating a bit at the moment. Overall a big improvement in the 2nd but we're a long way off the better sides.

He isn't being helped by the fact our foot skills are extremely poor and that he is now drawing the no.1 defender, but it would be nice if he can get his hands on the ball a bit more.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 03:07 PM
26 disposals for Griff in a 1/2! BOG

Griff has been one of our best.

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 03:09 PM
I wonder if he is carrying a injury as he looks short on for pace and there was a couple of times he would have laid tackles but didn't commit.

Yep, I had the same impression. Normally he'd be doing everything to lay those tackles, but has lacked that today.



He isn't being helped by the fact our foot skills are extremely poor and that he is now drawing the no.1 defender, but it would be nice if he can get his hands on the ball a bit more.

No doubt, he's got just about the most unenviable role in the AFL at the moment, but his positioning and leading has been a concern. He's not really on a world-beating opponent today either, Davis is going to be a good player, but he's still a kid at the moment.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 03:09 PM
26 disposals for Griff in a 1/2! BOG

I,m sure Macca told him to some in closer to the contest to help clear the ball , he and Sherman have found some space , our wide play in the first quarter on the smaller ground was useless , if we dominate the corridor we win the game

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Mantis
28-04-2012, 03:10 PM
No doubt, he's got just about the most unenviable role in the AFL at the moment, but his positioning and leading has been a concern. He's not really on a world-beating opponent today either, Davis is going to be a good player, but he's still a kid at the moment.

And Jones is a seasoned veteran??

bornadog
28-04-2012, 03:11 PM
No doubt, he's got just about the most unenviable role in the AFL at the moment, but his positioning and leading has been a concern. He's not really on a world-beating opponent today either, Davis is going to be a good player, but he's still a kid at the moment.

He doesn't excatly get the ball delivered to him like a forward should. We keep expecting him to take a big contested mark.

immortalmike
28-04-2012, 03:11 PM
26 disposals for Griff in a 1/2! BOG

By stats yes but his first quarter was shocking disposal wise. His second was much, much better. Was one of the reasons we got back into the game.

F'scary
28-04-2012, 03:12 PM
22 points up at half time, we have to win by at least 10 goals to erase the humiliation of the goalless first qtr

Prince Imperial
28-04-2012, 03:13 PM
Jones need a much better second half or he will be in the VFL next week. -4 dreamtime points to half time. :(

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 03:18 PM
Hey how many goals have Jones kicked this year?
Anyone

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 03:19 PM
And Jones is a seasoned veteran??

Where did I say he was? This is one of the more even match ups he'll get all season - I was expecting him to at least break even.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 03:20 PM
hey how many goals have jones kicked this year?
Anyone

5 - he averages a goal a game

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AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 03:20 PM
Libba subbed in. Waiting to see who's got the red vest.

EDIT: Roughy subbed out.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 03:21 PM
Hey how many goals have Jones kicked this year?
Anyone

5 goals, 5 points. :)

(not including todays game)

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 03:23 PM
Jones 1 disposal in 1st half!

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Speaking of Jones lining up for goal. One strength of Jones is his contested mark.

Greystache
28-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Jones 1 disposal in 1st half!

Contested mark and goal to start the second.

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Yeh! Mark n goal Jones.

Roughy subbed out

azabob
28-04-2012, 03:25 PM
Libba subbed in. Waiting to see who's got the red vest.

Have they told us yet?

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Libba subbed in. Waiting to see who's got the red vest.

EDIT: Roughy subbed out.

Roughead Subbed off

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AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Have they told us yet?

Roughy.

Rocco Jones
28-04-2012, 03:26 PM
Roughy subbed out. Hopefully it's a sign we won't go with Will, Cordy and Roughy in the same side for awhile.

azabob
28-04-2012, 03:27 PM
Roughy.

Thanks Andrew.

Rocco Jones
28-04-2012, 03:28 PM
Roughy subbed out. Hopefully it's a sign we won't go with Will, Cordy and Roughy in the same side for awhile.

That is assuming Markovic is right btw. Do not like the look of Austin...

azabob
28-04-2012, 03:28 PM
Roughy subbed out. Hopefully it's a sign we won't go with Will, Cordy and Roughy in the same side for awhile.

Roughead could be injured. We have gone very early otherwise.

Greystache
28-04-2012, 03:30 PM
Dahlhaus nice finish.

