Round 19 Discussion

[Eastdog]

Round 19 Fixture

Date Fixture Venue AEST

Aug 7 Adelaide vs Richmond Adelaide Oval 7.50pm

Aug 8 Collingwood vs Carlton MCG 1.45pm

Aug 8 Western Bulldogs vs Port Adelaide Etihad Stadium 2.10pm

Aug 8 Brisbane vs Gold Coast The Gabba 4.35pm

Aug 8 West Coast vs Hawthorn Domain Stadium 7.40pm

Aug 8 Geelong vs Sydney Simonds Stadium 7.20pm

Aug 9 Melbourne vs North Melbourne MCG 1.10pm

Aug 9 GWS Giants vs Essendon Spotless Stadium 3.20pm

Aug 9 St Kilda vs Fremantle Etihad Stadium

[Twodogs]

Deledio out for Rixhmond tonight. They just don't win without him so we can put a game between us and them tomorrow.

[LostDoggy]

Adelaide Richmond frustrating match. Adelaide dominant (I50 25-11) but not converting.

[1eyedog]

I'd love Tex

[whythelongface]

26 points up at 3/4 time. Go the Crows.

[bulldogtragic]

Should've been a 100 point pantsing, but they took 4% off them. So we've got that going us, which is nice.

[Throughandthrough]

But what an awful match to watch. Bring back Friday night Carlton

[Remi Moses]

Well well well talk about Richmond being a flag contender is just nonsense .
That was an 100 pt loss tonight, and they just don't score enough .
They're a bottom of the eight side, that unfortunately has to many media and fans who get well ahead of themselves .

[LostDoggy]

Harsh to call Richmond a bottom 8 side. They were horrible last night, but they have beaten Hawthorn, Sydney in Sydney and Freo in Perth this year.

[GVGjr]

Harsh to call Richmond a bottom 8 side. They were horrible last night, but they have beaten Hawthorn, Sydney in Sydney and Freo in Perth this year.

Exactly. The Tigers are a pretty good side. They could cause an upset in the finals.

[ReLoad]

Exactly. The Tigers are a pretty good side. They could cause an upset in the finals.

They are a more hardened battle unit than we are, in a final vs us, they would be comfortable favourites.

I wish our backline wasn't decimated this week, we so need the win.

[GVGjr]

They are a more hardened battle unit than we are, in a final vs us, they would be comfortable favourites.

I wish our backline wasn't decimated this week, we so need the win.

And it just needs to be a win. After the Tigers loss it's not like we need a 30 or 40 point result although it might help us if the Swans have a loss.

[azabob]

Remi is correct though Richmond struggle to score. If the 8 stays the same come the end of the round they will have the lowest points scored of any top 8 teams.

[GVGjr]

Remi is correct though Richmond struggle to score. If the 8 stays the same come the end of the round they will have the lowest points scored of any top 8 teams.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with that but the Tigers are certainly very capable of knocking over the teams currently in the top 4. They might be the best equipped of all other sides to do so.
I wouldn't mind us playing them in the finals but I'm not sure too many teams in the 4 would be licking their lips.

[boydogs]

Harsh to call Richmond a bottom 8 side. They were horrible last night, but they have beaten Hawthorn, Sydney in Sydney and Freo in Perth this year.

Bottom of the top 8, not bottom 8

[Mantis]

Harsh to call Richmond a bottom 8 side. They were horrible last night, but they have beaten Hawthorn, Sydney in Sydney and Freo in Perth this year.


Exactly. The Tigers are a pretty good side. They could cause an upset in the finals.

I think Remi was saying that Richmond are a bottom of the top 8 team .ie. 5th - 8th.. They just don't have the consistency of performance of a Top 4 team.

Losing Delideo was massive, they are now 2-11 without him in recent times.

[jeemak]

Bottom of the top 8, not bottom 8

An important distinction, and perfectly sums up where they are presently. Remi's statement was pretty close to the money for mine as they struggle to score, and so many in the media hype them up the first chance they get.

