2014 Game Day Round 4 - GWS Giants V Western Bulldogs

[Eastdog]

Dogs by 22 points
Hunter to get the first goal
Griffen to be best on ground

[Greystache]

Dogs by 45
Libba BOG
First goal- Hunter

[Ozza]

Dogs by 18 points
Higgins BOG
Jones first goal.

[LostDoggy]

GWS by a goal. Sorry boys, I'm just really concerned about this match.
Macrae best on again.
Crameri first goal.

[bornadog]

Dogs by 35 points
BOG: Libba
First Goal: Jones

Very confident.

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 43
BOG: Stevens
First goal: Hunter

[Daughter of the West]

Dogs by 7, another nail biter
First goal: Jones
BOG: Macrae

[bulldogtragic]

Dogs by 14, assuming its last week's team, they're my favourite! :)
Goal, Minson
BOG, Hunter

[Go_Dogs]

Dogs by 23
BOG Cooney
First Goal Higgins

[Bulldog Joe]

Dogs by 38
BOG Libba
First Goal - Gia

[boydogs]

Giants by 17
BOG Cooney
First Goal Crameri

[Remi Moses]

Dogs by 13 pts
BOG Libba
1st Goal Jones

[wimberga]

Dogs by 22 points
Libba BOG
Gia first goal.

[The Underdog]

Dogs by 23
First goal - Gia
BOG - Griffen

[Doggy]

Dogs by 30
first goal Jones
BOG Libba

[Twodogs]

Dogs by 41
First goal Gia
BOG Macrae

[LostDoggy]

Dogs to win by 11
First goal kicked by Hunter
Best on the ground will be Morris

[Scorlibo]

Dogs by 32
First goal Griffen
BOG Hunter

[westdog54]

Dogs by 25.
Gia (starting on the ground this week) first goal.
Libba BOG.

Would be brilliant to go into next week a game clear of Carlton AND Richmond. Make it happen DOGS!

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 41
First goal Gia
BOG Macrae

Confident? :D I think it will be a long long time until we beat this side by 41 points. You can get $5.25 for that margin.

No value in this game at all I'll be happy with just a win!

Dogs by 5 points

Gia first goal

Cooney BOG

[F'scary]

I don't understand why we are such clear favourites in the media tipping and with the betting shops.

We win a low scoring close contest - <=12 points.
BOG: Mitch Wallis (completely blankets Ward and picks up 20 possessions himself with 68% disposal accuracy).
First Goal: Tom Young overlaps for a long one at HFF after running off Patton who doesn't bother to follow his opponent.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Dogs by 13 points
First goal: Hunter
BOG: Libba

[Pickenitup]

Mumford Out For them

[bornadog]

Mumford Out For them

Tomlinson comes in.

Subs: Tutt

and Lamb for them

[LostDoggy]

I don't understand why we are such clear favourites in the media tipping and with the betting shops.

We win a low scoring close contest - <=12 points.
BOG: Mitch Wallis (completely blankets Ward and picks up 20 possessions himself with 68% disposal accuracy).
First Goal: Tom Young overlaps for a long one at HFF after running off Patton who doesn't bother to follow his opponent.

It can only be the venue I suppose, but without Roughy and an underdone Griffen a buck 60 is way to short for mine.

They have a Powerful strikeforce up forward (we are lucky Devon is out) and without Roughy we are up against it.

Minson is the key if we lose the Ruck we are gone.

[LostDoggy]

Mumford Out For them

Massive just massive out. Minson must dominate.

[LostDoggy]

Into $1.52

[AndrewP6]

Mumford out is a huge loss for them.
Dogs by 11 points
BOG Libba
First goal Crameri

[EasternWest]

Anyone using the Footy Live app? Anyone know what's happened to match day?

[GVGjr]

A bit of an untidy game at the moment but it was nice to get the first goal via Crameri

[bulldogtragic]

Is it me (probably) but I don't remember Minson always lying across every pack like rugby union. Is this new or has Will been lying over packs longer than this year to the same degree?

[Eastdog]

What do you guys make of the sand in the ground.

[AndrewP6]

So according to Foxtel cretins, we werent worthy of our first goal. Their bias is appalling.:mad:

[Eastdog]

So according to Foxtel cretins, we werent worthy of our first goal. Their bias is appalling.:mad:

Very biased indeed. I thought it was a good first goal.

[AndrewP6]

What do you guys make of the sand in the ground.

It's embarrassing to have games for premiership points played on what is little better than a suburban ground.

