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bornadog
24-07-2016, 09:48 PM
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Understandably, the Western Bulldogs' rooms weren't a happy place after Saturday night's loss to St Kilda.


Not only had third on the ladder become sixth with a possibility of seventh by the end of the weekend, but the injury toll was shocking, Mitch Wallis being carted off to hospital with a broken leg, Jack Redpath pondering a knee reconstruction, Dale Morris nursing a hamstring.

Emotional, devastating, grieving, were all words getting a decent workout, fair enough in the immediate aftermath not only of a costly loss, but a sense that the football gods somehow never seem to be on the Bulldogs' side.


They certainly haven't been on the injury front this year, starting in round three, when skipper Bob Murphy went down with a season-ending knee injury, that last-minute stumble, literally also costing the Dogs what would have been a massive victory over Hawthorn.


They lost the in-form Jason Johannisen and key forward Tom Boyd the following week, Matt Suckling the week after that, then, in order, Marcus Adams, Koby Stevens and Luke Dahlhaus.


Throw in the late start to the season of important forward Tory Dickson, who has struggled all season since returning from an adductor injury, and there really hasn't been a single week this year that coach Luke Beveridge has had anything like a full, healthy list with which to work.


And that, perversely, is the very reason the Bulldogs, once the immediate emotional pain of Saturday night subsides, should still be upbeat about their prospects this September.


The other is Beveridge. Because the most important qualities the Bulldogs' second-season coach has brought to the club are depth and flexibility. And, once again, they put the Dogs in better position to cope with adversity than most of their top eight rivals.


Last year, that was reflected in a steady stream of players in and out of the best 22 with pressure kept on individual performance and those who came in always able to play a role. This season it's been as much about positional flexibility within that 22. And these are the sort of circumstances in which both traits come in handy.


Without wanting to downgrade the importance of the unfortunate Wallis, his loss doesn't make or break the Bulldogs' season. Particularly not when the return of Luke Dahlhaus, who was probably leading the best and fairest when he got injured in round 12, is imminent.


Throw in the recent returns of Stevens and Clay Smith, and the Bulldogs are arguably still in a better position in terms of quantity of potential midfield rotations than they have been for most of the season.


Redpath, similarly, isn't the be all and end all of the Bulldogs' forward set-up. Indeed, he wasn't even part of it until round seven this season, when the Dogs were averaging just as many goals per game as they are now.


Scoring has clearly been an Achilles heel for the Dogs this season, but you'd think less of one than last Saturday night when Jake Stringer returns this week.


And if Beveridge is still intent on a forward formation including Stringer plus two talls, another one in Tom Campbell is also due to return from a foot injury. So is another more than handy smaller forward in Toby McLean after a likely run in the VFL this weekend.


At the other end of the ground, Morris' hamstring might be more problematic than the other two. But then, this is a team which at one stage this season was simultaneously without Murphy, Johannisen, Suckling, Adams and Matthew Boyd, yet still was able to plug the holes, the system more important than the individual parts of it.


Joel Hamling isn't Morris, but has proven a capable defensive role player. While Adams, two or three weeks away with a foot injury, is another who will give the Dogs a sterner defensive outlook upon return.


The Bulldogs have used 36 players so far this season, the most of any top eight team. But unlike the six down-the-table teams which have used more, their performance hasn't suffered notably as a result of that lack of stability of personnel.


Another important step in the Bulldogs' learning curve under Beveridge has been greater resilience and maturity in an apparent crisis, be it the loss of personnel or a tight finish.


Even last year, the Bulldogs went 4-5 in games decided by 15 points or less, the one which still really burns an elimination final lost to Adelaide by seven points. So far this season, they're 5-2, four of their last five wins by a total of just 25 points.


Clearly their next two weeks, against Geelong at Simonds Stadium, and North Melbourne, are critical, after which the remaining three games are against Collingwood, Essendon and Fremantle.


Given the form of the latter pair, particularly, you'd have to give the Dogs every chance of at least three if not four more wins, and if so, more than likely a top four berth.


