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jazzadogs
29-09-2014, 07:03 PM
Interesting excerpt from Dean Cox's new autobiography. It would have been an incredible time to be at that club. (Sorry about the layout, that's how it was online)




I would love a dollar for every time I have been asked what actually transpired during that trip to Las Vegas in October 2006.

The club sent assistant coaches Tony (Boobie) Micale and Neil Ross, with match-committee member Tim Gepp and fitness guru Glenn Stewart, to oversee the end-of-season excursion, and it was just as well.

From the moment the rest of the boys checked in to our Las Vegas hotel, we didn’t stop.

In addition to our rooms at the MGM Grand, we hired a suite at the nearby Mandalay Bay where we would converge and kickstart our nights of partying with a fines session and drinking games, invariably followed by our increasing fondness for wrestling one another.

There is no doubt that some guys partied harder and longer than others, which brings us to the oft-asked question of drugs.

Did West Coast players take drugs in Las Vegas in 2006? The truth is, probably some of them did.

Definitely not all, though. The trip has been described as a five-day drug binge, but that certainly wasn’t the case.

Our third night started like the previous two but would have a different ending. After a recovery day, the players gathered for a feed and a few beers.

On this night about a dozen of us went to Pure Nightclub at Caesars Palace. A haunt of many celebrities, including the Hilton sisters, it was a trademark Las Vegas after-hours establishment: big, bold and beautiful.

It’s fair to say it had any nightspot in Perth covered. Making the most of the occasion, we organised a booth inside the club and lived it up with bottle service like the rich and famous.

Less than a fortnight earlier, we had been straining every sinew to claim the ultimate prize in Australian Rules football before more than 97,000 supporters at the MCG and many millions more watching on television throughout Australia, and now here we were, virtually anonymous in one of the more upscale clubs in Las Vegas, sitting on pristine white couches and necking bottles of vodka like rock stars at an after-party.

Some guys weren’t regular vodka drinkers, but they were skolling from the bottle, having shots at regular intervals and drinking at an unsustainable pace.

Inevitably, given the volume of alcohol consumed, it was only a matter of time before a bouncer came over and told us to tone it down.

No problem. We agreed to turn the dial left, but after another hour of drinking, Chad Fletcher was struggling, sliding off his seat, and as often as we picked him up to put him back on it, he’d slide off again.

We pointed out to Fletch that it might be best if he went back to the hotel and he agreed. We walked him outside and Tyson Stenglein volunteered to take him home, grabbing a cab and heading back down the Strip to the MGM Grand.

Later, when I was in the outside area talking with Hunts and taking in the lights of the Strip, I checked my pockets and found I had a missed call from Boobie. When I rang him back he told me that shortly after arriving back at the hotel, Fletch had collapsed and needed to be rushed to a local hospital.

The concern in Boobie’s voice was obvious. Hunts and I immediately returned to the hotel; we weren’t aware of just how sick Fletch was, so although we were alarmed, we probably weren’t in the right frame of mind to have a complete grasp on the seriousness of the situation. Clearly, though, he was in a bad way, and fortunately he received excellent medical care to steer him out of the woods. The incident dampened the mood of the trip, which was coming to an end anyway, but it wouldn’t be the last we would hear of it.Shortly after touching down in Perth, it became apparent a shit storm was brewing around Fletch’s plight and how he had come to find himself in a Las Vegas hospital.

It raised eyebrows at AFL headquarters and football clubs throughout the country, chiefly ours. Trevor Nisbett and Woosha were extremely disappointed with our behaviour and the reports of excessive partying, not just overseas but in Australia. News was filtering through weekly on an incident here, an incident there — all involving Eagles players. Both Nizzy and Woosha knew the behaviour had escalated to a dangerous level, and it wasn’t any surprise that our antics were very much front and centre at a two-day strategic planning meeting in Broome organised by the board in November. Woosha informed the directors that there was a real issue with the squad that needed to be addressed. As players we knew we were testing the patience of key people at the club but, perhaps more alarmingly, we didn’t show sufficient respect to care. The assurances it wouldn’t happen again were just lip service.Cuz might not have been in America, but he didn’t need the bright lights of Las Vegas to discover trouble.

