2016 Young Gun Update

[bulldogtragic]

2016 - Rising Star eligible players rankings for the entire AFL:

Caleb Daniel, picked 46 - (Toby McLean, picked 26)


Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Inside 50s
Ranked 8th among rising stars in Total Goal Assists
Ranked 1st (3rd) among rising stars in Total Kicks
Ranked 5th (9th) among rising stars in Total Handballs
Ranked 1st (5th) among rising stars in Total Disposals
Ranked 1st (3rd) among rising stars in Total Marks
Ranked 5th (3rd) among rising stars in Total Goals
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Tackles
Ranked (4th) among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
Ranked 2nd (5th) among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
Ranked 1st (3rd) among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
Ranked 6th (6th) among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
Ranked 1st (4th) among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
Ranked 2nd (5th) among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Clangers
Ranked 4th (9th) among rising stars in Total Clearances
Ranked (1st) among rising stars for Total Bounces
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Rebound 50s
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total One Percenters
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Time On Ground %
Ranked 9th among rising stars for 1 %'ers
Ranked 8th among rising stars in Marks Inside 50s Per Game
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Inside 50's Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goal Assists Per Game
Ranked 1st (4th) among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Handballs Per Game
Ranked 2nd (7th) among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
Ranked 1st (3rd) among rising stars in Marks Per Game
Ranked 7th (6th) among rising stars in Goals Per Game
Ranked 10th among rising stars for Goal Assists
Ranked 3rd (7th) among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
Ranked 1st (3rd) among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
Ranked 9th (9th) among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 2nd (7th) among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 3rd (6th) among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Clearances Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Time On Ground % Per Game


2016 Stats for entire AFL competition; Marcus Adams taken at pick 35:

Ranked 5th in Total Marks
Ranked 3rd in Total Contested Marks
Ranked 20th in Total One Percenters
Ranked 10th in Total Time On Ground %
Ranked 6th in Marks Per Game
Ranked 3rd in Contested Marks Per Game
Ranked 13th in Time On Ground %

Amazing middle order drafting by the club at 26, 35 & 46 for these guys. Add Collins, Dunkley, Webb, Dale & Cordy too at picks 25+, a question mark on Hamilton.

[hujsh]

I thought Adams wasn't eligible. Too old?

[bulldogtragic]

I added Adams in, but not for rising star rankings. Those are whole of competition rankings!

[ratsmac]

We have a very healthy list full of young talent no doubt.
Those stats quite impressive.

[bulldogtragic]

What's really surprising, beyond Adams staggering marking and contested marking, he's top 16% in the league for time on ground coming off one AFL preseason. He obviously came off a huge fitness base.

[bulldogtragic]

Updated Daniel's & Adam's rankings. Not around to Toby yet.

[bulldogtragic]

I guess these stats are why Caleb got the nomination this round!

[bulldogtragic]

Caleb Daniel to Round 8:

Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Inside 50s
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Kicks
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Disposals
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Marks
Ranked 10th among rising stars in Total Goals
Ranked 10th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
Ranked 8th among rising stars in Total Clangers
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Clearances

Ranked 8th among rising stars in Inside 50s Per Game
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Handballs Per Game
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
Ranked 1st among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Points Per Game
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Clearances Per Game
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Time On Ground % Per Game

[bulldogtragic]

Toby McLean to Round 8:

Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Inside 50s
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Kicks
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Handballs
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Disposals
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Marks
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Goals
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Marks Inside 50
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total One Percenters
Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Time On Ground %

Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
Ranked 6th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
Ranked 4th among rising stars in Marks Per Game
Ranked 8th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
Ranked 5th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
Ranked 8th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 9th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 10th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
Ranked 8th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Bounces Per Game

[bulldogtragic]

On AFL Fantasy rankings, we have the two highest performing rising star kids in the entire competition. As well as being the best and top 10 effective ball users, mainly by foot (1st and 2nd ranked for kicking per game).

McLean must be close to a nomination with these numbers. Both could be a sneaky chance for the title.

[comrade]

Pretty impressive numbers from McLean in particular, given he is playing a high half forward role. Can't wait to see where he can take his game after a few more pre-seasons. His smarts will surely be welcomed in the midfield eventually.

All hail, Dalrymple.

[bornadog]

McLean must be close to a nomination with these numbers. Both could be a sneaky chance for the title.

Surprised he hasn't been nominated to date. Very exciting young player.

[Mantis]

Number 1 for free kicks
Number 1 for free kick differential

Young Toby is copping a pisselling over on the main board on BF.

