Game Day Round 10 2015 - Port Adelaide V Western Bulldogs

[Eastdog]

Margin: Dogs by 9 points - Would be so sweet heading into the bye 6-4
First Goal: T Boyd to get our first
Best On Ground: Wallis

[Remi Moses]

Dogs by 1pt ( how on earth are we $4.25 in this game)
BOG Wallis
1st goal Stringer

[boydogs]

Port by 2 points
First goal Stringer
BOG Dahlhaus

[bulldogtragic]

Bulldogs by 52
Boyd, Tom BOG
Minson first goal

[Twodogs]

Dogs by 17 points
BOG. Dahlhaus
First goal. Dickson

[The Bulldogs Bite]

I'd love to be confident, but we're light on in the midfield with some seriously raw players (Dale, Webb, McLean). Hope we're competitive.

Port by 22
BOG Wallis
First goal Boyd

[F'scary]

I am as high as a kite about this game and really looking forward to watching it at the local pub tomorrow night. Don't know why, it is going to be a very difficult game to win.

I will be watching it at Hart's Hotel, Victoria Street, Footscray. The publican is none other than Peter German, who has strong connections to us of course from the Williamstown VFL partnership days when he served as senior coach for Williamstown and development coach for the Bulldogs.

Western Bulldogs by 1 point
1st Goal: Jake Stringer.
BOG: Mitch Wallis.

[Twodogs]

Peter German was a very good footballer in his own right at North Melbourne.

[Twodogs]

I'd love to be confident, but we're light on in the midfield with some seriously raw players (Dale, Webb, McLean). Hope we're competitive.

Port by 22
BOG Wallis
First goal Boyd

We are going to miss Picken. That's a really bad out for us.

I count six mids with more than two preseasons Wallis, Macrae, Stevens, Dahlhaus, Jong and Hrovat. Seven if you count M. Boyd. Then there's Stringer, Dickson and Crameri and the three kids so we are very light on.

It looks like we will try and stretch them forward with Roughie and Boyd as targets. And keep our defensive structure and attack from there.

[Webby]

We are going to miss Picken. That's a really bad out for us.

I count six mids with more than two preseasons Wallis, Macrae, Stevens, Dahlhaus, Jong and Hrovat. Seven if you count M. Boyd. Then there's Stringer, Dickson and Crameri and the three kids so we are very light on.

It looks like we will try and stretch them forward with Roughie and Boyd as targets. And keep our defensive structure and attack from there.

Unfortunately i share those sentiments. . Familiar feeling for Dogs fan: expecting a beating, boping for the best!

Here's to one of those memorable ones!

[Cyberdoggie]

Looks like Caleb Daniel has made the trip over with the team, i'm guessing as the emergency only.

[1eyedog]

Thought Honeychurch might add more bite than Dale, not sure why he is in front of him, another selection head scratcher to me.

Port by 48 pts, they'll come good tonight unfortunately.
Dickson first goal
I'll go with Wallis for BOG.

[KT31]

Port by 10pts
BOG - Macrae
First Goal - Boyd

[ratsmac]

Port by 36
First goal - McLean (first kick first goal)
BOG - Wallis.

[azabob]

Thought Honeychurch might add more bite than Dale, not sure why he is in front of him, another selection head scratcher to me.

Port by 48 pts, they'll come good tonight unfortunately.
Dickson first goal
I'll go with Wallis for BOG.

Honeychurch hasn't played since he was subbed out a few weeks back. I think we may have learnt that with the younger blokes we can can't bring them straight back in and expect them to perform at the same level they were performing at previously.

[G-Mo77]

Honeychurch hasn't played since he was subbed out a few weeks back. I think we may have learnt that with the younger blokes we can can't bring them straight back in and expect them to perform at the same level they were performing at previously.

Honeychurch was a real key to our success early that being said he's been out for that long it would be hard to bring him straight back although I'd seriously consider it. Why he was out that long? Seems a long spell for someone who was being rested. Injured?

[azabob]

Honeychurch was a real key to our success early that being said he's been out for that long it would be hard to bring him straight back although I'd seriously consider it. Why he was out that long? Seems a long spell for someone who was being rested. Injured?

My recollection was he hurt his shoulder and hence why he was subbed out.

[The Adelaide Connection]

I mentioned it on another thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if Caleb Daniel is a late "in". He has made the trip over as a travelling emergency but he played three finals for South Adelaide on this ground last September (averaging about 20 disposals) so he would know the ground better than anyone on our squad.

[Ozza]

Think we are just too light on in the midfield

Port by 12 points
1st bulldog goal: Dahlhaus
Best: Dahlhaus

[azabob]

Thoughts on who will be the starting sub, and who will be subbed out?

I think Bailey will be the starting sub, and either Minson or McLean will be subbed out.

[AndrewP6]

Them by 30 points
BOG for us Wally
First goal for us Crammers.

[Twodogs]

My recollection was he hurt his shoulder and hence why he was subbed out.

The club went for rested as the official reason but he definitely hurt his shoulder in the last game he played.

[Greystache]

Dogs by 31
BOG - Wallis
First goal- Dahlhaus

Need to bring the intensity this week to win. We need to see the men of mayhem.