In Melbourne for a wedding just prior to the start of the club’s pre-season, our former skipper had a bender and fell asleep near Crown Casino, leading to his arrest and a stint in a cell. With his issues from earlier in the year and with so much heat on the club, this was the worst possible timing. Not that there is ever a good time to be processed by the constabulary. The fury around the club from senior officials, namely Nizzy and football department staff, was predictable and understandable. Because it was Cuz, it was massive news. But there is no denying that, with everything that had taken place since the grand final, the last thing the club needed was one of its headline acts spending a night behind bars. As soon as I heard what had transpired, even though Cuz was still officially on holidays, I braced myself for the backlash. By his own admission, Cuz found idle time difficult to negotiate. Therefore, the off-season was always a dangerous period.

With the structure of football and the requirements of training, meetings and preparation from week to week, he initially found it difficult to transgress. But as his addiction intensified, it became evident he was a young man with a real problem. The summer of 2006–07 was a period when his life spiralled out of control. But he was not alone. The boys were partying hard on Friday nights, which would then flow over into Saturdays and Saturday nights into Sundays. I was also enjoying the trappings that came with being a West Coast Eagle, a premiership-winning West Coast Eagle no less.There was no shortage of parties, functions or race meetings at Ascot to attend, with my local hotel, the Windsor, frequented regularly, along with its very accommodating bottle shop. Guys I hadn’t met previously were keen to have a beer and talk shop, and be seen in the company of an Eagle, at any time of the day or night. And there were girls equally interested in making my acquaintance and that of other single West Coast players. I was only too happy to oblige.

Clearly there were occasions where I overindulged and should have pulled up far earlier than I did during that period. But you live and you learn and I now know that I couldn’t have sustained a career at the elite level for as long as I did if I continued on that path. Normally, such a blatant disregard for professional standards would compromise the ability to train properly.Save for the odd occasion, though, one thing that wasn’t in question through the chaos of our pre-seasons of 2006 and 2007 was our ability to train to the point of exhaustion during the week.Cuz was one who used to tear up the training track, but the sight of him running with freedom and a clear mind became less frequent towards the end of 2006. Cuz wasn’t healthy when pre-season started and things only got worse as the weeks went by.

He saw the weekends as a time to cut loose, and an Eagles squad on a Monday minus Ben Cousins became increasingly prevalent. On some occasions when he did show up at the club on a Monday, he was in a frame of mind best described as scrambled. There were other instances where the explanation for his absence was that he was “sick”.This was okay until feedback started to come in that he had been partying hard only twenty-four hours earlier.

As a leadership group we weren’t without our faults either, but like the match committee and senior officials, we were keen to get to the bottom of it. However, it was hard to nail down what was actually transpiring, and we couldn’t make a hard-and-fast ruling on a player’s career without all of the facts and then some.As the pre-season progressed, Cuz’s drug use clearly got out of hand. Some days he would come in bouncing off the walls, other times he struggled to stand up. It was terribly sad to see, and a bad example for the younger players. Many of them idolised Cuz for his achievements and rightly so, but they were now being exposed to something normally reserved for pay TV. His plight deteriorated to such an extent that training and playing football became secondary.

First and foremost, it was about helping Cuz in any way possible. But you can’t help people who won’t help themselves and Cuz was in denial, even though it was apparent to everyone that he had a problem, that he wasn’t the same Ben Cousins we had come to know and love. He was encouraged by the club to seek professional help, but he elected not to. Having a meaningful conversation with him was difficult. Early in his career, Cuz would say what he was thinking. Now he was cold and distant and showed no interest in engaging with the players and coaches.A tumultuous off-season reached its flashpoint over a forty-eight-hour period on 17–19 March 2006. We played the Western Bulldogs in a practice match at Subiaco Oval on the Saturday afternoon, during which Cuz was typically influential.

That night Michael Braun held his engagement party, which was attended by most current and some former Eagles players, coaches and club officials. Cuz was conspicuous by his absence. The following morning we had our jumper presentation and family day at Subiaco Oval. It is a day young and old players enjoy each year.Young because they are presented to the club’s supporters and handed a jumper they hope to wear sooner rather than later; old because you just don’t tire of watching fresh-faced kids and recruits sporting a smile like a split watermelon when they are presented with their guernsey. But this day was like no other. Cuz rocked up to the club in a terrible state; he could hardly put a sentence together and laboured through a routine recovery run around Kitchener Park he would have performed a thousand times previously.

The guys, young and old, were shocked that he would present in such a state knowing full well he was going to be seen in public. It became obvious to just about everyone who saw him that something wasn’t right. If there was a positive, it was that some fans would have been too young to comprehend what they had witnessed. But there was no denying this was the concrete proof needed by the club and everyone keen to put a stop to the messy saga.