That's a scenario a lot rosier than the immediate doom and gloom that came in the aftermath of Saturday night's loss. Sure, it's another road hump. But the Bulldogs have become so practiced in dealing with them it's unlikely things are going to start falling apart now.

Mantis
25-07-2016, 09:56 AM
I agree with Rohan's assessment.. Hate losing players to serious injuries, but we have lots of inside mids and Wally has hardly been setting the world on fire and whilst big Jack's form was good earlier on in the season his last month had been poor (just 6 goals in 5 games).. Both in form make us a better team, but they aren't on the irreplacable list.

Look forward to Dahl, McLean, Adams & Stringer getting back into the team in the lead up to the finals.

The Pie Man
25-07-2016, 12:01 PM
I agree with Rohan's assessment.. Hate losing players to serious injuries, but we have lots of inside mids and Wally has hardly been setting the world on fire and whilst big Jack's form was good earlier on in the season his last month had been poor (just 6 goals in 5 games).. Both in form make us a better team, but they aren't on the irreplacable list.

Look forward to Dahl, McLean, Adams & Stringer getting back into the team in the lead up to the finals.

I share your concerns re: same paced midfield, though Wally has that work-rate that you'd rather not lose.

We should still be competitive, though without trying to sound too pragmatic about it (i.e not to ignore two young men facing a year out) it's losing the match/any chance of top 4 that still smarts today.

LostDoggy
25-07-2016, 12:07 PM
Looking at us as a young, developing list, the silver lining is greater opportunity for others. I can see a Josh Dunkley moving into Wallis spot in the rotations and only speeding up his development.

Throughandthrough
25-07-2016, 01:05 PM
Honeychurch for Wallis and Campbell for Redpath. Not losing much there!

bornadog
25-07-2016, 01:07 PM
Honeychurch for Wallis and Campbell for Redpath. Not losing much there!

Campbell is lucky to play again this season with foot problem

Throughandthrough
25-07-2016, 03:51 PM
Campbell is lucky to play again this season with foot problem

I was not aware of that. Minson!

bornadog
25-07-2016, 03:56 PM
I was not aware of that. Minson!

Rohan got that wrong in his article.

Mantis
25-07-2016, 04:12 PM
I share your concerns re: same paced midfield, though Wally has that work-rate that you'd rather not lose.

I don't want to kick a man whilst he is down, but Mitch isn't our best defensive runner.. Always seems pretty slow to transition back.


We should still be competitive, though without trying to sound too pragmatic about it (i.e not to ignore two young men facing a year out) it's losing the match/any chance of top 4 that still smarts today.

Yeah it's annoying, but we have only just been going and have escaped with wins in all our close ones since the Haw game.. If we don't bring our best or somewhere close to it we aren't good enough just yet to keep finding a way, especially with limited rotations and a few key men in the stands.

Flamethrower
25-07-2016, 06:26 PM
The physical toll is one thing. I am more concerned about the emotional toll on the young playing group, especially with what happened in the change rooms post game with Mitch.

boydogs
25-07-2016, 07:17 PM
The physical toll is one thing. I am more concerned about the emotional toll on the young playing group, especially with what happened in the change rooms post game with Mitch.

They're a strong group, look how they started 2015 after what happened at the end of 2014

Topdog
26-07-2016, 08:25 AM
Good assessment really and that's how I started looking at things on Sunday once the emotion of the injuries had subsided

Ghost Dog
26-07-2016, 09:09 AM
Honeychurch for Wallis and Campbell for Redpath. Not losing much there!

Mitch has been really good this season. His work around packs has been very good on his day. Jack may have only kicked several goals in the last few games but the entries have been atrocious. Especially Mitch, ( rate him above Koby, Jong ) I think these two are being undersold.

We rank 11th in the comp for goals. Losing Jack won't help.

1eyedog
26-07-2016, 09:32 AM
I agree with Rohan's assessment.. Hate losing players to serious injuries, but we have lots of inside mids and Wally has hardly been setting the world on fire and whilst big Jack's form was good earlier on in the season his last month had been poor (just 6 goals in 5 games).. Both in form make us a better team, but they aren't on the irreplacable list.

