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azabob
13-06-2017, 07:29 PM
Maybe the injury?
Really it's, to me, JJ, Dale, Roberts, Webb - After season finishes Crameri, Redpath, Hamilton, Honey, 30's, Rookies.
Agree with that order.
Big Red will need a strong second half of the season to get a new contract.
bulldogtragic
13-06-2017, 07:30 PM
Mark Stevens reporting that Chris Grant is now taken over talks with JJ management. Not sure if that good or bad news? Interesting none the less.
Good news. Every time I hear from his manager, I think he's the problem. Chris adds another sensible person into the mix which can only be a good thing if my reading of the tea leaves is correct.
ratsmac
13-06-2017, 08:00 PM
Good news. Every time I hear from his manager, I think he's the problem. Chris adds another sensible person into the mix which can only be a good thing if my reading of the tea leaves is correct.
Yeah hopefully it was JJ who suggested C Grant to talk to his manager. Hey Granty this bloke's off his tree, can you talk some sense to him so I can just sign already!
ratsmac
13-06-2017, 08:02 PM
The Western Bulldogs have secured another of its promising youngsters, with Josh Dunkley agreeing to terms on a two-year contract extension.
Dunkley, who is currently recovering from a shoulder injury, will remain at Victoria University Whitten Oval until at least the end of the 2019 season.
The 19-year-old joins Kieran Collins, Lewis Young, Patrick Lipinski, Clay Smith, Marcus Adams, Tim English and Bailey Williams as other Bulldogs to have recently signed contract extensions.
“Josh has made an impressive start to his AFL career and we’re thrilled to see him extend his contract with the Club,” said Bulldogs' List Manager Jason McCartney.
“His development in such a short time at the Bulldogs has been terrific, and clearly his upside is enormous for such a young player.
“It was disappointing to see him suffer an injury earlier this season, however we’re excited about what the future holds for him.”
After being taken with selection 25 in the 2016 NAB AFL Draft, Dunkley played 17 games in his debut season, including being a member of the Bulldogs’ premiership side and being nominated for the Rising Star Award.
Playing as a forward who could spend time in the midfield, Dunkley averaged 16 disposals per game and kicked nine goals in 2016.
Awesome!
lemmon
13-06-2017, 09:25 PM
Yeah hopefully it was JJ who suggested C Grant to talk to his manager. Hey Granty this bloke's of his tree, can you talk some sense to him so I can just sign already!
Really? JJ is a 24 year old man that's appointed someone to act on his behalf. If his management is the issue, it's just as much his fault for allowing it to spiral.
I think if this continues, we're going to have to put our foot down at some point and take our offer off the table. This feels like JJ and management dragging us further and further into deeper waters.
The Hawks and Cats sides took pay cuts to keep the dynasty going, JJ clearly isnt of that thinking. Eventually we have to put a final offer to him and face the reality that he goes.
He's a gun but half backs are replaceable.
Topdog
14-06-2017, 09:40 AM
Really? JJ is a 24 year old man that's appointed someone to act on his behalf. If his management is the issue, it's just as much his fault for allowing it to spiral.
I think if this continues, we're going to have to put our foot down at some point and take our offer off the table. This feels like JJ and management dragging us further and further into deeper waters.
The Hawks and Cats sides took pay cuts to keep the dynasty going, JJ clearly isnt of that thinking. Eventually we have to put a final offer to him and face the reality that he goes.
He's a gun but half backs are replaceable.
Its much harder with the ridiculous situation of the salary cap still not being finalised. Seriously the AFL are a disgrace with this.
always right
14-06-2017, 11:15 AM
He's a gun but half backs are replaceable.
Really? Biggs is replaceable. Boyd is replaceable. What about a freakish intercept mark like Wood? Is a line breaker like JJ easily replaced, particularly in a side pretty much devoid of pace? I wouldn't have thought so..
Eastdog
14-06-2017, 11:24 AM
Really? Biggs is replaceable. Boyd is replaceable. What about a freakish intercept mark like Wood? Is a line breaker like JJ easily replaced, particularly in a side pretty much devoid of pace? I wouldn't have thought so..
Tend to agree AR. Players of the calibre of Murph, Morris and Boyd will be replaced eventually but will the replacements be as good as them.
Eastdog
14-06-2017, 11:25 AM
Really? Biggs is replaceable. Boyd is replaceable. What about a freakish intercept mark like Wood? Is a line breaker like JJ easily replaced, particularly in a side pretty much devoid of pace? I wouldn't have thought so..
Wood has been quite good. Great intercept mark that's for sure.
1eyedog
14-06-2017, 12:50 PM
Really? Biggs is replaceable. Boyd is replaceable. What about a freakish intercept mark like Wood? Is a line breaker like JJ easily replaced, particularly in a side pretty much devoid of pace? I wouldn't have thought so..
Potentially in Lynch for the short term and anyone quick / can find the ball who would accept a 550k contract to play with a finals side for the long term. JJ is a very good player but not a great or irreplaceable one.
Doc26
14-06-2017, 02:31 PM
Mark Stevens reporting that Chris Grant is now taken over talks with JJ management. Not sure if that good or bad news? Interesting none the less.
Noticed that as well Aza. Stevo indicated that this was a positive but I'm not sure why this would be viewed this way. At face value it would seem that the relationship with JMac and JJ's manager has broken down which I can only imagine might have JJ himself on the nose with Club management. The sooner this is sorted the better as it's seemingly now getting out of hand if Chris is having to come in and take over from JMac. If this runs the course of the season it runs the risk of derailing us to some extent.
lemmon
14-06-2017, 06:28 PM
Really? Biggs is replaceable. Boyd is replaceable. What about a freakish intercept mark like Wood? Is a line breaker like JJ easily replaced, particularly in a side pretty much devoid of pace? I wouldn't have thought so..
Absolutely. If the Hawks were able to replace a gun full forward like Franklin, we can find another half back flanker.
I don't think we should be selling the farm to keep anyone.
Mantis
20-06-2017, 04:25 PM
After a few tough weeks here is some news to brighten up your day.
Roberts extends deal
June 20, 2017 3:59 PM
Western Bulldogs defender Fletcher Roberts has agreed to terms on a two-year contract extension, keeping him at the Club until at least the end of the 2019 season.
Roberts is the latest in a line of Bulldogs who have re-committed to the Club in recent months, with the 24-year-old joining Kieran Collins, Lewis Young, Patrick Lipinski, Clay Smith, Marcus Adams, Tim English and Bailey Williams to have re-signed.
“We’ve been really encouraged by Fletcher’s development as a tall defender since he came to us in 2012, particularly the last 12 months” List Manager Jason McCartney told westernbulldogs.com.au on Tuesday.
“Fletcher reads the play well and regularly leads the side in one percenters, which is a tribute to how hard he works for his teammates.
“We look forward to watching him grow as a footballer over the next couple of years.”
The 196cm, 90 kg Roberts was taken with the 11th pick of the 2011 Pre-season Draft and has played 46 games for the Club.
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2017-06-20/roberts-extends-deal
azabob
20-06-2017, 07:38 PM
Not that we play him but if both Webb and JJ go and with Jong out injured our mid sized player depth will be lacking in 2018. Considering both Hrovat and Stevens left last year.
Do we upgrade Lynch?
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
07-07-2017, 07:38 PM
Don't know how much credence to place on it but Jon Ralph said tonight that JJ's Melbourne based manager is adamant that JJ wants to stay at the Dogs and they've put a counter offer to the Dogs and hopes its settled soon. Reckons that the $800k is not true and he's only ever expressed a desire to play with the Dogs... time will tell I guess.
Also said that of the 3 oldies -Murph, Boyd & Moz..almost certain Boyd will finish and in light of recent injuries probably Murph too.. but Moz has said he feels mentally fresh and is keen to play another year and the club are very open to that.
G-Mo77
07-07-2017, 07:40 PM
Like all the innuendo of him leaving I'll celebrate or be disappointed when it actually happens.
bulldogtragic
07-07-2017, 07:41 PM
Don't know how much credence to place on it but Jon Ralph said tonight that JJ's Melbourne based manager is adamant that JJ wants to stay at the Dogs and they've put a counter offer to the Dogs and hopes its settled soon. Reckons that the $800k is not true and he's only ever expressed a desire to play with the Dogs... time will tell I guess.
Also said that of the 3 oldies -Murph, Boyd & Moz..almost certain Boyd will finish and in light of recent injuries probably Murph too.. but Moz has said he feels mentally fresh and is keen to play another year and the club are very open to that.
Has he changed managers? I thought I read earlier this year that his manager is in WA?
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
07-07-2017, 07:46 PM
Has he changed managers? I thought I read earlier this year that his manager is in WA?
That's why i posted what Ralph said because it was at odds with what I thought. Maybe Ralph got it wrong...that wouldn't surprise me.
Axe Man
20-07-2017, 01:05 PM
Wood signs contract extension (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2017-07-20/wood-signs-contract-extension)
Western Bulldogs vice-captain Easton Wood has agreed to terms on a contract extension that will keep him at VU Whitten Oval until at least the end of the 2020 season.
The 27-year-old Wood was set to be a free agent at the end of 2018, but instead recommitted to the Club for a further two years on top of his current deal.
Western Bulldogs List Manager Jason McCartney told westernbulldogs.com.au that people like Wood are what football clubs are all about.
“I can’t speak highly enough of Easton as a player and as an individual,” McCartney said.
“On the field he’s athleticism and intercept marking abilities are elite and he rarely gets beaten in a one-on-one contest.
“And off the field, he’s obviously a key member of our group. He had big shoes to fill last season, stepping in as captain for Rob Murphy, and he couldn’t have handled it better.
”He loves the Club, and we’re really pleased he’s chosen to extend his contract this early.”
Wood arrived at the Bulldogs via a third round selection (43rd overall) in the 2007 AFL National Draft, and has since played 122 games after debuting in Round 19, 2009 against the West Coast Eagles.
The Camperdown product is the tenth player to have signed new deals this season, with Wood joining Jason Johannisen, Kieran Collins, Lewis Young, Patrick Lipinski, Clay Smith, Marcus Adams, Tim English, Bailey Williams and Fletcher Roberts to have re-signed in 2017
The Doctor
20-07-2017, 01:14 PM
Bloody Brilliant.
hujsh
20-07-2017, 01:24 PM
Good to be signing guys up early and avoiding speculation
Nuggety Back Pocket
20-07-2017, 02:36 PM
link (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2017-07-20/wood-signs-contract-extension)
Western Bulldogs vice-captain Easton Wood has agreed to terms on a contract extension that will keep him at VU Whitten Oval until at least the end of the 2020 season.
The 27-year-old Wood was set to be a free agent at the end of 2018, but instead recommitted to the Club for a further two years on top of his current deal.
Western Bulldogs List Manager Jason McCartney told westernbulldogs.com.au that people like Wood are what football clubs are all about.
“I can’t speak highly enough of Easton as a player and as an individual,” McCartney said.
“On the field he’s athleticism and intercept marking abilities are elite and he rarely gets beaten in a one-on-one contest.
“And off the field, he’s obviously a key member of our group. He had big shoes to fill last season, stepping in as captain for Rob Murphy, and he couldn’t have handled it better.
”He loves the Club, and we’re really pleased he’s chosen to extend his contract this early.”
Wood arrived at the Bulldogs via a third round selection (43rd overall) in the 2007 AFL National Draft, and has since played 122 games after debuting in Round 19, 2009 against the West Coast Eagles.
The Camperdown product is the tenth player to have signed new deals this season, with Wood joining Jason Johannisen, Kieran Collins, Lewis Young, Patrick Lipinski, Clay Smith, Marcus Adams, Tim English, Bailey Williams and Fletcher Roberts to have re-signed in 2017
This is a good move. Wood rose to the occasion last year as acting Captain and provides the leadership qualities to be an outstanding ambassador for the Club. This would have to be our most significant signing of all the new deals.