Agree he doesn't look to be moving as freely today.

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 03:31 PM
nice goal DJ!

Greystache
28-04-2012, 03:32 PM
Wallis looks a lot more comfortable with the pace of the game all of a sudden. He's starting to utilize his smarts rather than being panicked when he gets the ball.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 03:32 PM
A bit more comfortable now as DJ goals.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 03:35 PM
Libba 6 disposals which is a good effort since coming on as a sub. Jones marks again.

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 03:37 PM
that was awesome from Griff

Greystache
28-04-2012, 03:42 PM
How can a player like Higgins, who was an elite shot for goal when drafted, spend 6 years as a professional footballer and now be lucky to score when kicking at goal?*!

Ghost Dog
28-04-2012, 03:42 PM
Higgins! Shocking misses. Dominating but no reward

angelopetraglia
28-04-2012, 03:42 PM
They are better than us at moving the ball in transition. We used to be the best in the league at doing that. We are now the worst.

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 03:43 PM
Grant in back half.!

Whats a deer with no eyes - no eye deer
Whats a deer with no eyes n legs - still no eye deer <--- see Grant in back half

azabob
28-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Who is picking up Jeremy Cameron?

bornadog
28-04-2012, 03:45 PM
I love Picken

Greystache
28-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Wow Picken is smart around goal, I'd love to see him play forward more.

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Everytime we bomb it into the 50...they get the ball and all our players just stop
Im struggling to work out how we beat melbourne last week

Ghost Dog
28-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Liam pickegreat snap

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 03:48 PM
Wow Picken is smart around goal, I'd love to see him play forward more.

do you want to take that back now??

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 03:49 PM
Picken marks on the end of a nice kick from Lake inside 50. Then plays on....:confused::confused:

Rocco Jones
28-04-2012, 03:52 PM
Wow Picken is smart around goal, I'd love to see him play forward more.

There he goes and does that.... but I still agree.

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 03:53 PM
Jones took a couple of nice marks in the 3rd, hopefully he can get on the end of a couple more in the last.

We've been very wasteful and made some strange decisions in the forward half today. We really need some poise forward of centre.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 03:54 PM
I don't want to get political here, but with our current leader maybe the Prime Minister's Cup is the most appropriate name for this game ... Very average skill from both sides.

bornadog
28-04-2012, 03:56 PM
I don't want to get political here, but with our current leader maybe the Prime Minister's Cup is the most appropriate name for this game ... Very average skill from both sides.

Yeah you are right don't go there..... Hehe

F'scary
28-04-2012, 03:57 PM
I don't want to get political here, but with our current leader maybe the Prime Minister's Cup is the most appropriate name for this game ... Very average skill from both sides.

What did we do to deserve the honour of playing in the Prime Minister's Cup? Oh wait...

azabob
28-04-2012, 03:57 PM
I don't want to get political here, but with our current leader maybe the Prime Minister's Cup is the most appropriate name for this game ... Very average skill from both sides.

Then why open up the possibility of a discussion?

bornadog
28-04-2012, 03:58 PM
How good is Libba

GVGjr
28-04-2012, 03:58 PM
How good was that handball by Liberatore?

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:00 PM
Let's really kick away from here and finish strongly.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 04:03 PM
Second time I've used the word today ... Deplorable umpiring !!

F'scary
28-04-2012, 04:03 PM
I don't want to get political here, but with our current leader maybe the Prime Minister's Cup is the most appropriate name for this game ... Very average skill from both sides.

does this mean she is also #1 ticket holder at GWS?

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 04:03 PM
i haven't agreed with any of the calls for Jones to be dropped but after today's effort i now agree. He needs a spell

EasternWest
28-04-2012, 04:09 PM
Geez I love Dahlhaus.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:10 PM
Geez I love Dahlhaus.

He's great and has that excitement factor.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 04:12 PM
Ward took his eyes off the ball ... Deliberately tried to hurt Dahlhaus ... Should have been reported !!

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 04:16 PM
Ward took his eyes off the ball ... Deliberately tried to hurt Dahlhaus ... Should have been reported !!

and silverback Dunstall's 1st thought was it wasn't a free kick

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:16 PM
Griff career high of 36 possessions.

bulldogsthru&thru
28-04-2012, 04:17 PM
im not impressed that we decided to shut up shop with 10minutes left

Mantis
28-04-2012, 04:17 PM
Ward took his eyes off the ball ... Deliberately tried to hurt Dahlhaus ... Should have been reported !!