[Scorlibo]

We're being dominated at the moment. Just have to weather the storm for the moment.

ps. Dwayne Russell is the worst commentator out.

[Ghost Dog]

W'ere in trouble

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

GWS giving us a belting. We just don't looked switched on. The ball has been hardly sighted in our forward line. Like in rnd 1 & 2 we are handballing to guys under pressure and overusing the ball in general.

[G-Mo77]

Yeah doesn't sound to good from radio but it's hard to translate barracking. Hopefully we settle.

Out for the evening without phone coverage from now onwards. If we get belted I'll come back in here Monday. :)

[Eastdog]

We have been crap.

[always right]

Insipid so far. No sense of urgency.....and we have to listen to Dwayne as well.

Jong has started really poorly.

[Mantis]

Battling.. Look slow across the ground and our ball use has been poor.

Hopefully we can get back into it with the use of the breeze.

[always right]

Where's the spark? Second to the ball and waiting for something to happen.

[The Pie Man]

Mids/Minson copping a bath. Tipped Giants but expected better than this. No good

[bornadog]

This is embarrassing

[Scorlibo]

Insipid so far. No sense of urgency.....and we have to listen to Dwayne as well.

Jong has started really poorly.

Yep. Stringer's handball wasn't ideal but Jongy's butter fingers mean we're a goal further away than we ought to be.

Dwayne is like an excitable child whenever GWS go near the ball. His bias is just astounding, and it happens every time he calls one of our games.

[Greystache]

Let's hope it gets better from here.

Getting slaughtered out of the Middle.

[always right]

I fear the worst for Morris.

[1eyedog]

That's better. Go Dogs.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

How many times is that moron Dwayne Russell going to call Macrae Higgins?

[Greystache]

Any danger Stringer will get in front once this season?

[AndrewP6]

Any danger of Dwayne getting players names right? He's called Macrae, "Higgins" at least four times.

[Eastdog]

Awful surface. Like we are playing on the beach.

[Scorlibo]

Picken and Wood the unlikely heroes thus far.

[Greystache]

Lucky miss from Cameron and Picken kills them the other way. Having a great season Picken.

[1eyedog]

Gee Picko is in good touch. This is better winning the contested ball now. Giants spreading way too early around clearances - peeling off us too early.

[Doc26]

What's the early prognosis with Dale ? I'd didn't see what happened. FanFooty indicating a lower leg injury.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Looks like Morris to be subbed out. Haven't said how bad his leg is.

[bornadog]

Morris big loss Tutt in

[bornadog]

How does Stevens get a game?

[Eastdog]

Good play Young.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Hopefully not a major injury for Morris. If not he can expect a suspension though for a trip, unfortunately.

[bornadog]

Hopefully not a major injury for Morris. If not he can expect a suspension though for a trip, unfortunately.

The last two weeks there have been trips against us and they received a reprimand

[bulldogtragic]

Higgins with the ball in the centre feels right.

Who didn't want Patton last year again?

[AndrewP6]

Who's the woman sitting behind McCartney? And why isn't he sitting down?

[AndrewP6]

The last two weeks there have been trips against us and they received a reprimand

There's been a few today and it's only been a free kick.

[bornadog]

We are one tall down makes it hard

[Eastdog]

Who's the woman sitting behind McCartney? And why isn't he sitting down?

Apparently I heard he chose to stand. No idea who that woman is.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Costly brain fade by Libba.

[bornadog]

Stupid free from Libba

[AndrewP6]

Dumb, dumb footy Libba. Defies logic.

[bulldogtragic]

Hunter playing like a millionaire.

[GVGjr]

Who's the woman sitting behind McCartney? And why isn't he sitting down?

Can't help you with the first point but on the highlighted does it really matter?

[bulldogtragic]

Arggghhhh

[The Pie Man]

I'd switch the Young & Williams match ups next half - any word on Dale?

[GVGjr]

Hunter playing like a millionaire.

He did the same last week and I credited his easy miss in the 3rd that kick started the Tigers comeback

[GVGjr]

I'd switch the Young & Williams match ups next half - any word on Dale?

I think we will struggle to get an accurate answer for a while

[bornadog]

We just don't have the cattle, its so obvious with all the young guns at GWS.

[Greystache]

Is there a player in the AFL who has less impact in the air than Minson? *!*!*!*! me GWS midfielders have him covered, take the ball away and get a goal on the siren. Give us something other than a meaningless hit out stat

[Scorlibo]

Costly brain fade by Libba.