Last year they won in Perth and in Sydney, but completely capitulated in the first week of finals. The year prior they narrowly lost to Dockers in Perth then comfortably beat WCE a few weeks later, and also beat the Hawks. In the first week of the finals they accounted for themselves terribly and lost to a mediocre Carlton.

Until they put in a decent finals performance I'll be treating their prospects no differently than I have these past two years. I'm not saying they're incapable of taking another step forward, though I think people have dropped their strides a little too early when it comes to the Tigers.

[LostDoggy]

Cats coming back! Scores level in Q3.

[bulldogtragic]

Cmon cats!!!!

[azabob]

Cats in front!

[1eyedog]

Can't get my eye of that game atm!

[Drunken Bum]

LeCras looks a chance be out for 2 with a high hit too

everything's coming up Milhouse

[LostDoggy]

Me too. Cats dominant but should be converting more. Why can't they play more like us?
:)

[bulldogtragic]

Cmon catters!

[bulldogtragic]

Smash their percentage. Cmon.

[1eyedog]

Tomahawk doing the right thing by us

[bulldogtragic]

Live ladder has us with a 3.6% buffer.

[azabob]

Hawks coming back hard also.

[LostDoggy]

Cats home. We're 4th!!!

[bulldogtragic]

Top 4!!!!!!!!!!!

[comrade]

You ****ing beauty! Finish the job Cats.

[1eyedog]

Cats home we're in 4th spot :cool:

[LostDoggy]

WCE Haw is a fierce match to watch. Hawks laid 85 tackles in 3 qtrs.! Shiels 15!

Reckon they've softened the Eagles up and can get home.

[bulldogtragic]

4.7% buffer over Sydney now.

[Remi Moses]

Harsh to call Richmond a bottom 8 side. They were horrible last night, but they have beaten Hawthorn, Sydney in Sydney and Freo in Perth this year.

Bottom of the eight side

[azabob]

I am really enjoying the Hawks & west coast game. Hard, tight and skillful footy.

[bulldogtragic]

I am really enjoying the Hawks & west coast game. Hard, tight and skillful footy.

Ditto. Cracking game.

[1eyedog]

I am really enjoying the Hawks & west coast game. Hard, tight and skillful footy.
Yep was a good game. So, how to beat Hawthorn?

[azabob]

Yep was a good game. So, how to beat Hawthorn?

If anyone knows how it's Bevo.

[Remi Moses]

Sydney looked cooked for me .
They may still finish top 4, but they won't win it .
Geelong just refuse to die,but Sydney look slow down back .
Hawthorn and West Coast game looked a bottler

[Happy Days]

LeCras looks a chance be out for 2 with a high hit too

everything's coming up Milhouse

McGovern looked in bad shape too.

We're having a great run with opposition GUNS getting injured right before playing us. Look for Bernie Vince and Tom McDonald to collide Gillespie/Waugh style tomorrow.

[comrade]

McGovern looked in bad shape too.

We're having a great run with opposition GUNS getting injured right before playing us. Look for Bernie Vince and Tom McDonald to collide Gillespie/Waugh style tomorrow.

Was thinking the same thing. Cloke/Elliott, Selwood (didn't help!), Wines, Hurley. Anyone else recently?

[Ghost Dog]

Bottom of the eight side

North Melbourne are like that. They will jag a big win now and then, but get beaten by lesser lights.
Always been something suss about Richmond's list. Was almost 100% sure they would lose against Crows and they didn't disappoint.

[ledge]

Was thinking the same thing. Cloke/Elliott, Selwood (didn't help!), Wines, Hurley. Anyone else recently?

Difference is we are also missing gun players but keep winning!

[azabob]

Gee Cooney and Griffen both looking very average today.

Both Essendon and GWS looking very average.

[ledge]

Does Hird actually do anything on game day, I have never seen him on the phone or anything, just sitting there looking useless.

[bornadog]

Does Hird actually do anything on game day, I have never seen him on the phone or anything, just sitting there looking useless.

