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bornadog
29-11-2013, 12:35 PM
link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-saints-and-magpies-preparing-war-chests-for-2014-free-agent-period/story-fni5f22o-1226770765122)

HAWTHORN is set to turn the tables in the free agency market next year with a large war chest to poach a superstar midfielder.

The Hawks seem likely to have a third crack at Fremantle's David Mundy, the man who threatened to wrest the Grand Final from their clutches.

After losing free agent Lance Franklin to Sydney last month, sources estimate the Hawks will have almost $1 million in their salary cap to chase a big name in next year's exchange period.

Mundy is one of an array of stars in next year's batch of free agency talent.

Carlton pair Bryce Gibbs and Marc Murphy will both be free agents, as will Melbourne key defender James Frawley, North Melbourne ruckman Todd Goldstein and Collingwood duo Dane Swan and Ben Reid.

The smooth-moving Mundy underlined his status as an A-grade midfielder this year, hauling the Dockers off the canvas in a brilliant Grand Final performance.

David Mundy was superb in Fremantle's Grand Final loss. He had 28 touches, seven clearances and eight tackles and finished third in Norm Smith Medal voting.

Hawthorn and Essendon have long been admirers of Mundy, who will demand up to $700,000 a season over about four years on his next deal at Fremantle and even more to head home to Victoria.

The Hawks tried to lure Mundy in 2008 and in 2010 when the clearance specialist admitted the temptation to be closer to family in Victoria was strong.

As he has with his past two deals, the 28-year-old is likely to wait until well into the year to decide his future, but it would be a huge call to leave the Dockers.

He is a priority signing for list chief Brad Lloyd, who has transformed an ageing squad in 2007 into a premiership contender.

James Frawley could look to get out of Melbourne as the club continues to rebuild.
Dockers teammate Nat Fyfe, 22, is also out of contract next year and would command in excess of $800,000 over three seasons.

Also coming out of contract at Fremantle are Michael Barlow, Jonathan Griffin, Aaron Sandilands and Matthew Pavlich.

Other clubs are likely to have salary cap room, making for an active trade market.

Collingwood has cleared as much as $1.5 million of salary cap space with the departures of Dale Thomas, Heath Shaw, Alan Didak, Ben Johnson and Darren Jolly.

Hawthorn has similar space after the departures of Franklin (offered $1.1 million a year), Shane Savage, Brent Guerra and Max Bailey.

Harry O'Brien may want to leave Collingwood after a toug...
Harry O’Brien may want to leave Collingwood after a tough 2013. Source: News Limited
St Kilda is preparing for a huge free agency bid. It lost Nick Dal Santo (on more than $600,000 a season) to North Melbourne and Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne and Jason Blake retired, after well-paid midfielder Brendon Goddard left for Essendon the previous year.

Brisbane Lions have the cash to replace Jonathan Brown with a top forward for the 2015 season. Simon Black has retired, and many emerging players left and were replaced by draftees.

Fyfe and West Coast's Nic Naitanui are not free agents but, with their star power, will write their own contracts.

Naitanui will be offered $1.5 million a season by Greater Western Sydney, which sees him as the perfect role model for the club.

Gold Coast trio David Swallow, Harley Bennell and Brandon Matera also have multiple suitors, showing why the Suns preferred to save their money this year to retain their stars.

North Melbourne would go hard at the brother of Roos captain Andrew, as would Perth clubs keen for him to return home.

Shannon Hurn will be hotly pursued but Matthew Pavlich is going nowhere.

