Please help

[LostDoggy]

Hi all,
I'm calling out to the biggest of all Western Bulldogs geeks, Or should I say Footscray Bulldogs geeks.
My father recently moved and sent me some of my old stuff. One of the items it the pile was an old flag that I thought was lost years ago. It was a gift from my now late uncle and is signed by quite a few of the Footscray players of that year. I am thinking I'd like to get it framed which brings me to the dilemma of not knowing what year it is from.
My wife suggested I "ask the guys on that forum you visit" (her words) so here it goes...
I know is from around the 1985 - 1990 era I just would like to pin point which year, so I'm hoping one of you woofers are a signature expert and can cross reference it to a player list from the mid to late 80s?
Well it is worth a shot anyhow?

P.S I hope the pictures are clear and upload correctly.

[LostDoggy]

And the lower close up.

[GVGjr]

Suggest that bulldogsfight might be worth contacting as he is an avid collector.
Send him a Private message because there wouldn't be too much that he doesn't know about

[GVGjr]

I can see a number of signatures like Beasley, Royal, Magic McLean, Shorty Daniels and MacPherson and I think I see Brian Cordy's. I think I also see Alistair Ford.

That might place it around 85

[GVGjr]

The Coon Dog could probably get a few more names

[GVGjr]

Andrew (Polly) Pursers name looks like it's there as well. Great pick up HM

[LostDoggy]

On the d2.jpg is 'Andrew Purser' if I'm not mistaken. So that would cut out the 89, 90 years wouldn't it?

[LostDoggy]

posted that one at the same time sorry.

[GVGjr]

Purser played between 83 and 87. I'm tending to think this is from 85 because if the Allen Daniels name is correct he only played in 85 and 86 and Alistair Ford's last season with us was in 85.

[Remi Moses]

Purser left at the end of 87.
Reckon Alistair Ford was at Stkilda in 85.

[GVGjr]

Purser left at the end of 87.
Reckon Alistair Ford was at Stkilda in 85.

He played with the Saints in 86 and 87

[Doc26]

Purser played between 83 and 87. I'm tending to think this is from 85 because if the Allen Daniels name is correct he only played in 85 and 86.

I'd say 1985 as it was Alistair Ford's last season with us and Graeme Cordy's debut was in 1985 (finished with us end of '86). Both signatures are on the flag. Unless of course Graeme signed the flag prior to his debut.

[GVGjr]

I'd say 1985 as it was Alistair Ford's last season with us and Graeme Cordy's debut was in 1985 (finished with us end of '86). Both signatures on the flag.

I think the problem has been solved HM :)

[Remi Moses]

He played with the Saints in 86 and 87

Thankfully. Built like Tarzan, played like Jane. Thought he was going to be a star.

[LostDoggy]

That's why I threw it up here. I don't remember players like Allan Daniels, so it is going to take signatures like that for woofers to remember to get the exact year.
The ones I can make out, Hawkins, Foster, Choc Royal, MacPherson they played into the 90s. And i remember getting the flag so that would eliminate the pre '85 year (I was born in 1980 so doubt I'd remember before 5yo that well).

[LostDoggy]

I think the problem has been solved HM :)

Ask and thou shalt receive.

I'll let the disscussion keep going a bit, but I hope it ends with it being a 1985 flag. As it was one of our better years.
Just missed a GF. Brownlow to Hardie. Coleman to The Pieman. 5 year old Midget gets a flag.

[Doc26]

Ask and thou shalt receive.

I'll let the disscussion keep going a bit, but I hope it ends with it being a 1985 flag. As it was one of our better years.
Just missed a GF. Brownlow to Hardie. Coleman to The Pieman. 5 year old Midget gets a flag.

Fairly sure that Neil Peart's signature sits below the Bulldog to the left (under Andrew Purser's) and he only played for us in 1985. In 84 and 86 he was on Richmond's list.

[LostDoggy]

Fairly sure that Neil Peart's signature sits below the Bulldog to the left (under Andrew Purser's) and he only played for us in 1985. In 84 and 86 he was on Richmond's list.