Bit like Macca use to do.

[ledge]

So he is warming the seat for next years coach?

[ledge]

At least Macca left us with a decent young list.

[GVGjr]

Bit like Macca use to do.

You've made this observation a few times. What exactly do you want coaches to do when the camera scans on them?

Is Bevo demonstrative enough for you?

[azabob]

Cooney might be suspended for a few weeks with high bump. Can anyone recall how long he signed for?

[Remi Moses]

Cooney might be suspended for a few weeks with high bump. Can anyone recall how long he signed for?

Two years . I think he'll pull the pin at years end

[comrade]

Two years . I think he'll pull the pin at years end

I don't.

From all reports, he loves the folding stuff. Why would he give up an extra couple'a hundred grand?

[Greystache]

You've made this observation a few times. What exactly do you want coaches to do when the camera scans on them?

Is Bevo demonstrative enough for you?

I assume scream incoherently and then abuse the players between breaks. My understanding is that's good match day coaching.

[LostDoggy]

Cooney had 4 shots on goal today for 4 out on the fulls. That's gotta be some kind of record (maybe the anti-dead eye dicko).

Maybe he's looking for someone to make the decision for him (and get paid out).

Either way, I'll remember him for when his body was right and he was a legitimate Brownlow quality player for us.

[bornadog]

You've made this observation a few times. What exactly do you want coaches to do when the camera scans on them?

Is Bevo demonstrative enough for you?


I assume scream incoherently and then abuse the players between breaks. My understanding is that's good match day coaching.


Does Hird actually do anything on game day, I have never seen him on the phone or anything, just sitting there looking useless.

Just observing what Ledge said about Hird and how Macca was the same. You are the ones reading more into it.

[LostDoggy]

Was thinking the same thing. Cloke/Elliott, Selwood (didn't help!), Wines, Hurley. Anyone else recently?

Their bones/muscles knew they were coming up against Picken, Redpath and Stringer and tossed in the towel.

[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[westdog54]

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Hang on, I thought Bonti was having second year blues?

[bornadog]

Hang on, I thought Bonti was having second year blues?

Yes he did, for a week.:D

[GVGjr]

So we play a team with an inform goal to goal line. Well lets see about that.

[Twodogs]

Hang on, I thought Bonti was having second year blues?

Only if you're a dill who knows nothing about football existing on a fast diminishing reputation and not even realising you've become irrelevant.


So we play a team with an inform goal to goal line. Well lets see about that.

Good pick up. We may be in for a bigger fight than we've planned for this week.

[Mantis]

So we play a team with an inform goal to goal line. Well lets see about that.

North kicked 19 goals last week, yet their oppositions CHB and FB were dominant.. Their selection in the team of the week is either BS or the rest of their defence and defensive structures were poor.

[Doc26]

So what they're saying is 6 of the best 18 players of the round came from that sub-standard Roos v Dees game last weekend :confused:

[Twodogs]

I'd say that most of the places in the team are on the back of stats. Who has the time to watch 9 games? They'd just look at the stat sheets and choose players with the best stats for their position.

[Mantis]

I'd say that most of the places in the team are on the back of stats. Who has the time to watch 9 games? They'd just look at the stat sheets and choose players with the best stats for their position.

Dunn's and MacDonald's stats were just average.. If what you are saying is correct Talia would've been selected.

[LostDoggy]

I think that team is selected by Champion Data, so its purely stats based. When a lot of players are selected from a particular game, it probably just reflects that it was a bruise free, circle work kinda game.

[Doc26]

I think that team is selected by Champion Data, so its purely stats based. When a lot of players are selected from a particular game, it probably just reflects that it was a bruise free, circle work kinda game.

It's up there with the NAB rising star award for credibility which previously was awarded based on who Kevin Sheehan thought was the most worthy award and I believe now extended to include the thoughts of such astute observers of the game in Ling, Richo, Frawley, DMcLachlan, Mark Evans, Darcy :confused: :rolleyes: