Worst Grand Final Players Ever

[bulldogtragic]

With Rohan's stinker I thought it'd be interesting to see who the worst performed Grand Final players are. I've got three serious contenders so far:

Gary Rohan - Played 2, Lost 2 - Total 12 disposals, 5 marks & scored 1.1 (average 6 disposals, 2.5 marks & .5 goals, .5 behinds.

Leon Davis - Played 4, Lost 3 & Drawn 1 - Total 36 disposals, 6 marks & scored 2.1 (average 9 disposals, 1.5 marks, .5 goals, .25 behinds.

Kurt Tippett (In the context of being a Million Dollar KPF/Ruck player) - Played 2, Lost 2 - Total 26 disposals, 8 marks & scored 1.2 (average 13 disposals, 4 marks & .5 goals, 1 behind)

[bornadog]

Buddy has done nothing special in 5 grand finals he played in.

[ledge]

Cameron Mooney ..

[Flamethrower]

Cameron Mooney ..

Last player to kick 5 goals in a Granny (2007).

[Twodogs]

Last player to kick 5 goals in a Granny (2007).


That's a good stat.



I reckon the worst premiership player I ever saw is Scott Howell at Carlton in 1981. He was a terrible player.

[bulldogtragic]

Buddy has done nothing special in 5 grand finals he played in.

5 Grand Finals - Won 2, Lost 3 - Total Disposals 84, Total Marks 31, Scored 11.9 (average 15.5 disposals, 6 marks, 2.2 goals & .9 behinds

Not brilliant by a long shot, but not in the worst category with the others I'd say.

[bornadog]

5 Grand Finals - Won 2, Lost 3 - Total Disposals 84, Total Marks 31, Scored 11.9 (average 15.5 disposals, 6 marks, 2.2 goals & .9 behinds

Not brilliant by a long shot, but not in the worst category with the others I'd say.

For his high profile, he is not the match winner he has touted to be.

[bulldogtragic]

For his high profile, he is not the match winner he has touted to be.

60% losing rate in Grand Finals is a fairly strong stat.

[LostDoggy]

Rene Kink would have to be up there. Played in 6 GFs for Collingwood and Essendon (no wins, 1 draw, 5 losses) and kicked 5 goals 8 combined as a key forward.

[bulldogtragic]

Rene Kink would have to be up there. Played in 6 GFs for Collingwood and Essendon (no wins, 1 draw, 5 losses) and kicked 5 goals 8 combined as a key forward.

I'm paying that! He's in the club for less than one goal a grand final over 6 attempts and never winning.

[Remi Moses]

I think Tippett would be right up there .
He's stunk it up in 2 GF's now

[ledge]

Last player to kick 5 goals in a Granny (2007).

Are we talking over all grand finals combined or in a certain grand final .. Because he Didn't get a touch in one.

[Twodogs]

Are we talking over all grand finals combined or in a certain grand final .. Because he Didn't get a touch in one.


He's talking about the 2007 GF isn't he?

[LostDoggy]

He's talking about the 2007 GF isn't he?

I think he's referring to the 1999 GF appearance with North as a teenager where he literally had no touches - rare to be so bad in a winning team (although from memory he didn't get much game time).

[Ozza]

5 Grand Finals - Won 2, Lost 3 - Total Disposals 84, Total Marks 31, Scored 11.9 (average 15.5 disposals, 6 marks, 2.2 goals & .9 behinds

Not brilliant by a long shot, but not in the worst category with the others I'd say.

Thought he was probably the swans best player when they got flogged in 2014. Played a sacrificial role in the 2013 premiership, getting up the ground and clearing space for Gunston and Roughead. In 2008 he kicked a couple of very important goals on Scarlett.

There is no doubt Buddy is a big game player. Which makes how well Hamling and Morris did on him on Saturday, an even bigger achievement.

[LostDoggy]

Thought he was probably the swans best player when they got flogged in 2014. Played a sacrificial role in the 2013 premiership, getting up the ground and clearing space for Gunston and Roughead. In 2008 he kicked a couple of very important goals on Scarlett.

There is no doubt Buddy is a big game player. Which makes how well Hamling and Morris did on him on Saturday, an even bigger achievement.

He did play injured in the GF also and did some good things, was far from their worst. Of their ex-Hawthorn players, McGlynn stunk it up pretty bad.

[EasternWest]

He did play injured in the GF also and did some good things, was far from their worst. Of their ex-Hawthorn players, McGlynn stunk it up pretty bad.

He's a great field kick. I never paid much mind to it, but he fired a few in that were like lasers.

[bulldogtragic]

Cameron Mooney ..