Remi Moses
20-07-2017, 03:32 PM
Great re-signing . Gee that Boyd deal is killing us
always right
20-07-2017, 04:37 PM
Great to see him extend his contract. Love watching this bloke play.
ledge
20-07-2017, 04:41 PM
Great re-signing . Gee that Boyd deal is killing us
Yep ask Barrett and while your asking him make sure your holding Toms premiership medal and also have the membership figures including the debt reduction records since we signed him.
jeemak
20-07-2017, 04:59 PM
We also re-signed Picken.
bornadog
20-07-2017, 05:18 PM
We also re-signed Picken.
They forgot about him.
bornadog
13-08-2017, 11:52 AM
Stevo reporting Redpath has a one year contract in front of him, with a games trigger to extend another year. He hasn't signed it and Carlton are interested in him and may depend on what Casboult does.
bulldogtragic
13-08-2017, 11:54 AM
Stevo reporting Redpath has a one year contract in front of him, with a games trigger to extend another year. He hasn't signed it and Carlton are interested in him and may depend on what Casboult does.
I just posted I suspected this with Carlton getting good free agency compo on Casboult and then using a nothing pick to get Redpath. Nothing because player values have hit an all time low.
bornadog
13-08-2017, 11:58 AM
I just posted I suspected this with Carlton getting good free agency component on Casboult and then using a nothing pick to get Redpath. Nothing because player values have hit an all time low.
My gut says Redpath will stay.
bulldogtragic
13-08-2017, 12:01 PM
My gut says Redpath will stay.
I'm surprised he hasn't signed it. If I had a history of knee injuries I'd be signing before anything could go wrong. Touch wood nothing does for him.
GVGjr
13-08-2017, 12:51 PM
My gut says Redpath will stay.
Strong speculation that Cloke might call it a day. That would strengthen Redpath staying
bulldogtragic
13-08-2017, 01:02 PM
Strong speculation that Cloke might call it a day. That would strengthen Redpath staying
Really? Ripping up his contract?
ratsmac
13-08-2017, 01:23 PM
Strong speculation that Cloke might call it a day. That would strengthen Redpath staying
I heard that too but I also heard it was BS. Right now he's better than nothing so I hope he sees out his contract. Although if if did call it a day it would force us in another direction where we might find a diamond rough.
GVGjr
13-08-2017, 04:08 PM
I heard that too but I also heard it was BS. Right now he's better than nothing so I hope he sees out his contract. Although if if did call it a day it would force us in another direction where we might find a diamond rough.
Ben Hart was a coach of his and suggested he thinks it's likely. Where did you hear it was BS?
Cloke (http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/20308292/afl-front-centre-travis-cloke-quit-year-contract)
bornadog
13-08-2017, 04:11 PM
Ben Hart was a coach of his and suggested he thinks it's likely. Where did you hear it was BS?
Cloke (http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/20308292/afl-front-centre-travis-cloke-quit-year-contract)
Doesn't surprise me and wouldn't worry me too much.
GVGjr
13-08-2017, 04:13 PM
Doesn't surprise me and wouldn't worry me too much.
Depends on the reason for his departure if it's true.
bornadog
13-08-2017, 04:14 PM
Depends on the reason for his departure if it's true.
Sounds like he is not enjoying his footy anymore? Any ideas?
azabob
13-08-2017, 04:15 PM
Ben Hart was a coach of his and suggested he thinks it's likely. Where did you hear it was BS?
Cloke (http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/20308292/afl-front-centre-travis-cloke-quit-year-contract)
It was pretty much shot down the same night by the Cloke camp.
GVGjr
13-08-2017, 04:19 PM
It was pretty much shot down the same night by the Cloke camp.
I hope so, if he's happy to play with us I'm more than happy to have him at the club next year.
Was that reported anywhere or shot down by someone on the radio?
GVGjr
13-08-2017, 04:20 PM
Sounds like he is not enjoying his footy anymore? Any ideas?
Not at all but with a mental health challenge during the season you could understand if he puts his health before footy.
bulldogtragic
13-08-2017, 04:28 PM
Doesn't surprise me and wouldn't worry me too much.
I'd prefer him at the club. He was working towards some form before Ziebell legally caved his chest in. Since coming back from his break away, he's been building up again. I thought his game on the weekend was his best overall for the club in the role Bevo has in mind CHF/FF/ruck. I'd especially like to see some new mids who can kick it to his advantage. If he had class service we'd be in a love fest over Trav, for example he had his defender dead to rights in the 3rd quarter and all Dunkley had to do was kick a 40m drop punt to his position or over and Trav would've marked and possibly run into a gimme. But he couldn't get ok service, let alone silver service.
I say we help get him happy, we get him fit and we continue the path next year. Ziebell caving his chest in when he couldn't defend himself has robbed Trav and the club.
bornadog
13-08-2017, 04:35 PM
I'd prefer him at the club. He was working towards some form before Ziebell legally caved his chest in. Since coming back from his break away, he's been building up again. I thought his game on the weekend was his best overall for the club in the role Bevo has in mind CHF/FF/ruck. I'd especially like to see some new mids who can kick it to his advantage. If he had class service we'd be in a love fest over Trav, for example he had his defender dead to rights in the 3rd quarter and all Dunkley had to do was kick a 40m drop punt to his position or over and Trav would've marked and possibly run into a gimme. But he couldn't get ok service, let alone silver service.
I say we help get him happy, we get him fit and we continue the path next year. Ziebell caving his chest in when he couldn't defend himself has robbed Trav and the club.
I prefer to also keep him, we need some experience in the forward line. What I am saying if he did retire, I would also not be too unhappy.
ratsmac
13-08-2017, 04:37 PM
I hope so, if he's happy to play with us I'm more than happy to have him at the club next year.
Was that reported anywhere or shot down by someone on the radio?
It was either radio or one of the multiple football shows I watch. To be honest I can't recall who said it but yeah it was said his management/people that dismissed it. So who knows at this stage.
ratsmac
13-08-2017, 04:59 PM
I'd prefer him at the club. He was working towards some form before Ziebell legally caved his chest in. Since coming back from his break away, he's been building up again. I thought his game on the weekend was his best overall for the club in the role Bevo has in mind CHF/FF/ruck. I'd especially like to see some new mids who can kick it to his advantage. If he had class service we'd be in a love fest over Trav, for example he had his defender dead to rights in the 3rd quarter and all Dunkley had to do was kick a 40m drop punt to his position or over and Trav would've marked and possibly run into a gimme. But he couldn't get ok service, let alone silver service.
I say we help get him happy, we get him fit and we continue the path next year. Ziebell caving his chest in when he couldn't defend himself has robbed Trav and the club.
I would also love to see Trav get something out of his time with us other than bad memories of broken ribs and depression. I would love to see him enjoying playing football for the Western Bulldogs so that when he does retire he'll call himself a Collingwood/Western Bulldogs player.
bulldogtragic
13-08-2017, 05:50 PM
I would also love to see Trav get something out of his time with us other than bad memories of broken ribs and depression. I would love to see him enjoying playing football for the Western Bulldogs so that when he does retire he'll call himself a Collingwood/Western Bulldogs player.
Ditto. I'd love to know his GPS data, because he seems to be covering more ground than most of our recent tall forwards. That's a hard thing replace, especially when it's the bail out kick player who often marks it. If we can't replace that, then we have more turnovers. We're all good for turnovers.
josie
13-08-2017, 10:33 PM
I want Clokey to stay. He is teaching our young forwards heaps and at least provides an aerial threat- may not hold them as often as he used to but as I recall it not often outmarked. He has a big tank and that instinctive goal he kicked onFriday was pretty damn good. If we had better crumbling forwards would be reaping more reward from his presence inF50.
bornadog
14-08-2017, 03:49 PM
Rival clubs are circling versatile midfielder Lukas Webb ahead of the AFL off-season (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/rival-clubs-are-circling-versatile-midfielder-lukas-webb-ahead-of-the-afl-offseason/news-story/01dcafcae3ee5b9b86e3abd9f85b74ce)
WESTERN Bulldogs could lose one of its talented young midfielders as rivals circle versatile ball winner Lukas Webb.
The 21-year-old has struggled to lock down a senior berth in his third AFL season and is weighing up his future.
The Dogs are keen to keep Webb and have offered him a deal to stay for at least the next two years.
But the No.27 draft pick is eyeing more senior AFL opportunities and looks set to wait until after the season to make a decision.
The depth and strength of the Dogs’ young gun midfield means Webb’s best chance to cement a permanent onball position could be interstate.
Midfield teammate Lin Jong will return from a knee reconstruction next season, adding further competition for spots in the middle in 2018.
Gold Coast could make a play for Webb to help bolster its thin midfield following a string of player departures including Jaeger O’Meara, Dion Prestia and potentially Gary Ablett.
Webb, from Gippsland, lost his senior place on the eve of the Dogs’ stunning finals campaign last year and was again omitted from the team for Friday night’s loss to Greater Western Sydney.
The goalkicking midfielder has averaged 11 possessions across nine senior games over the past two seasons, including only four senior matches this year.
The Dogs have smartly retained their priority young premiership stars from poaching raids but midfield pair Webb and Clay Smith appear the most vulnerable to other offers after stints in the VFL.
Webb’s form in the VFL has been strong, kicking four goals in a best on ground performance against Coburg three weeks ago.
Sedat
14-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Rival clubs are circling versatile midfielder Lukas Webb ahead of the AFL off-season (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/rival-clubs-are-circling-versatile-midfielder-lukas-webb-ahead-of-the-afl-offseason/news-story/01dcafcae3ee5b9b86e3abd9f85b74ce)
WESTERN Bulldogs could lose one of its talented young midfielders as rivals circle versatile ball winner Lukas Webb.
The 21-year-old has struggled to lock down a senior berth in his third AFL season and is weighing up his future.
The Dogs are keen to keep Webb and have offered him a deal to stay for at least the next two years.
But the No.27 draft pick is eyeing more senior AFL opportunities and looks set to wait until after the season to make a decision.
The depth and strength of the Dogs’ young gun midfield means Webb’s best chance to cement a permanent onball position could be interstate.
Midfield teammate Lin Jong will return from a knee reconstruction next season, adding further competition for spots in the middle in 2018.
Gold Coast could make a play for Webb to help bolster its thin midfield following a string of player departures including Jaeger O’Meara, Dion Prestia and potentially Gary Ablett.
Webb, from Gippsland, lost his senior place on the eve of the Dogs’ stunning finals campaign last year and was again omitted from the team for Friday night’s loss to Greater Western Sydney.
The goalkicking midfielder has averaged 11 possessions across nine senior games over the past two seasons, including only four senior matches this year.
The Dogs have smartly retained their priority young premiership stars from poaching raids but midfield pair Webb and Clay Smith appear the most vulnerable to other offers after stints in the VFL.
Webb’s form in the VFL has been strong, kicking four goals in a best on ground performance against Coburg three weeks ago.
I like Webb but if he wants to pursue greater opps at GC let's sit and talk with them. Ditto Smithy if other clubs are circling.
bulldogtragic
14-08-2017, 04:38 PM
Didn't Smith sign a one year extension?
I like Webb but if he wants to pursue greater opps at GC let's sit and talk with them. Ditto Smithy if other clubs are circling.
I also like Webb and prefer him to stay.
BUT - seems a strange move for Gold Coast.
If the Suns are after a not-really-physical mid-sized player, with nice skills - then absolutely look no further.....than two thirds of your current list.
Happy Days
15-08-2017, 07:22 PM
Didn't Smith sign a one year extension?
I'm willing to look past it if Clay and the club are.
bornadog
17-08-2017, 03:13 PM
Dale’s new deal (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2017-08-17/dales-new-deal-)
Western Bulldogs youngster Bailey Dale has this week signed a contract extension that will keep him at VU Whitten Oval until at least the end of the 2019 season.
Dale is the latest in a long line of players to recommit to the Bulldogs this year, with the 21-year-old joining Jason Johannisen, Kieran Collins, Lewis Young, Patrick Lipinski, Clay Smith, Marcus Adams, Tim English, Bailey Williams and Fletcher Roberts to have put pen to paper on new deals.
Western Bulldogs list manager Jason McCartney said the Club was pleased to secure the Edithvale-Aspendale product into the future.
“We’ve seen Bailey take a real step forward this season, and it’s been terrific to see,” McCartney told westernbulldogs.com.au.
“We’ve always known that he’s an excellent user of the footy, he’s got clean, quick hands, and he certainly knows where the goals are.
“He’s still just 21 years old so we’d expect there to be plenty of improvement left in his game, and we look forward to watching him continue to develop over the next couple of seasons.”
Dale was taken with pick 45 in the 2014 NAB AFL National Draft and went on to debut in Round 7, 2015 against Fremantle.
The former Dandenong Stingray played 10 games in his first season at the kennel, and was a member of Footscray’s 2016 premiership side.
Dale has recorded career highs in disposals, contested possessions, goals, inside 50s and tackles in 2017 and has played 28 career games.
LostDoggy
01-09-2017, 08:15 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-01/young-bulldog-pup-inks-twoyear-deal
THE WESTERN Bulldogs have retained the services of youngster Lukas Webb, with the third-year midfielder recommitting to the club on a new two-year deal.
GVGjr
01-09-2017, 08:19 PM
Thats good news, I'm very hopeful that Webb can become a regular senior player. I'd like to see him return to playing off a back flank.
bulldogtragic
01-09-2017, 08:22 PM
Really good retain. Like others, I'd prefer to send him back to a more natural position like a back flank and try to get him kicking as much as possible with that great left foot of his.
Bulldog4life
02-09-2017, 08:58 AM
Thats good news, I'm very hopeful that Webb can become a regular senior player. I'd like to see him return to playing off a back flank.
That might happen as Bevo told Webb that there will be more chances for him at AFL level now that Murph and Boyd have retired. Both hbf's.
azabob
03-09-2017, 06:59 AM
Morris signed for 2018.
Webb and Redpath sign till end of 2019.
ledge
03-09-2017, 07:24 AM
Glad they signed Redpath again He is the only player we have as a lead up forward. It was only that stupid mrp that wrecked his season.
Everytime he started to come good they would stop him in his tracks.
We need to look for him more with lowered eyes.
Hotdog60
03-09-2017, 07:34 AM
Has Redpath still got a week hanging over his head?
ledge
03-09-2017, 07:57 AM
So who are the players left that havent been re-signed?
comrade
03-09-2017, 08:01 AM
Happy with Morris and Webb. Redpath, meh.
GVGjr
03-09-2017, 08:35 AM
Has Redpath still got a week hanging over his head?
Yes, I think so
Honey and Hamilton are the only ones left unsigned?
azabob
03-09-2017, 08:37 AM
Honey and Hamilton are the only ones left unsigned?
And Crameri.
GVGjr
03-09-2017, 08:44 AM
So these are the players that I don't think have been signed so far:
Bradley Lynch, Declan Hamilton, Joshua Prudden , Mitch Honeychurch, Nathan Mullenger-McHugh, Roarke Smith and Stewart Crameri.
I would expect that Nathan Mullenger-McHugh will be kept as a rookie and I'm not sure of the others
Of course Robert Murphy and Matthew Boyd have retired and there still appears to be a question mark if Travis Cloke will stay on for next year but that is his call to make.
You would have to think a couple of trades might get completed.
Morris signed for 2018.
Webb and Redpath sign till end of 2019.
Happy with Moz and Webb, jury still out on Redpath.
kruder
03-09-2017, 10:57 AM
Im keen for Webb to play forward flank, I remember watching him in the warm up in the the Essendon game he didn't miss a shot. Considering our goal kicking accuracy this year and that fact he can play there without winning a massive amount of ball but take his chances when they come.
josie
03-09-2017, 11:37 AM
Kruger, I agree. Webb looked more comfortable and more dangerous in forward half than mid or HBF - a position where we have fair bit of cover. Perhaps rotation b/w mid and forward flanker seeing as Bevo likes flexibility.
bornadog
03-09-2017, 11:42 AM
Read in the paper that this year will be the biggest trade of contracted players. (can't remember who said that)
Seems alot of signings but clubs are still keen to try and trade for a player they want.
Bulldog4life
03-09-2017, 12:39 PM
Read in the paper that this year will be the biggest trade of contracted players. (can't remember who said that)
Seems alot of signings but clubs are still keen to try and trade for a player they want.
Dodoro said it
Doc26
03-09-2017, 12:43 PM
Happy with Morris and Webb. Redpath, meh.
Morris re-signing probable indication that we are behind in any chase for Lever.
bornadog
03-09-2017, 02:30 PM
Morris re-signing probable indication that we are behind in any chase for Lever.
or, we need someone to help our very young backline.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DItYC2gVYAAitgy.jpg
Mantis
12-09-2017, 05:12 PM
Declan Hamilton has been delisted.
bulldogtragic
12-09-2017, 05:13 PM
Declan Hamilton has been delisted.
Just the one cut? No Honey?
ledge
12-09-2017, 05:21 PM
Just the one cut? No Honey?
You only delist players who are no interest to other clubs .. I would say Honeychurch has some sort of trade value , maybe the added cutlery to a big deal ?
Personally I would give him another year , he was just starting to show something at AFL level.
bornadog
12-09-2017, 05:22 PM
Just the one cut? No Honey?
So Far I guess.
bulldogtragic
12-09-2017, 05:28 PM
So Far I guess.
Interesting. I can only guess how we might get 6 turnovers off the main list. Only 3 so far.
ledge
12-09-2017, 05:40 PM
Interesting. I can only guess how we might get 6 turnovers off the main list. Only 3 so far.
Maybe through trade. But God knows , seems Crameri is gone from his interview about his manager looking at options.
Eastdog
13-09-2017, 01:02 PM
You only delist players who are no interest to other clubs .. I would say Honeychurch has some sort of trade value , maybe the added cutlery to a big deal ?
Personally I would give him another year , he was just starting to show something at AFL level.
Yes I wouldn't be cutting Honeychurch just yet. Like you said ledge before he went out he was showing some good signs. Webb watching him on Sunday been great at VFL level hoping he can do it at AFL level more.
bulldogtragic
01-11-2017, 11:38 AM
Luke Beveridge: 2020
Jackson Macrae: 2018
Jordan Roughead: 2018 (FA)
Luke Dahl: 2018 (FA)
Mitch Wallis: 2018 (FA)
Tom Liberatore: 2018 (FA)
Zaine Cordy: 2018
Lin Jong: 2018
Shane Biggs: 2018
Matthew Suckling: 2018
Tory Dickson: 2018
Clay Smith: 2018
Keiran Collins: 2018
Fergus Greene: 2018
Dale Morris: 2018 (FA)
Mitch Honeychurch: 2018
Tom Campbell: 2018
Roarke Smith: 2018 (Rookie) ??
Bradley Lynch: 2018 (Rookie)
Nathan Mc-Mc: 2018 (Rookie)
Pick 9 RD: 2018 (Rookie)
Marcus Bontempelli: 2019
Lachie Hunter: 2019
Toby McLean: 2019
Caleb Daniel: 2019
Liam Picken: 2019
Bailey Williams: 2019
Lewis Young: 2019
Josh Dunkley: 2019
Fletch Roberts: 2019
Bailey Dale: 2019
Lukas Webb: 2019
Jack Redpath: 2019
Pick 9: 2019
Pick 16: 2019
Pick 82: 2019
Tim English: 2020
Pat Lipinski: 2020
Marcus Adams: 2020
Easton Wood: 2020
Tom Boyd: 2021
JJ: 2022
Updated the OP. Not too busy a year for our list manager, at least compared to the list signings this year. 2019 looks massive.
Doc26
01-11-2017, 12:26 PM
Updated the OP. Not too busy a year for our list manager, at least compared to the list signings this year. 2019 looks massive.
Although 4 free agents (plus Moz) in 2018 will seriously test the purse strings particularly to still hold enough in reserve to cover, as you say, the challenge of 2019.
bulldogtragic
01-11-2017, 12:33 PM
Although 4 free agents (plus Moz) in 2018 will seriously test the purse strings particularly to still hold enough in reserve to cover, as you say, the challenge of 2019.
Bonts is obviously the big one. They'll be two incremental salary cap rises by then (over the main rise), plus we have taken out of the equation having to make Stringer a massive offer (lesser Crameri too), plus there's still some cap banking. I'd think we can keep them all, it's just additionally whether there's much left in the cap to pursue decent quality trades and decent quality free agents. That's all down to the structures of the contacts in the cap, hopefully we've been doing it well.
dadsgirl16
01-11-2017, 04:20 PM
I would be wanting J Macrae as a priority signature from that 2018 list
jazzadogs
01-11-2017, 09:57 PM
Sign now
Jackson Macrae: 2018
Zaine Cordy: 2018
Luke Dahl: 2018 (FA)
Mitch Wallis: 2018 (FA)
Tom Liberatore: 2018 (FA)
Wait until end of season but likely sign
Jordan Roughead: 2018 (FA)
Lin Jong: 2018
Shane Biggs: 2018
Matthew Suckling: 2018
Tory Dickson: 2018
Clay Smith: 2018
Wait til end of season but high chance of not re-signing
Keiran Collins: 2018
Fergus Greene: 2018
Mitch Honeychurch: 2018
Tom Campbell: 2018
Dale Morris: 2018 (FA)
hujsh
01-11-2017, 11:36 PM
Sign now
Jackson Macrae: 2018
Zaine Cordy: 2018
Luke Dahl: 2018 (FA)
Mitch Wallis: 2018 (FA)
Tom Liberatore: 2018 (FA)
Wait until end of season but likely sign
Jordan Roughead: 2018 (FA)
Lin Jong: 2018
Shane Biggs: 2018
Matthew Suckling: 2018
Tory Dickson: 2018
Clay Smith: 2018
Wait til end of season but high chance of not re-signing
Keiran Collins: 2018
Fergus Greene: 2018
Mitch Honeychurch: 2018
Tom Campbell: 2018
Dale Morris: 2018 (FA)
I'd consider moving Wallis down and would probably move Collins up.
G-Mo77
02-11-2017, 04:17 PM
Sign now
Jackson Macrae: 2018
Zaine Cordy: 2018
Luke Dahl: 2018 (FA)
Mitch Wallis: 2018 (FA)
Tom Liberatore: 2018 (FA)
Wait until end of season but likely sign
Jordan Roughead: 2018 (FA)
Lin Jong: 2018
Shane Biggs: 2018
Matthew Suckling: 2018
Tory Dickson: 2018
Clay Smith: 2018
Wait til end of season but high chance of not re-signing
Keiran Collins: 2018
Fergus Greene: 2018
Mitch Honeychurch: 2018
Tom Campbell: 2018
Dale Morris: 2018 (FA)
Good post Jazza. I'll just add what I'd change to it and it's just my opinion. Feel free to pick it apart as well. :)
I wouldn't be rushing out to sign Libba or Dahlhaus just yet. Ideally I'd like them in 2019 but if we see something similar to 2017 losing 1 would maybe work out OK.
Jong and Biggs I'd wait and see but wouldn't wait too long. I like both.
Smith and Dickson I've got big question marks over so wait and see approach is preferred and 1 of 2 staying also preferred. Maybe neither.
Suckling can go.
Collins and Greene I'd like to keep on for longer.
Dale Morris to play on until he's 65.
jazzadogs
02-11-2017, 08:59 PM
Good post Jazza. I'll just add what I'd change to it and it's just my opinion. Feel free to pick it apart as well. :)
I wouldn't be rushing out to sign Libba or Dahlhaus just yet. Ideally I'd like them in 2019 but if we see something similar to 2017 losing 1 would maybe work out OK.