[1eyedog]

Honeychurch hasn't played since he was subbed out a few weeks back. I think we may have learnt that with the younger blokes we can can't bring them straight back in and expect them to perform at the same level they were performing at previously.

He brings intensity and gets to contests. I don't expect he will just switch back on but if he's right to go I would have expected him to come back in sooner rather than later ala Jong.

[lemmon]

Dogs by 6
BOG- Wally
First goal- Dahl

[Ghost Dog]

4.15 Bulldogs to Port 1.24

Anyone think this is worth a bet! Very tempted. Not too sold on Port stocks in the later part of the year.

Dogs by 6
BOG Dahl
First goal, number 16! The spirit of Crofty within.

[Eastdog]

I am as high as a kite about this game and really looking forward to watching it at the local pub tomorrow night. Don't know why, it is going to be a very difficult game to win.

I will be watching it at Hart's Hotel, Victoria Street, Footscray. The publican is none other than Peter German, who has strong connections to us of course from the Williamstown VFL partnership days when he served as senior coach for Williamstown and development coach for the Bulldogs.

Western Bulldogs by 1 point
1st Goal: Jake Stringer.
BOG: Mitch Wallis.

Hopefully your prediction is right F'scary and the pub goes crazy 😀

[F'scary]

Peter German was a very good footballer in his own right at North Melbourne.

Yes, he was a star in his era.

[G-Mo77]

4.15 Bulldogs to Port 1.24

Anyone think this is worth a bet! Very tempted. Not too sold on Port stocks in the later part of the year.

Dogs by 6
BOG Dahl
First goal, number 16! The spirit of Crofty within.

I don't bet on my own team, rarely bet at all anyway but it's worth a bet if you're keen.

[Flamethrower]

Just heard Robbo on SEN saying that he spoke to Leon Cameron after we beat the Giants - apparently they put very little time into stopping our game plan as they were confident theirs would overwhelm us. When we were all over them early the Giants tried everything to stop us - extra at stoppages, plus one behind the ball etc and nothing worked.

I find that interesting because I was confident that our game plan would stop theirs.

Not so sure this week - I think we will struggle againt Port. When they have momentum they play a high tempo "run and gun" style that can overwhelm teams (examples 1st quarter v Hawthorn / 2nd half v Melbourne).

When they don't they play a counter attacking "rope a dope" style, allowing multiple forward entrys but denying the ball in dangerous positions, then launching attacks from the half back line.

Justin Westhoff is key - in the 1st scenario he pushes forward to give them an extra tall in attack and in the 2nd he floats back to block the opposition's forward entries.

We really struggle against teams that play like this - for that reason a win against Port tonight would be very significant in our development - the most likely outcome is a loss of 5 to 10 goals.

[boydogs]

When they have momentum they play a high tempo "run and gun" style that can overwhelm teams (examples 1st quarter v Hawthorn / 2nd half v Melbourne).

When they don't they play a counter attacking "rope a dope" style, allowing multiple forward entrys but denying the ball in dangerous positions, then launching attacks from the half back line.

Justin Westhoff is key - in the 1st scenario he pushes forward to give them an extra tall in attack and in the 2nd he floats back to block the opposition's forward entries.

Sounds like us & Jarrad Grant

[Go_Dogs]

Dogs by 23
First Goal Stringer
BOG Stevens

[LostDoggy]

I mentioned it on another thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if Caleb Daniel is a late "in". He has made the trip over as a travelling emergency but he played three finals for South Adelaide on this ground last September (averaging about 20 disposals) so he would know the ground better than anyone on our squad.

Having CD as a late change would be an interesting move , probably the only player you would swap him him with is Dale . Its a high stakes game leading into the bye , CD's playing style is to use his mobility to create space and switch play but he has never played under AFL pressure . On the Team Sheet we have moved Dahlhaus to the middle which does leave a spot for a creative player in the forward line . The Coaching Staff have backed Dale to give him game time at a senior level , given what we have seen from Bevo so far this season I don't think we can discount a tactical move to swap Daniel for Dale as a late change

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 45
First goal-TBoyd
BOG-TBoyd

[LostDoggy]

The four main players for Port we need to shut down are Carlile and Pittard with their Rebound 50's - 3.75 and 3.67 a game , and also Wines and Gray with their Inside 50's - 4.40 and 4.38 , keeping them locked in with good pressure will effect their ability to build chains of possession

Dogs by 21
BOG - Wallis
First Goal - Dickson

[bornadog]

McClean is sub no other changes

[bornadog]

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[Eastdog]

Doggies scarf on at home and ready to go!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Dogs by 2 points
Dahlhaus first goal
Dahlhaus BOG

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Ready to go for the Eagleton/Montgomery Cup!;)

[Eastdog]

Great stuff from Hamling early. Love it!

[firstdogonthemoon]

Oh dear. Possibly Fox Footy's worst commentary team. But we look lively!

[Eastdog]

4 behinds need to take more advantage.

[The Underdog]

I see we've cleaned up the goal kicking issues...

