View Full Version : Boyd to Re-sign
jeemak
29-07-2014, 10:37 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-boyd-to-play-on-for-western-bulldogs-20140729-zy98j.html
Matthew Boyd to play on for Western Bulldogs
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/matthew-boyd-to-play-on-for-western-bulldogs-20140729-zy98j.html#ixzz38rPrhO7e
Well done Matty. Plenty to debate around whether he should have been re-signed, though I don't think many could begrudge him or the club of the outcome.
Bulldog4life
29-07-2014, 11:40 PM
Very good. I am happy Boydy is playing on. Good decision by the Club.
GVGjr
30-07-2014, 06:45 AM
Important signing to continue the development of the younger group. Boyd has had a good season and deserved another year
Go_Dogs
30-07-2014, 07:41 AM
Important signing to continue the development of the younger group. Boyd has had a good season and deserved another year
Agreed, based on his form across the season he deserved another contract - good news.
Hotdog60
30-07-2014, 08:33 AM
I've been a big critic of Boyd, mainly with his turnovers but I must admit that he seems like he has played within his limitations this year with only the slight blemish.
I happy with him going around another year. The one thing about Boyd is he is the utmost professional.
bornadog
30-07-2014, 10:11 AM
Well done Boyd, deserves another year, a player not appreciated by many supporters.
Bulldog Joe
30-07-2014, 11:32 AM
Boyd has had a very good year and deserves to go around again.
Sedat
30-07-2014, 11:41 AM
Like this. Firstly Boyd has deserved another year based on his very good season. Secondly, we need another year or two of strong bodies as part of our midfield rotations so that we don't overload our young emerging group from doing all the heavy lifting too early in their careers.
Throughandthrough
30-07-2014, 12:45 PM
Very good news
LostDoggy
30-07-2014, 11:04 PM
Very happy Boyd's going again. Well deserved.
Webby
31-07-2014, 08:24 AM
Like this. Firstly Boyd has deserved another year based on his very good season. Secondly, we need another year or two of strong bodies as part of our midfield rotations so that we don't overload our young emerging group from doing all the heavy lifting too early in their careers.
I'm happy with Boyd's re-signing. He a very good trainer and a very good trier, albeit with very poor disposal. I just wonder how much Clay Smith's knee reconstruction and Wallis's broken foot have to do with the timing.
Two weeks ago I was leaning firmly towards Wallis and Smith being thrown the Boyd role from next season, but obviously things have changed somewhat and Boyd becomes a very handy asset once again. A good move by the club in the circumstances.
bornadog
31-07-2014, 03:11 PM
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Remi Moses
31-07-2014, 05:49 PM
I'm happy with Boyd's re-signing. He a very good trainer and a very good trier, albeit with very poor disposal. I just wonder how much Clay Smith's knee reconstruction and Wallis's broken foot have to do with the timing.
Two weeks ago I was leaning firmly towards Wallis and Smith being thrown the Boyd role from next season, but obviously things have changed somewhat and Boyd becomes a very handy asset once again. A good move by the club in the circumstances.
Likewise here. Had a good season. There's stats and there's stats^^
Seriously some on here had there way we'd have a team of pensioners
bornadog
31-07-2014, 06:43 PM
Likewise here. Had a good season. There's stats and there's stats^^
Seriously some on here had there way we'd have a team of pensioners
What does that mean?
Remi Moses
01-08-2014, 01:33 AM
Meaning you want to keep everyone.
bornadog
01-08-2014, 07:31 AM
Meaning you want to keep everyone.
If you are talking specifically about me, I would be happy to see both Boyd and Morris finish up this year if we had replacements.
Heard a whisper from someone I believe is very reliable that a new one year deal is nearly complete.
bulldogtragic
01-09-2016, 10:12 PM
Heard a whisper from someone I believe is very reliable that a new one year deal is nearly complete.
Just as long as it's not incentive based, it'll cripple the club! :D
Eastdog
01-09-2016, 11:23 PM
Heard a whisper from someone I believe is very reliable that a new one year deal is nearly complete.
Good news if that is the case. Will be good to have him go around again.
ratsmac
02-09-2016, 06:16 PM
Heard a whisper from someone I believe is very reliable that a new one year deal is nearly complete.
Hopefully they release the news just before the final in Perth as a little extra positive to get the boys going.