[bornadog]

Number 1 for free kicks
Number 1 for free kick differential

Young Toby is copping a pisselling over on the main board on BF.

They are jealous.

[Mantis]

They are jealous.

Umm... I don't think so.

Like me, they don't like the way he draws frees.

[SlimPickens]

Umm... I don't think so.

Like me, they don't like the way he draws frees.

There is a video floating around on Facebook showing all his free kicks. Although he clearly draws a lot of high contact, some of the starting points by the tacklers is bloody high to begin with.

Like you in not a big fan of how he draws free kicks, but it's pretty simple to stamp out....pay holding the ball or call play on (if the free isn't there of course).

[bornadog]

There is a video floating around on Facebook showing all his free kicks. Although he clearly draws a lot of high contact, some of the starting points by the tacklers is bloody high to begin with.

Like you in not a big fan of how he draws free kicks, but it's pretty simple to stamp out....pay holding the ball or call play on (if the free isn't there of course).

or tackle him properly

[bulldogtragic]

He should change his name to Selwood. Then after the media raise the issue once they won't raise it again. The media (and by extension football supporters on social media, water coolers, talkback radio etc) have been on McLean for a month or more. We have all heard it, dragging this 'story' out week after week against a kid is tiring. How about the media/social media focus on the fact he's top 10 in almost every stat among rising stars for the entire competition?

[KT31]

or tackle him properly

I'd bet if Libba tackled him 19 times, not one would be high.

[Sedat]

Like you in not a big fan of how he draws free kicks, but it's pretty simple to stamp out....pay holding the ball or call play on (if the free isn't there of course).
Not sure it is Slim. There is no rule called "play on if the tackle slips high". McLean also doesn't duck his head directly into the tackler, which would be "play on" according to the rules. So in black & white terms, all those frees are obviously too high.

McLean has perfected a legal tactic of raising his arm to make the tackles slip high and there is no current legislation to stop him from doing it - the onus is ultimately on the tackler to not get him high. The spirit of his tactics are in question but the black & white frees are not - I'm not a fan but it is undeniably legal and very effective.

[always right]

His ability to draw high tackles has been a source of amusement in our family. Until the AFL legislate against his technique....good luck to him. I am concerned however that he seems to go searching for high contact as his first option, which is a bad habit to get into. He needs to address this if he is going to have any reputation left in 12 months.

[Eastdog]

Big fan of Toby. He has been really good.

[ledge]

Great mark too .. He will take a blinder one day

[LostDoggy]

On many occasions he doesn't actually lower his height to cause the high tackle but rather just stays low never fully standing up like his opponents expect him to resulting in the free for high. You could argue he does it to lower his center of gravity to dodge and weave the tackle but happily takes the tackle as to receive the obvious free. It's actually a very clever technique (until he really cops one and injures himself) and I have no problem with it if it gives us the ball.

[comrade]

I couldn't care less what other supporters think of him. If they played for their team, they'd defend him to the hilt.

Yes, he draws contact. Tackle him around the hips if you want to avoid any chance of giving away a free, otherwise the risk is with the tackler.

[Mantis]

I couldn't care less what other supporters think of him.

Do you care what his own supporters think?


Yes, he draws contact. Tackle him around the hips if you want to avoid any chance of giving away a free, otherwise the risk is with the tackler.

Who tackles around the hips anymore?

You need to pin the arms to deny the ball getting free.

[comrade]

Do you care what his own supporters think?

Not really. He's utilising a legal technique that the opposition can't handle yet, it's winning him possession and helping us kick goals. If supporters don't like it because it doesn't look good, so what?



Who tackles around the hips anymore?

You need to pin the arms to deny the ball getting free.

Exactly, and Toby has the right to try and deny the tackler from winning the free kick. As long as he does it legally and effectively, I'm fine with it. Understand that you don't like it though. Each to their own on this one.

[LostDoggy]

Tacklers over the past few years have mastered the art of pinning the arms, this is how players are trained to tackle.

Why shouldn't players be able to combat that technique with a new technique of their own? If he's too good at making you go high, then tackle his hips and let him fire out an easy handball, simple!

[LostDoggy]

Maclean is a gun and a young bulldog, I will be defending him.

[1eyedog]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If Toby draws a too high free with 31.59 minutes on the clock to put us 5 points up in a Grand Final I won't be having a problem with it.

I just hope it's against (in order): Adelaide, Richmond, Geelong, Collingwood.