Jong and Biggs I'd wait and see but wouldn't wait too long. I like both.
Smith and Dickson I've got big question marks over so wait and see approach is preferred and 1 of 2 staying also preferred. Maybe neither.
Suckling can go.
Collins and Greene I'd like to keep on for longer.
Dale Morris to play on until he's 65.
Fair call on Libba and Dahl, although I definitely hope that they're still with us in 2019. I don't want another Stringer situation where we are shopping them around below cost.
Jong and Biggs are definitely at the top of that second tier for me. Jong coming back from injury needs to be assessed (and we already know he is a player that other clubs are interested in), but Biggs I see as a definite best 22 player.
Smith and Dickson both need to play over 13-14 games to warrant another contract. Both have significant injury/mobility issues and I agree that our 2019 list should contain 1 or none.
Suckling I can see getting another one or two year contract. His placing in the best and fairest shows how he is rated entirely.
Greene should probably be in the second tier, hopefully pushing for a debut by the end of year. Collins, based on reports, seems to have plateaued in the VFL - I'd want a patch of AFL games (or at least pushing with Trengove, Adams and Cordy ahead of him).
westbulldog
03-11-2017, 04:49 PM
Have to like this..........Dale Morris to play on until he's 65
ledge
04-11-2017, 11:14 AM
Have to like this..........Dale Morris to play on until he's 65
I heard a rumour they are looking at a long term deal, Buddyesque like.
bornadog
09-11-2017, 01:33 PM
Macrae extends contract to 2022 - read here (https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?17563-Macrae-commits-to-the-Kennel&p=583663#post583663)
GVGjr
29-12-2017, 09:53 PM
Western Bulldogs Free agents at the end of 2018
Luke Dahlhaus
Tom Liberatore
Dale Morris
Jordan Roughead
Mitch Wallis
How many of them will be at the club at the end of 2018?
Morris will retire but we could lose a couple of the other guys
ledge
30-12-2017, 09:18 AM
Western Bulldogs Free agents at the end of 2018
Luke Dahlhaus
Tom Liberatore
Dale Morris
Jordan Roughead
Mitch Wallis
How many of them will be at the club at the end of 2018?
Morris will retire but we could lose a couple of the other guys
I can't see us losing any unless we decide we don't want them, they are all bulldogs through and through.
Twodogs
30-12-2017, 12:11 PM
I can't see us losing any unless we decide we don't want them, they are all bulldogs through and through.
Libba, Wallis and Roughead all grew up bulldog. I'd be devastated if they chose money over their football club. Only greedy players like Callan Ward would put mammon over their family and club.
Rocco Jones
30-12-2017, 12:54 PM
Luke Dahlhaus- I think less about money and more about how happy he is at the club and how happy we are with him. One of the party boy group members, definitely can bring the intensity and some.
Tom Liberatore- A more extreme version of Dahl.
Dale Morris- I don't write players automatically off due to age. Not all injuries are just due to age and despite the constant interruptions, he is clearly worth a spot on the list. I really don't buy into having to do soooooo much to stay on the list just because you are over 30.
Jordan Roughead- he will re-sign.
Mitch Wallis- he will re-sign.
bulldogtragic
30-12-2017, 01:52 PM
Liberatore the 1st son could be playing with Liberatore the 2nd son in two years potentially. I'd like to think that will focus his attention on doing the required things to stay. Maybe having his little brother at the club might make him take a leadership role as an example to him. My guess is he might and that will ground him into the player we know he can be.
Roughy & Wallis will stay. Dale will retire a club great.
Dahl is the only player I'd entertain a remote amount of time to test the market. The key factors are where we finish, and what the contract is, as to our potential compo. If it's not likely to gain a great pick, then snuff it out and lock him up.
GVGjr
30-12-2017, 02:08 PM
Libba, Wallis and Roughead all grew up bulldog. I'd be devastated if they chose money over their football club. Only greedy players like Callan Ward would put mammon over their family and club.
I think in the unlikely even that they don't play a lot of senior football and get shunted back to Footscray lets see if that theory holds up.
Dry Rot
09-04-2018, 11:58 AM
Dalhaus won't sign a new contract till the end of season
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/dahlhaus-set-to-wait-out-contract-20180409-p4z8ja.html
bulldogsthru&thru
09-04-2018, 12:13 PM
Dalhaus won't sign a new contract till the end of season
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/dahlhaus-set-to-wait-out-contract-20180409-p4z8ja.html
Fair enough. He's testing the market. He's an interesting one to put a price on. Is he easily replaceable? What value-add does he provide? I'd love to keep him but only if the price is right.
ledge
09-04-2018, 02:02 PM
I would say it's managers more than the player nowadays holding back on contracts, we all
Know how that went with a swans premiership player.
It can be very dangerous but some managers like to hold out to the last minute.
bornadog
09-04-2018, 02:18 PM
I would say it's managers more than the player nowadays holding back on contracts, we all
Know how that went with a swans premiership player.
It can be very dangerous but some managers like to hold out to the last minute.
Agree with that, the managers have a lot to answer for.
Example - Sometime ago, Dusty went for an interview at GWS. They asked him who are your heroes, mentors etc. All of Dusty's answers were Richmond people. GWS asked him WTF are you doing here, he said , my manger arranged it. It was clear he didn't really want to be there. Apparently has a shit manager. (I don't know who he is.)
Agree with that, the managers have a lot to answer for.
Example - Sometime ago, Dusty went for an interview at GWS. They asked him who are your heroes, mentors etc. All of Dusty's answers were Richmond people. GWS asked him WTF are you doing here, he said , my manger arranged it. It was clear he didn't really want to be there. Apparently has a shit manager. (I don't know who he is.)
His manager is Ralph Carr - and he isn't your typical football player manager. He's really an entertainment manager.
The managers that only have a handful of players and aren't specialists are usually the ones that these strange scenarios come up with.
1eyedog
09-04-2018, 03:15 PM
Fair enough. He's testing the market. He's an interesting one to put a price on. Is he easily replaceable? What value-add does he provide? I'd love to keep him but only if the price is right.
Very good player with limitations but collateral. Clubs will be into him and we can afford to lose him for the right price.
azabob
09-04-2018, 04:06 PM
Very good player with limitations but collateral. Clubs will be into him and we can afford to lose him for the right price.
What do you mean right price? Isn’t Dahlhaus a free agent of some sort which means chook lotto regarding compensation.
bornadog
09-04-2018, 04:34 PM
I don't think he will be going anywhere. I really like Dahl, he gives 150% and was back to his best on Sunday.
'Club is like my family': Dog wants to stay (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-09/club-is-like-my-family-dog-wants-to-stay)
WESTERN Bulldogs forward Luke Dahlhaus is in no hurry to re-sign with the club, but the free agent says he can't see himself playing anywhere else.
The 25-year-old was one of the Bulldogs' best in the 21-point win over Essendon on Sunday, collecting 31 disposals at an efficiency rate of 74 per cent.
That performance was reminiscent of the form that made Dahlhaus a key member of club's 2016 premiership side, where his pressure around the ball was immense.
A report last month stated the Dogs had offered up Dahlhaus for trade last year after his training standards dropped off in 2017, but the coach Luke Beveridge empathically denied the story and labelled it a "lie".
Dahlhaus joins close mates Tom Liberatore and Shane Biggs on a lengthy list of Bulldogs set to fall out of contract at season's end.
"My manager and the club are still in talks, and it's going to take a little time to get things done," Dahlhaus said on Monday.
"But in saying that, the club is like my family now (because) I've been here eight years and I love it so much, so this is where I want to finish and play for the rest of my days."
When asked about his performance against the Bombers, Dahlhaus conceded he still needs to clean up his disposal by foot.
"I had plenty of the ball but still made a couple of easy mistakes, which I'd like to take back," Dahlhaus said.
"In the end it doesn't really matter in the end because if we get the win I'm pretty happy.
"I'm getting plenty of feedback (on my game), but I'm just trying to build my game.
"The thing I'm trying to work on is my disposal efficiency, and yesterday it wasn't great, but I think I've improved a lot over the past few years and I'm trying to get better and better every day."
Dahlhaus has played 140 games and kicked 108 goals since being selected with pick 22 in the 2011 NAB AFL Rookie Draft.
Dry Rot
16-04-2018, 09:59 PM
What is the contract status of these players at the end of the season?
Campbell
Roberts
Webb
Biggs
Honeychurch
Many of them won't get much opportunity this year, depending upon injuries.
If they are out of contract, will many of them be seeking another club?
If so, what would we get for each? Only fourth rounders?
ledge
17-04-2018, 04:08 AM
What is the contract status of these players at the end of the season?
Campbell
Roberts
Webb
Biggs
Honeychurch
Many of them won't get much opportunity this year, depending upon injuries.
If they are out of contract, will many of them be seeking another club?
If so, what would we get for each? Only fourth rounders?
I guess it depends what's around to replace them , if no players are better than them you will keep them.
Biggs and Roberts I see staying on.
How many do you have to cut every year nowadays?
Hotdog60
17-04-2018, 05:36 AM
I think it is still three although with the change to rookies being able to play who knows it may have changed.
azabob
17-04-2018, 06:57 AM
What is the contract status of these players at the end of the season?
Campbell
Roberts
Webb
Biggs
Honeychurch
Many of them won't get much opportunity this year, depending upon injuries.
If they are out of contract, will many of them be seeking another club?
If so, what would we get for each? Only fourth rounders?
Have a look at page one of this thread.
The Doctor
17-04-2018, 07:24 AM
If Dalhaus gets an offer that would net us a 1st round pick as compensation I'd be taking that in this year's draft.
LostDoggy
17-04-2018, 09:14 AM
If Dalhaus gets an offer that would net us a 1st round pick as compensation I'd be taking that in this year's draft.
Given the general consensus on the quality of this years draft it's hard to see clubs givingup high picks for anything that they don't need badly.
The clubs that may be more likely to trade are those who have extra picks through 2017 future trading. It's interesting to review the list (rounds 1 & 2):
- Adelaide have Melbourne's 1st and Carlton's 2nd (but lost their own 2nd - probably leaving them 3 top 20 picks)
- GCS have WCE's 1st and Essendon and Geelong's 2nd (but lost their own 2nd)
- Carlton traded 2nd rounders with Adelaide (probable nett loss) and gained our 2nd rounder
- Port have StKilda's 2nd rounder,
- Sydney have Collingwood's 2nd,
No other clubs have traded into the 1st and 2nd round without trading out on the same level.
Mantis
17-04-2018, 10:06 AM
Given the general consensus on the quality of this years draft it's hard to see clubs givingup high picks for anything that they don't need badly.
The clubs that may be more likely to trade are those who have extra picks through 2017 future trading. It's interesting to review the list (rounds 1 & 2):
- Adelaide have Melbourne's 1st and Carlton's 2nd (but lost their own 2nd - probably leaving them 3 top 20 picks)
- GCS have WCE's 1st and Essendon and Geelong's 2nd (but lost their own 2nd)
- Carlton traded 2nd rounders with Adelaide (probable nett loss) and gained our 2nd rounder
- Port have StKilda's 2nd rounder,
- Sydney have Collingwood's 2nd,
No other clubs have traded into the 1st and 2nd round without trading out on the same level.
Dahlhaus is a restricted FA so clubs don't need to trade for him, his value will be determined by the offer received.
Cyberdoggie
17-04-2018, 10:12 AM
If he could kick goals he would be worth a lot more.
Mantis
17-04-2018, 10:23 AM
If he could kick goals he would be worth a lot more.
His field kicking is also sub-standard.
Axe Man
17-04-2018, 10:41 AM
If Dalhaus gets an offer that would net us a 1st round pick as compensation I'd be taking that in this year's draft.
Dahlhaus is a restricted FA so clubs don't need to trade for him, his value will be determined by the offer received.
He is actually unrestricted. Motlop got a 4 year deal at Port Adelaide on about $500,000 per season which netted the Cats an end of first round pick. You would think that would be around the mark of offers Dahlhaus would receive. Of course the AFL will probably somehow come up with a third round pick for us.
