AFL Round 1 2017 Discussion

[Eastdog]

AFL Round 1 2017

Date Home v Away Venue Time


Thursday March 23

Carlton v Richmond MCG 7.20pm


Friday March 24

Collingwood v Western Bulldogs MCG 7.50pm


Saturday March 25

Sydney v Port Adelaide SCG 4.35pm

St Kilda v Melbourne Etihad Stadium 4.35pm

Gold Coast v Brisbane Metricon Stadium 7.25pm

Essendon v Hawthorn MCG 7.25pm


Sunday March 26

North Melbourne v West Coast Etihad Stadium 1.10pm

Adelaide v GWS Adelaide Oval 3.20pm

Fremantle v Geelong Domain Stadium 7.40pm

[chef]

Looks like a great first round with a number of great match ups.

[boydogs]

Looks like a great first round with a number of great match ups.

Yep ripping start. Tipping will be impossible, ours and Sydney aside

[Ozza]

Why are the 4 saturday games played in only 2 time slots? Surely one of the 4:35pm matches could have been played at 2pm?

[bornadog]

Why are the 4 saturday games played in only 2 time slots? Surely one of the 4:35pm matches could have been played at 2pm?

Gold Coast game starts at 7.05 AEST

[aker39]

Why are the 4 saturday games played in only 2 time slots? Surely one of the 4:35pm matches could have been played at 2pm?

It was to keep that timeslot free for the AFLW Grand Final.

[Ozza]

Is the AFLW GF on this weekend?

[bornadog]

is the aflw gf on this weekend?



2017 nab afl women's grand finalsat march 25 12:55 est, ms #aflwgf

[Bulldog Joe]

The AFL continue with their Thursday season rehearsal match.

Obviously it has worked well for the TV station to fine tune their systems by have a full scale match of little importance between irrelevant teams in Richmond and Carlton. The added bonus for the teams is that one of them starts the year with a win.

TV is then all set for the real season opener on Friday.

[Topdog]

Yep Carlton still dreadful

[GVGjr]

Great crowd but from what I've seen the footy is a bit ordinary.

[AndrewP6]

My mate, a Blues supporter, just sent me a message "Bit of a problem when your number 1 draft pick from last year is your best player"...

[hujsh]

So looks like this game lived up to the standard we've come to expect each year.

[bulldogtragic]

So looks like this game lived up to the standard we've come to expect each year.

Keep Dusty quiet, and pressure their back half and employ a decent team defence and Richmond are going to get smacked this year.

[bornadog]

Gives false hope to Richmond and shows Carlton are wooden spooners -great start to season.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Martin was great but did anyone go near him?

Carlton's defending is disgusting.

[Twodogs]

Richmonds defence is terrible. And they still have too many mids who refuse to do the hard work when the ball goes back the other way and chase and block

[Remi Moses]

Watched the first half , and both defences resembled thoroughfares .
Battle between 18th and 12th , although I think Richmond will improve ,they won't make the eight.

[Remi Moses]

Richmonds defence is terrible. And they still have too many mids who refuse to do the hard work when the ball goes back the other way and chase and block

Kicking out of the back 50 is still ordinary to. I think 16 other sides would knock over Carlton .

[jeemak]

Watched the first half , and both defences resembled thoroughfares .
Battle between 18th and 12th , although I think Richmond will improve ,they won't make the eight.

Making the eight is a tough gig, it's a bit early to tell how good or bad Richmond is in that context after round one. They got the job done really well tonight with some new players in. Relative to who we're playing tomorrow versus who they played tonight, I hope we do the job as strongly.

Seven goal wins in round one are handy no matter what.

[comrade]

Richmond just have too many plodding B-C graders & it's been that way for years. Grigg, Houli, Hunt, Griffiths, Lloyd, Conca, Astbury, Vlastuin, Ellis, Grimes and McIntosh have all played a fair amount of AFL footy yet I dare say none of them would get a look in at the Dogs and they're all firmly best 22 at the Tigers.

Their top few (Rance, Martin, Riewoldt) are excellent but the cupboard is empty besides.