Stupid free from Libba


Dumb, dumb footy Libba. Defies logic.

If he hadn't tried to shepherd the Giants player would have mown right through whoever had the ball for us. It was going to be a goal either way.

Weak effort late in the quarter from our boys. Think we may have thrown the game away in those last 10 minutes, now that they have the wind again.

[AndrewP6]

Can't help you with the first point but on the highlighted does it really matter?

Just trying for a bit of levity.

[AndrewP6]

If he hadn't tried to shepherd the Giants player would have mown right through whoever had the ball for us. It was going to be a goal either way.

Weak effort late in the quarter from our boys. Think we may have thrown the game away in those last 10 minutes, now that they have the wind again.

Trying to shepherd by clothes lining?

[always right]

As poor a half from Minson as I've seen for a couple of seasons. Giles FFS.
Hunter's miss cost us big time. Thank god for Picken, Wood, Higgins, Boyd and Macrae.

[chef]

We still have a hell of a long way to go with this squad.

[always right]

Pathetic coverage. Morris is subbed off and no-one tells us what the injury is. Any chance of someone asking our doctor?

[bornadog]

Backline undermanned for talls, Griffen struggling, Stringer playing from behind, Crameri can't get the ball, Libba struggling, Jones not getting much, Jong getting beaten on Scully. Down on contested posessions, and centre clearances

[GVGjr]

As poor a half from Minson as I've seen for a couple of seasons. Giles FFS.
Hunter's miss cost us big time. Thank god for Picken, Wood, Higgins, Boyd and Macrae.

That's two weeks in a row for Hunter. We can make allowances for his young age but these concentration lapses are a bad habit.

[bornadog]

As poor a half from Minson as I've seen for a couple of seasons. Giles FFS. .

No influence from Minson, needs to lift, but Giles is not that good. Yes he has a goal but only touched the ball 5 times, so Minson has the opportunity to dominate in the second half.

[Twodogs]

Any chance Stringer might play from in front?

[bornadog]

That's two weeks in a row for Hunter. We can make allowances for his young age but these concentration lapses are a bad habit.

Its all these modern footballers who would rather do stupid kicks for goal, they prefer to either roll it along the ground or kick it around the body.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

On a positive note, apart from one woeful kick to miss a clear Macrae, I thought Wood has done well in trying to take the game on

[GVGjr]

On a positive note, apart from one woeful kick to miss a clear Macrae, I thought Wood has done well in trying to take the game on


So far he has backed up last weeks good effort

[Twodogs]

Its all these modern footballers who would rather do stupid kicks for goal, they prefer to either roll it along the ground or kick it around the body.


For professional footballers who are always looking for the smallest advantage I can't understand why modern day footballers try these extravagant kicks for goal. I was always taught to straighten up and kick the ball properly and that kicking the ball around your body was just lazy.

[Scorlibo]

Great hands from Jones!

[bornadog]

Wallis doing a good job on Ward

[Remi Moses]

Great to see Canberra not only has Porn, but now has a beach.
For a multi million dollar corporate game, how bloody amaeturisj

[Greystache]

So far he has backed up last weeks good effort

And the week before against Black.

Just about BOG today

[Eastdog]

Go Gia! Need to capitalise on all our opportunities now.

[Greystache]

Stringer has about 40 mins to save himself from a long long stint in the VFL. He's giving us nothing.

[Twodogs]

Griff down.


Shoulder.

[GVGjr]

Stringer has about 40 mins to save himself from a long long stint in the VFL. He's giving us nothing.

I'd use him as a defender. He will either respond or learn a good footy lesson.

[Greystache]

He can't get a touch but that's not stopping Minson giving away frees

[lemmon]

I'd use him as a defender. He will either respond or learn a good footy lesson.

Today or moving forward?

[Greystache]

I'd use him as a defender. He will either respond or learn a good footy lesson.

Good call he's just been moved to the +1

[Twodogs]

I'd use him as a defender. He will either respond or learn a good footy lesson.

Or ask him if he might try a few marking contests or standing in front of your man.

He spent a fair chunk of the first quarter in defence and I don't think he touched the footy down there.

[GVGjr]

Today or moving forward?Today and maybe in the future. We saw him as having some midfield attributes when we drafted him. Lets sling him onto a back flank or pocket and make him play more straight ahead.

[Greystache]

Good call he's just been moved to the +1

And he immediately costs us a goal. He looks so far away from AFL at the moment its scary

[Jasper]

We can't seem to kick 2 in a row to bring it closer. Seems to hover around the 2 goal mark..

