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bornadog
11-11-2014, 04:59 PM
The Western Bulldogs will go into the upcoming NAB AFL Draft with five live picks after delisting defender Daniel Pearce today.


The Bulldogs have committed to re-drafting the 21-year-old however, as a rookie listed player for season 2015.


After an impressive debut season in 2012 where he played five senior games, Pearce has not added to that tally, primarily due to injuries.


“We will give Daniel every opportunity to continue to develop at our club, albeit as a rookie,” List Manager Jason McCartney said.


“With a bit of bit of luck with his body, Daniel can be an important player for us.


“In light of that, we have committed to re-drafting him as a rookie.”


The Bulldogs hold 26,27,39,45,46 as live picks in the 2014 NAB AFL Draft and have already committed to selecting Zaine Cordy (father-son) with pick 64.


Pearce was selected with pick 49 in the 2011 NAB AFL Draft

Bulldog Revolution
11-11-2014, 05:03 PM
Right decision for the list

He hasn't had the best luck but will get a chance

bornadog
11-11-2014, 05:03 PM
Right decision for the list

He hasn't had the best luck but will get a chance

Will be 21 in the new year, so agree gives him a chance to get the body right and play to his potential.

The Bulldogs Bite
11-11-2014, 05:05 PM
Sound decision making yet again.

I'm not a big fan of rookie listing Pearce or Greenwood though. I think both have extreme limitations when it comes to delivering at the top level. Perhaps one of them being re-rookied would be OK, but certainly not both.

bulldogtragic
11-11-2014, 05:08 PM
Sound decision making yet again.

I'm not a big fan of rookie listing Pearce or Greenwood though. I think both have extreme limitations when it comes to delivering at the top level. Perhaps one of them being re-rookied would be OK, but certainly not both.

Yep, where we started this trade period, to now has been excellent. I can't think of too many periods where I think we made the best available calls within our circumstances. I hope Foster is rookied with our last rookie pick and Pearce second last. Would be a good outcome with 3 highish rookie picks.

Happy Days
11-11-2014, 05:35 PM
Well, got it half right.

GVGjr
11-11-2014, 05:57 PM
Right decision for the list

He hasn't had the best luck but will get a chance

It's the correct decision on a few levels and I'm also glad we have committed to drafting him as a rookie. It gives him a great chance to get back on to the senior list.

Our list management team have done a fine job.

Go_Dogs
11-11-2014, 06:07 PM
Sound decision.

Whilst Pearce has some limitations he can develop into a handy role player if he can get his body right.

ratsmac
11-11-2014, 06:45 PM
Definitely a good move by the club to delist him. I'm not too sure about rookie listing him though. He hasn't shown anything special so far IMO. The club must see something there. Good luck to him though.

whythelongface
11-11-2014, 07:02 PM
Sound decision to delist, however I would rather we had cut ties altogether.

The Underdog
11-11-2014, 07:48 PM
Glad we've re-committed to rookie listing him. He's had a bad run with injuries and played senior games in his first season. Be interesting to see how we attack the draft and rookie draft now.

The Bulldogs Bite
11-11-2014, 08:10 PM
Interesting to see the divide of opinion on Pearce re: rookie listing him already.

What did those pro Pearce believe he can bring to the table at AFL level?

Bulldog Revolution
11-11-2014, 08:15 PM
Sound decision making yet again.

I'm not a big fan of rookie listing Pearce or Greenwood though. I think both have extreme limitations when it comes to delivering at the top level. Perhaps one of them being re-rookied would be OK, but certainly not both.

Greenwood overlaps with too many other types on our list for me - particularly Prudden, Smith who seem to have more strengths

Pearce is quick and agile, has a powerful leg and is good overhead.

Sedat
11-11-2014, 09:44 PM
Sound decision.

Whilst Pearce has some limitations he can develop into a handy role player if he can get his body right.
Yep, another prudent list management decision - very impressed with JMac's work since he joined us.

I hope Pearce can get an injury free run at it next year - he deserves an uninterrupted crack at it.

F'scary
11-11-2014, 09:46 PM
Greenwood overlaps with too many other types on our list for me - particularly Prudden, Smith who seem to have more strengths

Pearce is quick and agile, has a powerful leg and is good overhead.