AUSTRALIA'S MOST WANTED

The free agents most exercising the minds of AFL recruiters

David Mundy (Frem) 28

The midfielder topping every Victorian club's wish list. Superstar. RISK: Medium

James Frawley (Melb) 25

Surely couldn't suffer another season at the bottom. Wants finals. RISK: High

Ben Reid (Coll) 24

Value sky-rocketing now that he can do it at both ends but won't leave. RISK: Low

Dane Swan (Coll) 29

Says he is a Pie for life but list turnover throws up question. RISK: Low

Bryce Gibbs (Carl) 24

Only three Brownlow votes in each of the past two seasons. RISK: Low

Shaun Higgins (WB) 25

Career savaged by injuries. No shock if he wanted fresh start. RISK: Medium

Todd Goldstein (NM) 25

No reason to leave but big pay day looms for consistent ruck. RISK: Low

Lachie Hansen (NM) 25

No.3 draft pick hit straps last year, but is his spot safe? RISK: Medium

Harry O'Brien (Coll) 27

After the circus last year, who knows what will happen. RISK: Medium

Shannon Hurn (WCE) 26

Adelaide clubs always interested but a leader at West Coast. RISK: Low

No chance to leave:

Marc Murphy (Carl), Travis Boak (Port), Sam Mitchell (Haw), Luke Hodge (Haw), Steve Johnson (Geel), James Kelly (Geel), Andrew Walker (Carl), Kade Simpson (Carl), Jarrad Waite (Carl), Adam Goodes (Syd), Matthew Boyd (WB), Will Minson (WB), Robert Murphy (WB), Matthew Pavlich (Frem), Aaron Sandilands (Frem), Matt Priddis (WCE).

ledge
29-11-2013, 01:12 PM
Griffin won't leave either, he is loyal and the club is just starting to show a new climb up the ladder. Why would he leave ?

Bulldog Joe
29-11-2013, 01:45 PM
Griffin won't leave either, he is loyal and the club is just starting to show a new climb up the ladder. Why would he leave ?

With Griffin behind Sandilands at Freo he could well be interested in going somewhere as the No 1 ruck.

His form was pretty good before injury in 2013.

KT31
29-11-2013, 01:46 PM
Well managed by the club and a great position for us to be in if our only concern is Shaun leaving.
Imagine the club would have an idea of Griff and Wills contracts already

bulldogtragic
29-11-2013, 02:00 PM
Should we have traded Shaun this year? Just asking.

Happy Days
29-11-2013, 02:03 PM
Should we have traded Shaun this year? Just asking.

Nope; like Williams he is more valuable to us than what we would be able to get for him.

mighty_west
29-11-2013, 02:24 PM
Should we have traded Shaun this year? Just asking.

Unless we could have unlikely snagged pick one with pick 4 or Patton, sure, but given the talent he oozes do you think we could have dealt a deal we would want given his history with injuries?

Another year on with hopefully a free run with injury and playing to his full potential will make him a more valuable commodity for the club.

Bulldog4life
29-11-2013, 03:56 PM
Unless we could have unlikely snagged pick one with pick 4 or Patton, sure, but given the talent he oozes do you think we could have dealt a deal we would want given his history with injuries?

Another year on with hopefully a free run with injury and playing to his full potential will make him a more valuable commodity for the club.

Good point.

The Doctor
30-11-2013, 07:57 AM
Ben Reid, would be a perfect fit for us.

Hard to see him leaving Collingwood. They will have plenty of $$ to wheel & deal with after all those departures.

bulldogtragic
30-11-2013, 10:34 AM
Taking into account Stew will be taking serious coin, and As for retirements Gia is on the vets list, young guns need more, I'm not sure we'd have enough cap room to make a $700,000 type raid could we?

azabob
30-11-2013, 11:10 AM
Taking into account Stew will be taking serious coin, and As for retirements Gia is on the vets list, young guns need more, I'm not sure we'd have enough cap room to make a $700,000 type raid could we?

I don't think a $700,000 type raid suits our sense of style and it goes against the grain of what we are trying to build.

bulldogtragic
30-11-2013, 11:28 AM
I don't think a $700,000 type raid suits our sense of style and it goes against the grain of what we are trying to build.
I'm not so sure. If Hawthorns Roughead wanted to come to us, or we thought we could get him, I don't think we would bork. PGordon said we would be active in this FA, just we didn't have a real target who was a FA. I think we would handle it better than other teams, like the way we were with Stew and Essendon.