[jeemak]

Dahl with two horror handballs result in Port chances, of which they take one.

Frustrating not to convert.

[AndrewP6]

Crameri's slowness and indecision is painful to watch. We're getting plenty of it, our endeavour is great....Port can goal and we have 4 behinds.

[Eastdog]

Very frustrating.

[G-Mo77]

What a rubbish decision against JJ!

[SlimPickens]

Great work by Grant and an excellent shark by Dale

[G-Mo77]

That'll do. Well done Dale.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Bailey Dailey!!!

[Webby]

That kick off the ground there by Bailey Dale shows that the kid has class. People may think "fluke", but don't believe it. That was a sign of class!

[AndrewP6]

Grant in a summary of his career. Great intercept mark followed by a rotten kick for goal.

[G-Mo77]

He was always going to miss. Real disappointing with his kicking at goal.

[jeemak]

Is Wood playing drunk?

[Eastdog]

Disappointing. Really should have killed it early on.

[G-Mo77]

Got one. Nice finish Crammers

[Eastdog]

We bring it back :)

[mjp]

3 clearances for number 9 and Wallis has swapped from Boak to try and slow him down. Key decision re match ups...

[SlimPickens]

3 clearances for number 9 and Wallis has swapped from Boak to try and slow him down. Key decision re match ups...

Need Jong to to help with negating around the stoppages. Their one free is killing us

[mjp]

Poor effort by Jong at that stoppage....any outcome would have been ok EXCEPT spilling the ball into space.

[LostDoggy]

Lin jong well off the pace of tonights game.

[G-Mo77]

Not bad so far. Too easy to score against on the rebound though.

[always right]

These Port players love running forward of the ball. Need to have some defensive cover on the outside.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

In the end, considering how easily Port were able to generate their goals, we've done well to be within a kick. We need to address our accountability at the stoppages to remain in contact with Port.
Does anyone else agree we would be the most wasteful and inefficient team when shooting for goal. So many of our supposed goalscorers have serious flaws in their kicking.

[G-Mo77]

2 hit the post so it's not all doom in front of the sticks. We do need to clean that area up a lot though.

[jeemak]

We started to score more easily which was pleasing.

We need to make it harder for them.

[SlimPickens]

Jong a liability at the moment.

[1eyedog]

Jong really struggling.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Jong is almost a 19th player for Port right now. He needs to lift big time.

[AndrewP6]

Jong my early call to be subbed. He's been well off the pace.

[bulldogtragic]

Jesse Stringer is awesome...

[SlimPickens]

Teflon Murph!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Great agility in tight and kick to set up that goal.

[AndrewP6]

Bob Murphy a star. Just terrific to watch.

[G-Mo77]

He's lost the confidence he had early in the season. Jong is a guy who need a good stint in the VFL to regain it.

[jeemak]

Rob Murphy is all class.

Jong his having a battle against his old self today. Seems to be in his shell and hesitant.

[jeemak]

Umps are missing a few.

[bulldogtragic]

Love Grants sit down tackle.

[LostDoggy]

Jessie stringer!!

[SlimPickens]

Stringer! What a freak

[jeemak]

Great work from Jong to hold the ball in our forward line and give us an opportunity for Jesse :) to goal.

[AndrewP6]

Jong doing a few good things now. Stringer is amazing.

[SlimPickens]

Umps are missing a few.

Letting a lot go. Tom Boyd gets nothing

[Eastdog]

Jessie stringer!!

That was bad.

[bulldogtragic]

I love whatever Bevo has done with Grant.

[Eastdog]

Our defence has worked very hard. Macrae has been involved quite a bit tonight.

[Eastdog]

Bad error there gifts them a goal.

[SlimPickens]

Terrible kick by Will. Silly mistakes costing us

[jeemak]

Will Minson seems to be back to his old self tonight. Needs to lift.

[Webby]

Will's kick into the corridor there was just not smart footy.

[Eastdog]

Will Minson seems to be back to his old self tonight. Needs to lift.

Been ok not th best but agree that moment wasn't his finest.

[SlimPickens]

Immature bodies around the footy are costing us.

[Eastdog]

M Boyd been good. How have you guys rated T Boyd's game so far?

[Raw Toast]

I thought perhaps it was a game where the ball wasn't bouncing our way at crucial moments but actually I think it is a bit dewy, we haven't played much at night (since R1 I think), and we're playing as if it's a sunny day - crucial that we stop trying to play as if the ball is dry.

[Eastdog]

This period hurting us.

[Eastdog]

Jong keeping going not giving up.

[FrediKanoute]

Poor finish to the quarter. Not getting enough clear ball. Always under pressure.

[Lukewarm Beveridge]

Absolute dagger.

[G-Mo77]

That late goal hurt, that very late goal hurt even more.

[jeemak]

M Boyd been good. How have you guys rated T Boyd's game so far?

He's doing it tough. Seems to be running on the spot and will be looking forward to the bye.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

It might only be a 16 point margin, but unless we buck a season trend we are staring down the barrel of a 2nd half pantsing.

We are ranked 1st & 3rd in the league respectively for 1st & 2nd Qtr scoring but 14th and 16th for our 3rd and 4th quarters.