Look forward to Dahl, McLean, Adams & Stringer getting back into the team in the lead up to the finals.

You're harsh. Wallis was instrumental against the Suns and was one of two best players on the ground. His 3 goals were at critical times I thought and given our apparent dearth of forward attacking options his ability to hit the scoreboard may be missed. I thought he was just coming into some form.

Ghost Dog
26-07-2016, 10:01 AM
Riewoldt without a Glove is a disaster. We were always going to struggle without the glove.

Mantis
26-07-2016, 10:39 AM
You're harsh. Wallis was instrumental against the Suns and was one of two best players on the ground. His 3 goals were at critical times I thought and given our apparent dearth of forward attacking options his ability to hit the scoreboard may be missed. I thought he was just coming into some form.

Wallis was good against the Suns (who were severely depleted), but he has really struggled in 3 of our last 6 games... I expect more from a pretty experienced player and although he cashed in against the Suns I think his spot in the team going forward would've been questioned as we got players back.

1eyedog
26-07-2016, 11:08 AM
Wallis was good against the Suns (who were severely depleted), but he has really struggled in 3 of our last 6 games... I expect more from a pretty experienced player and although he cashed in against the Suns I think his spot in the team going forward would've been questioned as we got players back.

He was down in the Geelong and Richmond game but hey so were 90% of our players. He was excellent against the Swans (inside your last 6 games) and the Suns as noted as well as against Port (also inside your last 6 games). If you're assessing his place in the team over the past 6 matches based on his performances against Geelong and the Tigers then you should be looking at more than half the list.

I don't think he cashed in against the Suns, he played well, some did and some didn't but you need to be good enough when it's your turn and he was.

I don't think Mitch's spot in the team was ever questioned and wouldn't have been moving forward.

Mantis
26-07-2016, 11:32 AM
He was down in the Geelong and Richmond game but hey so were 90% of our players. He was excellent against the Swans (inside your last 6 games) and the Suns as noted as well as against Port (also inside your last 6 games). If you're assessing his place in the team over the past 6 matches based on his performances against Geelong and the Tigers then you should be looking at more than half the list.

I don't think he cashed in against the Suns, he played well, some did and some didn't but you need to be good enough when it's your turn and he was.

I don't think Mitch's spot in the team was ever questioned and wouldn't have been moving forward.

I feel the gap between his good and bad perfomances had been too great over the past 6 weeks... The bad have been terrible, which includes Saturday nights game when he was extremely poor.

And he isn't the lone wolf in having variable form... Not by any shot.

1eyedog
26-07-2016, 11:37 AM
I feel the gap between his good and bad perfomances had been too great over the past 6 weeks... The bad have been terrible, which includes Saturday nights game when he was extremely poor.

And he isn't the lone wolf in having variable form... Not by any shot.

Agreed he needs to close that gap. I realise you could question the performances of a heap of players over the past 6 weeks but you weren't you were discussing Wallis specifically in light of the injury.

Mofra
26-07-2016, 01:27 PM
Riewoldt without a Glove is a disaster. We were always going to struggle without the glove.
We really should consider Zaine then who is touted as his natural replacement. Has to get a game or two this year.

Eastdog
27-07-2016, 07:19 PM
They're a strong group, look how they started 2015 after what happened at the end of 2014

Like what you say boydogs. That was even worse and we got through then so I reckon after that experience will get through it again.

Bulldog4life
27-07-2016, 08:16 PM
I have a feeling we will win this week. Just a hunch.

Eastdog
27-07-2016, 08:43 PM
I have a feeling we will win this week. Just a hunch.

That isn't out of the question. Something special absolutely could be brewing. Geelong have been very vulnerable at times this year.

Eastdog
27-01-2017, 04:37 PM
And that prediction was right :)

Twodogs
28-01-2017, 10:52 PM
And that prediction was right :)


That we weren't done and dusted just yet?