You've got to be kidding.

Ward had no time to react, free kick = yes, reportable = not a chance.

Ghost Dog
28-04-2012, 04:17 PM
Awful. Being shown a lesson by a gassed out gws

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:19 PM
We have definitely taken the foot off the pedal at least get the margin above 46 pts.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 04:20 PM
We have definitely taken the foot off the pedal at least get the margin above 46 pts.

Why is the no.46 important?

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:21 PM
Why is the no.46 important?

Adelaide beat GWS by 46 last week.

azabob
28-04-2012, 04:21 PM
Why is the no.46 important?

I think Eastdog is referring to GWS lowest losing margin is 45 points

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:22 PM
I think Eastdog is referring to GWS lowest losing margin is 45 points

Thanks azabob.

angelopetraglia
28-04-2012, 04:22 PM
How good is Jeremy Cameron going to be? Star in the making.

Scraggers
28-04-2012, 04:23 PM
You've got to be kidding.

Ward had no time to react, free kick = yes, reportable = not a chance.

No I'm not kidding ... He had one intent and that was to hurt Dahlhaus. It was never about protecting himself, he took his eyes off the ball then shaped to cause injury.

angelopetraglia
28-04-2012, 04:25 PM
No I'm not kidding ... He had one intent and that was to hurt Dahlhaus. It was never about protecting himself, he took his eyes off the ball then shaped to cause injury.

Agree. Could have been very dangerous if Dalhaus landed differently. Ward went the man and not the ball from a long way out.

EasternWest
28-04-2012, 04:26 PM
How good is Jeremy Cameron going to be? Star in the making.

Good hands, good kick, leads to the right places. A lot to like.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 04:28 PM
2 wins in a row. We just got the job done.

F'scary
28-04-2012, 04:29 PM
final score 104 to 62. 42 points. Not bad I suppose considering it was played at a neutral ground interstate.

angelopetraglia
28-04-2012, 04:30 PM
That was our worst performance for the year. We were worse than the StKilda game at certain stages. Some big issues;

-our skill level is deplorable
-we can't hit a target to save ourselves
-zero spread, GWS spread much better than us
-we don't appear to run harder enough (is that a mind set or conditioning?)
-non functioning forward line

It's going to be a long, dark winter for us .....

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 04:31 PM
2 wins in a row. We just got the job done.

Another ugly game , just need to re-group re-cover and re-arm for the Collingwood game , and against the Pies we will need a strong first quarter

.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 04:33 PM
final score 104 to 62. 42 points. Not bad I suppose considering it was played at a neutral ground interstate.

Not bad? We were (are) woeful.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 04:33 PM
No I'm not kidding ... He had one intent and that was to hurt Dahlhaus. It was never about protecting himself, he took his eyes off the ball then shaped to cause injury.


Agree. Could have been very dangerous if Dalhaus landed differently. Ward went the man and not the ball from a long way out.

You guys are on drugs.

Ward only took his eyes off the ball at the last second when Luke came into his vision. At this point he went no harder then you would expect a player in his position to go. The incident was made to look worse by Luke's leg action.

Hotdog60
28-04-2012, 04:33 PM
That was an absolutely pathetic performance and no Bulldog supporter should be happy with that effort.

Our skills have really dropped off, I kinda wonder if they took GWS seriously and just played for the win.

No happy Jan

Go_Dogs
28-04-2012, 04:33 PM
2 wins in a row. We just got the job done.

Ugliest 2 game winning streak ever? A positive is that we did kick 15 goals in 3 quarters. :D

Seriously, still a bit to like today, Cordy and Wallis particularly. Griffen was good, as was Cooney, and the reliable suspects also did their usual thing (Picken, Boyd, Crossy etc). One of Sherman's better games in Dogs colours. Minson was good too.

Couple of tough games ahead now against Collingwood and North.

bornadog
28-04-2012, 04:34 PM
That was our worst performance for the year. We were worse than the StKilda game at certain stages. Some big issues;

-our skill level is deplorable
-we can't hit a target to save ourselves
-zero spread, GWS spread much better than us
-we don't appear to run harder enough (is that a mind set or conditioning?)
-non functioning forward line

It's going to be a long, dark winter for us .....

The worst?