I can't see other clubs blowing us out of the water contract wise so surely we will keep him if we want to.
Call me old fashioned, but he's not the sort of player I'd consider trading/letting go. And I'm sure he will stay with us for probably a little under what he could maybe get elsewhere.
ledge
17-04-2018, 06:10 PM
Can't see him going anywhere to be honest , just from what I see and his history with us giving him a chance , a premiership when no one else was interested.
Bulldog for life I see
Bulldog4life
18-04-2018, 11:45 AM
Can't see him going anywhere to be honest , just from what I see and his history with us giving him a chance , a premiership when no one else was interested.
Bulldog for life I see
Are you looking in my window Ledge?
bornadog
18-04-2018, 02:48 PM
His field kicking is also sub-standard.
We knew that when we drafted him as a rookie, in fact it was one of the reasons other clubs didn't pick him up.
ledge
18-04-2018, 03:18 PM
We knew that when we drafted him as a rookie, in fact it was one of the reasons other clubs didn't pick him up.
He then had a video made and sent it to clubs showing his kicking had improved.
bornadog
19-04-2018, 02:05 PM
Richards re-signs (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-04-19/richards-resigns)
First year Western Bulldogs defender Ed Richards has signed a two-year contract extension this week, keeping him at the Club until at least the end of the 2021 season.
The speedy Richards has been a revelation across halfback in his first season, averaging 14 disposals, five marks and four tackles over his first three games, where his composure in traffic and ball use has been a feature of his game.
“Ed’s been fantastic from the moment he arrived at the Club,” Bulldogs’ General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power told westernbulldogs.com.au.
“We know he’s quick and uses the footy well, but he’s also a real competitor, which is important at this level.
“The coaching group has been impressed with his professionalism and commitment to get better, and he’s fitting in really well within the playing group.
“We look forward to watching Ed develop as a player and a person at our Club over the next couple of years.”
Richards was taken with the 16th pick of the 2017 NAB AFL Draft.
I like these 2 year extensions for recent draftees who we’ve taken at the top end. Players like Richards and Naughton - it would have to be extraordinary and unforeseen circumstances for us to NOT want them on the list for 4 years - so getting them locked away early I think is a good strategy.
bulldogsthru&thru
19-04-2018, 03:13 PM
I do wonder why Naughton hasn’t signed either. Usually these draftee extensions are announced together. Might be reading too much into it
Eastdog
19-04-2018, 07:27 PM
Great news!
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-04-2018, 07:38 PM
This Tom Boyd deal is going to be the death of us....how the heck can we hope to re-sign our young tale....oh.what?? Richards you say?? 2 year extension..hmm..ok...umm carry on then. As you were.
G-Mo77
20-04-2018, 06:57 PM
I do wonder why Naughton hasn’t signed either. Usually these draftee extensions are announced together. Might be reading too much into it
Players aren't kicking to him so he'll leave first chance. :)
Axe Man
27-04-2018, 08:53 AM
Stating the obvious...
Western Bulldogs must try to re-sign Marcus Bontempelli before contract expires in 2019 (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/western-bulldogs-must-try-to-resign-marcus-bontempelli-before-contract-expires-in-2019/news-story/e7907764540bb8af4f653fe6908c2371)
THE retention battle at the Western Bulldogs was always going to be tricky.
When you win a flag, every young gun in the team wants a lick of the ice cream.
Especially with four free agents, including premiership stars Luke Dahlhaus and Jordan Roughead — out of contract at the end of this season.
But for new Dogs’ list manager Sam Power, one man stands above all others as the absolute priority re-signing at the kennel.
It’s captain-in-waiting, Marcus Bontempelli.
We’ve talked a lot about Tom Boyd’s $1 million-a-year deal and the spearhead played a vital role in a premiership.
But there is little doubt Bontempelli should command the best part of the same mountainous seven-figure salary on his next contract.
The challenge for Power is to re-sign him to a new deal this year, before Bontempelli’s contract expires at the end of next season, when every club in the competition will come for him.
Other than Dustin Martin or Tom Lynch, if you had to pick out one player from the schoolyard line-up to start up a new team, who would you take?
At 22, ‘Bonti’s’ right up there for his versatility, ballwinning, class and leadership.
But you could be forgiven for thinking the Dogs’ vice-captain has become something of a forgotten superstar in 2018.
From five games this year, he is yet to poll a single coach’s vote.
His Brownlow Medal odds have blown out from $9 to $51 with TAB.
He was tipped to take the competition by storm in his fifth season, but on paper, it would look as if the brilliant Dog’s game has stagnated.
The clearance king has averaged 20 disposals a game this season.
It’s a modest figure and his lowest tally since his stunning first season when Bontempelli was narrowly pipped by Lewis Taylor for the Rising Star award.
He is better than that, we know. Twenty touches is only average by Champion Data’s midfield standards and he has not had the influence on games he probably would have liked.
But the numbers don’t tell the full story.
In part, Bontempelli has sacrificed large parts of his own game for the benefit of his young teammates.
They have been the youngest and least-experienced team in the competition every round this season, the Dogs.
But where the No.4 draft pick could try and kick-chase and rack up bigger numbers in the midfield, Bontempelli has played 37 per cent of his game time forward — the most since 2014 — to help cover some of the club’s key forward deficiencies early in the season.
He has shouldered a huge load in the engine room without injured teammate Tom Liberatore, and Bontempelli’s touches have always been quality over quantity.
But to boost the value of his next contract, he’s probably better to hold off, for now. He’s capable of becoming the best player in the league, but the team’s form has undoubtedly impacted his own.
Remember his 14 kicks in the 2016 Grand Final triumph all hit the target. And he is one of only four AFL players to come off successive best and fairest wins.
On Friday night against Carlton, he will attempt to arrest the Western Bulldogs’ slide, having started the season at 1-4.
And he will lock horns with another one of the league’s top on-ballers, and future captain, Patrick Cripps. Where Bontempelli’s form has perhaps fluctuated in recent times, the Blues’ ball magnet is in career-best nick.
It’s a head-to-head battle which should flourish over the next decade and the Dogs must ensure their man stays in red white and blue.
bornadog
27-04-2018, 09:00 AM
The most important position in AFL football (in my opinion) is playing midfield and that is where The Bont should be playing a large percentage of his game time. Forget this BS Bevo, if we can't get the ball into the the forward line then we won't kick goals anyway.
bornadog
07-05-2018, 08:04 PM
The Western Bulldogs and Luke Dahlhaus have suffered an early hiccup in contract talks (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/the-western-bulldogs-and-luke-dahlhaus-have-suffered-an-early-hiccup-in-contract-talks/news-story/3332ba4b3aa937ab112fccc2079ddaa4)
THE WESTERN Bulldogs are confident of retaining onballer Luke Dahlhaus despite an early hiccup in contract talks.
The Herald Sun understands the Dahlhaus camp is seeking a long-term contract as a reward for his eight years of service.
The Bulldogs would prefer to re-sign Dahlhaus on a shorter deal. The two parties have met twice and are yet to seriously discuss the financial component of his next contract.
Dahlhaus, 25, becomes an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season but is a required player at Whitten Oval.
His status means Dahlhaus can walk to another club without the Dogs being given the opportunity to match a rival offer.
The ball magnet recently voiced his strong desire to play out his career at Whitten Oval.
“My manager and the club are still in talks, and it’s going to take a little time to get things done,” Dahlhaus said last month.
“But in saying that, the club is like my family now. I’ve been here eight years and I love it so much, so this is where I want to finish and play for the rest of my days.”
Dahlhaus qualifies for unrestricted free agency as a result of the mega contract Tom Boyd signed.
The Dogs significantly front-ended Dahlhaus’s current deal to accommodate Boyd’s salary.
Dahlhaus’s first year was his richest and he will take home the fewest amount of dollars in 2018.
That means he sits outside the club’s top 25 per cent of money earners this year, earning him unrestricted free agency.
Dahlhaus has traditionally recommitted early in the year but is happy to wait before inking his next deal.
Dahlhaus has not spoken to any other club and the durable midfielder has missed just six games since 2012.
Dahlhaus finished outside the top 10 in last year’s best-and-fairest for the first time since he became a regular in the Bulldogs team.
Dahlhaus made his debut in 2011 and then finished fourth in 2012, sixth in 2013, fourth in 2014 and 2015 and sixth in the 2016 premiership season before taking a tumble last year.
Dahlhaus received one coach’s vote in both the Round 3 and Round 7 wins this year.
The tough midfielder has only kicked 1.3 this season but collected 29 disposals in Saturday’s win against Gold Coast.
bulldogtragic
07-05-2018, 08:37 PM
Geez if that Tom Boyd mega contract doesn't get a scalp soon I'll offer myself up.
Axe Man
08-05-2018, 11:04 AM
I wonder how far the club and Dahl are apart on contract length? I'm guessing Dahl might want 4 years and the club may only want to give him 2? I reckon 3 years would be a fair term.
bulldogtragic
08-05-2018, 11:51 AM
I wonder how far the club and Dahl are apart on contract length? I'm guessing Dahl might want 4 years and the club may only want to give him 2? I reckon 3 years would be a fair term.
Devils advocate, say you're right. The gap is just a tiny year. By letting the media promote that there's a chance for clubs to get him, might we be seeing what unofficial chats come into Sam Power's sphere. And maybe the debate internally, is not just the third year, but whether there's some first round compo in a super draft? Then it's a much bigger decision. Being the DA of course.
The Doctor
08-05-2018, 11:52 AM
I think a 3 year term on reasonable coin is fair. He would be 28 when that expires and there would be the genuine possibility of him getting another good contract then if he plays consistently well during the next contract term.
If he's looking for a longer term or JJ type money then I think he will, and should have, a problem with the club. I don't think his form since 2016 warrants a huge contract. If another club offers it then he would have to consider it. Carlton and Essendon might be willing? If so, we may benefit greatly from the compensation.
In any case, i hope everyone is sensible and he stays.
bornadog
09-05-2018, 10:25 AM
Mark Stevens @Stevo7AFL (https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL)
(https://twitter.com/Stevo7AFL/status/993976538801434627)
Dialogue open and “bubbling” along on new deal for Marcus Bontempelli, according to Dogs CEO Ameet Bains ... indicates intent positive .
bornadog
09-05-2018, 10:29 AM
Marcus Bontempelli contract latest: Western Bulldogs open ‘pleasing’ discussions regarding extension (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/marcus-bontempelli-contract-latest-western-bulldogs-open-pleasing-discussions-regarding-extension/news-story/f6e11bf24ad0f581727cc681e5fd42e1)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/cxresources/OTUyMDE4MHxjeG8uYXxodHRwczovL2Nkbi5uZXdzYXBpLmNvbS5hdS9pbWFn ZS92MS9hN2ZmOWVmMjNjMDBmMThhOGQxNmQ1Nzg3N2YyMjc3MXw5NTIwMTgw Mrcus Bontempelli has opened contract talks with the Western Bulldogs.
Source: AAP
THE Western Bulldogs have made contact with Marcus Bontempelli regarding extending his contract beyond 2019, with the club describing the initial talks as “pleasing”.
Bontempelli will be a free agent at the end of next season, with the Bulldogs understandably keen to lock away the young star before he enters the final year of his contract.
The Dogs have been proactive in ensuring the talented 22-year-old extends his stay at the Kennell, with chief executive Ameet Bains providing an update on his status on Wednesday.
“Sam Power, our head of list and recruiting, has been in contact with (Bontempelli’s manager) Tom Petroro and discussions continue to bubble along,” Bains told RSN’s Breakfast Club.
“The most pleasing part of that, regardless of how long it takes from here, is that there’s an intent to get it done. That’s a great reflection of where the club’s at and where it’s going.”
Bontempelli missed last weekend’s clash with Gold Coast due to a hip injury, with the gun midfielder still touch and go as to whether he’ll be fit for the side’s Round 8 clash.