The Sunday drama seemingly over, the players arrived at the club for a Monday morning session and it was no great surprise that Cuz didn’t attend.Others, myself included, just shook our heads in disbelief. Players are often removed from the events that go on behind the scenes at a football club, but it was clear something was bubbling.There were more people in and around the club than normal and there was a host of conversations going on between coaches, football department staff and senior club officials that, from a distance, appeared far more meaningful than you would expect in late March, just under a fortnight out from a season-opening match.

Daniel Chick and Embers had been involved in a dispute on the Sunday over the wellbeing of Cuz and, from the moment Chicky arrived at the club early in the week, it quickly became apparent a confrontation was brewing between the two. Both were still seething at the events of the Sunday, prompting an arrangement for the pair to put on the boxing gloves and get in the ring to sort out their differences. As fate would have it, they crossed paths well before the gloves had been donned and got stuck in, requiring them to be separated by other players.

They were quickly summoned to Woosha’s office, where their differences were put to one side. But the drama continued. AFL drug testers arrived to take samples from both Cuz and Chicky, further evidence that the club was off the rails.Cuz’s inability to attend two training sessions on the Monday was the final straw. The leadership group was consulted, as was the match committee, and then the club’s board, armed with recommendations, suspended him indefinitely. The suspension was announced by Dalton Gooding on the Tuesday morning, with a massive media contingent on hand for the delivery of the most stunning news to the outside world. I, along with many other senior players, mused at how we had got to this stage. Our penchant for hard partying pre-and post-2006 premiership triumph had well and truly caught up with us. The club’s favourite son, our spiritual leader, had been banished.

More... (https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/25120719/eagles-year-of-living-dangerously/)

LostDoggy
29-09-2014, 09:35 PM
I don’t know the exact number of players who answered in the affirmative when asked whether they had experimented with drugs, but I suspect it was in the double figures.

Geez

azabob
29-09-2014, 09:44 PM
Wow.

The bulldog tragician
29-09-2014, 09:51 PM
It is still hard to believe that the drug culture had such a grip on this club and that Cousins in particular could spiral out of control with it barely being reported for so long or challenged by the coaching group.

I wonder too where Cousins ' sad story will end.

FrediKanoute
29-09-2014, 11:48 PM
I'm not surprised. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a similar response in a number of other clubs as well.

Drunken Bum
29-09-2014, 11:52 PM
I don’t know the exact number of players who answered in the affirmative when asked whether they had experimented with drugs, but I suspect it was in the double figures.

Geez


Wow.


It is still hard to believe that the drug culture had such a grip on this club

Why are people so surprised about this? I would be surprised if at least 5-10 players from all clubs hadn't experimented with recreational drugs.

Ghost Dog
30-09-2014, 02:03 AM
Power corrupts

Remi Moses
30-09-2014, 02:22 AM
No great surprise really. It's a society issue, and that makes its way into a footy club.
I reckon Cox is only telling half the story on most occasions .

Remi Moses
30-09-2014, 02:24 AM
It is still hard to believe that the drug culture had such a grip on this club and that Cousins in particular could spiral out of control with it barely being reported for so long or challenged by the coaching group.

I wonder too where Cousins ' sad story will end.

The stupid thing was in protecting the drug culture did them more harm than good, and Worsfold's ignorance.
I suppose winning is paramount

chef
30-09-2014, 06:19 AM
Why are people so surprised about this? I would be surprised if at least 5-10 players from all clubs hadn't experimented with recreational drugs.

I agree. It would be the same for every footy club in the land. I know of a few country footy clubs that are really struggling to get youth because of their apparent drug culture.

Webby
30-09-2014, 06:23 AM
No great surprise really. It's a society issue, and that makes its way into a footy club.
I reckon Cox is only telling half the story on most occasions .

I'll raise you one-fifth of the story! Cousins was the fittest player in the AFL for a long while, there. Training intensity = fitness. Getting one's self 'up' for a training session after training session is pretty difficult to do - naturally!

As an ex-teammate would, the focus is on the "poor bloke" and "destruction" angle. However the performance enhancing angle is predictably unaddressed.... Cousins played by far the best football of his career at the height of his drug taking! His on-field output was at its peak in 2005. He won the Brownlow and 18 months later was outed as an amphetamines addict. Six months after his teammate's heart apparently stopped... As an 'elite' athlete who apparently had too much vodka...

Many Eagles players were admittedly on amphetamines. They played in two grand finals in the preceding two seasons leading up to Cousins' outing as an addict.. That addiction is acknowledged to have built up over many years of 'experimenting'. Sure, the longer term results have been predictably sad. However I struggle to overlook the fact that the Eagles played some pretty 'enhanced' football in the lead up to it all.