As long as it is not an alleged leg cannon.

Bulldog Joe
11-11-2014, 10:06 PM
I am quite happy with this decision. Pearce has played ok despite injury limitations.
Can lock down as a defender, shows some pace and is good overhead for his size.

When we are talking about State League players to be ready to step up to cover LTI he fits the bill.

I also like Greenwood for a re-rookie. Greenwood was very good in all the VFL finals and would slot in to cover a LTI.

Dry Rot
11-11-2014, 10:18 PM
Sound decision making yet again.

I'm not a big fan of rookie listing Pearce or Greenwood though. I think both have extreme limitations when it comes to delivering at the top level. Perhaps one of them being re-rookied would be OK, but certainly not both.

Are we rookie listing Greenwood?

GVGjr
11-11-2014, 10:20 PM
Are we rookie listing Greenwood?

That appears to be the plan. He made a bit of progress in the latter part of the season and has impressed the VFL guys with his work ethic.

Dry Rot
11-11-2014, 10:23 PM
That appears to be the plan. He made a bit of progress in the latter part of the season and has impressed the VFL guys with his work ethic.

Ok thanks

bornadog
11-11-2014, 10:28 PM
Greenwood overlaps with too many other types on our list for me - particularly Prudden, Smith who seem to have more strengths

Pearce is quick and agile, has a powerful leg and is good overhead.

Great mark and goal in the VFL GF

boydogs
11-11-2014, 11:24 PM
Good to see we're using all our top 50 picks. Thought we might have rookie listed Fuller instead of Pearce for his contracted 2nd year, but splitting hairs when compared to paying pick 46 to keep either of them on the main list

Remi Moses
12-11-2014, 02:20 AM
Like others, it's great to see us use all our picks .
Not sure on Pierce yet, so great that he will be rookied

westdog54
12-11-2014, 04:52 AM
Interesting to see the divide of opinion on Pearce re: rookie listing him already.

What did those pro Pearce believe he can bring to the table at AFL level?

He is very strong overhead and has good hands. Defends one on one reasonably well and is handy when he sneaks forward.

Rookie listing him is not a disaster.

Bulldog Revolution
12-11-2014, 08:46 AM
Great mark and goal in the VFL GF

And those are the flashes of brilliance he has shown and why I believe its worth giving him a year to see if he can get his shoulders/knees right

In his first year he played some reasonable AFL footy as a rebounding defender - I liked that role for him

Mofra
12-11-2014, 09:32 AM
Pearce is quick and agile, has a powerful leg and is good overhead.
Quick?
I thought the lack of leg speed for his size was a major knock on him - he doesn't seem to use his pace in games if he has it.
In the meantime we've added Fuller, Darley & Biggs - and I'd suggest the latter 2 are now ahead of him.

I don't; have a problem giving him a rookie spot though - it's likely he is better than whomever else we would have rookied.

Avoid the rush
12-11-2014, 10:45 AM
Really looking forward to watching Darley , Prudden , Honeychurch , Biggs and Redpath next season. Incredibly impressed with JASON Maccartney's list management and rapt how brave the dogs were to take Tom Boyd.....no matter the final outcome. Makes our footy club relevant and the upcoming coaching appointment will continue that relevance. Bring on 2015!!!!

lemmon
12-11-2014, 11:06 AM
Good call for mine, looks a bit vanilla and not sure he has enough weapons to become an AFL footballer but you cant bemoan a hard working kid getting opportunity

LostDoggy
12-11-2014, 11:12 AM
See Greenwood is out there training with the younger lads, probably makes it increasingly likely that he will get a spot on the rookie list. What does this.mean for Foster?

westdog54
12-11-2014, 11:17 AM
See Greenwood is out there training with the younger lads, probably makes it increasingly likely that he will get a spot on the rookie list. What does this.mean for Foster?

As it stands the rookie list is empty.

We have committed verbally to Pearce, and its highly likely Greenwood will get another shot also. That leaves two spots open so I can't see any issue with Foster getting a gig if that's what we want.

Cyberdoggie
12-11-2014, 12:31 PM
That appears to be the plan. He made a bit of progress in the latter part of the season and has impressed the VFL guys with his work ethic.