You obviously didnt watch the Saints game. 2 goals for the game till the 25 min mark of the last quarter

bornadog
28-04-2012, 04:35 PM
You guys are on drugs.

Ward only took his eyes off the ball at the last second when Luke came into his vision. At this point he went no harder then you would expect a player in his position to go. The incident was made to look worse by Luke's leg action.

Ward should have kept his eyes on the ball

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 04:36 PM
im not impressed that we decided to shut up shop with 10minutes left

I'm not impressed we decided to shut up shop at about 1.40 pm

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 04:38 PM
That was the least satisfying win I've seen oin a while. Is there such a thing as a disappointing win?

bornadog
28-04-2012, 04:43 PM
Well it wasn't a pretty win, but happy we won.

Mantis
28-04-2012, 04:43 PM
Ward should have kept his eyes on the ball

He would have got killed if he did as he would have been completely open.

He showed awareness of his surroundings, but obviously gave away a free kick.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 04:46 PM
Is there such a thing as a disappointing win?

not with the season the dogs are having. Beggars can't be choosers.

Can someone talk me through Lake today? Was listening to the radio and Drew Morphett (however it is spelt), said "two years ago Lake was all Australian, now he'll struggle to be all western suburbs". Has he been that bad lately?

Doc26
28-04-2012, 04:49 PM
We got what it was, a contest between 2 of the bottom 5 teams in the league.

Easton Wood's development is concerning.

Maybe continue with Grant back and give T Hill a go up forward.

Ghost Dog
28-04-2012, 04:56 PM
That was the least satisfying win I've seen oin a while. Is there such a thing as a disappointing win?

I have to Agree with you 100% Andrew. That was VFL level at best. Can't believe how easily they got it end to end.

chef
28-04-2012, 04:59 PM
not with the season the dogs are having. Beggars can't be choosers.
Can someone talk me through Lake today? Was listening to the radio and Drew Morphett (however it is spelt), said "two years ago Lake was all Australian, now he'll struggle to be all western suburbs". Has he been that bad lately?

Yep, could be our last one for a little while.

chef
28-04-2012, 05:02 PM
We got what it was, a contest between 2 of the bottom 5 teams in the league.

Easton Wood's development is concerning.

Maybe continue with Grant back and give T Hill a go up forward.

He was drafted as a very good athlete and a average footy player. Not much has changed and I would be surprised if he's still on our list in a couple of seasons..

Rocco Jones
28-04-2012, 05:05 PM
We got what it was, a contest between 2 of the bottom 5 teams in the league.

Easton Wood's development is concerning.

Maybe continue with Grant back and give T Hill a go up forward.

Overselling us a bit there, 2 of the bottom 4.

always right
28-04-2012, 05:11 PM
One word...appalling.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 05:57 PM
Who is picking up Jeremy Cameron?

The 3 umps. 5 goals should have maybe 1 or 2. Free for a push, pushes himself no problem, dropped mark, a handball to Libba is called a throw then a blatant one is ok.

azabob
28-04-2012, 06:00 PM
The 3 umps. 5 goals should have maybe 1 or 2. Free for a push, pushes himself no problem, dropped mark, a handball to Libba is called a throw then a blatant one is ok.

Ah ok then!

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 06:00 PM
Given we were terrible in the first quarter, I think we did alright afterward.
The margin was made smaller by some awful pro Giants umpiring.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 06:17 PM
Can someone talk me through Lake today? Was listening to the radio and Drew Morphett (however it is spelt), said "two years ago Lake was all Australian, now he'll struggle to be all western suburbs". Has he been that bad lately?

Anyone see the game that can answer this?

Hotdog60
28-04-2012, 06:21 PM
Lake was just as ordinary as everyone else, he was no different.

Some of his passing was ok and could have set up a goal with some good movement only Picken played on when he should have settled for a shot. Because of the state of the game it's hard to tell on his form, we'll have to wait another week.

bulldogsman
28-04-2012, 06:30 PM
Geez, everyone sounds so positive. Should I even bother watching the replay?

Hotdog60
28-04-2012, 06:34 PM
Geez, everyone sounds so positive. Should I even bother watching the replay?

You won't get anything exciting out of it. It was truly a scrappy game on both sides and the skills were very poor.

F'scary
28-04-2012, 06:35 PM
Not bad? We were (are) woeful.

yep - fair call, I was trying to put a positive perspective to it. The margin doesn't look all that bad on paper but, especially given the opposition, we know our style of play & skills were way below what we were at 2 years ago.

