Round 12 Discussion

[Eastdog]

Round 12 Fixture

Date Fixture Venue AEST

Jun 18 Adelaide vs Hawthorn Adelaide Oval 7.50pm

Jun 19 Richmond vs West Coast MCG 7.50pm

Jun 20 Carlton vs Port Adelaide MCG 1.40pm

Jun 20 GWS Giants vs North Melbourne Spotless Stadium 4.35pm

Jun 20 Western Bulldogs vs Brisbane Etihad Stadium 7.20pm

Jun 21 Geelong vs Melbourne Simonds Stadium 3.20pm

Byes: Collingwood , Essendon, Fremantle, Gold Coast, St Kilda, Sydney

[boydogs]

Some good games this round, hopefully ours has the biggest margin :)

[Eastdog]

Some good games this round, hopefully ours has the biggest margin :)

Hope so too :) but won't be going in too confident as we all know now.

[Twodogs]

Some good games this round, hopefully ours has the biggest margin :)


And we win. I just want to point that out because destiny has a habit of laughing at us about this stuff.

[comrade]

When did the Hawks start wearing Power Rangers uniforms? Yuck.

[bulldogtragic]

When did the Hawks start wearing Power Rangers uniforms? Yuck.

Why are the crows not wearing their normal jumper? And Yep, average clash strip!!

[The Underdog]

And we win. I just want to point that out because destiny has a habit of laughing at us about this stuff.

See the game against the Lions last season. That effort was an abomination.

[The Underdog]

Why are the crows not wearing their normal jumper? And Yep, average clash strip!!


It's a jumper commemorating their 25th anniversary in the league.
As for Hawthorn, it may be the only jumper worse than Essendon's clash jumper.
Pretty entertaining game. Crows hanging in. Hawthorn's ball use is something to enjoy.

[bulldogtragic]

I'm confused by the fox commentary that these half a dozen punches to the guts are just fines. This is insane....

Either punching opposition players in the guts is legal, or worth weeks. Either accept and endorse this stuff, or suspend players. Why create a grey area that racks up fine revenue? This UPT, aka unsocialable players tax (aka fines) is insane. If the AFL doesn't want to see punching players, then fining blokes $1,000 who may earn $500,000 out of footy alone will not do anything. It's just a violence tax by creating a grey area.

I would prefer the AFL come out and say it's a part of the game, or its not part of the game and take action that will stop it.

[Twodogs]

See the game against the Lions last season. That effort was an abomination.


It was as awful as the game the year before in round one was wonderful.

[Remi Moses]

The new tribunal system is a complete joke .
It's been just so soft on the players .
Hawthorn are the masters of the snipe just quietly

[bornadog]

I really like Betts, so dangerous around goals.

[bornadog]

Hawthorn are the masters of the snipe just quietly
Especially Mitchell

[comrade]

Hawks skills just hold up so well under pressure. Amazing to watch them hit target after target, or kick a clutch goal under pressure.

That back line is a bit vulnerable though at times. Fantastic at peeling off and intercepting, but can be scored against when made accountable.

[Twodogs]

Hawks skills just hold up so well under pressure. Amazing to watch them hit target after target, or kick a clutch goal under pressure.

That back line is a bit vulnerable though at times. Fantastic at peeling off and intercepting, but can be scored against when made accountable.

We've got just the guys to exploit that. Something has to work against them. Eventually.

[bornadog]

Hawks skills just hold up so well under pressure. Amazing to watch them hit target after target, or kick a clutch goal under pressure.

That back line is a bit vulnerable though at times. Fantastic at peeling off and intercepting, but can be scored against when made accountable.

To me Lake is looking like an old man, even though he still has the ability to judge the play and the ball in the air.

[comrade]

To me Lake is looking like an old man, even though he still has the ability to judge the play and the ball in the air.

Definitely winding down, but still deadly when given space to roam and cut off entries.

Who'd have thought Roughead and Gunston would stink it up and they still kick 17 goals. Fair spread of talent, though Mitchell/Hodge/Lewis/Burgoyne continue to have a massive impact. Once that quartet fades, they will come back to the pack ala Geelong, but FA will see them competitive year in, year out now.

[Remi Moses]

Hawthorn are the one team you don't want kick the ball to and Adelaide did just that.
They played in spurts and still won comfortably .

[Remi Moses]

How on earth in the modern game does one team have consecutive 6 day breaks and the other a fortnight break?
Rediculous contrived money making crap excuse of a fixture

[G-Mo77]

Tigers of old tonight.

[Webby]

Getting train home from city tonight can't help but offer Tigers fans consolstion.... Don't feel bad, guys, i remember from rounds 1 & 2 that the Eagles pushed us a tad harder than you did... chins up, you'll be right...��

[Webby]

Lot of Tigers fans on Sunbury line tonight ... can't help but acknowledge that even on a line through our heartland that they've got a far bigger fan base than us.... despite the fact that we've outperformed them for 30 years..

[Remi Moses]

Lot of Tigers fans on Sunbury line tonight ... can't help but acknowledge that even on a line through our heartland that they've got a far bigger fan base than us.... despite the fact that we've outperformed them for 30 years..