[Eastdog]

He's doing it tough. Seems to be running on the spot and will be looking forward to the bye.

I don't want to criticise him too much. Still only his first year with us. He'll get there.

[always right]

First four misses were by our worst four kicks for goal?.....Grant, Stringer, Dahl, and McCrae. Really need to address this...it costs us badly. I get the sense grant actually expects to miss every time. Shame as he's played okay.

[ratsmac]

Jong's skills are terrible but his body pressure around the contest is important.

I thought they they are clearing from the contests better than us which has allowed them some clean breaks. They are making more of their opportunities than we are too. It's a good hard game that I feel port are getting the better of us to this point. (obviously, they're winning)

[jeemak]

Jong's skills are terrible but his body pressure around the contest is important.

I thought they they are clearing from the contests better than us which has allowed them some clean breaks. They are making more of their opportunities than we are too. It's a good hard game that I feel port are getting the better of us to this point. (obviously, they're winning)

They're smashing us in outside possession at the moment, it's allowing them to score more easily than we are.

It's reminding me a little of McCartney's years, where we'd fight incessantly for the inside ball and forget about the outside.

[Lukewarm Beveridge]

Anyway of checking anywhere when our last free was..? They've let it go plenty!

[firstdogonthemoon]

We are able to lift another gear when are we going to do so?

[bulldogtragic]

Get it to Grant already :)

[ratsmac]

Our fumbling and errant kicking is killing us. Decision making too.

[SlimPickens]

Boyd off. Right move

[bulldogtragic]

Get it to Grant already :)

I should coach!

[Lukewarm Beveridge]

Well done Grant! Been solid tonight IMO.
Boyd the right choice to come off aswell

[mjp]

How is Boyd going to learn if we keep putting him in a red vest?

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Good boy Musc!

[FrediKanoute]

How is Boyd going to learn if we keep putting him in a red vest?

I think though no point letting him suffer through a dirty night. He will get better and improve. Needs a rest which he will get next week. Big ask for a 19 yo to be a key forward.

[GVGjr]

How is Boyd going to learn if we keep putting him in a red vest?

Agreed, if he needs a rest then we should have given him the week off.

[bulldogtragic]

Crameri done anything of note this year?

[jeemak]

Crameri does some of the most moronic things.

[SlimPickens]

Crameri done anything of note this year?

Think he has been alright tonight in an unfamiliar role.

[Lukewarm Beveridge]

Yeah thought he's been pretty good.. Bar that 50 and blaze away late.

[Twodogs]

I've never seen umpires just flat out favour one side like this. This is unbelievable.

[SlimPickens]

Going to be a mighty effort in this last quarter. Hoping the heat of last week may make ports legs heavy. Going to be tough with at least 2 genuine mids missing.

[ratsmac]

I feel we can take this game. Port look buggered. We look tired but not as much as them. It's going to be a big last quarter. Survival of the fittest.

[GVGjr]

10 minutes of good football and we can win this

[SlimPickens]

I've never seen umpires just flat out favour one side like this. This is unbelievable.

Staggering some of the non mark calls are just ridiculous.

[The Underdog]

Crameri does some of the most moronic things.

Stringer's kick was equally as bad

[always right]

Crameri is the dumbest player in our side.
These umpires are corrupt.
We need a big last quarter from Jesse Stringer

[ratsmac]

I've never seen umpires just flat out favour one side like this. This is unbelievable.

Any 50/50 free they seem to get and blatant obviously ones to us is play on.

[Twodogs]

Crameri does some of the most moronic things.

Yet no 50 to Macrae for the same thing?

[G-Mo77]

Just 10 down but seems like 30. Boyd subbed out again. He was struggling but turned it over a few times with that kick to the sqaure.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

We've done well to keep it a tight affair, but Port still look the likelier to score. They are getting free player just not taking advantage. Some very good work in defense by Hamling and Wood.
Hamling seems very much up to the speed and has great temperament. Not since Mozz's debut against Adelaide have i seen a new defender appear so at ease so quickly.

[LostDoggy]

Hard game for T.Boyd to get in to with us not really hitting targets .
We have structured to score from stoppages but we need to open up more chains of possession both inside and outside , might be an idea to drop Roughead back and push Roberts forward

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Good luck Toby mac.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

let's go boys

[Eastdog]

Will we win?

[ratsmac]

We don't look like scoring atm

[Eastdog]

We don't look like scoring atm

True but our defence is working hard.

[bulldogtragic]

That's it. The game is so dour right now 3+ goals looks too far.

[The Underdog]

Will we win?

Can't see it now. Don't look like scoring

[jeemak]

I just cannot believe we left a hole for Carlisle to kick into then.

Simple, unthinking and costly football.

If Tony Shaw doesn't shut up about Will Minson following instructions I'll go spare.

[LostDoggy]

The German puts one through and it will be tough to score 4 goals to get in front but I think we are bit fitter than they are

[Twodogs]

Schultz is cool just to jump into defender's backs. No free kick or anything?

[Twodogs]

What was Dale supposed to do then?