[bornadog]

Rubbish free kick

[Scorlibo]

Crap free kick, just crap.

[lemmon]

Seem a lot further away than 20 points

[bornadog]

Boyd nice goal

[Greystache]

Brilliant goal from Boyd. Griffen starting to lift.

[Jasper]

nice goal to boyd. need the next one though.

[lemmon]

Need more of that from Griff

[bornadog]

And a brilliant goal from Young

[Greystache]

Great play Tommy Young, he adds something to the team.

[Jasper]

great goal from young. need to make sure we don't undo all our hard work in these last few mins

[GVGjr]

10 goals and 9 goal kickers. We need to have a few multiple goal kickers by the games end.

[bornadog]

Why isn't that a free for Macrae

[Greystache]

Stevens has zero awareness, just zero.

[chef]

Williams been good.

[GVGjr]

Williams been good.

I'll say, it's been a while but he deserves a bit of a run at it.

[lemmon]

Good test of the fitness here, lets see if Cordy is earning his cash

[Jasper]

Williams been good.
Been spoiling well from what i've been hearing on the radio. Really need him to stand up now that Morris is out. Seems to be getting his confidence back.

[Mantis]

Stevens has zero awareness, just zero.

It's frightening isn't it.

[Jasper]

Great captain's goal when we really needed it.

[lemmon]

Griff starting to find his feet, impacts the contest with every touch

[GVGjr]

Great captain's goal when we really needed it.

Agreed, but we need another one from him as well.

[lemmon]

Allowing Josh Hunt to towel us up off half back is an indictment

[Greystache]

Where can we hide Stringer? Having to use the sub early is hurting now.

[bornadog]

This is bullshit

[GVGjr]

We are at least answering the challenge. Might need a bit of luck or a fair bit of inspiration to win it though.

As I type, how unlucky was that???

[Greystache]

Umpires obvioulsy under clear instruction to help GWS at every opportunity

[lemmon]

Griff starting to turn it on

[bornadog]

Now stay in front

[Greystache]

Jones' goal kicking is massively improved.

[GVGjr]

From a poor start standard wise it's improved a fair but and it's a good contest.

Lets hope for another 2 in a row.

[GVGjr]

Jones' goal kicking is massively improved.

Yep, and it needed to.

[Eastdog]

Jones is coming to life

[bornadog]

Joneeeeeesssssseeeeee

[lemmon]

Good boy Jones- lead, grab and goal. Exactly what we've been looking for

[Topdog]

JONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coming up big in the 4th quarter 2 weeks in a row.

[Greystache]

Jones has put his hand up, he did it last week too. Fantastic stuff

[GVGjr]

Jones' goal kicking is massively improved.

And again, good to have some multiple goal kickers now.

[Greystache]

*!*!*!*! Stringer, shouldn't be playing!!!

[bornadog]

I love Picken

[Mantis]

Good to see Jones standing up under pressure.

Our experienced mids are controlling it now.

[GVGjr]

And there is that bit of luck we needed. Higgins goal

[bornadog]

Good to see Jones standing up under pressure.

Our experienced mids are controlling it now.

Boyd has been fantastic

[bornadog]

Higgins BOG

[Greystache]

Higgins is having an excellent start to the season

[Greystache]

Tutt seals it from 50m!!

[Ghost Dog]

Tutt! Kicks his second and oh my god we are out to 22 point lead.

[bornadog]

Tutt two goals, gets another game

[Eastdog]

Tutt!!! It's just about up!

[GVGjr]

Higgins BOG

He would be close to it.

[lemmon]

Higgins, Wood, Williams. Three mature aged guys who are basically new recruits on last year. Makes a massive difference

[Ghost Dog]

Extremely proud of Jones. He's had his knockers.

[bornadog]

He would be close to it.

Boyd 38 disposals so far

[Ghost Dog]

Higgins 82% efficiency.

50% conversion on inside fifties. Amazing.

[GVGjr]

Who's loving their footy at the moment?

[GVGjr]

Extremely proud of Jones. He's had his knockers.

He has answered the challenge. Huge positive from his last two weeks.

[lemmon]

Who's loving their footy at the moment?

Pleased with the win but shouldn't be sweeping that first half under the carpet. We were at our very worst that first half. Need to learn from it

[bornadog]

Pleased with the win but shouldn't be sweeping that first half under the carpet. We were at our very worst that first half. Need to learn from it

As I said earlier it was embarrassing football.