Won 3, Lost 1 - Averaging 10.5 Disposals, 6 Marks & 2.2 Goals, 1 Behind.

That's not too bad considering the North GF had no stats.

[bulldogtragic]

He did play injured in the GF also and did some good things, was far from their worst. Of their ex-Hawthorn players, McGlynn stunk it up pretty bad.

McGlynn - Lost 2, Won 0 - Averages 10 disposals, 3 marks, .5 goals, .5 behinds.

Pay this.

[1eyedog]

I think Mark Blake played in two grand finals and had under 10 disposals combined for both.

[hujsh]

I think Mark Blake played in two grand finals and had under 10 disposals combined for both.

On par with his usual performance though

[bulldogtragic]

Bump. Some WCE players in danger of an early entry to this thread.

[Twodogs]

Darling one touch up to quarter time.

[Twodogs]

I see throwing the ball is back.

[bulldogtragic]

Darling one touch up to quarter time.

2015 GF: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles, 1.1
2018 GF: 3 disposals (1 a handball straight over the boundary), 1 mark, 0 tackles, 2 frees against, 4 AFL FPs (worst on ground), 0.0 -- 1/2 time.

He'd want to do a bit more to not have his name etched in this board.

[bornadog]

You went early

[EasternWest]

You went early

Story of my life

[EasternWest]

Holy shit there would've been some glorious irony if the Pies had kicked a goal after Darling spilled that mark.

[bulldogtragic]

You went early

So did he, nearly dropped the premiership on the goal line uncontested. My goodness that's about as big mistake as I've ever seen on a GF day.

Ok, worst 7 of 8 quarters in Grand Finals easily. Pretty close to making the team though, 2015: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal with 2018: 12 disposals, 7 marks, 1 goal. Not a great return for a big, well paid KPF.

[Hotdog60]

I wonder if Mark LeCras will pull the pin now they have won the GF.

[whythelongface]

I wonder if Mark LeCras will pull the pin now they have won the GF.

I cat recall LeCras touching the ball. Maybe a hand pass or two.

[bulldogtragic]

I wonder if Mark LeCras will pull the pin now they have won the GF.

2015: 16 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal/s
2018: 10 disposals, 3 marks, 0 goal/s

That's not a wonderful GF record.

Compared to the Hall of Famers:

Marc LeCras - Played 2, Lost 1/Won 1 - Total Disposals 26, 7 marks, scored 1.2 (average 13 disposals, 3.5 marks, .5 goals, 1 behind)

Gary Rohan - Played 2, Lost 2 - Total 12 disposals, 5 marks & scored 1.1 (average 6 disposals, 2.5 marks & .5 goals, .5 behinds.

Leon Davis - Played 4, Lost 3 & Drawn 1 - Total 36 disposals, 6 marks & scored 2.1 (average 9 disposals, 1.5 marks, .5 goals, .25 behinds.

Kurt Tippett (In the context of being a Million Dollar KPF/Ruck player) - Played 2, Lost 2 - Total 26 disposals, 8 marks & scored 1.2 (average 13 disposals, 4 marks & .5 goals, 1 behind)

[Flamethrower]

LeCras had 10 disposals? Did they count the warm up?

[whythelongface]

LeCras had 10 disposals? Did they count the warm up?

Really??? 10 wow. Thought he might have got a couple but 10. Surely not.

[ledge]

I thought Varcoe did his usual , great for 30 minutes then nothing.
I think he has nailed that game time over the years.

[bulldogtragic]

LeCras had 10 disposals? Did they count the warm up?

I think so, I checked two sites to confirm it. Unless merely touching it counts as some sort of disposal now.

[ratsmac]

So did he, nearly dropped the premiership on the goal line uncontested. My goodness that's about as big mistake as I've ever seen on a GF day.

Ok, worst 7 of 8 quarters in Grand Finals easily. Pretty close to making the team though, 2015: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 1 goal with 2018: 12 disposals, 7 marks, 1 goal. Not a great return for a big, well paid KPF.

Darling could of had a Liam Picken style photo on high rotation but he stuffed it big time.

[bulldogtragic]

Darling could of had a Liam Picken style photo on high rotation but he stuffed it big time.

Yep. And he hasn't shit himself that badly in a final since a baby faced first year Josh Dunkley was in his vacinity in 2016.

He could take a 100% pay cut, give equally to the other 21 players, and still not sacrifice enough to them for saving that premiership for him. If that was the Western Bulldogs and not West Coast Eagles, (less 2016), the ball would've rebounded for a quick heart breaker.