The Dogs face the Lions at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night, with the club likely to play it safe with Bontempelli should he not make it through Thursday’s final training session.
“He needs to get through training on Thursday, but Bevo said at his press conference that it won’t be a sit-and-wait decision like it was last week,” Bains said.
“If he doesn’t train fully on Thursday, he won’t play. But we are hopeful that he’ll get through.”
bornadog
24-05-2018, 12:21 PM
Cordy new 3 year deal
Eastdog
24-05-2018, 12:23 PM
Great news!
bulldogtragic
24-05-2018, 12:24 PM
Cordy new 3 year deal
I'm so happy I'm crying.
Eastdog
24-05-2018, 12:25 PM
I'm so happy I'm crying.
You would be over the moon BT.
hujsh
24-05-2018, 01:12 PM
Cordy signs on for 3 more
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-05-24/extension-for-cordy
Cyberdoggie
24-05-2018, 01:38 PM
Excellent news,
Cordy has been fantastic this year. Really throws himself into a contest no matter what the score is.
Remi Moses
24-05-2018, 01:41 PM
Excellent news
Twodogs
24-05-2018, 02:14 PM
I'm so happy I'm crying.
Street party?
Twodogs
24-05-2018, 02:22 PM
21, 001st post!
Great news, now let's get the Bonts deal done.
Eastdog
24-05-2018, 02:44 PM
21, 001st post!
Well done Twodogs! Fine effort!
Eastdog
24-05-2018, 02:45 PM
Zaine kicked our first goal in the 2016 grand final.
craigsahibee
24-05-2018, 02:54 PM
Zaine kicked our first goal in the 2016 grand final.
And what a delightful kick it was. Personally, I didn't give him a snowballs chance in hell.
bulldogtragic
24-05-2018, 02:59 PM
21, 001st post!
21,012th post! Ner! :D
You're slacking off TD... :D
Queue BAD and his 34,790th.
bornadog
24-05-2018, 03:17 PM
21,012th post! Ner! :D
You're slacking off TD... :D
Queue BAD and his 34,790th.
Go Cordy
Twodogs
24-05-2018, 03:35 PM
21,012th post! Ner! :D
You're slacking off TD... :D
Queue BAD and his 34,790th.
It's 'cue' I think. Like with a pool cue.
I was going to stretch this post out X 12 but I just couldn't be *!*!*!*!ed! Although I can probably just adjust post numbers myself now that I think about it.
Twodogs
24-05-2018, 03:43 PM
And what a delightful kick it was. Personally, I didn't give him a snowballs chance in hell.
As I watched it sail through I thought it might be our day though.
I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
24-05-2018, 04:38 PM
I like his attitude he has a strut
Twodogs
24-05-2018, 06:33 PM
I like his attitude he has a strut
I like tgat he genuinely doesn't seemed stressed about hurting somebody that gets between him and the ball. Not many players, it's not enjoy-Zaine doesn't take great enjoyment out of hurting someone-but he doesn't sit around worrying about it either.
bornadog
06-06-2018, 05:31 PM
Rehab first, then contract talks for Libba (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-06/rehab-first-then-contract-talks-for-libba)
THE WESTERN Bulldogs will ramp up contract talks with free agent Tom Liberatore later in the season as he continues his recovery from a second knee reconstruction.
The premiership midfielder went down with the injury in round one after a strong pre-season following a disappointing 2017 campaign.
The 26-year-old falls out of contract at the end of the season, but the Dogs' new list manager Sam Power told AFL.com.au's Road to the Draft podcast that the club's focus has been Liberatore's recovery.
"We're having constant discussions with Tom, and the priority for Tom, which the club and his management agreed, was to really focus on his rehab in that initial phase," Power said.
"To Tom's credit he's attacked it really well so far, so we'll get to that in terms of deeper discussions at the appropriate time in the back half of the year."
Liberatore, who has played 117 games for the Dogs, missed the entire 2015 season with a reconstruction to his other knee. Power was reluctant to put a timeline on when discussions would intensify.
"We'll just keep assessing it. It's been purely [about] getting his rehab right, getting him feeling really comfortable and back into the club," he said.
"Obviously when he first did the knee he was away resting for a period of the time. He's back in at the club now and is getting into more training.
"It's one that, again, [we're] in constant communications with his manager and everyone's really comfortable with where it's at."
Liberatore is one of several free agents on the Dogs' list this year, alongside Luke Dahlhaus and Dale Morris as unrestricted agents. Jordan Roughead and Mitch Wallis qualify as restricted free agents.
Power provided an update on the status of the out-of-contract players on the Road to the Draft podcast, and also touched on the future of star Bulldog Marcus Bontempelli.
Bontempelli is signed through to the end of 2019, but initial talks have opened to extend his stay ahead of the start of next season.
"It's all been really positive at this stage. Obviously, they can take a while and given he isn't out until the end of next year, there's no real rush right at the moment.
"But in saying that it's all been really positive and all the indications from both parties have been really good," Power said.
Topdog
07-06-2018, 09:55 AM
Seems like we are finally taking a hard line with the players
Axe Man
14-06-2018, 10:12 AM
Naughton re-signs (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-06-14/naughton-resigns)
Promising young Western Bulldogs defender Aaron Naughton has extended his contract with the Club.
The 18-year-old, who has impressed in his debut season so far, will remain at the Bulldogs until at least the end of the 2020 season.
“We had no hesitation in working on a contract extension for Aaron, and we’re excited to get it locked away at this point of his debut season,” said Bulldogs General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power.
“The way he has tackled the task of integrating into the club, working hard on the training track, winning a spot in the team and holding his own against some of the best forwards in the competition has been very impressive.
“We’re looking forward to seeing Aaron continue to improve as his career progresses at the Bulldogs.”
Naughton, from Western Australia, was taken with pick nine in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft and has made an immediate impact at VU Whitten Oval, making his debut in the opening round of the season.
He played eight straight matches as a key defender, averaging 11 disposals and four marks per game, with injury restricting him since Round 9.
The Club’s second choice in last year’s National Draft, Ed Richards, also extended his contract earlier this season.
bornadog
14-06-2018, 02:51 PM
Old Dog opens talks to stay at the Kennel (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-14/veteran-dog-opens-talks-to-stay-at-the-kennel)
The Doctor
14-06-2018, 03:16 PM
Old Dog opens talks to stay at the Kennel (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-14/veteran-dog-opens-talks-to-stay-at-the-kennel)
1 Year me thinks
FrediKanoute
14-06-2018, 03:52 PM
I'd go 2 on current form, but the second with games played and form incentives
GVGjr
14-06-2018, 08:48 PM
Old Dog opens talks to stay at the Kennel (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-14/veteran-dog-opens-talks-to-stay-at-the-kennel)
I hope we can get him signed, based on his performances this year he might still have his best football in front of him.
bornadog
14-06-2018, 11:02 PM
I hope we can get him signed, based on his performances this year he might still have his best football in front of him.
I love watching his kicking, he was really missed tonight.
bornadog
19-07-2018, 08:48 PM
Mclean signs on (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-07-19/mclean-signs-on)
Western Bulldogs midfielder Toby McLean has signed a three-year contract extension to remain at VU Whitten Oval.
The 22-year-old, who was due to come out of contract at the end of the 2019 season, has committed to the Club until at least the end of the 2022 season.
McLean has been a shining light for the Bulldogs this season, playing every game so far and averaging 25 disposals and six tackles per game, as well as kicking nine goals.
He is second at the Club for average tackles, third for average disposals and clearances and fourth for average inside 50s and contested possessions.
“It’s fantastic for Toby and the Club that we were able to secure him for an extra three years,” said Bulldogs’ General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power.
“The improvement we’ve seen in Toby’s game has been great to watch. He has established himself as a tough and courageous inside midfielder with an ability to impact in the forward half.
“Pleasingly for us, his best years are well and truly ahead of him, and we look forward to seeing him continue to improve his game.”
McLean is in his fourth season at the Bulldogs, after being selected with the Club’s first selection (pick 26) in the 2014 NAB AFL Draft.
“I was really excited when they came to me and said they wanted to sign me. For it to be another four years, I’m stoked,” McLean said.
“The Club has really looked after me. The people around the place is what really drives you to be the player and the person that you are.”
bornadog
24-07-2018, 09:37 AM
Let's turn this into a long contract extension:
"I'm so committed to the Western Bulldogs Football Club, for me that doesn't even enter my thought process."
Marcus Bontempelli on other potential offers through his manager
bulldogsthru&thru
24-07-2018, 09:57 AM
Let's turn this into a long contract extension:
When was that said?
bornadog
24-07-2018, 10:13 AM
When was that said?
This morning on his stint on RSN radio. I will put up the audio as soon as I can.
Edit: listen here (https://t.co/ORaMlvo3Ok)
Until he signs something words dont mean jack. I'll be pretty worried if nothing happens this season.
bulldogsthru&thru
24-07-2018, 11:42 AM
Until he signs something words dont mean jack. I'll be pretty worried if nothing happens this season.
I agree. Words do mean jack. But that was pretty emphatic. Agree though, he should be signed up by the end of the year. If he isn't as we enter next season we'll be in a spot of bother
ledge
24-07-2018, 01:22 PM
We should have learnt from the Ward debacle.
ledge
24-07-2018, 01:51 PM
The comment about leaders leaving .. Well it worked for us when Griffen left.
I think Bont got it right with you can't use the same brush on everything, it's all individual needs and processes.
A player who knows he is good enough to get a contract against a player who doesn't know if he will get another contract are completely different scenarios also.
bornadog
24-07-2018, 02:07 PM
We should have learnt from the Ward debacle.
Hope so, that one was bad list management
Axe Man
25-07-2018, 02:43 PM
Good news, hopefully he can get his Achilles right.
Suckling re-signs (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-07-25/suckling-resigns)
Matthew Suckling has signed a one-year contract extension, keeping him at Victoria University Whitten Oval until at least the end of the 2019 season.
The 30-year-old was lured from Hawthorn with a three-year deal back in October 2015, and notched his 50th game in Bulldogs colours in Round 11 this season against the Demons.
Suckling has averaged 21.9 disposals and 4.9 marks per game since arriving as an unrestricted free agent and has posted a career-high 24.5 disposals over 11 matches this season.
“Matthew is a key member of our group and we’re really excited to have secured him for another season,” said Bulldogs’ General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power.
“He’s had some injuries in the past month but he was in career best form this year before that, and we’ve got no doubt that when he returns he will continue to have a major influence on games this year and going forward.
“As one of our more experienced players, Matt’s presence around the Club is really important for our young group as they continue to develop as players and people.”
Sucking is in his 10th AFL season after being rookie listed by Hawthorn with the 22nd pick of the 2007 AFL Rookie Draft.
He went on to play 102 games for the Hawks and was a member of their 2014 and 2015 premiership teams.
bornadog
25-07-2018, 04:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Di7VjYxW0AMm4E8.jpg
GVGjr
25-07-2018, 06:08 PM
Fantastic news, he had a good year and deserves a contract. I had plenty of doubt about him last year but it just goes to show that even players of his age can continue to improve.
bulldogtragic
25-07-2018, 06:15 PM
I wonder if his Achilles hadn't been mismanaged whether he would've got two years.
Happy to have him run again in 2019.
bornadog
25-07-2018, 07:33 PM
I wonder if his Achilles hadn't been mismanaged whether he would've got two years.
Happy to have him run again in 2019.
How do you know it is mismanaged?
azabob
25-07-2018, 07:54 PM
How do you know it is mismanaged?
I just got my crystal ball back from the shop and I know BTs response-
How do you know it wasn’t? ;):D
bulldogtragic
25-07-2018, 07:56 PM
How do you know it is mismanaged?