[Twodogs]

That's a great win.


Considering the injuries and how slowly we started.

Great returns from Crameri and Jones.

Young and Williams fantastic down back.

[Twodogs]

Who's loving their footy at the moment?


Me! :cool:

[lemmon]

Higgins, Williams, Wood, Boyd, Jones all guys who have had the acid put on them at various points, all instrumental

[Twodogs]

Did we win?

[GVGjr]

Pleased with the win but shouldn't be sweeping that first half under the carpet. We were at our very worst that first half. Need to learn from it


I think that is a given but I loved the way we finished it off. Now it could be a combination of us having a full 7 day break and GWS slogging it out in the wet last week and only having a 6 day break but I'll enjoy the moment and look at things a bit deeper later.

[Pickenitup]

That's one hell of a win Boydy so good stood up when we needed it How Good was Crammers second half geez he is going to be a Super player for us .

[GVGjr]

That's one hell of a win Boydy so good stood up when we needed it How Good was Crammers second half geez he is going to be a Super player for us .

Last two weeks have been good ones for Crameri

[Twodogs]

it How Good was Crammers second half geez he is going to be a Super player for us .


For once we've hand picked a player and it looks like paying off for us!

[F'scary]

Great to see Canberra not only has Porn, but now has a beach.
For a multi million dollar corporate game, how bloody amaeturisj

If you watch too much pron it makes you spell words incorrectly.

[azabob]

Who did Young play on and what type of role did he play?

[LostDoggy]

Great win - hard fought and they just kept at it! I was surprised it was on free to air up here (Ballina) as I didn't get to see last week's win! Very impressed with Jones - he appears to be more confident and consequently, is holding his marks and kicking those goals.......to say I'm a happy interstate member is an understatement - yay!!!!

[firstdogonthemoon]

I had totally given up on us by the end of the third quarter. I am not a very nice person. I was actually a bit embarrassed that we came good in the final quarter because I had doubted us so thoroughly. Oh me of little faith.

But it very satisfying - although a note to Fox Footy - Please don't show replays of interesting things WHILE the actual footy is happening. Just saying.

[Remi Moses]

If you watch too much pron it makes you spell words incorrectly.

Umm thanks auto correct for that one

[Eastdog]

Great comeback and win in the end from our guys. Really happy Jones has stood up. Boyd is still important as ever.

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 41
First goal Gia
BOG Macrae

Apologies to you good sir, I over estimated their improvement.....or under estimated ours, not sure which one.

But you were spot on.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Last two weeks have been good ones for Crameri

He definitely seems to have clicked. He still looks to be carrying something though. Saw him wince and hobble a few times.
I had to pause the game with us 20 points down, and only just finished watching 15 mins ago.
A fantastic fightback, and great to see the effort that Griffen made as skipper in that last qtr, despite being both carrying an injury into the game, plus the distress he seemed to be in following the fierce tackle he copped in the 3rd. Higgins too, really put the body on the line today in what was in my opinion the best game he's played for a few seasons.

Boyd was also outstanding and kudo's to our undermanned defence. Williams early looked woeful, but after Moz went down, he really stood up, and Young also did well on a much bigger opponent.

[FrediKanoute]

Tuned in late but managed to follow the dogs in the last quarter. Good result. Quarter splits showed we had the momentum after quarter time and I was pleased we managed to put them away. 2 good weeks, 2 good wins with some players with question marks really standing up.

[ledge]

Are Morris and liberatore in trouble with the tribunal ,

[Hotdog60]

Are Morris and liberatore in trouble with the tribunal ,

Morris maybe, Libba was a free kick nothing more.

[Twodogs]

I had totally given up on us by the end of the third quarter. I am not a very nice person. I was actually a bit embarrassed that we came good in the final quarter because I had doubted us so thoroughly. Oh me of little faith.

But it very satisfying - although a note to Fox Footy - Please don't show replays of interesting things WHILE the actual footy is happening. Just saying.

Agree completely. Very annoying habit they have.

[The Underdog]

Couldn't watch the game but was following the scores. Looking forward to watching it back, although it's easier to watch a bad first half that you come back from than a bad second half where you blow it all. I've still only watched one quarter of the West Coast game.

[angelopetraglia]

Terrible start but super last quarter to run over the top of them. Boyd was just enormous. Jones so important kicking those two clutch goals, there is no chance he would have kicked those goals last year, hopefully he can build from that.