Rocco Jones
03-09-2016, 11:57 AM
Just bizarre him playing on is even a discussion. The last two years he has been in or around All-Australian level. If winning is important to a club short term, you cannot let that type go.
Doc26
03-09-2016, 12:11 PM
Just bizarre him playing on is even a discussion. The last two years he has been in or around All-Australian level. If winning is important to a club short term, you cannot let that type go.
It is crazy that it has gone on as long as it has. Personally find it disrespectful to a past club captain and champion of our club particularly one who has continued to be in our best handful of players each week.
I don't like how Scott and North handled Harvey and I'm just as frustrated with our handling of our current day All Australian.
Rocco Jones
03-09-2016, 01:05 PM
It is crazy that it has gone on as long as it has. Personally find it disrespectful to a past club captain and champion of our club particularly one who has continued to be in our best handful of players each week.
I don't like how Scott and North handled Harvey and I'm just as frustrated with our handling of our current day All Australian.
I don't think it is AS bad. Thing is we don't know if the delay is about whether to give him a deal OR what deal we are going to give him. Perhaps it's about how much we are going to offer him and him/his manager wanting a bit more etc. IF it is just about whether we want him or not, I think that's crazy.
Eastdog
03-09-2016, 03:24 PM
If you are talking specifically about me, I would be happy to see both Boyd and Morris finish up this year if we had replacements.
Mentioned somewhere in another thread when Boyd, Morris etc retire there will be big shoes to fill. Who do we see filling those gaps. Adams I think will fill the void. Would it be better to not retire them all at once.
G-Mo77
03-09-2016, 06:04 PM
Just bizarre him playing on is even a discussion. The last two years he has been in or around All-Australian level. If winning is important to a club short term, you cannot let that type go.
We had Hurley all but locked up until he actually signed with the Bombres. Maybe the funds were not there or there was a squeeze on salary with Hurley on the projected books. I've got no doubt he'll sign and expect it to be announced in the next few weeks or during the off-season.
I'm more concerned about Campbell.
Nuggety Back Pocket
03-09-2016, 08:26 PM
Matthew Boyd has had a stellar season which follows an outstanding career of 278 games dual B&F winner All Australian and Captain of our club for 4 years. There is little doubt that he has earned a new contract. In the words of Club legend John Schultz at Casey Fields today at our Footscray VFL final Boyd is all class and still sets a wonderful example around the Club.
Webby
03-09-2016, 09:36 PM
Isn't it the case with anyone in their mid 30's that you take it as a year by year proposition?
And with that being the case, isn't it logical to wait until the end of the season to do the deal? If Boyd were to break his leg Mitch Wallis style or do an ACL Jack Redpath style in his next game, his career is over. He's not 25!
So surely the common sense approach is to get to the end of the year, see how he's feeling and then sign him up for a further year. Of course the media will try to squeeze a story out of it in a slow news, non-football week. However, we'd have to be daft to be baited by it. Common sense prevails!
GVGjr
03-09-2016, 09:44 PM
Isn't it the case with anyone in their mid 30's that you take it as a year by year proposition?
And with that being the case, isn't it logical to wait until the end of the season to do the deal? If Boyd were to break his leg Mitch Wallis style or do an ACL Jack Redpath style in his next game, his career is over. He's not 25!
So surely the common sense approach is to get to the end of the year, see how he's feeling and then sign him up for a further year. Of course the media will try to squeeze a story out of it in a slow news, non-football week. However, we'd have to be daft to be baited by it. Common sense prevails!
I get what you are saying but the home and away season has finished and I'm not sure that the club will learn anything different between now and the end of the finals. You would hope the club has said if all things finish well over the balance of the season we are vastly more likely to sign you than than not. I think that would be something Matthew Boyd would accept.
Webby
05-09-2016, 09:30 PM
I get what you are saying but the home and away season has finished and I'm not sure that the club will learn anything different between now and the end of the finals. You would hope the club has said if all things finish well over the balance of the season we are vastly more likely to sign you than than not. I think that would be something Matthew Boyd would accept.
i reckon you'd learn that he's made it through the season in one piece!
I don't mean that to sound flippant. He could rip his hamstring off the bone, do an ACL, dislocate a shoulder, suffer a severe concussion or break a leg in the coming 1-3 weeks. All of which would be career ending. He's not going to be poached prior to October, so why not wait until our season's out? It's a sensible position for all.