KT31
30-11-2013, 11:45 AM
I don't think a $700,000 type raid suits our sense of style and it goes against the grain of what we are trying to build.

Would it be much difference than us taking Crameri this year ?

Remi Moses
30-11-2013, 01:11 PM
Reid and Frawley would be nice .
Might be a chance if it's true that some of the players don't like Bucks

LostDoggy
30-11-2013, 04:18 PM
Reid as a F/A and one of the "unable to get a game but heaps of potential" GWS tall forwards would do us nicely for next year. That would round us out I think!

Remi Moses
30-11-2013, 08:20 PM
Reid as a F/A and one of the "unable to get a game but heaps of potential" GWS tall forwards would do us nicely for next year. That would round us out I think!

There recruiting gives an indication that someone might fall out.
Patton, Cameron , Boyd and Mccarthey .
One to many key forwards ?

chef
01-12-2013, 10:55 AM
There recruiting gives an indication that someone might fall out.
Patton, Cameron , Boyd and Mccarthey .
One to many key forwards ?

Don't forget Tomlinson and Jaksch

bulldogtragic
01-12-2013, 11:25 AM
We should treat GWS with the respect they showed us with Ward and the rules against poaching.

Happy to take any of their talls.

LostDoggy
01-12-2013, 12:17 PM
We should treat GWS with the respect they showed us with Ward and the rules against poaching.

Happy to take any of their talls.

Think it might work in our favour the other way. The Cameron connection might help us if we keep good relations going with them. Hope the Sam "chips" Darley trade is an indication of good relations between the two clubs.

Don't forget also that the Sam "stable pony" Reid trade netted us Prudden who has shown some good signs so the actual trading history is pretty positive.

Did we get bent over when GWS took their single best midfielder and certainly strongest Captain from us? Hell yeah. But never forget it was the AFL that slipped our pants down.

ratsmac
01-12-2013, 06:20 PM
I think every club would love Reid, including Collingwood. It would take a decent offer to get him. It would be nice though!

bornadog
01-03-2014, 05:55 PM
link (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-saints-and-magpies-preparing-war-chests-for-2014-free-agent-period/story-fni5f22o-1226770765122)

HAWTHORN is set to turn the tables in the free agency market next year with a large war chest to poach a superstar midfielder.

The Hawks seem likely to have a third crack at Fremantle's David Mundy, the man who threatened to wrest the Grand Final from their clutches.

After losing free agent Lance Franklin to Sydney last month, sources estimate the Hawks will have almost $1 million in their salary cap to chase a big name in next year's exchange period.

Mundy is one of an array of stars in next year's batch of free agency talent.

Carlton pair Bryce Gibbs and Marc Murphy will both be free agents, as will Melbourne key defender James Frawley, North Melbourne ruckman Todd Goldstein and Collingwood duo Dane Swan and Ben Reid.

The smooth-moving Mundy underlined his status as an A-grade midfielder this year, hauling the Dockers off the canvas in a brilliant Grand Final performance.

David Mundy was superb in Fremantle's Grand Final loss. He had 28 touches, seven clearances and eight tackles and finished third in Norm Smith Medal voting.

Hawthorn and Essendon have long been admirers of Mundy, who will demand up to $700,000 a season over about four years on his next deal at Fremantle and even more to head home to Victoria.

The Hawks tried to lure Mundy in 2008 and in 2010 when the clearance specialist admitted the temptation to be closer to family in Victoria was strong.

As he has with his past two deals, the 28-year-old is likely to wait until well into the year to decide his future, but it would be a huge call to leave the Dockers.

He is a priority signing for list chief Brad Lloyd, who has transformed an ageing squad in 2007 into a premiership contender.

James Frawley could look to get out of Melbourne as the club continues to rebuild.
Dockers teammate Nat Fyfe, 22, is also out of contract next year and would command in excess of $800,000 over three seasons.

Also coming out of contract at Fremantle are Michael Barlow, Jonathan Griffin, Aaron Sandilands and Matthew Pavlich.