Huge month of footy before the bye. We have three out of the next four where we will start favourites.

[bornadog]

Who did Young play on and what type of role did he play?

Switched on to Patton and really played well on him to curb his influence.

[GVGjr]

Just had a watch of Macca's press conference and it was a no nonsense and honest message.
Particularly liked his comments on Tutt, Young and Williams

[LostDoggy]

Wallis deserves some kudos. Kept Ward to 16 touches and picked up 16 himself. Super effort.

Our disposal efficiency in the second half was impressive. Ended up 75% for the match after a very poor start which is decent.

[lemmon]

Switched on to Patton and really played well on him to curb his influence.

Was very good, outbodied Patton a few times which was a bit of a surprise and that long goal was class

[LostDoggy]

So according to Foxtel cretins, we werent worthy of our first goal. Their bias is appalling.:mad:
Drove me batty as well. Every excuse under the sun offered for us beating them.

The last two weeks there have been trips against us and they received a reprimand
That would be comforting if the MRP were known for their consistency.

Hunter playing like a millionaire.
I've noticed that as well. Needs to knuckle down. Boyd the man for the job there.

Its all these modern footballers who would rather do stupid kicks for goal, they prefer to either roll it along the ground or kick it around the body.


For professional footballers who are always looking for the smallest advantage I can't understand why modern day footballers try these extravagant kicks for goal. I was always taught to straighten up and kick the ball properly and that kicking the ball around your body was just lazy.

Gets onto the highlight reel.

Just on Jones. Thought he played a good game in the end, and showed many why you need to stick by a player for their first 50-60 games, and why Stringer needs to stay on the park.

[ledge]

One thing I noticed about aker , on an angle he never banana kicked he always lined up straight and followed through he was very accurate in angles and not doing fancy stuff.

[whythelongface]

Watched the game live in The Netherlands on Eurosport 2 after not being able to see the win over the Tigers.

Was always reasonably confident we coud over run them if we were within 3 goals at 3 qtr time.

a good solid win that will give the team some confidence. liked the games of Wood, Higgins, Jones, Young, Williams, Macrae, Wallis and Stevens.

What happened to Morris? noticed he was on crutches. Where was Dahl?

[Bulldog Joe]

Watched the game live in The Netherlands on Eurosport 2 after not being able to see the win over the Tigers.

Was always reasonably confident we coud over run them if we were within 3 goals at 3 qtr time.

a good solid win that will give the team some confidence. liked the games of Wood, Higgins, Jones, Young, Williams, Macrae, Wallis and Stevens.

What happened to Morris? noticed he was on crutches. Where was Dahl?

Morris copped an injury early when he got his foot tangled with Hoskin-Elliott of GWS early in the 1st qtr. Both players were subbed out with injury from the incident. Was suggested the problem for Dale in his ankle, but may be available next week.

Dahl was out with a calf injury at the original selection.

[Scorlibo]

Gets onto the highlight reel.

I thought Hunter's snap from the top of the goal square was the right option but he just didn't take enough care to hit it right. He'll be alright.


Wallis deserves some kudos. Kept Ward to 16 touches and picked up 16 himself. Super effort.

Yep, definitely his best game of the year so far. Cal Ward has been in sizzling form so to completely nullify his influence was super impressive. Fingers crossed he can build on that and put in a few solid weeks in a row.

[azabob]

Switched on to Patton and really played well on him to curb his influence.

Thanks BAD - A few posters gave him votes and specifically mentioned him. That is a big effort and very pleasing.

[azabob]

Just had a watch of Macca's press conference and it was a no nonsense and honest message.
Particularly liked his comments on Tutt, Young and Williams

From memory that is the first time BMAC has actually voiced his frustration so strongly and without any prompting.

What I also took away from the press conference is I think BMAC behind closed doors delivers his message a lot more direct and forceful than he does in the public arena and praise is given out only when deserved. This can only be a good thing.

[Twodogs]

On Gameday they just said that Dale Morris might have broken his other leg.

[Murphy'sLore]

No no no no

[LostDoggy]

Pretty happy to beat the improved GWS side.

[KT31]

On Gameday they just said that Dale Morris might have broken his other leg.

Please No.

[Twodogs]

Can anyone who was at the game tell us how strong the breeze was? Was it still favouring the end we kicked to in the last quarter?

[bornadog]

On Gameday they just said that Dale Morris might have broken his other leg.


No no no no

When Morris stuck his leg out, the GWS player was running and kicked Morris in the ankle. Morris said he would be ok next week.