[bornadog]

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[ledge]

Richmond and Carlton was bruise free footy they ran one way and would t run back so once an error was made the other side ran down and kicked a goal , Tigers just made less errors .
Watching our game and comparing both us and the pies with that game bought pressure and tackling . Tigers and Carlton would fall to bits in that style game .

[Sedat]

Really enjoying the St Kilda implosion. They have been bloody awful.

By contrast Melbourne have been ruthless - very strong and deep midfield.

[comrade]

Really enjoying the St Kilda implosion. They have been bloody awful.

By contrast Melbourne have been ruthless - very strong and deep midfield.

Melbourne have been given a good list on a platter so I give them no credit for actually getting their shit together. Oliver is a dead set gun and gives their midfield an X factor the Saints just don't have.

Saints are destined for a middle of the road, low end of the 8 finish at best this year, especially if Roo misses plenty of games. Not enough top end talent to compete.

[Dry Rot]

Thoughts on the Swans game?

[chef]

Thoughts on the Swans game?

Port were fantastic and just out played them.

[chef]

Hope Essendon smash the Hawks

[ledge]

Hope Essendon smash the Hawks

Watching the first qtr their excitement about having the new players back and all the carry on, the adrenalin lasted about 10 minutes since then they been just hanging in there.
If the Hawks beat them it will take a lot of sting out of them that could have carried through the first 5 or 6 games.
They need to win this bigtime

[GVGjr]

Lions got off to a fast start against the Suns. Hawks holding Essendon

Nice win by Port over the Swans

[Daughter of the West]

And the drug cheats are going to put away Hawforn. The fawning over the cheats in the commentary is really, really starting to grate.

[bulldogtragic]

And the drug cheats are going to put away Hawforn. The fawning over the cheats in the commentary is really, really starting to grate.

I used the remote. Anything is better than that.

[Eastdog]

And the drug cheats are going to put away Hawforn. The fawning over the cheats in the commentary is really, really starting to grate.

When we play them hopefully it will be an easy 10 goal win for us. Bont to star and Tom Boyd to kick 5 goals :)

[Remi Moses]

Great that hawthorn lost , but crap that the Essendon fawning has begun .
They loooked slow, and old . Hope Clarkson gets a bagging if this goes pear shaped . ( dumping Lewis and Mitchell )

[bornadog]

My tipping is down the shute.

[Sedat]

We're a strange breed - we clap and cheer the 'fairytale' of convicted dopers returning from their ban moreso than the champion cancer sufferer returning to captain his team.

[GVGjr]

Melbourne knocking over the Saints in the manner they did could be an ominous sign. As Sedat pointed out earlier their midfield depth is impressive plus they have a bit of height all over the ground.
Mitch Hannan had a good debut for them as well.

[GVGjr]

It's being reported that Nick Riewoldt hyper-extend his right knee. Apparently it doesn't appear to be an ACL but it could see him miss some time.

[Go_Dogs]

Melbourne knocking over the Saints in the manner they did could be an ominous sign. As Sedat pointed out earlier their midfield depth is impressive plus they have a bit of height all over the ground.
Mitch Hannan had a good debut for them as well.

They're going to be a tough match up. Still have Hibberd to return to their back half, too.


Quite a few surprising results but it just underlines how even the competition is.

[Twodogs]

And the drug cheats are going to put away Hawforn. The fawning over the cheats in the commentary is really, really starting to grate.


Great that hawthorn lost , but crap that the Essendon fawning has begun .
They loooked slow, and old . Hope Clarkson gets a bagging if this goes pear shaped . ( dumping Lewis and Mitchell )


We're a strange breed - we clap and cheer the 'fairytale' of convicted dopers returning from their ban moreso than the champion cancer sufferer returning to captain his team.



I agree it's sickening but we are all partly to blame. We stood by while WADA went far too hard after the players while they didn't do a thing about the people who were actually to blame-Hird, Robinson, Dank etc. The people who issued the orders.

[Topdog]

I agree it's sickening but we are all partly to blame. We stood by while WADA went far too hard after the players while they didn't do a thing about the people who were actually to blame-Hird, Robinson, Dank etc. The people who issued the orders.

The athlete is responsible for what goes into his body. WADA didnt go too far at all.