Other clubs are likely to have salary cap room, making for an active trade market.

Collingwood has cleared as much as $1.5 million of salary cap space with the departures of Dale Thomas, Heath Shaw, Alan Didak, Ben Johnson and Darren Jolly.

Hawthorn has similar space after the departures of Franklin (offered $1.1 million a year), Shane Savage, Brent Guerra and Max Bailey.

Harry O'Brien may want to leave Collingwood after a toug...
Harry O’Brien may want to leave Collingwood after a tough 2013. Source: News Limited
St Kilda is preparing for a huge free agency bid. It lost Nick Dal Santo (on more than $600,000 a season) to North Melbourne and Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne and Jason Blake retired, after well-paid midfielder Brendon Goddard left for Essendon the previous year.

Brisbane Lions have the cash to replace Jonathan Brown with a top forward for the 2015 season. Simon Black has retired, and many emerging players left and were replaced by draftees.

Fyfe and West Coast's Nic Naitanui are not free agents but, with their star power, will write their own contracts.

Naitanui will be offered $1.5 million a season by Greater Western Sydney, which sees him as the perfect role model for the club.

Gold Coast trio David Swallow, Harley Bennell and Brandon Matera also have multiple suitors, showing why the Suns preferred to save their money this year to retain their stars.

North Melbourne would go hard at the brother of Roos captain Andrew, as would Perth clubs keen for him to return home.

Shannon Hurn will be hotly pursued but Matthew Pavlich is going nowhere.

AUSTRALIA'S MOST WANTED

The free agents most exercising the minds of AFL recruiters

David Mundy (Frem) 28

The midfielder topping every Victorian club's wish list. Superstar. RISK: Medium

James Frawley (Melb) 25

Surely couldn't suffer another season at the bottom. Wants finals. RISK: High

Ben Reid (Coll) 24

Value sky-rocketing now that he can do it at both ends but won't leave. RISK: Low

Dane Swan (Coll) 29

Says he is a Pie for life but list turnover throws up question. RISK: Low

Bryce Gibbs (Carl) 24

Only three Brownlow votes in each of the past two seasons. RISK: Low

Shaun Higgins (WB) 25

Career savaged by injuries. No shock if he wanted fresh start. RISK: Medium

Todd Goldstein (NM) 25

No reason to leave but big pay day looms for consistent ruck. RISK: Low

Lachie Hansen (NM) 25

No.3 draft pick hit straps last year, but is his spot safe? RISK: Medium

Harry O'Brien (Coll) 27

After the circus last year, who knows what will happen. RISK: Medium

Shannon Hurn (WCE) 26

Adelaide clubs always interested but a leader at West Coast. RISK: Low

No chance to leave:

Marc Murphy (Carl), Travis Boak (Port), Sam Mitchell (Haw), Luke Hodge (Haw), Steve Johnson (Geel), James Kelly (Geel), Andrew Walker (Carl), Kade Simpson (Carl), Jarrad Waite (Carl), Adam Goodes (Syd), Matthew Boyd (WB), Will Minson (WB), Robert Murphy (WB), Matthew Pavlich (Frem), Aaron Sandilands (Frem), Matt Priddis (WCE).

Bump

When should we lock in Higgins? or should we?

chef
01-03-2014, 06:19 PM
I'd like to wait and see if he fits into Macca's system first.

G-Mo77
01-03-2014, 06:58 PM
Bump

When should we lock in Higgins? or should we?

It's a tough call, he's talented enough and I know Macca loves him but he has constantly struggled with health as far back as I can remember. Personally I'd wait until end of year and see how he holds up.

bulldogtragic
01-03-2014, 07:13 PM
It's a tough call, he's talented enough and I know Macca loves him but he has constantly struggled with health as far back as I can remember. Personally I'd wait until end of year and see how he holds up.
X 2

At this point in time I'd bet on the clubs part that a 3 year $1.1 million offer wouldn't be offered by anyone, so time should be on our side. And like with Cooney seasons last, if he does well it's just reward.