[Lukewarm Beveridge]

I have hardly ever seen umpiring this horrendous.. 2 free kicks in about 2 quarters..

[Twodogs]

The German puts one through and it will be tough to score 4 goals to get in front but I think we are bit fitter than they are


They've got 21 players on the field though. It's hard to overcome those sorts of odds.

[LostDoggy]

5 goals in 10min and stop them scoring might be just beyond us now

[HOSE B ROMERO]

game set and

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Boy we've still got a lot to learn. We are just so wasteful when we go forward.

[jeemak]

We've only had one less free kick.

[Twodogs]

schultz was about a metre over the line when he took that 'screamer'

[G-Mo77]

Really disappointing 2nd half. Any chance we have at scoring we fire in rubbish forward 50 entries. Awful spectacle of a game as well. Thought it was 2014 while dozing off.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

We've also got a lot of match fitness to get into our guys. We just run out of gas every game.

[AndrewP6]

Really disappointing 4th quarter. Just haven't offered anything.

[Lukewarm Beveridge]

4 goals in 3 quarters is inexcusable..

[ratsmac]

Too many passengers won't win games of football.

[Eastdog]

Can't believe it's nearly 40 points after only being down by only 10.

[Happy Days]

Supremely young side in; not surprised we ran out of gas.

We just aren't smart enough going into the forward 50. We're too willing to look to create stoppages (because we admittedly score a lot from them) rather than try to hit targets. It creates too much opportunity for opposition spares to take bulk marks - think Rance, McGovern, Johnson, the entire Melbourne defence and now Westhoff starring against us.

[GVGjr]

Disappointing last 10 minutes. Just needed to kick a couple in a row to gain some momentum.

[The Underdog]

This'll be a 50 point loss at this rate

[The Underdog]

Disappointing last 10 minutes. Just needed to kick a couple in a row to gain some momentum.

Or even 1 in a row

[ratsmac]

Well this is just shite now

[Twodogs]

Port aren't going to win many more games playing like that. We were ordinary, they were lucky.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

lets get more players behind the ball and stop a further blowout

[jeemak]

Not fit enough to get through four quarters, and need more preseasons.

Preoccupied with inside footy and getting caught out on the outside too often.

[G-Mo77]

This'll be a 50 point loss at this rate

Deserve it. I'd rather go back to the drawing board for next game instead of thinking we almost did enough and serve this up again. I thought the Melbourne game was our worst performance of the season, this one's pretty close.

[Rance Fan]

Cant just bomb it forward and think that will do. Skills and composure killed us tonight

[ReLoad]

We really missed Bont and Picken :(

[AndrewP6]

Deserve it. I'd rather go back to the drawing board for next game instead of thinking we almost did enough and serve this up again. I thought the Melbourne game was our worst performance of the season, this one's pretty close.

The Melbourne game was terrible from the outset, we've been competitive for three quarters tonight.

[Remi Moses]

Deserve it. I'd rather go back to the drawing board for next game instead of thinking we almost did enough and serve this up again. I thought the Melbourne game was our worst performance of the season, this one's pretty close.

I think the dee game was worse in regards to the opposition .
Disappointing fade out, and the game looked for a while like it would break out

[ratsmac]

Tony Shaw is an absolute imbecile!

[Remi Moses]

The bye has come at a good time

[GVGjr]

Tony Shaw is an absolute imbecile!

In my opinion the worst of all the commentators.

[G-Mo77]

The Melbourne game was terrible from the outset, we've been competitive for three quarters tonight.

We've hardly looked like scoring in the 2nd half. Scoreboard we've been competitive for 3 quarters but you can't win if you can't score. The opposition is better this time around still this was a really poor display

[ratsmac]

Port were much better than us but the umps were atrocious. How many times they we caught with the ball after taking on the tackle and a non decision was a joke.

[The Underdog]

Cant just bomb it forward and think that will do. Skills and composure killed us tonight

Shame we don't have a tall key forward to compete for those high balls.

[G-Mo77]

Shame we don't have a tall key forward to compete for those high balls.

Ouch. ☺

[always right]

Deserve it. I'd rather go back to the drawing board for next game instead of thinking we almost did enough and serve this up again. I thought the Melbourne game was our worst performance of the season, this one's pretty close.

With all due respect, that's just garbage. Couldn't fault the effort tonight but we really struggled to find a free man.

[Bulldog4life]

A very young inexperienced side 5 wins 5 losses at half way mark of season Considering few of us were not expecting too much this year this is not too bad Overall I have been happy with the year so far, Now for a rest and wins against Brisbane, Saints and Carlton:)

[Before I Die]

Tony Shaw is an absolute imbecile!

How does he have a job? He has no player knowledge and provides no game insight. He just makes up rubbish or repeats stuff Brereton has said earlier. Which is usually also rubbish.

[The Underdog]

Ouch. ☺

More of a dig at subbing him off. What's the old saying, the big guys don't get smaller.

[always right]

More of a dig at subbing him off. What's the old saying, the big guys don't get smaller.

Or quicker

[G-Mo77]

More of a dig at subbing him off. What's the old saying, the big guys don't get smaller.

Yeah I know what you meant.