Call it a hunch if you prefer. He's 9 minutes off playing, now he probably won't play again this year. That to me strongly indicates a lack of sufficient management, aka mismanagement. That might not be a enough 'direct evidence' for some jurors, but I'm satisfied that there's enough 'circumstantial evidence' for me to return my jurors vote as guilty.
bulldogtragic
25-07-2018, 07:56 PM
I just got my crystal ball back from the shop and I know BTs response-
How do you know it wasn’t? ;):D
Actually, this! :D
Sedat
25-07-2018, 09:05 PM
Call it a hunch if you prefer. He's 9 minutes off playing, now he probably won't play again this year. That to me strongly indicates a lack of sufficient management, aka mismanagement. That might not be a enough 'direct evidence' for some jurors, but I'm satisfied that there's enough 'circumstantial evidence' for me to return my jurors vote as guilty.
Just unlucky
ratsmac
25-07-2018, 09:11 PM
I'm really happy pig signed on for another season. He was probably our best player behind Macrae before his achilles shit itself.
EasternWest
25-07-2018, 09:23 PM
Grumble grumble.
Axe Man
27-07-2018, 09:53 AM
Call it a hunch if you prefer. He's 9 minutes off playing, now he probably won't play again this year. That to me strongly indicates a lack of sufficient management, aka mismanagement. That might not be a enough 'direct evidence' for some jurors, but I'm satisfied that there's enough 'circumstantial evidence' for me to return my jurors vote as guilty.
If I'm ever wrongfully accused of murder I hope to god you aren't on the jury.
Bulldog Revolution
05-08-2018, 05:41 PM
I'm really happy pig signed on for another season. He was probably our best player behind Macrae before his achilles shit itself.
He was having his best season - and we've really missed his presence on field as the seasons gone on
ledge
05-08-2018, 07:20 PM
Hopefully he can recover , Brad Johnson retired because of an achillies.
bulldogtragic
14-08-2018, 09:36 PM
Luke Beveridge: 2020
Recruiter: TBA
List Manager: TBA
Jordan Roughead: 2018 (FA)
Luke Dahl: 2018 (FA)
Mitch Wallis: 2018 (FA)
Tom Liberatore: 2018 (FA)
Dale Morris: 2018 (FA)
Lin Jong: 2018
Shane Biggs: 2018
Tory Dickson: 2018
Keiran Collins: 2018
Mitch Honeychurch: 2018
Tom Campbell: 2018
Roarke Smith: 2018 (Rookie)
Bradley Lynch: 2018 (Rookie)
Nathan Mc-Mc: 2018 (Rookie)
Bill Gowers: 2018 (Rookie)
Marcus Bontempelli: 2019
Lachie Hunter: 2019
Matt Suckling: 2019
Caleb Daniel: 2019
Liam Picken: 2019
Bailey Williams: 2019
Fergus Greene: 2019
Lewis Young: 2019
Josh Dunkley: 2019
Fletch Roberts: 2019
Bailey Dale: 2019
Lukas Webb: 2019
Jack Redpath: 2019
Callum Porter: 2019
Aaron Naughton: 2020
Tim English: 2020
Pat Lipinski: 2020
Marcus Adams: 2020
Easton Wood: 2020
Tom Boyd: 2021
Ed Richards: 2021
Zaine Cordy: 2021
JJ: 2022
Jack Macrae: 2022
Toby McLean: 2022
With Greene re-signing, it’s getting interesting with two games left to prove to deserve a contract or bigger contract.
Happy Days
14-08-2018, 10:49 PM
Hopefully he can recover , Brad Johnson retired because of an achillies.
I was under the impression that he was pushed into retirement.
By a golf cart.
Smads57
24-08-2018, 07:02 PM
Not sure where to post this news, but Ch7 reporting Redpath wants to retire.
bulldogtragic
24-08-2018, 07:04 PM
Not sure where to post this news, but Ch7 reporting Redpath wants to retire.
Best to let him. Unfortunately his body just couldn't hold up to the rigors of AFL footy.
azabob
24-08-2018, 07:09 PM
Best to let him. Unfortunately his body just couldn't hold up to the rigors of AFL footy.
Injuries?
bulldogtragic
24-08-2018, 07:12 PM
Injuries?
Yep.
ledge
24-08-2018, 07:25 PM
Not sure where to post this news, but Ch7 reporting Redpath wants to retire.
Wants to retire ? How do you stop someone who wants retire ?
bulldogtragic
24-08-2018, 07:26 PM
With respect to Redders, I hope like *!*!*!*! Macrae is in the leadership group next year.
bornadog
24-08-2018, 08:33 PM
Not sure where to post this news, but Ch7 reporting Redpath wants to retire.
There is a delisting retirement thread
ratsmac
24-08-2018, 08:34 PM
With respect to Redders, I hope like *!*!*!*! Macrae is in the leadership group next year.
And Wallis
AshMac
27-08-2018, 06:02 AM
And Wallis
Definitely Wally. Macrae reminds me of Griffen, an elite player with zero desire to lead or take on extra responsibility who doesn’t get involved in the in-club social side.
ledge
27-08-2018, 04:33 PM
Definitely Wally. Macrae reminds me of Griffen, an elite player with zero desire to lead or take on extra responsibility who doesn’t get involved in the in-club social side.
That’s looking from the outside ,, I’ve heard he is extremely good on the field and takes the young ones under his wing.
AshMac
27-08-2018, 05:40 PM
That’s looking from the outside ,, I’ve heard he is extremely good on the field and takes the young ones under his wing.
I’m sure the club is delighted with him overall but there has to be a reason why he wasn’t in the Leadership group this year when he’s one of a handful of players who has been in consistent form over the last 2 years, and considering the group that was chosen.
Mantis
27-08-2018, 05:44 PM
I’m sure the club is delighted with him overall but there has to be a reason why he wasn’t in the Leadership group this year when he’s one of a handful of players who has been in consistent form over the last 2 years, and considering the group that was chosen.
I’m not sure the ‘consistent form’ line is correct considering he’s been dropped 3 or 4 times over the past 2 years.
AshMac
27-08-2018, 05:53 PM
I’m not sure the ‘consistent form’ line is correct considering he’s been dropped 3 or 4 times over the past 2 years.
He played 22 games in 2017 (3rd in B&F) and 19 this year (injured for a month). Are you thinking of the McCartney years? He was dropped a few times then because (I believe) he wasn’t running both ways or applying enough pressure on players when he was out of the contest.
GVGjr
27-08-2018, 06:03 PM
He played 22 games in 2017 (3rd in B&F) and 19 this year (injured for a month). Are you thinking of the McCartney years? He was dropped a few times then because (I believe) he wasn’t running both ways or applying enough pressure on players when he was out of the contest.
I think he was dropped in 2016 under Bevo and the same with B-Mac two years earlier
AshMac
27-08-2018, 06:15 PM
I think he was dropped in 2016 under Bevo and the same with B-Mac two years earlier
You made me curious, so I checked and he played every game in 2016 until he went down against the cats in rd19 (which we would have won if him and Libba didn’t go down). Then he returned for the elimination final.
Mantis
27-08-2018, 06:17 PM
He played 22 games in 2017 (3rd in B&F) and 19 this year (injured for a month). Are you thinking of the McCartney years? He was dropped a few times then because (I believe) he wasn’t running both ways or applying enough pressure on players when he was out of the contest.
I’m talking about Wallis, you’re obviously talking about Macrae.
No issues with Macrae being in the leadership group if selected.
AshMac
27-08-2018, 06:25 PM
I’m talking about Wallis, you’re obviously talking about Macrae.
No issues with Macrae being in the leadership group if selected.
Oh. You replied to my post about macrae so assumed you meant him.
Bulldog4life
28-08-2018, 06:21 PM
I’m sure the club is delighted with him overall but there has to be a reason why he wasn’t in the Leadership group this year when he’s one of a handful of players who has been in consistent form over the last 2 years, and considering the group that was chosen.
The leadership group is decided by the players.
bornadog
29-08-2018, 03:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlvhUmzUcAAbe9m.jpg
read here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-08-29/morris-locked-in-for-2019)
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Dlvc2GUU8AAFOqD.jpg
EasternWest
29-08-2018, 03:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlvhUmzUcAAbe9m.jpg
read here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-08-29/morris-locked-in-for-2019)
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Dlvc2GUU8AAFOqD.jpg
2nd greatest Bulldog ever imo. Ha can play forever as far as I'm concerned.
Murphy'sLore
29-08-2018, 03:24 PM
Brokeback hero :)
Eastdog
29-08-2018, 03:28 PM
Great news!
Jeanette54
29-08-2018, 04:27 PM
So good to know that we can continue to enjoy watching him for another year.
Dale is very definitely the thinking woman's player of choice.
ratsmac
29-08-2018, 04:48 PM
Moz is Awesome!
AshMac
29-08-2018, 05:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlvhUmzUcAAbe9m.jpg
read here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-08-29/morris-locked-in-for-2019)
https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Dlvc2GUU8AAFOqD.jpg
great news! I could swear his closing speed got faster this year.
AshMac
30-08-2018, 01:22 PM
Know this is player thread, so sorry if wrong spot - just seen Ratten has gone to the saints. Was dead keen on him joining the dogs.
Cyberdoggie
30-08-2018, 01:57 PM
So good to know that we can continue to enjoy watching him for another year.
Dale is very definitely the thinking woman's player of choice.
My wife just has other thoughts about Dale, none of which I can list on here.
She is very happy he is playing another year.
bornadog
30-08-2018, 04:56 PM
Smith signs on - read here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-08-30/smith-signs-on)
Can we re -rookie him? Not sure how this works
hujsh
30-08-2018, 05:29 PM
Poor list management IMO. I'd be waiting until the trade and maybe draft period is done before signing him again.
Axe Man
30-08-2018, 05:49 PM
Smith signs on - read here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-08-30/smith-signs-on)
Can we re -rookie him? Not sure how this works
Not sure. He was already on the rookie list for the maximum 3 years from 2015-2017. At the end of last year we had to delist him and re-draft him in the rookie draft. Unsure if he has reset as a rookie and this counts as his second year? I would have let him go but I hope at least he isn't taking a primary list spot, the article is unclear.
ratsmac
30-08-2018, 05:58 PM
Yay!
So Wallis and Dahl might being leaving but we secured Smith's signature.....Riiiiggghhtt.
I hope we have an amazing trade week and land a couple of gems through the draft because this makes me very nervous.
bulldogtragic
30-08-2018, 06:14 PM
F.M.D.
By the language, I think we have re-signed him to his rookie contract. I would expect to read that we have 'elevated' him to the senior list of that's what we've done. Why would we do either, I don't know. He looks like he trains hard and buys in, but there's a massive lack of any accomplishment on field. NMM should've taken up skate boarding.
Now just give Honeychurch a three year deal and this embolism in my chest can finally explode.
DOG GOD
30-08-2018, 06:33 PM
Surely not
azabob
30-08-2018, 06:41 PM
We shouldn’t be surprised Smith was given another year considering he played most games when fit in the second half of the season.
bulldogsthru&thru
30-08-2018, 06:44 PM
I’m happy to have Smith in the rookie list. He should provide more than a prospective rookie pick would. You never know of course but I’m fine with it.
GVGjr
30-08-2018, 06:49 PM
I’m happy to have Smith in the rookie list. He should provide more than a prospective rookie pick would. You never know of course but I’m fine with it.
I can't see how is he a rookie, I think he is now on the senior list
G-Mo77
30-08-2018, 06:58 PM
I can't see how is he a rookie, I think he is now on the senior list
I don't think he can unless we delist and then redraft. He's on our senior list now. Not sure how I feel about that.
hujsh
30-08-2018, 07:03 PM
I’m happy to have Smith in the rookie list. He should provide more than a prospective rookie pick would. You never know of course but I’m fine with it.
A rookie could be anything. They could be a total flop or a breakout success. Smith is at best on shown ability a fringe backup player. I'd kind of prefer the gamble if I'm thinking about the long term.
bulldogtragic
30-08-2018, 07:09 PM
A rookie could be anything. They could be a total flop or a breakout success. Smith is at best on shown ability a fringe backup player. I'd kind of prefer the gamble if I'm thinking about the long term.