Rance Fan
28-04-2012, 06:42 PM
Anyone see the game that can answer this?

Well he still way off his best. As for today well Izzy had the better of him early on!

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 06:42 PM
It was if there is such a thing a disappointing win. That first quarter was really bad and in general our skill level was awful. We have really plummeted down from where we were a few years ago.

FrediKanoute
28-04-2012, 07:11 PM
I haven't watched it yet, but will and will post some comments, bur from what people are describing it sounds much like what we have dished up thus far this year......which from a positive perspective at least means that we are consistent.

G-Mo77
28-04-2012, 07:20 PM
I'll watch it during the week, glad we weren't the first.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 07:24 PM
I'll watch it during the week, glad we weren't the first.

Thanks goodness for that because then we would have been the biggest news story of the weekend for negative reasons.

Bulldog4life
28-04-2012, 07:37 PM
Geez, everyone sounds so positive. Should I even bother watching the replay?

One of the very very few bulldog wins that I won't be watching again!

comrade
28-04-2012, 08:29 PM
which from a positive perspective at least means that we are consistent.

This made me grin.

LostDoggy
28-04-2012, 09:12 PM
Very uninspiring. It was always going to be a game of few winners.
Out on the full so many times? I think we went down to their level, lots of dogs ambling around.

The ground and coverage was equally poor. Rucciuto shouldn't be there.

The SANFL is a better spectacle than that.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 09:14 PM
How did Hargrave and Roughead pull up after the match.

azabob
28-04-2012, 09:27 PM
How did Hargrave and Roughead pull up after the match.

Hargrave didn't play. Not sure if Roughead is injured or not.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 09:30 PM
Hargrave didn't play. Not sure if Roughead is injured or not.

Thanks for that.

azabob
28-04-2012, 09:34 PM
Thanks for that.

Hargrave should be right to play next week according to the coach.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 09:36 PM
Hargrave should be right to play next week according to the coach.

What injury did Hargrave have?

azabob
28-04-2012, 09:41 PM
What injury did Hargrave have?

McCartney said he was tight in his hip, whatever that means.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 09:44 PM
McCartney said he was tight in his hip, whatever that means.

Maybe he wanted to rest him for the match today and have him right and ready to go next week for the Pies.

ReLoad
28-04-2012, 10:36 PM
I'm just very thankful that im leaving the country 2 hours before the collingwood game, that will be amazingly ugly.

Dahlhouse is excluded from this, but we seriously do not have a potential match winner in our side. there is nobody on our list who even looks like becoming a superstar. Some honest tryers yes, but matchwinners? No.

Continuing to persist with known spuds on our list isnt going to get us anywhere, lets just hope the massive broom sweeps through ASAP. Its time to play Hill, Talia, Campbell etc. because we cannot play any worse than we already are. We have nothing to lose and only to gain, these kids need game time. Grant, Addison, Higgins etc do not. (as well as the other list cloggers; hooper, mulligan, moles etc)

Ghost Dog
28-04-2012, 10:53 PM
I'm just very thankful that im leaving the country 2 hours before the collingwood game, that will be amazingly ugly.

Dahlhouse is excluded from this, but we seriously do not have a potential match winner in our side. there is nobody on our list who even looks like becoming a superstar. Some honest tryers yes, but matchwinners? No.

Continuing to persist with known spuds on our list isnt going to get us anywhere, lets just hope the massive broom sweeps through ASAP. Its time to play Hill, Talia, Campbell etc. because we cannot play any worse than we already are. We have nothing to lose and only to gain, these kids need game time. Grant, Addison, Higgins etc do not. (as well as the other list cloggers; hooper, mulligan, moles etc)

Liam Jones took some great contested marks. If he could only kick straight. Potential superstar IMO

jeemak
28-04-2012, 11:02 PM
Lake was just as ordinary as everyone else, he was no different.

Some of his passing was ok and could have set up a goal with some good movement only Picken played on when he should have settled for a shot. Because of the state of the game it's hard to tell on his form, we'll have to wait another week.

I nearly smashed my TV when this happened. It was very very annoying to see picken attempt to play on boundary side when settling was clearly the best option.

Lake struggled today, as did a lot of our players. He's coming from a long way back mentally, though I hope it will only take a couple of good games strung together to get him back in to some form.