[Rance Fan]

Our skills kicking it into the forwards was ordinary

[Before I Die]

With all due respect, that's just garbage. Couldn't fault the effort tonight but we really struggled to find a free man.

I agree. We also need to develop our outside game. Boys like Bale, Webb and McLean will be invaluable when they build some strength. All look highly skilled.

[ratsmac]

How does he have a job? He has no player knowledge and provides no game insight. He just makes up rubbish or repeats stuff Brereton has said earlier. Which is usually also rubbish.

Exactly! He gets the players name wrong most of the time, and speaks fact-less dribble. He tries to say something intelligent which is impossible coming out of his mouth.

[bulldogtragic]

I agree. We also need to develop our outside game. Boys like Bale, Webb and McLean will be invaluable when they build some strength. All look highly skilled.

Yep, skinniest team ever. Bob & Grant look massive next to BMW.

[The Underdog]

I agree. We also need to develop our outside game. Boys like Bale, Webb and McLean will be invaluable when they build some strength. All look highly skilled.

Ironically picking all 3 of them may have contributed to the loss

[G-Mo77]

Ironically picking all 3 of them may have contributed to the loss

Especially when we seemed to force an inside game.

[Webby]

A very young inexperienced side 5 wins 5 losses at half way mark of season Considering few of us were not expecting too much this year this is not too bad Overall I have been happy with the year so far, Now for a rest and wins against Brisbane, Saints and Carlton:)

That's right.. And don't we need the rest, too!? Boyd's looking tired (remember he's 19!), I think Bont was carrying an issue for the past three weeks, Jong also looks particularly tired - which has affected his confidence. His disposal's also dropped off since he broke his hand.

I get the feeling with Bont that they let him carry a niggle with a plan to pair up a week off with the bye - thus giving him the fortnight he needs.

A young side with no Libba to share the inside load: 5 and 5 at around 100% points is very good. We've also gone deep into games with Port & Freo, whilst we've knocked off top 8 teams like Adelaide, West Coast, GWS, Richmond & Sydney.

Unlike Melbourne, we haven't managed the Fixture List by resting players for games against the big boys, then targeting the 'beatable' opponents. We're developing a game plan to beat the big boys - not dodge them.

This is a development year, so 5 & 5 at the break is definitely a pass mark.

[bornadog]

I didn't see the game as I am away for the weekend, but followed the game on the AFL app, and saw bits and pieces of a live stream of the last quarter:(

We were so inexperienced against a team like Port and just couldn't kick goals in the second half. Disappointed with the blow out in the last quarter which made Port look better than they were for most of the game.

[G-Mo77]

That's right.. And don't we need the rest, too!? Boyd's looking tired (remember he's 19!), I think Bont was carrying an issue for the past three weeks, Jong also looks particularly tired - which has affected his confidence. His disposal's also dropped off since he broke his hand.

I get the feeling with Bont that they let him carry a niggle with a plan to pair up a week off with the bye - thus giving him the fortnight he needs.

A young side with no Libba to share the inside load: 5 and 5 at around 100% points is very good. We've also gone deep into games with Port & Freo, whilst we've knocked off top 8 teams like Adelaide, West Coast, GWS, Richmond & Sydney.

Unlike Melbourne, we haven't managed the Fixture List by resting players for games against the big boys, then targeting the 'beatable' opponents. We're developing a game plan to beat the big boys - not dodge them.

This is a development year, so 5 & 5 at the break is definitely a pass mark.

Yep big picture we're tracking along nicely. I had has winning 5 for the season if we were lucky so they've well and truely gone above my expectations. . Still it was disappointing to fall into the mold of previous seasons. The bye will be a blessing and hopefully we hit Brisbane at full strength.

[kruder]

Deserve it. I'd rather go back to the drawing board for next game instead of thinking we almost did enough and serve this up again. I thought the Melbourne game was our worst performance of the season, this one's pretty close.

Wow harsh indeed!Are you dissapointed with the season so far? Where did you think we would be at the start of the season?

We are a bloody young side, was always going to struggle in the midfield tonight and had to play forwards in there which really killed our structure. I think we were pretty good without the football again and we continue to be on the right track. We have improved out of sight, we would have gone down by 100 points tonight if it was the 2014 version.

[G-Mo77]

Wow harsh indeed!Are you dissapointed with the season so far? Where did you think we would be at the start of the season?

We are a bloody young side, was always going to struggle in the midfield tonight and had to play forwards in there which really killed our structure. I think we were pretty good without the football again and we continue to be on the right track. We have improved out of sight, we would have gone down by 100 points tonight if it was the 2014 version.

Read the post directly above. ☺

[Eastdog]

Happy with our season so far overall.

Tonight's match i would say great that we kept with them on there home turf for 3 quarters but disappointing they way it finished. Should have been right in it at the end with a chance to win. Liked Macrae's game tonight, Dahl was very good, Murph was good as usual and really impressed with Hamling. Dicko and Hrovat were decent. We just still struggle to get marks inside 50. We certainly are capable of get between 15-20 goals in a match like last week and against the Crows.