[Murphy'sLore]

Can anyone who was at the game tell us how strong the breeze was? Was it still favouring the end we kicked to in the last quarter?

Just going from the commentary (which as we all know is unreliable) they said the wind had pretty much died by the end of the third quarter, so we wouldn't have got much advantage, if any.

[F'scary]

Who did Young play on and what type of role did he play?


Switched on to Patton and really played well on him to curb his influence.

He also showed that good rebounding form he had last year. Watch the highlight footage of Tutt's sealer. Young was the passer from a stop play (intercepting mark on the wing) and the camera clearly captures his decision making as he looks downfield at the movement out to the pocket (the safe kick option) and then looks to see if anyone has got free in space at high CHF. Spots Tutt moving into the right spot, checks quickly he is not covered and then drills a nice long pass. Game over!

[bornadog]

Who's the woman sitting behind McCartney? And why isn't he sitting down?

Ok Andrew just for you:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlN9F5NCQAAn1OR.jpg

[AndrewP6]

Ok Andrew just for you:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlN9F5NCQAAn1OR.jpg

Ha! Thanks. Although it clearly wasn't just me ;)

[Twodogs]

Ha! Thanks. Although it clearly wasn't just me ;)

I was wondering who she was too Andrew.

[bulldogtragic]

I was wondering who she was too Andrew.

I was wondering why she wasn't decked out with our branding. Someone sent the message at half time though.

[Twodogs]

I like the way she stood in the coaches box. I prefer to be standing when I watch sport.

[bulldogtragic]

I like the way she stood in the coaches box. I prefer to be standing when I watch sport.

I didn't get to other grounds until I was about 10. It seemed foreign to me sitting down at the footy at Arctic Park, and then much later Princess Park which I never enjoyed. I'd imagine it would be even more so for those older than me.

[jeemak]

Just finished the replay.

Thought the Giants once again showed themselves to be a club full of wankerish and self entitled kids that need to get their heads knocked off.

Stringer for all the criticism attacked the ball when in defence but used it poorly (as a result of decision making deficiency) and didn't know how to attack toward the carrier when playing forward which says to me he's confused through either not listening to instruction or not being taught properly.

Tutt made an impact irrespective of having limited possessions over three quarters. If he plays four quarters and gains 14-18 touches in a game and kicks a few goals then we have a player, and he should keep his spot.

Williams played and excellent game and is probably our best key defender when in form.

Easton Wood is going to be a good player for us.

Wallis playing tight whilst also getting the ball goes a long way towards us winning.

If all of the above happen our midfield not dominating the game for the whole game in contested possession isn't going to be a massive issue.

Higgins is a gun. Irrespective of his weaknesses (every player has them, bar maybe one or two in history) he is still a player if I was a coach I'd look at as the top three or four Bulldogs to stop if I was matching up against them.

Our first two to three weeks were very very difficult from a fatigue perspective. We are a list that has had a good development preseason put into us and we'll be a lot fitter than we were last year.

Crameri is going to be a good pick up for us, and Liam Jones will benefit from it if he keeps working.

Liam Picken has more than once in recent times made me eat roast words with all the trimmings throughout the week due to very good match ups producing good performances.

[Twodogs]

Good write up Jeemak. Just one thing.

Are you saying that at is best Williams is a better key defender than Roughead?

[jeemak]

Good write up Jeemak. Just one thing.

Are you saying that at is best Williams is a better key defender than Roughead?

Morris is our best defender, first and foremost.

Williams for mine if able to benefit from continuity is our best chance against the taller and more mobile forwards compared to Roughead.

This week I was really pleased with how he attacked the high ball and the ground level contests compared to last week when he was clearly underdone and lacking confidence.

It's a hard comparison to make though. Neither have been on the ground long enough to swap opponents etc. throughout a season to see who matches up against best against opposition teams forwards throughout games.

Roughead in all likelihood is going to turn out better as a key back, but he doesn't have William's athletic ability and he never will. If he can keep his head together, and make sure he comes back from injury the same player that he was prior to being injured (which is a thing Williams has struggled with) then he'll be the better defender.

[Remi Moses]

Agree, and if Williams had continual footy over 12 months he'd have been twice the player he is now.
Thought Tutt was good( notice in B Mac's presser the same Canberra journo enquired about him)
Who coached GWS initially? That's where you'll get your answer Jeemak .
We're not good enough to just cruise through a game, and if that first quarter effort gets trotted out.
Trouble

[lemmon]

Not to mention that Williams disposal is top notch for a big man. Lovely, languid, fluid style, he seems to be mostly kicking long down the line this year but he has displayed some wonderful flat passing off the half back line in the past.