Although, I doubt Cox is going to touch on that point too much!! Nor will the AFL - who's drug testing program was exposed as a joke during the whole episode! For me, 2006 is a premiership with a question mark over it.. Add that to the COLA enhanced premierships and tanking-enhanced premierships and we have ourselves a competition which is just brimming with integrity!

Topdog
30-09-2014, 08:07 AM
Why are people so surprised about this? I would be surprised if at least 5-10 players from all clubs hadn't experimented with recreational drugs.

Because this isn't really talking about experiment with drugs, more about using them rather heavily on a weekly basis even during the footy season

LostDoggy
30-09-2014, 08:47 AM
Because this isn't really talking about experiment with drugs, more about using them rather heavily on a weekly basis even during the footy season

Correct. This saga is surely a cover-up by the WCE/AFL. Testing must have been 'casino random' in it's ability to miss players taking drugs during this period.

Drunken Bum
30-09-2014, 12:28 PM
Because this isn't really talking about experiment with drugs, more about using them rather heavily on a weekly basis even during the footy season

Once again i would be surprised if there were not a decent amount of players who used recreational drugs on at least a semi regular basis both during the season and off season.

lemmon
30-09-2014, 12:46 PM
Once again i would be surprised if there were not a decent amount of players who used recreational drugs on at least a semi regular basis both during the season and off season.

Yep young males between the ages of 18-33 would make up the vast majority of recreational drug users...let alone those making vastly above the average income for those usually in the age bracket. If apprentice carpenters and uni students get on it most weekends, you'd be silly to assume it's not widespread in AFL circles.

jeemak
30-09-2014, 01:09 PM
I'll raise you one-fifth of the story! Cousins was the fittest player in the AFL for a long while, there. Training intensity = fitness. Getting one's self 'up' for a training session after training session is pretty difficult to do - naturally!

As an ex-teammate would, the focus is on the "poor bloke" and "destruction" angle. However the performance enhancing angle is predictably unaddressed.... Cousins played by far the best football of his career at the height of his drug taking! His on-field output was at its peak in 2005. He won the Brownlow and 18 months later was outed as an amphetamines addict. Six months after his teammate's heart apparently stopped... As an 'elite' athlete who apparently had too much vodka...

Many Eagles players were admittedly on amphetamines. They played in two grand finals in the preceding two seasons leading up to Cousins' outing as an addict.. That addiction is acknowledged to have built up over many years of 'experimenting'. Sure, the longer term results have been predictably sad. However I struggle to overlook the fact that the Eagles played some pretty 'enhanced' football in the lead up to it all.

Although, I doubt Cox is going to touch on that point too much!! Nor will the AFL - who's drug testing program was exposed as a joke during the whole episode! For me, 2006 is a premiership with a question mark over it.. Add that to the COLA enhanced premierships and tanking-enhanced premierships and we have ourselves a competition which is just brimming with integrity!

Chronic binging on amphetamines, cocaine and booze (not to mention ketamine and ecstasy) wouldn't help an AFL player or a collective of AFL players perform at a higher level.

I look at this time in WCE history and think if anything they would have probably underachieved due to their partying culture, not overachieved.

Remi Moses
30-09-2014, 02:42 PM
Chronic binging on amphetamines, cocaine and booze (not to mention ketamine and ecstasy) wouldn't help an AFL player or a collective of AFL players perform at a higher level.

I look at this time in WCE history and think if anything they would have probably underachieved due to their partying culture, not overachieved.

Definitely . I'm not sure how they'd train or play when coming down

Webby
30-09-2014, 07:56 PM
Chronic binging on amphetamines, cocaine and booze (not to mention ketamine and ecstasy) wouldn't help an AFL player or a collective of AFL players perform at a higher level.

I look at this time in WCE history and think if anything they would have probably underachieved due to their partying culture, not overachieved.

No doubt destructive in the longer term, however anyone who tries amphetamines (particularly an athlete) would have to join the dots on the effects of 'uppers' pre-training sessions and/or matches.

As I say, it obviously got away from him. However, as I say, did it take 6 months for that to happen, or 6 years?
I guess we'll never know. However one thing I'm sure of is that Dean Cox's book will not bring us any closer to knowing!

With that being the case, 2006 has to remain a dubious flag..

jeemak
30-09-2014, 08:03 PM
No doubt destructive in the longer term, however anyone who tries amphetamines (particularly an athlete) would have to join the dots on the effects of 'uppers' pre-training sessions and/or matches.