[Eastdog]

How was your night at the Harts Hotel F'scary? Dissapointed I would imagine like all of us.

[chef]

I thought it was a pretty brave effort from our 'pups'. Couldn't quite go with them for the whole game, but we're on the right track. Proud of the effort.

Huge next 3 games coming up that should set us up for a run at finals.

[azabob]

How did Minson go?

[SlimPickens]

How did Minson go?

Solid when rucking, ordinary when forward. Would have liked him to half more contests and help keep the ball in our forward 50. He just doesn't provide a marking option in the forward 50 and once the ball hits the ground he is cactus.

[bornadog]

Solid when rucking, ordinary when forward. Would have liked him to half more contests and help keep the ball in our forward 50. He just doesn't provide a marking option in the forward 50 and once the ball hits the ground he is cactus.
Has always been the same

[Bulldog4life]

I thought it was a pretty brave effort from our 'pups'. Couldn't quite go with them for the whole game, but we're on the right track. Proud of the effort.

Huge next 3 games coming up that should set us up for a run at finals.

Actually Chef it is a huge 4 games. We play Brisbane St.Kilda Carlton and Gold Coast.

[F'scary]

How was your night at the Harts Hotel F'scary? Dissapointed I would imagine like all of us.

There were quite a number of Dogs supporters but the last quarter was the real dampener.

However, the pub had a really excellent 50's style rock and roll band playing called the Groove Tones. Sax, double bass, drums, electric piano and guitar. Very nice, indeed. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, songs like Tequila and Americana. Between the Groove Tones and the footy there was a big turn out at the pub, very laid back, friendly atmosphere and a mixture of ages. Good to see.

And the sax player of the Groove Tones is a serious Bulldogs supporter. In between songs he was calling out to the bar to get the scores!

[Bulldog4life]

Solid when rucking, ordinary when forward. Would have liked him to half more contests and help keep the ball in our forward 50. He just doesn't provide a marking option in the forward 50 and once the ball hits the ground he is cactus.

Yes currently where Tommy Boyd is in his playing career and Roughy and Minson playing ruck we seem very slow in the forward line.Maybe one big guy too many?

[chef]

Actually Chef it is a huge 4 games. We play Brisbane St.Kilda Carlton and Gold Coast.

True.

huge month of games.

[Webby]

There were quite a number of Dogs supporters but the last quarter was the real dampener.

However, the pub had a really excellent 50's style rock and roll band playing called the Groove Tones. Sax, double bass, drums, electric piano and guitar. Very nice, indeed. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, songs like Tequila and Americana. Between the Groove Tones and the footy there was a big turn out at the pub, very laid back, friendly atmosphere and a mixture of ages. Good to see.

And the sax player of the Groove Tones is a serious Bulldogs supporter. In between songs he was calling out to the bar to get the scores!

Love the Vic. Feels like a country pub on Saturday nights. The old guitarist from Daddy Cool often plays there. The half Parma is also superb. It's the last really old school Dogs pub left. I hope Dogs fans get around it. When Dogs are playing interstate, it's the go to venue of choice.

I had sick kids last night, so gave it a miss. Otherwise I'd have been there. I took some friends there the night after we played Box Hill. They thought it was "very different, quaint, old school, homely" etc. it's the last of a dying breed. I hope it hangs on, because developers tend to circle prime corner blocks like that one.

[Twodogs]

There were quite a number of Dogs supporters but the last quarter was the real dampener.

However, the pub had a really excellent 50's style rock and roll band playing called the Groove Tones. Sax, double bass, drums, electric piano and guitar. Very nice, indeed. Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, songs like Tequila and Americana. Between the Groove Tones and the footy there was a big turn out at the pub, very laid back, friendly atmosphere and a mixture of ages. Good to see.

And the sax player of the Groove Tones is a serious Bulldogs supporter. In between songs he was calling out to the bar to get the scores!


The band wasn't bad. Kick ass version of Tequila, they nailed it.

[Eastdog]

Good to hear you had a good night there F'scary. Only downer was we didn't win.

[F'scary]

The band wasn't bad. Kick ass version of Tequila, they nailed it.

the sax made it.

[F'scary]

Love the Vic. Feels like a country pub on Saturday nights. The old guitarist from Daddy Cool often plays there. The half Parma is also superb. It's the last really old school Dogs pub left. I hope Dogs fans get around it. When Dogs are playing interstate, it's the go to venue of choice.

I had sick kids last night, so gave it a miss. Otherwise I'd have been there. I took some friends there the night after we played Box Hill. They thought it was "very different, quaint, old school, homely" etc. it's the last of a dying breed. I hope it hangs on, because developers tend to circle prime corner blocks like that one.

Hi Webby, the Council has placed some kind of heritage overlay on the pub but I don't how effective that is in terms of it continuing to operate as a pub in the longer term. You might be right - it could be the last. Let's see... The Buckingham has gone (turned into apartments), is the Mona Castle still operating? The Royal and the Barkly - gone. The Plough & the Station - truly great bistro venues but not quite pubs anymore. The House of Fools (Belgravia Hotel) - gone.

On a positive note, the apartment market is saturated in Footscray at the moment. I think there is little incentive currently to redevelop more sites.