Ditto. We could get a NMM or a Gowers in lieu of Smith. Id take that bet. If Smith has a main list spot with very little to show why he deserves it, then Power doesn't hold dear how important a main list spot really is. Smith looks like a really good human being, but he's not an AFL standard player.
bornadog
30-08-2018, 10:41 PM
F.M.D.
By the language, I think we have re-signed him to his rookie contract. I would expect to read that we have 'elevated' him to the senior list of that's what we've done. Why would we do either, I don't know. He looks like he trains hard and buys in, but there's a massive lack of any accomplishment on field. NMM should've taken up skate boarding.
Now just give Honeychurch a three year deal and this embolism in my chest can finally explode.
I watched the replay of the first and last quarter of the Richmond match and in particular concentrated on Smith. Although he made a couple of disposal errors, overall he contributed well. eg: Nice handball to Greene for him to get a goal.
Let's see how he goes before some of us put the knife in.
jeemak
30-08-2018, 11:07 PM
I watched the replay of the first and last quarter of the Richmond match and in particular concentrated on Smith. Although he made a couple of disposal errors, overall he contributed well. eg: Nice handball to Greene for him to get a goal.
Let's see how he goes before some of us put the knife in.
I did the same. There was a clear handling error that cost us, but apart from that he was fine - in light of his experience.
The guy has just come off two years of knee injuries, essentially missing the most important part of his development as a league footballer. The fact he is polarising to fans, probably suggests given the previous mentioned issues having him around with hopefully some continuity, isn't such a bad thing.
He may not ever be first 22 (full compliment) as a walk up, but neither was the likes of Suckling and many of the - at the time - ordinary Hawthorn premiership players over the years. If we think we are genuine finals contenders next year (which is what we should be aiming for), and Roarke can add reliable depth as he improves then I don't see what the issue is. He will definitely work hard and add more than pretty much anyone we're likely to pick after our pick ten (or 22, depending on how high the AFL want to get on *!*!*!*!ing the draft) and Rhylee's eventual pick.
We as fans throw ourselves about the place too often when it comes to list management. If we thought there's better on our list or prospects coming onto the list in the near term who could perform better than Roarke in the specific roles we need him filling then he wouldn't have been signed.
Time will tell, but in this context Roarke is probably the safest bet for a final list spot.
AshMac
31-08-2018, 05:54 AM
Smith has the physical attributes of a good football which you cant learn. He falls down with his decision making or lack of awareness which is really obvious and often costly - though these are two things you can learn. Doubt hes a 200 gamer but dont mind another year to see if improvement is there.
The interesting one for me now is Lucas Webb. Loved him in his first few games, lights it up regularly at Footscray but just cant click in the seniors. His roles; HBF - taken by JJ, Crozier, Wood, Richards ec and the Inside Mid by Libba, Dunkley, Wally and next year West. I think he is a Bailey Dale; 5-6 games in a row and it might click, he just might not get the chance.
EasternWest
31-08-2018, 11:47 AM
Posted elsewhere.
craigsahibee
31-08-2018, 12:35 PM
The Age is reporting that Wallis and Libba are about to re-commit to the club. Good News.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/still-sons-of-the-west-mitch-wallis-and-tom-liberatore-to-sign-on-20180830-p500up.html
bulldogtragic
31-08-2018, 02:17 PM
Luke Beveridge: 2020
Recruiter: TBA
List Manager: TBA
Jordan Roughead: 2018 (FA) (rumoured leave)
Luke Dahl: 2018 (FA) (rumoured leave)
Mitch Wallis: 2018 (FA) (rumoured stay)
Tom Liberatore: 2018 (FA) (rumoured stay)
Lin Jong: 2018
Tory Dickson: 2018 (rumoured stay)
Mitch Honeychurch: 2018
Tom Campbell: 2018
Bradley Lynch: 2018 (Rookie)
Bill Gowers: 2018 (Rookie) (rumoured upgrade)
Marcus Bontempelli: 2019
Lachie Hunter: 2019
Matt Suckling: 2019
Caleb Daniel: 2019
Liam Picken: 2019
Bailey Williams: 2019
Fergus Greene: 2019
Lewis Young: 2019
Josh Dunkley: 2019
Fletch Roberts: 2019
Bailey Dale: 2019
Lukas Webb: 2019
Callum Porter: 2019
Dale Morris: 2019 (FA)
Roarke Smith: 2019 (rookie)
Aaron Naughton: 2020
Tim English: 2020
Pat Lipinski: 2020
Marcus Adams: 2020
Easton Wood: 2020
Tom Boyd: 2021
Ed Richards: 2021
Zaine Cordy: 2021
JJ: 2022
Jack Macrae: 2022
Toby McLean: 2022
If you're new to the thread I update the opening post as ready Reckoner with every list management coming and going.
News articles have Gowers (upgrading), Dickson, Libba & Wallis staying. While other articles indicated Dahl & Roughy are on the move. With the re-signings made, that only leaves Honeychurch, Campbell, Jong and Lynch (needs to be elevated or delisted as he's hit the max time on the rookie list).
Surely HC & Campbell are gone, while Lynch should get an elevation of perhaps one year and Jong, well who knows why he hasn't been offered or signed a contract?
So Biggs, Smith, Collins, and likely Roughy and Dahl from the main list and NMM from the rookie list. 5 ML / 1 RL. Maybe Redders depending on some reporting, so maybe 6 ML. If we assume HC & Campbell gone, Jong retained and Lynch elevated. That 8 Main List gone, replaced by Gowers, Lynch & Smith. So 5 ML spots to be filled, and three rookie list spots to be filled as a guess. With picks 7, 20 ish for Dahl, circa picks natural pick 42 & 43/Roughy, circa pick 59 via Freo and pick 60. If we assume 7 plus West & Khamis as our first three, then just 59 & 60 to round out the five main list spots.
azabob
31-08-2018, 07:30 PM
I’d be surprised if we didn’t trade in a couple of players like last season.
By the sounds of it the draft may not be as deep so is 5 (+3 rookie) picks too many?
bulldogtragic
31-08-2018, 07:45 PM
I’d be surprised if we didn’t trade in a couple of players like last season.
By the sounds of it the draft may not be as deep so is 5 (+3 rookie) picks too many?
I think one or two might look at a trade for opportunities or go home factor (Roberts, Adams, Jong etc). And I think you're right we may look at one of two from another list.
Assuming 7, West & Khamis account for our first four picks. Then our remaining live picks are, before compo shuffling, picks 59 & 60 which to me are still pretty good value picks. So I'm not too fazed about the national draft.
As for the rookie draft, three picks might not be bad depending on the strategy:
Pick 1. We get the 6th best kid in the RD. Inevitably a few good ones get through to the RD, maybe we like one.
Pick 2. Perhaps there's a Footscray VFL player that might benefit from being full time in our afl system (William, Hayes etc).
Pick 3. Maybe since Bevo rates the ruck lower, our coverage for losing Campbell & Roughy comes from a state league ruckman or a delisted ruckman whose still available, or drafting a very raw ruckman to develop at Footscray. But on the rookie list.
I'm not too fazed about a couple of picks around 60 and some strategic multi-use selections in the rookie draft.
Axe Man
04-09-2018, 03:08 PM
Like Roarke Smith it's unclear whether this is on the primary or rookie list???
Gowers commits to Bulldogs
(http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-09-04/gowers-commits-to-bulldogs)
The Western Bulldogs have secured exciting forward Billy Gowers on a new contract which will run until at least the end of the 2020 season.
The 22-year-old put pen to paper on a two-year contract extension this week after an outstanding debut season for the Bulldogs.
Taken at pick nine in the 2017 NAB AFL Rookie Draft from Footscray, Gowers had previously spent two years on Carlton’s rookie list.
He made his debut in Round 1 against GWS and went on to play 20 games (he missed two matches with ankle soreness), finishing as the Dogs’ leading goalkicker this season with 26 majors.
Gowers was also deployed as a midfielder in the second half of the season, where he proved his ability as a multi-dimensional player.
“Billy has had a terrific start to his career at the Bulldogs and it’s a testament to his ability, hard work and dedication,” said Bulldogs’ General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power.
“We look forward to seeing him continue his development over the coming years.”
Gowers has averaged 12.7 disposals and 4.2 marks per game this season.
“I love being at the Club, so I was stoked to sign for another two years,” Gowers told westernbulldogs.com.au.
“To notch up as many games as I did in my first year at the Bulldogs has been awesome, and everyone at the club has been great to me.
“I’m really looking forward to the next phase of my career.”
EDIT: another article says he will be promoted: the extension will ensure the 22-year-old will be promoted to the senior list in the upcoming off-season. (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-04/young-dog-pens-fresh-deal-to-stay-at-kennel)
Bit of a worry the Bont isn't signed up yet.
Axe Man
04-09-2018, 03:57 PM
Bit of a worry the Bont isn't signed up yet.
I will only be concerned if it isn't done by early next season. If it drags on during the year it will become an unwanted distraction. Bont has essentially said that it will be done and I believe him because he's the Bont.
bulldogsthru&thru
04-09-2018, 04:00 PM
Bit of a worry the Bont isn't signed up yet.
It might be dependent on who we bring in/let go during the trade and FA period? If it's not done by year end i'll start to worry
AshMac
04-09-2018, 07:06 PM
I will only be concerned if it isn't done by early next season. If it drags on during the year it will become an unwanted distraction. Bont has essentially said that it will be done and I believe him because he's the Bont.
Agree. All the mail and chat is that it’s happening. We have the cash, if it drags past start of next season then there’s issues. Right now the club should be focusing on players who are out of contract next year.
Webby
04-09-2018, 08:06 PM
Dahlhaus our. Just announced..
azabob
04-09-2018, 08:11 PM
Dahlhaus our. Just announced..
Ours or out?
Webby
04-09-2018, 08:14 PM
Sorry, autocorrect. Out.
bulldogsthru&thru
04-09-2018, 08:27 PM
Dahl has underperformed for two seasons and is a limited player in terms of skills. But man him leaving does hurt. A blood sweat and tears player.
choconmientay
04-09-2018, 08:28 PM
Now since it’s announced, I am having mixed feelings about the situation.
Thanks for your time with us and thanks for 2016. Will always remember your dreadlocks since you were running around in the VFL and will remember you as a WB premiership player. Wish you all the best but not when you are playing against us in the future.
ledge
04-09-2018, 08:42 PM
I guess that’s another 450,000 - 500,000 saved for something we have in mind. Bont might be signed up very shortly.
I would say we have Got gowers on a low salary, we should have quite a bit in the coffers looking at retirements. 3 rookies will be upgraded I imagine on low wages as well.
bulldogtragic
04-09-2018, 08:46 PM
I love what Dahl has given our club, less recent average form. But 4 years on $550,000 is outlandishly overs based on the last 2 years. We just couldn't match it. So all the best Luke. Thanks. Hopefully end of first round compo. You being there aside, I hope Geelong go shit very quickly. Man I hate them.
GVGjr
05-09-2018, 05:17 AM
He was a very good player for us and it's a shame that his form dropped after winning the flag.
We put a good deal in front of him but he can obviously do better somewhere else so good luck to him.
AshMac
05-09-2018, 05:47 AM
Sure it happens at all clubs, but it’s disappointing seeing a good player in thier prime slump so badly in form and then leave. It could be another Higgins situation and he stars for cats, could not, guess time will tell. Wish him the best but based on last 2 years not disappointed in the club for standing thier ground. He just isn’t worth a 4 year contract to us at the moment.
Looks like the club official statement says just that:
“While the Club is obviously disappointed an agreement could not be reached, the Club maintains an obligation to be balanced in its approach across its entire playing group when making its list management decisions.”
http://m.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-09-04/dahlhaus-to-leave-bulldogs
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