BTW - Nobody should listen to Drew Morphet. He's a fool.

Eastdog
28-04-2012, 11:16 PM
Liam Jones took some great contested marks. If he could only kick straight. Potential superstar IMO

That is the part of his game he needs to get better in. If he does get better at his kicking he will be a great player. I said in a post a while back that he is very much like Travis Cloke in that his kicking also isn't crash hot but his marking is very good.

AndrewP6
28-04-2012, 11:30 PM
I just got done watching the match, recorded it today. Had to go out, usually I'm unhappy about that, but I didn't mind so much today. :eek:

FrediKanoute
28-04-2012, 11:31 PM
This made me grin.

I try :D

On a slightly serious note though, I think the drastic drop off in skill we are seeing this year is in large part due to the emphasis of getting bodies around the ball. The congestion close in makes clean handling and use difficult. I suspect though that this is something BMac is happy to accept, because the pressure it brings though ugly, once learnt will mean that the opposition will have to play at a similar intensity in order to compete.

Ghost Dog
29-04-2012, 12:11 AM
I try :D

On a slightly serious note though, I think the drastic drop off in skill we are seeing this year is in large part due to the emphasis of getting bodies around the ball. The congestion close in makes clean handling and use difficult. I suspect though that this is something BMac is happy to accept, because the pressure it brings though ugly, once learnt will mean that the opposition will have to play at a similar intensity in order to compete.

How much pressure was there on the GWS kids today? Jogged down into our 50 and some of them didn't even look like they were breaking a sweat.

bornadog
29-04-2012, 12:42 AM
not with the season the dogs are having. Beggars can't be choosers.

Can someone talk me through Lake today? Was listening to the radio and Drew Morphett (however it is spelt), said "two years ago Lake was all Australian, now he'll struggle to be all western suburbs". Has he been that bad lately?

Lake was ok today with 22 disposals, some nice run and carry and some good marking. The ball didn't travel much into the GWS forward line after quarter time so Lake, Murphy didn't have much to do.

LostDoggy
29-04-2012, 01:27 AM
Sam Reid got some nice career bests.

Desipura
29-04-2012, 07:35 AM
Lake was ok today with 22 disposals, some nice run and carry and some good marking. The ball didn't travel much into the GWS forward line after quarter time so Lake, Murphy didn't have much to do.
Well then why didnt the coach move Murphy forward? I think you are being kind to Murphy, he was beaten by Townsend.

Greystache
29-04-2012, 12:18 PM
Sam Reid got some nice career bests.

He has a pretty low starting base.

azabob
29-04-2012, 02:40 PM
Sam Reid got some nice career bests.


He has a pretty low starting base.

Also we must keep in mind this was his first game of the year in a first year team. I love Reid's attitude and commitment but he is no different to Cross, Smith, Liberatore, Addison and Wallis except for the fact he'd be behind them all in the pecking order.

Raw Toast
30-04-2012, 07:51 PM
Continuing to persist with known spuds on our list isnt going to get us anywhere, lets just hope the massive broom sweeps through ASAP. Its time to play Hill, Talia, Campbell etc. because we cannot play any worse than we already are. We have nothing to lose and only to gain, these kids need game time. Grant, Addison, Higgins etc do not. (as well as the other list cloggers; hooper, mulligan, moles etc)

There's a fair few people of this opinion, but I'm very wary of this kind of approach.

Strong teams are built by rewarding form, not just playing all the kids. Josh Kennedy said he had noticed that at Sydney no one gets brought into the side unless they have been knocking the door down.

Contrast this with Melbourne who got rid of their leaders and have struggled with a list of kids who should be much better. It took them 4 weeks to finally start playing at the required intensity, as opposed to us who have at least been playing intense footy for most of the season so far (with the exception of large chunks of the Saints game).

Once someone has done enough to be promoted, they need to be given 3-4 games to prove themselves. But it generally does the kids no good to give them a game when they haven't been playing at a high enough level to deserve it. Let them show they are good enough and then back them in, rather than putting them in too early and letting them be smashed and turned into the new scapegoats. Moreover, Addison has been our best defender so far this year, while Grant has been showing some good signs and Higgins had a decent-ish game.

Ghost Dog
30-04-2012, 10:57 PM
There's a fair few people of this opinion, but I'm very wary of this kind of approach.