I have always wondered whose signature is next to that one? It is the only one signed with a marker. Any ideas?

[Twodogs]

OK. Right underneath the bulldog symbol is Peter Foster and next to him I'm pretty sure is Robert Groenewegan. Ricky Kennedy is next to the bulldog's tail and (I think) Angelo Petraglia above him, Michael MacLean is above the dog's right ear and Jim Sewell underneath him. The bottom right hand corner is Simon Beasley and Steve MacPherson is above him.


I'll try and get some more tomorrow.

[Topdog]

I have NFI but i love these types of threads.

[Twodogs]

And given the absence of either Jim Edmond's or Neil Cordy's autographs I'd say that this would be 1986.

[bornadog]

And given the absence of either Jim Edmond's or Neil Cordy's autographs I'd say that this would be 1986.

Peart only played in 1985 season. Is his signature the one near Foster?

[Twodogs]

Peart only played in 1985 season. Is his signature the one near Foster?


To the left with a little stick figure type of thing BAD? Between Foster and Hawkins? Because it's in texta and not pen I'm thinking it's not a player's signature. I reckon someone has drawn on it.

[bornadog]

To the left with a little stick figure type of thing BAD? Between Foster and Hawkins? Because it's in texta and not pen I'm thinking it's not a player's signature. I reckon someone has drawn on it.

I think I have the wrong signature as Fosters. What is the signature under Purser, it looks like a Neil?

[Twodogs]

I think I have the wrong signature as Fosters. What is the signature under Purser, it looks like a Neil?


I've got Fossie directly underneath the 'LLDO' of BULLDOGS.

[bornadog]

I've got Fossie directly underneath the 'LLDO' of BULLDOGS.

Yes see that now.

Did you work out the Neil to the right of it, under the Purser signature?

Also above the bulldogs head, to me looks like another Foster signature?

[Twodogs]

Yes see that now.

Did you work out the Neil to the right of it, under the Purser signature?

Also above the bulldogs head, to me looks like another Foster signature?

Haha, I think Fossie has signed it twice! That's such a Peter Foster thing to do.:D


Above the bulldogs right ear is Michael Maclean, Fossie above the left ear, Brian Royal and Allen Daniels.

I cant make out who that is underneath Polly's autograph. Also given it's got Allistair Ford's sig on it I dont know that it is 1986 now. Unless it was really early in '86 and Edmond and Cordy have left for Sydney but Ford hasnt been cleared to St Kilda yet.

[bornadog]

Haha, I think Fossie has signed it twice! That's such a Peter Foster thing to do.:D


Above the bulldogs right ear is Michael Maclean, Fossie above the left ear, Brian Royal and Allen Daniels.

I cant make out who that is underneath Polly's autograph. Also given it's got Allistair Ford's sig on it I dont know that it is 1986 now. Unless it was really early in '86 and Edmond and Cordy have left for Sydney but Ford hasnt been cleared to St Kilda yet.

Maybe it was signed twice. Orginally in 1985 (When Peart was there), and then again in 1986 - Foster then signs again?

[LostDoggy]

And given the absence of either Jim Edmond's or Neil Cordy's autographs I'd say that this would be 1986.

I was thinking Neil Cordy's signature was the one next to McLean and under Graeme Cordy's?
Top right of flag. Hard to see.

[firstdogonthemoon]

best thread

[LostDoggy]

best thread

Well it is helping me out extremely. Thanks to everyone throwing their thoughts in.
If anyone wants to have a crack at them all I won't object.
I love the dogs but some of these signatures are beyond me.

[Remi Moses]

Neil Peart was excellent in 85, and very much as unsung hero.
Pretty good cricketer as well.

[bornadog]

Neil Peart was excellent in 85, and very much as unsung hero.
Pretty good cricketer as well.

Is Neil Peart's signature under Pursers? Pursers is left bottom of Bulldog?

[Chicago1]

1985? *sigh* So close... Damn that Matthews!:mad:

[LostDoggy]

1985? *sigh* So close... Damn that Matthews!:mad:

Maybe I should get Lethal to sign over the top of it before I get it framed?