LostDoggy
05-09-2016, 09:34 PM
i reckon you'd learn that he's made it through the season in one piece!
I don't mean that to sound flippant. He could rip his hamstring off the bone, do an ACL, dislocate a shoulder, suffer a severe concussion or break a leg in the coming 1-3 weeks. All of which would be career ending. He's not going to be poached prior to October, so why not wait until our season's out? It's a sensible position for all.
Spot on Webby.
LostDoggy
05-09-2016, 09:35 PM
i reckon you'd learn that he's made it through the season in one piece!
I don't mean that to sound flippant. He could rip his hamstring off the bone, do an ACL, dislocate a shoulder, suffer a severe concussion or break a leg in the coming 1-3 weeks. All of which would be career ending. He's not going to be poached prior to October, so why not wait until our season's out? It's a sensible position for all.
That's true, but it'd be equally true for Morris or Murphy or other older players. Why is Boyd any different?
whythelongface
05-09-2016, 09:54 PM
That's true, but it'd be equally true for Morris or Murphy or other older players. Why is Boyd any different?
I don't understand the delay either. Boyd has shown that he is in near career best form. Surely this would be enough to warrant a one year contract.
Nuggety Back Pocket
05-09-2016, 09:59 PM
That's true, but it'd be equally true for Morris or Murphy or other older players. Why is Boyd any different?
Boyd has been the most durable of our three veterans over their careers. He was able to successfully reinvent his career this year at half back to enjoy an outstanding season. We are very fortunate to have 3 such outstanding people who have stood the test of time with great aplomb.
Webby
05-09-2016, 10:07 PM
That's true, but it'd be equally true for Morris or Murphy or other older players. Why is Boyd any different?
I hazard to guess that:
1. Murphy is not at risk of further injury in the coming month
2. The club made the necessary call to re-sign Murphy several months ago so as to commence his rehab
3. We are chronically short of players of Dale Morris's ilk, so securing such a key position defender was a must. In fact we need more like him
4. Unlike Morris and Murphy, Boyd (although great) has about five young understudies looking to break into AFL level via a back pocket
5. Boyd will almost certainly be re-signed in any case - the only concern is point 4 above plus the risk of a September injury
6. Common sense prevails
bulldogtragic
05-09-2016, 10:11 PM
Maybe Matty said, if we win the premiership I want to retire.
Maybe we've said, we will give you a year, but wait until everything else is done to work out the dollars we can offer and hopefully you're happy.p with this figure...
Or maybe everything between.
I'm happy to wager if we don't win the flag, he gets a contract. There's no real right and wrong, and we would've said by now he will be cut if that was going to happen. I wouldn't spend too much time over thinking it.
GVGjr
05-09-2016, 10:14 PM
I don't understand the delay either. Boyd has shown that he is in near career best form. Surely this would be enough to warrant a one year contract.
If the reasoning happens to be because he might get seriously injured then it's not a great one.
Mofra
06-09-2016, 09:51 AM
Isn't it the case with anyone in their mid 30's that you take it as a year by year proposition?
And with that being the case, isn't it logical to wait until the end of the season to do the deal? If Boyd were to break his leg Mitch Wallis style or do an ACL Jack Redpath style in his next game, his career is over. He's not 25!
So surely the common sense approach is to get to the end of the year, see how he's feeling and then sign him up for a further year. Of course the media will try to squeeze a story out of it in a slow news, non-football week. However, we'd have to be daft to be baited by it. Common sense prevails!
We signed Morris though so it's not just an age thing.
Perhaps we're trying to pay him a little more but won't know how much is in the cap until after trade week?
G-Mo77
06-09-2016, 09:53 AM
We signed Morris though so it's not just an age thing.
Perhaps we're trying to pay him a little more but won't know how much is in the cap until after trade week?
Perhaps he wants more?
Webby
06-09-2016, 10:34 AM
We signed Morris though so it's not just an age thing.
No it's not just an age thing. We are desperately short of key position defenders, yet have young fringe midfielders galore who are queuing up for senior footy. Some of them will be ten plus year players. There's an opportunity to rotate a glut of them through bench, back pocket, midfield in the coming year - which is good for the club.
Morris is holding absolutely no one's development up by his presence. However all this being said, Boyd will be re-signed. It's just going to be left until after finals as there's clearly no need for the club to be rash.
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