As I say, it obviously got away from him. However, as I say, did it take 6 months for that to happen, or 6 years?
I guess we'll never know. However one thing I'm sure of is that Dean Cox's book will not bring us any closer to knowing!

With that being the case, 2006 has to remain a dubious flag..

I'm fairly convinced he wasn't smashing the glass BBQ before training and games, but we can agree to disagree on that.

Remi Moses
30-09-2014, 08:51 PM
No doubt destructive in the longer term, however anyone who tries amphetamines (particularly an athlete) would have to join the dots on the effects of 'uppers' pre-training sessions and/or matches.

As I say, it obviously got away from him. However, as I say, did it take 6 months for that to happen, or 6 years?
I guess we'll never know. However one thing I'm sure of is that Dean Cox's book will not bring us any closer to knowing!

With that being the case, 2006 has to remain a dubious flag..

Probably just as dubious as the 05 Barry Hall GF.
Love big bad, but he should have been suspended

LostDoggy
30-09-2014, 09:01 PM
I'm fairly convinced he wasn't smashing the glass BBQ before training and games, but we can agree to disagree on that.

Glass BBQ, lol. At a much lower level I recall being surrounded by associates who'd systematically bake light globes in their cars before each game they played in country football. Made them relaxed and fearless on the field. Terrible stuff.

Ozza
30-09-2014, 10:34 PM
Why are people so surprised about this? I would be surprised if at least 5-10 players from all clubs hadn't experimented with recreational drugs.

Yep.

Certainly pre-recreational drug testing days in the AFL, there were AFL players who preferred drugs over alcohol - as the alcohol was seen as worse for the recovery and for keeping the skin folds down.

The Eagles appear to have had a worse/more public problem with it - but as you say- every club would have had players experimenting both in and out of the season.

EasternWest
01-10-2014, 10:21 AM
I'm fairly convinced he wasn't smashing the glass BBQ before training and games, but we can agree to disagree on that.


Glass BBQ, lol. At a much lower level I recall being surrounded by associates who'd systematically bake light globes in their cars before each game they played in country football. Made them relaxed and fearless on the field. Terrible stuff.

I'm so out of touch, I don't understand any of this.

ledge
01-10-2014, 11:00 AM
See I am 50 and I played football and cricket in the western suburbs and never saw it, except at one club, but even then it was kept very secretive until we won a Gf and it was offered around to celebrate.
I was around 17 at the time and the club was always getting kicked out of competitions for its violence but to play with the club you were amazed at how family orientated and great the club was.. It was a strange atmosphere.

jeemak
01-10-2014, 12:25 PM
I'm so out of touch, I don't understand any of this.

Google search it my friend.

Twodogs
01-10-2014, 01:10 PM
I'm so out of touch, I don't understand any of this.


It's a reference to the glass pipe users use to smoke ice.

Twodogs
01-10-2014, 01:13 PM
The stupid thing was in protecting the drug culture did them more harm than good, and Worsfold's ignorance.
I suppose winning is paramount


In AA/NA we call those people enablers. Enabling is bad mmmm'kay.

I don't know that Worsfold would have been ignorant of what was going on.

EasternWest
01-10-2014, 02:16 PM
Error

EasternWest
01-10-2014, 02:17 PM
Google search it my friend.

You could have just been a bro and told me, friend.


It's a reference to the glass pipe users use to smoke ice.

Thanks, friend.

jeemak
01-10-2014, 02:29 PM
You could have just been a bro and told me, friend.



Thanks, friend.

Sorry, I didn't think explaining references to drug consumption methods was appropriate, though on reflection I suppose it's probably no big deal.

LostDoggy
01-10-2014, 02:32 PM
EW, so you can play along at home, they also use traditonal light globes by taking the metal conductor off, putting the ice inside, then smoking it per the pipe that TD mentioned. The Spring Valley bong of ice users.

EasternWest
01-10-2014, 02:32 PM
No sweat jeemak. I thought it might be something like that, but I was wary of googling the terms at work. Maybe overly paranoid, but I like my job.

EasternWest
01-10-2014, 02:33 PM
EW, so you can play along at home, they also use traditonal light globes by taking the metal conductor off, putting the ice inside, then smoking it per the pipe that TD mentioned. The Spring Valley bong of ice users.

This is turning into quite the the opener for me!

Twodogs
01-10-2014, 03:18 PM
EW, so you can play along at home, they also use traditonal light globes by taking the metal conductor off, putting the ice inside, then smoking it per the pipe that TD mentioned. The Spring Valley bong of ice users.


Nice analogy.