The difference is they've had that golden period of the 60's and 70's and the kids have inherited their parents team.

[Twodogs]

The difference is they've had that golden period of the 60's and 70's and the kids have inherited their parents team.


Suckers!

[Remi Moses]

Superb win from west coast, which has been underestimated by the Victorian public.
The result flattered Richmond, and they're a bottom of the eight team.
Nic Nat completely dominated , and their mids were given silver service all night.
West Coast midfield is now not so reliant on Priddis and bats deeper.

[whythelongface]

What's the story with Port at the moment? They are really struggling. Poor decision making in general and are a shadow of their last two years.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

What's the story with Port at the moment? They are really struggling. Poor decision making in general and are a shadow of their last two years.

Hard to know but it's strange.

I sense there's something internal going on. Seem to have lost their spirit and passion, Cornes retiring/getting pushed was odd timing and quite a few fans are dirty on Hinkley and his coaching.

Huge fall from grace. Perhaps expectations were set too high and it's flattened them rather than spurred them. They haven't had too many injuries outside of Polec. Ryder missed a few and now White, but the bulk of their list has played enough for them to be much better placed.

[whythelongface]

Hard to know but it's strange.

I sense there's something internal going on. Seem to have lost their spirit and passion, Cornes retiring/getting pushed was odd timing and quite a few fans are dirty on Hinkley and his coaching.

Huge fall from grace. Perhaps expectations were set too high and it's flattened them rather than spurred them. They haven't had too many injuries outside of Polec. Ryder missed a few and now White, but the bulk of their list has played enough for them to be much better placed.

That is my initial thinking but wondering why when Hinkley has been so highly regarded. That is assuming it has anything to do with this. Who knows.

Maybe it is the expectation to deliver placed on such a young side. They were touted as being premiers by some, especially the local media. For a young team to have this type of pressure placed upon them can really play on their minds. It is a huge barrier for them to overcome. There is no doubt they have the ability.

[bornadog]

Maybe Port's game plan is now exposed and teams are counteracting it with their own tactics. Port needs to get the passion back and come up with some new tricks.

[ledge]

Maybe Port's game plan is now exposed and teams are counteracting it with their own tactics. Port needs to get the passion back and come up with some new tricks.

Beat us by 8 goals last game are they really that bad ?

[Sedat]

Fantastic round of results for us from a finals perspective, especially is Melbourne can hold on. Percentage booster for us and Port and Geelong losing against bottom 4 teams, and Richmond losing at home as favourite.

[GVGjr]

Melbourne giving Geelong a headache. Hard to see them losing from here.

[The Underdog]

Melbourne giving Geelong a headache. Hard to see them losing from here.

It's a great result for us. Beat St Kilda next week and we have a game and percentage on Geelong and North and we're above GWS on percentage

[Twodogs]

Melbourne bearing Geelong today almost makes up the damage we took when they beat us.

[Remi Moses]

Great performance by Melbourne ( kudos to Roos ) Geelong isn't the fortress it once was.
Bernie Vince was sensational as was Jones .
How good is young Brayshaw? Melbourne getting that pick for Frawley was criminal

[Remi Moses]

It's a great result for us. Beat St Kilda next week and we have a game and percentage on Geelong and North and we're above GWS on percentage

The way the season's going you couldn't predict anything with confidence .
Even Caaaaaarlton are improving

[Greystache]

The way the season's going you couldn't predict anything with confidence .
Even Caaaaaarlton are improving

It's really only Essendon and Gold Coast that aren't showing any hints of improvement. Most other teams are looking more competitive than than were at the start of the season, you can't take anyone lightly.

[Mantis]

It's really only Essendon and Gold Coast that aren't showing any hints of improvement. Most other teams are looking more competitive than than were at the start of the season, you can't take anyone lightly.

Coming from a long way back, but Gold Coast had a decent crack against Freo last time around and think when they get a few back they will push most teams, especially up north.

[Greystache]

Coming from a long way back, but Gold Coast had a decent crack against Freo last time around and think when they get a few back they will push most teams, especially up north.

The Freo game was more competitive but the conditions helped make it so. Their previous 4 matches they lost by an average of 66 points. They'll get some players back but I don't see the team improving greatly based on what they're showing.

Only Essendon seem to have less idea of what they're trying to achieve on game day at the moment, although Essendon has the potential to get their act together a bit quicker looking at their team.

[Sedat]

Only Essendon seem to have less idea of what they're trying to achieve on game day at the moment, although Essendon has the potential to get their act together a bit quicker looking at their team.
Long may it continue with Tird at the helm. Come on Paul Little, surely it's time for another contract extension ;)

[Greystache]

Long may it continue with Tird at the helm. Come on Paul Little, surely it's time for another contract extension ;)

Ironically the entire football community AND half of Essendon supporters want to see this. It's only the rational Essendon supporter that gets screwed. The utilitarian approach says give him another 3 years :D

[LostDoggy]

Ironically the entire football community AND half of Essendon supporters want to see this. It's only the rational Essendon supporter that gets screwed. The utilitarian approach says give him another 3 years :D

I do feel sorry for both of them.