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ledge
16-08-2014, 11:54 PM
Just a note on something I was offered from my work place, apparently the club has a set up where you wear a jacket with some sort of electronic devices on it that record your body movements.
My work place approached me to do this at Carlton as it is the only place in Melbourne that has it. I have been approached as I have worked at this place for 6 years without injury, ( not bad for a 50 yo), this will be a worlds first where they will study 25 of us and employ people that fall in range with our movements.
My job is very physical and we have anywhere up to 60 people at a time on light duties.
I find it interesting that our club being a sports university why wouldn't we have it as well ?

azabob
17-08-2014, 08:53 AM
Wearing a jacket during training and game day wouldn't be practical?

jeemak
17-08-2014, 11:20 AM
It sounds quite specialised. Perhaps this is why VU-WB don't do it, or maybe they use a different method to track similar things.

bulldogtragic
17-08-2014, 01:30 PM
Interesting to see how the lawyers justify non selection for movements which are due a disability as per the legislation.

Twodogs
17-08-2014, 01:45 PM
Interesting to see how the lawyers justify non selection for movements which are due a disability as per the legislation.

Do you mean the unsuccessful applicant could claim the fact they can't move properly is a disability and then sue the company on the basis of them being discriminated against on the basis of their disability?

bulldogtragic
17-08-2014, 01:55 PM
Do you mean the unsuccessful applicant could claim the fact they can't move properly is a disability and then sue the company on the basis of them being discriminated against on the basis of their disability?

Correct. The company may assert that the applicant could not properly fulfill the 'inherent requirements' of the position owing to this measuring technique and the company is reducing OH&S risk. An unsuccessful applicant would have an argument to say that this measuring technique may or mat not be an 'inherent requirement' and that the company could make reasonable modifications to allow a successful applicant. Further, if an unsuccessful applicant cannot move as per the measuring test and that relates to an injury as defined in the act, then the unsuccessful applicant could try to mount a case saying they were effectively denied employment owing to their disability which could have been reasonably accommodated. The proviso is say someone with a shoulder injury or other injury/disability, not a serious injury or disability that cannot be reasonably accommodated. If this is the basis, claims to Fair Work Commission and Human Rights bodies can be made for discrimination.

Twodogs
17-08-2014, 04:07 PM
Interesting argument.

There's a tiny bit of me screaming that it could be seen as a cynical explotation of the disability act. I guess it would depend on what exclusions are written into the act and whether the company could use them.

bulldogtragic
17-08-2014, 04:12 PM
Interesting argument.

There's a tiny bit of me screaming that it could be seen as a cynical explotation of the disability act. I guess it would depend on what exclusions are written into the act and whether the company could use them.

Possibly. The main exclusion is that despite something being an inherent requirement, accommodations to suit employment would not be reasonable. I've not read the DDA for a few years so I may be out of date, but any company doing this should have had a very senior Barrister's opinion as something to rely on. If any compaany hasn't thought this through, it will be a very expesnive exercise, more so if they can't do it.

ledge
17-08-2014, 05:52 PM
I would say all the other normal employment requirements would apply as in work history, reliability previous experience, we know companies all can find a way not to employ someone using other reasons

SlimPickens
18-08-2014, 11:55 AM
Just a note on something I was offered from my work place, apparently the club has a set up where you wear a jacket with some sort of electronic devices on it that record your body movements.
My work place approached me to do this at Carlton as it is the only place in Melbourne that has it. I have been approached as I have worked at this place for 6 years without injury, ( not bad for a 50 yo), this will be a worlds first where they will study 25 of us and employ people that fall in range with our movements.
My job is very physical and we have anywhere up to 60 people at a time on light duties.
I find it interesting that our club being a sports university why wouldn't we have it as well ?

Because in short it is BS. To effectively measure how our bones, joints, tissues move you literally would need to drill into the bone to place a measuring device. What this jacket measure is well how much the jacket moves.

Carlton did something similar with Lycra suits to measure deficiencies in players movement. It was apparently all the rage but all
It showed was how electrodes placed on a Lycra suit moved . They tried to correlate this with pattern injuries and it came up with peanuts and was a completely waste of money.

I won't bore you with the science but the reason our club is doing something like this is because it's pointless.

LostDoggy
19-08-2014, 10:11 PM
I would say all the other normal employment requirements would apply as in work history, reliability previous experience, we know companies all can find a way not to employ someone using other reasons

Like that cafe owner in Sydney?:)