I thought they were leaving that up to the new coach to some degree, but i would say it seems more than likely.

Maddog37
12-11-2014, 02:16 PM
I hope we have JMac stitched up for a decent term

bornadog
13-08-2015, 04:13 PM
Rookie Daniel Pearce has been upgraded to the Club’s primary list.


Rookie utility Daniel Pearce has been elevated to the Club’s primary list, replacing Clay Smith who was placed on the long term injury list today.
Pearce has enjoyed a strong run of form in the VFL this season, and has been used through the midfield and in the forward line after spending most of his career as a rebounding defender.

The 2014 VFL Premiership player has played 15 matches this season, after injury limited him to just nine matches last season.


Pearce was taken with the Bulldogs’ third round selection in the 2011 AFL National Draft (pick 49 overall) and was delisted at the end of the 2014 season, before being redrafted in the 2015 AFL Rookie Draft.

Happy Days
13-08-2015, 04:17 PM
Interesting.

If he gets a game, will it be in the midfield or down back? If it's down back, does this mean maybe Murphy forward might become more regular?

I personally don't see why we'd do this, but good luck to him.

FrediKanoute
13-08-2015, 04:22 PM
To me we can only be doing this to give him a run, to see whether he has anything to offer before we make a final decision.

The Bulldogs Bite
13-08-2015, 04:28 PM
Very odd.

Doc26
13-08-2015, 04:34 PM
Say that again !

Templeton31
13-08-2015, 04:47 PM
must be to play him this week?

comrade
13-08-2015, 04:49 PM
Bevo wants to see what we've got, it seems.

A couple of solid performances might either save his career.

bulldogtragic
13-08-2015, 04:50 PM
Strange. Kicked a bag a few weeks ago as a small forward. Who knows??

The Bulldogs Bite
13-08-2015, 04:52 PM
Dickson a possible out this week?

always right
13-08-2015, 04:52 PM
Just when you think you've seen it all.......wow! His form has been good with Footscray this year but it seems to be an odd time to elevate him.....late in the season, pushing for top four and plenty of his type to chose from. Still......good luck to him.

G-Mo77
13-08-2015, 04:56 PM
Dickson a possible out this week?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well.

Good on him though. He's put together some good form and has earnt a call up. All the best Daniel. I hope he's prepared to be called Clancee now. ☺

Twodogs
13-08-2015, 05:12 PM
He has earned his spot on the list with some very good footy at Footscray. Nothing odd about that, you can't have too many in form players wanting a spot in the team.

GVGjr
13-08-2015, 05:59 PM
Dickson a possible out this week?

I think this is a sneaky chance. If Pearce is to play I think it will be as a forward.

westdog54
13-08-2015, 06:06 PM
I think this is a sneaky chance. If Pearce is to play I think it will be as a forward.

Agree.

He's actually very good overhead and is a good set shot.

Cyberdoggie
13-08-2015, 06:14 PM
Interesting. Wouldn't of thought it would be the time to start playing around with the list with 4 games to go.
Not saying he doesn't deserve a shot.

Sedat
13-08-2015, 07:06 PM
Interesting. Wouldn't of thought it would be the time to start playing around with the list with 4 games to go.
Not saying he doesn't deserve a shot.
I se it more as preserving the overall health of the list by giving as many players as possible a chance to rest up over the course of a very long season. If we can secure a top 8 berth ion the next couple of weeks, I think we will be making minimal changes in the lead-up to the finals.

1eyedog
13-08-2015, 07:08 PM
I se it more as preserving the overall health of the list by giving as many players as possible a chance to rest up over the course of a very long season. If we can secure a top 8 berth ion the next couple of weeks, I think we will be making minimal changes in the lead-up to the finals.

Agreed we need an unchanged line up in the two weeks heading into the EF or QF whichever applies and we still don't know who will get the nod. It's important we use this week's game against a team with less risk to find out.

josie
13-08-2015, 07:12 PM
He has earned his spot on the list with some very good footy at Footscray. Nothing odd about that, you can't have too many in form players wanting a spot in the team.

Entirely agree Twodogs. I've seen most of the VFL home games and a few of the away games this year and he has been hard at it and a good shot at goal. Versatile mid & forward option. He is a very good tackler IMO too. Agree Dickson might get a rest this week. I actually think he has done OK in the few AFL games his played too (quite a while ago now). Go Pearce !!