[GVGjr]

I'd really like to see a 2nd half of the season where we have Morris, Roughead and Williams settled down as our key defenders. I just think that would give us a great chance of a strong finish to the season.

[Twodogs]

Morris is our best defender, first and foremost.

Williams for mine if able to benefit from continuity is our best chance against the taller and more mobile forwards compared to Roughead.

This week I was really pleased with how he attacked the high ball and the ground level contests compared to last week when he was clearly underdone and lacking confidence.

It's a hard comparison to make though. Neither have been on the ground long enough to swap opponents etc. throughout a season to see who matches up against best against opposition teams forwards throughout games.

Roughead in all likelihood is going to turn out better as a key back, but he doesn't have William's athletic ability and he never will. If he can keep his head together, and make sure he comes back from injury the same player that he was prior to being injured (which is a thing Williams has struggled with) then he'll be the better defender.

Persuasive post and you're right about athletic ability. What I was really impressed with Tom's game on Saturday was he able to come back from a fairly poor game the week before and he stood up and helped cover for Morris absence. If we could get the Tom Williams who went with Buddy in Tassie all those years ago back I will be very happy.

[LostDoggy]

Not to mention that Williams disposal is top notch for a big man. Lovely, languid, fluid style, he seems to be mostly kicking long down the line this year but he has displayed some wonderful flat passing off the half back line in the past.

He's had a lot of time to practice and perfect it, I guess.

[bornadog]

Such a shame for Williams to be injured throughout his career. He has missed over 100 games and copped a lot of criticism by supporters. I hope he is ok from now on.

[Ghost Dog]

He's had a lot of time to practice and perfect it, I guess.
It was like that from day one. I remember his first game, and how well he moved.

[always right]

Morris is our best defender, first and foremost.

Williams for mine if able to benefit from continuity is our best chance against the taller and more mobile forwards compared to Roughead.

This week I was really pleased with how he attacked the high ball and the ground level contests compared to last week when he was clearly underdone and lacking confidence.

It's a hard comparison to make though. Neither have been on the ground long enough to swap opponents etc. throughout a season to see who matches up against best against opposition teams forwards throughout games.

Roughead in all likelihood is going to turn out better as a key back, but he doesn't have William's athletic ability and he never will. If he can keep his head together, and make sure he comes back from injury the same player that he was prior to being injured (which is a thing Williams has struggled with) then he'll be the better defender.

Agree but Roughy's strength is his body to body work which allows him to make good decisions as to when he should spoil and when he should take the mark. He struggles most on leading players...which is understandable to some extent considering he is a ruckman turned into a defender. Williams is the opposite.....struggles body to body but his mobility is an asset.

[bornadog]

Agree but Roughy's strength is his body to body work which allows him to make good decisions as to when he should spoil and when he should take the mark. He struggles most on leading players...which is understandable to some extent considering he is a ruckman turned into a defender. Williams is the opposite.....struggles body to body but his mobility is an asset.

One thing I hate about Williams is when the ball is coming in high, he has his eyes on the man till the last minute and then he seems to lose the contest. Yes you have to know where your man is but, eyes should be on the ball and you should be trying to punch or mark it.

[Bulldog Joe]

One thing I hate about Williams is when the ball is coming in high, he has his eyes on the man till the last minute and then he seems to lose the contest. Yes you have to know where your man is but, eyes should be on the ball and you should be trying to punch or mark it.

This was certainly as issue in the Richmond game, but seemed to improve markedly in the GWS match (although I only had TV coverage to judge it from). I believe it is more a confidence issue. Williams can take a mark, just needs confidence to play the ball on its merits.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

It was easily Williams' best game as a defender IMO.

He's a good player (could have been better with no injuries) but I still think he's more instinctive as a forward. As others have noted, he struggles reading the play whilst keeping track of his man in defense, meaning he's often out of position or easily out bodied. Cameron helped him last week in that he simply just kept presenting straight at the ball. He didn't really test out Williams' weaknesses (eg. lateral movements and getting him underneath the ball, or repeat leads).

We certainly need Tommy to stand up as a defender whilst Roughy is out, but long term if he stays injury free, I think Williams can split his time evenly between forward/back depending on where we need him most and how the likes of Roughy/Morris/Talia and Campbell/Jones are playing.