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bornadog
06-02-2015, 09:02 PM
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Former Bomber Stewart Crameri. Photo: Getty Images



The Western Bulldogs are seriously considering removing Stewart Crameri from the NAB Challenge to avoid losing the opportunity of an undisputed backdated penalty.

The Bulldogs seem unlikely to apply to have Crameri's provisional suspension lifted for pre-season games. This follows Port Adelaide's decision to let Paddy Ryder and Angus Monfries sit out the first two games of the NAB Challenge while the ASADA tribunal case is running.

Under the rules, players are provisionally suspended but can apply to have the suspensions lifted. This step however could compromise any penalty if the players are found guilty, or a potential deal.
Essendon's situation is far more complicated because of the number of players with provisional suspensions. They may need top-up players to field a team in the pre-season if the club opted not to apply to have the bans lifted.
There are 17 or 18 listed Essendon players who are under provisional suspensions as a result of infraction notices issued in November.
If the players are given suspensions of six months, which would include discounts for co-operation, much of this could be backdated from the time when infractions were issued.

The AFL set a precedent by allowing Jobe Watson and Dustin Fletcher to play in the international rules series against the Irish, only days after the 34 current and former Essendon received infraction notices.

The players' legal team has been increasingly optimistic the players will beat the charges but the case still has some weeks to go and will not conclude until shortly before the home-and-away season.
Port Adelaide is hoping the case will be settled before their final NAB Challenge on March 21 against Adelaide.

The Bulldogs do not have the same concerns about confidentiality as Essendon.
Cramer and ex-VFL player Brent Prismall were happy to have the ASADA tribunal case open to the public, but the 32 other Essendon players and their legal representatives wanted the hearing closed.

bulldogtragic
06-02-2015, 09:06 PM
Fingers crossed...

Topdog
07-02-2015, 09:22 AM
What cooperation????

bornadog
11-02-2015, 03:12 PM
Stewart Crameri likely to sit out pre-season matches, say Western Bulldogs (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/stewart-crameri-likely-to-sit-out-preseason-matches-say-western-bulldogs-20150211-13bo79.html)
Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says the "common-sense" approach would most likely be for Stewart Crameri to sit out most of the NAB Challenge, as he remains provisionally suspended as a result of the Essendon supplements saga.


The Bulldogs will discuss on Thursday whether Crameri will play in the NAB Cup. It seems unlikely after it emerged the Essendon players who received doping infractions would not seek to have their provisional suspensions lifted and would miss the opening two pre-season matches.


Beveridge told Fairfax Media on Wednesday the Dogs would again consult their legal team, with Crameri and Dogs' VFL player Brent Prismall having their own legal team separate to the remaining 32 former and current Essendon players.


"We'll have a conversation about that on Thursday, but we had indicated there was a possibility he might miss," Beveridge said.


"Now that the Essendon players have gone that way - it's sort of weight of numbers at the moment. It's hard for him to process not playing. Now, because the majority are doing it, the common-sense approach is probably not to play."


Crameri and Prismall are represented by the legal firm of criminal lawyer Rob Stary, a Bulldogs' board observer. The son of club president Peter Gordon, Patrick Gordon, has attended the AFL anti-doping hearings as a member of Crameri's legal team.


Port Adelaide has already said Patrick Ryder and Angus Monfries, two former Bombers issued with infraction notices, would not play the opening two NAB Challenge games, during which time the anti-doping panel could deliver its result into charges whether the 34 players were administered the banned drug, thymosin beta-4.


"We had some conversations around whether we would go around the way Port Adelaide have gone. It's been a stressful time, obviously," Beveridge said.


"You can imagine, Stewy, if you or I were in that position, you don't feel like you have done anything wrong and you just want to forge ahead and you want to play.


"What has happened, because of the possibility the verdict goes against the boys, and they (ASADA) backdate the penalty to when you last played, if you play the NAB, you miss the whole year, if it's six months (suspension). If they back date it to the end of last season, and they haven't played NAB, you mightn't miss anything."


Beveridge said Crameri had the full support of the club.


"He knows he has my support, that anything in relation to, or affects him, isn't going to affect his position in the team, so don't stress about that - to set his mind at ease," he said.


"We want to make sure his emotional and physical well-being is maintained."


The Dogs open their NAB Challenge against Richmond at the Whitten Oval on February 28.

1eyedog
11-02-2015, 04:20 PM
If he waits until a determination is made he may not play for quite some time.

LostDoggy
12-02-2015, 12:03 PM
If he waits until a determination is made he may not play for quite some time.

That's fine. I actually think it's more important to stand by Stew and do what's best for him and his career. We can cover him at the moment.

1eyedog
12-02-2015, 01:58 PM
That's fine. I actually think it's more important to stand by Stew and do what's best for him and his career. We can cover him at the moment.

Agreed. Aren't they making a decision end of March on the eve of round 1? Hopefully he doesn't miss too many. No beef with the Essendon players either ultimately it's Hird's downfall that I want.

Maddog37
12-02-2015, 03:07 PM
That's fine. I actually think it's more important to stand by Stew and do what's best for him and his career. We can cover him at the moment.

Think we can get a rousing version of "I'll stand by Stew" sung by Chrissie Hynde?

LostDoggy
12-02-2015, 05:57 PM
Think we can get a rousing version of "I'll stand by Stew" sung by Chrissie Hynde?

…I'll stand by Stew
I'll stand by Stew
Won't let nobody inject you
I'll stand by Stew…

Maddog37
12-02-2015, 06:03 PM
…I'll stand by Stew
I'll stand by Stew
Won't let nobody inject you
I'll stand by Stew…


This needs to be a cheer squad staple!