Smads57
13-08-2015, 07:17 PM
Have seen a number of VFL games live and have been impressed with his pressure on the ball carrier. He has also seen a bit of midfield action during the year. Good luck Daniel.

bornadog
13-08-2015, 07:50 PM
Dickson a possible out this week?

Subbed last week so may be rested.

jeemak
13-08-2015, 07:57 PM
Subbed last week so may be rested.

I don't think he'll come up from a hip/buttock sustained on the Members wing.

azabob
13-08-2015, 08:37 PM
Yet Dickson has been named in the starting 18.

Go_Dogs
13-08-2015, 08:40 PM
Good for him.

He's had a consistent year, and hopefully he can turn in a few good performances at senior level. He's an interesting player for mine in that he's potentially a jack of all trades who can plug holes in most areas on the ground. Whilst not super quick or an elite user, he's competent in a lot of what he does.

He's also probably the one rookie we haven't made a decision on heading into 2016, with Smith and Kelly both likely to in the very least be retained as rookies, and Goodes unlikely to be retained.

jeemak
13-08-2015, 08:50 PM
I'm really happy for Pearce.

It's up to him now to either prove he can play at the level for us, or at the level for a club willing to take him on and give him an opportunity.

Twodogs
13-08-2015, 09:28 PM
The preseason before last as they were coming into match practice phase Pearce was flying. He was marking everything, kicking goals, running players down with tackles, he starred all through match practice. He looked strong and fit but then got injured and barely played a game last year.

He can play.

GVGjr
13-08-2015, 09:31 PM
Yet Dickson has been named in the starting 18.

It's potentially a bit like Hamling last week. Not in the initial squad but straight into the team to replace JJ.

LostDoggy
13-08-2015, 10:46 PM
It would not surprise at all if 1 of our starting 18 was a late withdrawl this week and at least 4 of the current bench made the final 22.

1eyedog
14-08-2015, 12:14 AM
Geez everyone is getting a run. Could be a good time to jump the fence at training!

Remi Moses
14-08-2015, 12:23 AM
He has earned his spot on the list with some very good footy at Footscray. Nothing odd about that, you can't have too many in form players wanting a spot in the team.

He's been in really good form, and looks more composed .
Don't think it's odd as Luke B still wants to see what players have to offer .

bornadog
14-08-2015, 08:06 AM
Geez everyone is getting a run. Could be a good time to jump the fence at training!

Bev is testing and sorting for next year.

G-Mo77
14-08-2015, 09:30 AM
Geez everyone is getting a run. Could be a good time to jump the fence at training!

I'd struggle to jump the fence. ☺

Rocco Jones
14-08-2015, 10:47 PM
Wasn't brave enough to call it yesterday but going with it now. Pearce = specialist non playing emergency.

Sedat
14-08-2015, 11:18 PM
Wasn't brave enough to call it yesterday but going with it now. Pearce = specialist non playing emergency.
The Andy Bichel of the AFL :D

Twodogs
14-08-2015, 11:18 PM
So Pearce isn't playing?

GVGjr
14-08-2015, 11:25 PM
So Pearce isn't playing?

He's been named as an emergency

always right
15-08-2015, 09:41 AM
I'm feeling a late change.....otherwise what was the point of elevating him?

Rocco Jones
15-08-2015, 10:24 AM
Wasn't brave enough to call it yesterday but going with it now. Pearce = specialist non playing emergency.

It sounds like a joke but I kinda mean this. Pearce offers a bit of versatility, a more mature body and him being a non-playing emergency means a kid doesn't miss out on getting a full VFL game. Our VFL team plays before the VFL one the next two rounds and the last round we are interstate. This means 3 of our last 4 we will go with a non-playing emergency.

azabob
15-08-2015, 10:24 AM
I'm feeling a late change.....otherwise what was the point of elevating him?

To let him know he is close. To push that little bit harder for that little bit longer.

Rocco Jones
15-08-2015, 10:37 AM
I'm feeling a late change.....otherwise what was the point of elevating him?

It was the rookie list upgrade cut off. If we didn't upgrade a rookie, we would have had one less player for select our 22 from.