Strong teams are built by rewarding form, not just playing all the kids. Josh Kennedy said he had noticed that at Sydney no one gets brought into the side unless they have been knocking the door down.

Contrast this with Melbourne who got rid of their leaders and have struggled with a list of kids who should be much better. It took them 4 weeks to finally start playing at the required intensity, as opposed to us who have at least been playing intense footy for most of the season so far (with the exception of large chunks of the Saints game).

Once someone has done enough to be promoted, they need to be given 3-4 games to prove themselves. But it generally does the kids no good to give them a game when they haven't been playing at a high enough level to deserve it. Let them show they are good enough and then back them in, rather than putting them in too early and letting them be smashed and turned into the new scapegoats. Moreover, Addison has been our best defender so far this year, while Grant has been showing some good signs and Higgins had a decent-ish game.

Did you catch us against GWS? Was so bad I was wondering where Phil Cleary was at half time in his dry-as-a bone. That was until I realized I was watching AFL and not VFL.

G-Mo77
01-05-2012, 10:37 AM
Lake was ok today with 22 disposals, some nice run and carry and some good marking. The ball didn't travel much into the GWS forward line after quarter time so Lake, Murphy didn't have much to do.

Didn't rate Lake's game at all, happy with the stats for SC purposes but thought he was quite poor overall. He's got to do more considering he's the leader down back.

This was a really tough game to sit through. I actually forced myself to sit there and watch the whole game yesterday I would have been better off doing something else. I hope it's just the case of a poor team dragging us down to their level but we're not that great anyway. :o

It's going to be tough sitting at the Dome Friday night. I think it's going to be a really long night.

bornadog
01-05-2012, 10:59 AM
Didn't rate Lake's game at all, happy with the stats for SC purposes but thought he was quite poor overall. He's got to do more considering he's the leader down back.

This was a really tough game to sit through. I actually forced myself to sit there and watch the whole game yesterday I would have been better off doing something else. I hope it's just the case of a poor team dragging us down to their level but we're not that great anyway. :o

It's going to be tough sitting at the Dome Friday night. I think it's going to be a really long night.

My point is that GWS only had 37 inside 50's, ie 9 per quarter and Lake had 22 disposals or almost 6 per quarter, so he repelled most of their attacks. (in theory, some disposals were gained outside their 50).

Agree Lakes first quarter was poor, but after that he was ok.

As for Friday night, I may end up leaving mid way through the last quarter, something I have never done:o

LostDoggy
01-05-2012, 04:54 PM
As for Friday night, I may end up leaving mid way through the last quarter, something I have never done:o

Just two and a bit years ago we were on opposite sides of the Prelim draw from the Pies and should have made the GF while they were losing to Geelong. Just a year and a bit ago we were again on either side of the Prelim draw, only this time they actually made it past Geelong while we once again fell down to the Saints.

How do we go from that to 18 months later and we're scared shitless that they'll kick a cricket score against us?

I'm still baffled by how quickly we've fallen off the pace.

LongWait
01-05-2012, 06:05 PM
Just two and a bit years ago we were on opposite sides of the Prelim draw from the Pies and should have made the GF while they were losing to Geelong. Just a year and a bit ago we were again on either side of the Prelim draw, only this time they actually made it past Geelong while we once again fell down to the Saints.

How do we go from that to 18 months later and we're scared shitless that they'll kick a cricket score against us?

I'm still baffled by how quickly we've fallen off the pace.

You shouldn't be - we've traded so many draft picks for players over the past few years and, whilst some were good for a couple of years (Hall, Akermanis, the Beard) we have received very little return from our "mature" traded players this this year. If we had kept all of our picks and instead drafted 18 year olds I'll bet we would be in much better shape this year. We gambled and lost.

The Bulldogs Bite
01-05-2012, 07:49 PM
Just two and a bit years ago we were on opposite sides of the Prelim draw from the Pies and should have made the GF while they were losing to Geelong. Just a year and a bit ago we were again on either side of the Prelim draw, only this time they actually made it past Geelong while we once again fell down to the Saints.

How do we go from that to 18 months later and we're scared shitless that they'll kick a cricket score against us?

I'm still baffled by how quickly we've fallen off the pace.

A lot changes in two years though.

West Coke couldn't even beat themselves; now they are the best side in the competition.

We were 'up' for a while and weren't good enough. Time to rebuild for another (and hopefully better) crack at it in 3 or so years time.