[bornadog]

Sam Mitchell with 22 disposals at half time

[AndrewP6]

Just heard, Moz has a broken leg!? Fark I hope this report is wrong. Radio reporting as such, apparently.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Just heard, Moz has a broken leg!? Fark I hope this report is wrong. Radio reporting as such, apparently.

Surely no way he has a broken leg. You'd know it. Fractured maybe. Sounds like he'll be missing a fair amount of time though

[GVGjr]

West Coast have really dealt with North

[Remi Moses]

Just watching crows v giants and finding it hard to believe a few scribes have the crows not making the eight !
Very impressive second quarter

[ledge]

This could make all the so called experts look like fools if Adelaide continue this. Johnson might be past it

[1eyedog]

Just watching crows v giants and finding it hard to believe a few scribes have the crows not making the eight !
Very impressive second quarter

What about the Giants making the Granny?

[Roscoe_G]

All,

How bad was North today? We've actually degraded from last year's already mediocre levels. Terrible ...!!!

Roscoe

[Roscoe_G]

West Coast have really dealt with North

We weren't much with which to deal. At least this year Petrie is ineffective for the opposition.

[Greystache]

I agree it's sickening but we are all partly to blame. We stood by while WADA went far too hard after the players while they didn't do a thing about the people who were actually to blame-Hird, Robinson, Dank etc. The people who issued the orders.

Dank got a life ban from all sport. Funnily enough the AFEL tribunal managed to find him guilty of doping everyone except AFEL players.

[GVGjr]

All,

How bad was North today? We've actually degraded from last year's already mediocre levels. Terrible ...!!!

Roscoe

Not a good sign Roscoe, part of the pain of a reinvigorated playing list I'd suggest

West Coast should be a strong team again this year though

[Hotdog60]

I didn't see any of the game but gee it was good to see GWS go down. I actually tipped the Crows to get the job done.

[GVGjr]

I didn't see any of the game but gee it was good to see GWS go down. I actually tipped the Crows to get the job done.

I think the Crows are genuine contenders for the flag this year.

[Roscoe_G]

Not a good sign Roscoe, part of the pain of a reinvigorated playing list I'd suggest

West Coast should be a strong team again this year though

The greater problem is that I don't think the list is reinvigorated - for example, Higgins and Waite are not players who should be in a rebuild.

[GVGjr]

The greater problem is that I don't think the list is reinvigorated - for example, Higgins and Waite are not players who should be in a rebuild.

It needs a few more tweaks, it should take another season or two.

[1eyedog]

The greater problem is that I don't think the list is reinvigorated - for example, Higgins and Waite are not players who should be in a rebuild.

You can't afford to have too many inexperienced players in a refresh otherwise the margin today may well have been over 100 points. Waite, Higgins et al. will be required throughout the year to ensure you remain competitive.

You lost enough experience last year including your best player.

[Roscoe_G]

I appreciate the considered analysis, but given his fragility, Wells was almost certainly never going to a good prospect this year. Waite and Higgins - barring a highly atypical 6 week purple patch last year from Jarrad - have both been terrible. The coach is also lamentable.

When compared to your brilliant side, we are in for a lost 5-10 years.

[Roscoe_G]

You can't afford to have too many inexperienced players in a refresh otherwise the margin today may well have been over 100 points. Waite, Higgins et al. will be required throughout the year to ensure you remain competitive.

You lost enough experience last year including your best player.

I appreciate the considered analysis, but given his fragility, Wells was almost certainly never going to a good prospect this year. Waite and Higgins - barring a highly atypical 6 week purple patch last year from Jarrad - have both been terrible. The coach is also lamentable.

When compared to your brilliant side and impressive coach, we are in for a lost 5-10 years.

[1eyedog]

Oh sorry I was talking about Harvey. There is no one of quality to replace Waite or Higgins. Wells is a non-factor and has been for quite a few years in my opinion, mainly due to injuries.

Agree re. the coach.

[Roscoe_G]

It needs a few more tweaks, it should take another season or two.

Hmm ... a few tweaks, let me see:


Tweak 1: Higgins for Bontempelli;


Tweak 2: Waite for Liberatore; and


Tweak 3: Brad Scott for Luke Beveridge


All ok?