[FrediKanoute]

Darling could of had a Liam Picken style photo on high rotation but he stuffed it big time.

I was already commentating....."its over, the dam wall has br..." - then he fluffed it

[whythelongface]

Darling could of had a Liam Picken style photo on high rotation but he stuffed it big time.

Instead he nearly had a Herschelle Gibbs moment. Luckily for him the Pies didn’t go coast to coast from the resultant kick in.

[Sedat]

Darling's 3rd qtr was Tom Boyd-esque. He got them back in it, and they might not have had the chance to win without it.

Was a terrible missed mark in the last minute. He had a real liicorice allsorts game.

[Remi Moses]

Thought James Aish Was woeful .

[Bulldog Joe]

There were a few interesting performances.

Darling and Mason Cox were both atrocious early but really got into the game in the 3rd quarter. Darling's third quarter was as good as any quarter he has probably played.

Liam Ryan had a moment in the third like Darling's Dunkley moment from 2016 and then had 2 chances to nail a goal for 2 posters.

Darling's last quarter drop was awful. The ball looked to be going straight through without him touching it if he had just let it go.
Not sure he would ever have come back if Collingwood had rebounded the kick in for the winner.

[comrade]

Darling's last quarter drop was awful. The ball looked to be going straight through without him touching it if he had just let it go.
Not sure he would ever have come back if Collingwood had rebounded the kick in for the winner.

He would have been the most relieved man in the world when the siren went. I can't remember a player with such a big gap between his best and worst moments.

[Twodogs]

I said to my son just after Darling dropped that mark "imagine if Collingwood Coast this?" You'd just about top yourself if you were Darling. I mean we all like to hang it on him for the way he shat himself in that 2016 final (and a few other moments) but there would have been no coming back from that.

[bornadog]

I said to my son just after Darling dropped that mark "imagine if Collingwood Coast this?" You'd just about top yourself if you were Darling. I mean we all like to hang it on him for the way he shat himself in that 2016 final (and a few other moments) but there would have been no coming back from that.

I thought Liam Ryan's effort to mark the ball in the 3rd quarter was weak as p. It looked like a certain shot on goal but he heard foot steps.

[Twodogs]

I thought Liam Ryan's effort to mark the ball in the 3rd quarter was weak as p. It looked like a certain shot on goal but he heard foot steps.


He hit back with a couple of big moments in the last quarter though. I thought Jarrah getting across to him at 3/4 time and putting his arm around him was what a really good teammate does.

[azabob]

He hit back with a couple of big moments in the last quarter though. I thought Jarrah getting across to him at 3/4 time and putting his arm around him was what a really good teammate does.

I assume you mean Jetta, but i thought that was quite odd considering Jetta has heard his fair share of footsteps throughout his career.

[The Pie Man]

I assume you mean Jetta, but i thought that was quite odd considering Jetta has heard his fair share of footsteps throughout his career.

Who better to counsel than one who can relate?

[Twodogs]

I assume you mean Jetta, but i thought that was quite odd considering Jetta has heard his fair share of footsteps throughout his career.

You are correct. I may have been making myself a frothy milk drink when I was posting that.

[bulldogtragic]

With Rohan's stinker I thought it'd be interesting to see who the worst performed Grand Final players are. I've got three serious contenders so far:

Gary Rohan - Played 2, Lost 2 - Total 12 disposals, 5 marks & scored 1.1 (average 6 disposals, 2.5 marks & .5 goals, .5 behinds.

Leon Davis - Played 4, Lost 3 & Drawn 1 - Total 36 disposals, 6 marks & scored 2.1 (average 9 disposals, 1.5 marks, .5 goals, .25 behinds.

Kurt Tippett (In the context of being a Million Dollar KPF/Ruck player) - Played 2, Lost 2 - Total 26 disposals, 8 marks & scored 1.2 (average 13 disposals, 4 marks & .5 goals, 1 behind)

It’s not a Grand Final, but Rohan with three touches (33% eff.) to 3/4 time in a QF (71 minutes played). I can’t recall the enormous gap between H&A and finals for a player since Neon Leon.

[bornadog]

It’s not a Grand Final, but Rohan with three touches (33% eff.) to 3/4 time in a QF (71 minutes played). I can’t recall the enormous gap between H&A and finals for a player since Neon Leon.

He has had a very poor second half of the season

[mjp]

He has had a very poor second half of the season

See - I think the opposite. The only time he looked like a player was when he was playing out of the goalsquare at the start of this season. At Sydney and since his return from injury this year he has been a promise of much (speed, skilled - he must look amazing at training) but a deliverer of very little. I don’t think Geelong should play him.