[josie]

If we had of kicked straighter after dominating first half of first quarter game could have been a lot closer. Did well up until 10 mins or so into last quarter. Young side - understandable. Not too upset. Missed Picken particularly. Bonti has been off for a few weeks - good for him to recharge the batteries.

Got to improve delivery into forward line and build confidence to lead to make space to mark ball - Pt Adelaide a good side to learn that from so hopefully was a good lesson for the young ones. This will all come with time. I think we have the right coach so we must be patient.

My only thought was perhaps should have popped Fletcher into forward line in last half, but then again we did not have it in forward line enough to kick a winning score anyway in last half.

Enjoyed my first interstate game even though it was a loss. Pity about the two yobbo cheer squad chaps who swore a bit & said disparaging remarks about opposition players instead solely focusing on supporting Dogs.

Note to a few other supporter(s) in cheer squad who turned on their own players en masse in last quarter with loud remarks players could possibly hear - grow up and be a better cheer squad member please.

Go Dogs !!

[jeemak]

I think a move of Fletcher forward, Minson to full time ruck and Roughead back might have at least given us a semi-viable forward option once Boyd went off the ground.

I also agree that we missed Picken terribly last night, such has his excellent form been in these past four or five rounds.

[Twodogs]

Hi Webby, the Council has placed some kind of heritage overlay on the pub but I don't how effective that is in terms of it continuing to operate as a pub in the longer term. You might be right - it could be the last. Let's see... The Buckingham has gone (turned into apartments), is the Mona Castle still operating? The Royal and the Barkly - gone. The Plough & the Station - truly great bistro venues but not quite pubs anymore. The House of Fools (Belgravia Hotel) - gone.

On a positive note, the apartment market is saturated in Footscray at the moment. I think there is little incentive currently to redevelop more sites.

The Mona Castle is still there but caters to a more upmarket fine dining crowd these days and not so much the wharfies and bikies that frequented the place back in the '80s. The Exchange is still operating but has more of a wine bar feel to it these days.

In many ways Footscray's best pub ATM is The Rev(erence) with a very vibrant band scene. They have international and interstate bands and a couple of months ago hosted the reunion gig for the Victims a legendary Perth punk band fronted by Dave Faulkner who went on to form Hoodoo Gurus. A lot of people I know idolised the Victims and had been waiting their whole life to see them play live.


But for watching footy, it's the Vic. Although I watched the Swans game at Barkers at VU Whitten oval with 500 people I ended up hugging at least once.

[1eyedog]

Hi Webby, the Council has placed some kind of heritage overlay on the pub but I don't how effective that is in terms of it continuing to operate as a pub in the longer term. You might be right - it could be the last. Let's see... The Buckingham has gone (turned into apartments), is the Mona Castle still operating? The Royal and the Barkly - gone. The Plough & the Station - truly great bistro venues but not quite pubs anymore. The House of Fools (Belgravia Hotel) - gone.

On a positive note, the apartment market is saturated in Footscray at the moment. I think there is little incentive currently to redevelop more sites.

Has some relevance, it depends on what if anything is heritage listed inside the pub. This has implications for what a new tenant / owner can / can't do. As a buyer you'd be wary buying the pub and completely altering the inside of it to suit a retail premises if you have to jump through a million legislative hoops to do so. That being said I would assume the overlay covers the outside building / architecture or the general facade. This means you can't alter the structure itself but you can deck it out on the inside anyway you choose.

[Twodogs]

Has some relevance, it depends on what if anything is heritage listed inside the pub. This has implications for what a new tenant / owner can / can't do. As a buyer you'd be wary buying the pub and completely altering the inside of it to suit a retail premises if you have to jump through a million legislative hoops to do so. That being said I would assume the overlay covers the outside building / architecture or the general facade. This means you can't alter the structure itself but you can deck it out on the inside anyway you choose.


That's pretty much how they destroyed the Buckingham. Outside it still looks much the same but it's been turned to apartments (we really need more apartments in Footscray:rolleyes:) that nobody wants to live in.

[F'scary]

That's pretty much how they destroyed the Buckingham. Outside it still looks much the same but it's been turned to apartments (we really need more apartments in Footscray:rolleyes:) that nobody wants to live in.

They can develop the Joseph's road precinct. Leave the (remaining) pubs alone!

[1eyedog]

That's pretty much how they destroyed the Buckingham. Outside it still looks much the same but it's been turned to apartments (we really need more apartments in Footscray:rolleyes:) that nobody wants to live in.

Same as the old theatre on Barkly. Pretty sure Sir Grant had a hand in that.

[Twodogs]

Same as the old theatre on Barkly. Pretty sure Sir Grant had a hand in that.


He was involved at some stage. It kind of went up in fits and spurts.

[SonofScray]

That's pretty much how they destroyed the Buckingham. Outside it still looks much the same but it's been turned to apartments (we really need more apartments in Footscray:rolleyes:) that nobody wants to live in.

I really miss the Buck :( Loved going there after work and often after footy training / games. It was like going to a country pub in a lot of ways, but quintessentially Footscray.