[Roscoe_G]

Oh sorry I was talking about Harvey. There is no one of quality to replace Waite or Higgins. Wells is a non-factor and has been for quite a few years in my opinion, mainly due to injuries.

Agree re. the coach.

Boomer was a great clubman, but most certainly not our best player. When fit, Wells and Goldstein - and Jack Ziebell - shared that mantle.


How Brad Scott has retained his role for so long is completely beyond me.

[bulldogtragic]

Hmm ... a few tweaks, let me see:


Tweak 1: Higgins for Bontempelli;


Tweak 2: Waite for Liberatore; and


Tweak 3: Brad Scott for Luke Beveridge


All ok?

Hmm, maybe no sorry... :D

We fortunately/unfortunately need you as low as possible to make the third round exchange for Hrovat mean anything. 37 for 54 would be ideal for Simon Dalrymple, he loves back to back picks.

[ledge]

Freo look like last years team . Keep the pressure on in your forward line and they will make sure you kick goals. Horrid backline.
Need a huge turn around in the second half or they will be rated in the Carlton and north bracket, wooden spoon material.

[Mantis]

I think the Crows are genuine contenders for the flag this year.

Have added a bit more pace to the team with the addition of Milera & Hampton and it was an impressive performance with Tex to return.

[ledge]

Hamling .. Chocolates to boiled lollies team wise.
Hrovat looking much the same as well.

[jeemak]

I agree it's sickening but we are all partly to blame. We stood by while WADA went far too hard after the players while they didn't do a thing about the people who were actually to blame-Hird, Robinson, Dank etc. The people who issued the orders.

TD that's misguided. As Topdog stated it's up to the athlete to control what goes in her body, it's the only way to govern and each and every one of the players who participated got what they deserved.

[jeemak]

The greater problem is that I don't think the list is reinvigorated - for example, Higgins and Waite are not players who should be in a rebuild.

Completely disagree. You'll get more out of the rebuild with players who can help you be competitive being included, especially if there's nobody else on the list who can do what they can.

[jeemak]

I note our two main competitors are in a world of pain post round one. I'm sure the media will be extremely critical of their poor preparation and 2016 almost success hangover........

[westdog54]

I agree it's sickening but we are all partly to blame. We stood by while WADA went far too hard after the players while they didn't do a thing about the people who were actually to blame-Hird, Robinson, Dank etc. The people who issued the orders.

As Stache rightly pointed out, Dank had been banned for life.

Everyone else was the AFL's problem to deal with and they screwed up royal.

[Dry Rot]

Just had a look at the ladder. He he he, Giants last.

[1eyedog]

I appreciate the considered analysis, but given his fragility, Wells was almost certainly never going to a good prospect this year. Waite and Higgins - barring a highly atypical 6 week purple patch last year from Jarrad - have both been terrible. The coach is also lamentable.

When compared to your brilliant side, we are in for a lost 5-10 years.

I thought Higgins was excellent for you last year prior to his injury. He was used in the right way up forward and was veey damaging. If Waite kicks straight today he justifys his position in the team. What young player could you bring in that has 8 shots on goal?

[Roscoe_G]

I thought Higgins was excellent for you last year prior to his injury. He was used in the right way up forward and was veey damaging. If Waite kicks straight today he justifys his position in the team. What young player could you bring in that has 8 shots on goal?

All good points in theory, unfortunately theory is of no use in practice. Jarrad is a poor kick for goal and Higgins got injured. When these guys can consistently deliver to their abilities, I'll be far more positive. I just don't see it in the tea leaves.

[LostDoggy]

Heard on the radio just before that Waite will be out for about 8 weeks.
Missed what injury he had though.

[chef]

Shoulder

[boydogs]

We're a strange breed - we clap and cheer the 'fairytale' of convicted dopers returning from their ban moreso than the champion cancer sufferer returning to captain his team.

Bit liberal with the "we" there mate

[Remi Moses]

Think north went to far in the experienced pick ups a few years back .
Mitchell is massive for west coast in he's released the pressure, in particular on priddis
Looked to me like GWS play a little to free reign still. Really like Adelaide