AFL Round 5, 2017 Discussion

[Eastdog]

Round 5, 2017

Home v Away Venue Time

Friday April 21

Port Adelaide v Carlton Adelaide Oval 7.50pm


Saturday April 22

Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Etihad Stadium 1.45pm

Gold Coast v Adelaide Metricon Stadium 4.35pm

Sydney v GWS SCG 7.25pm

Fremantle v North Melbourne Domain Stadium 7.40pm


Sunday April 23

St Kilda v Geelong Etihad Stadium 3.20pm

Hawthorn v West Coast MCG 4.40pm


Monday April 24

Richmond v Melbourne MCG 7.25pm


Tuesday April 25

Essendon v Collingwood MCG 3.20pm

[Eastdog]

From Round 6 onwards I will create just one thread all AFL 2017 Discussion where I just post up the fixture each week within the one thread that will save me from making a new thread each week.

[boydogs]

Sydney really need to get on the board. They've played a lot of kids early and had some narrow losses but at their best are squarely in flag contention if they can get themselves to September

[Remi Moses]

Wow wee! Port v :confused:
Can't wait

[Remi Moses]

Nathan Hrovat dropped

[Twodogs]

Nathan Hrovat dropped

Didn't think he was that bad. He hung back from a couple of contests though, I don't reckon that'd go down well with Brad Scott.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Put a multi on Port, Dogs, Crows, GWS, Saints, West Coast, Melbourne and Essendon.

Fingers are crossed.

That aside, huge games for Saints and Dees - both need to win these types of games if they want to push for the 8.

[Twodogs]

That's going to pay well if it gets up TBB. Fingers crossed.

[comrade]

Put a multi on Port, Dogs, Crows, GWS, Saints, West Coast, Melbourne and Essendon.

Fingers are crossed

That aside, huge games for Saints and Dees - both need to win these types of games if they want to push for the 8.

What's the payout?

[bornadog]

Sydney desperate for a win - it would be nice for them to knock off GWS.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

That's going to pay well if it gets up TBB. Fingers crossed.

Should the first 7 get up, I'll probably cash out!


What's the payout?

$1,150.

[Twodogs]

Should the first 7 get up, I'll probably cash out!



Is the Essendon game the day after the other games? That 12 hour wait with a ticket in my pocket that I knew I could cash out would be hell I reckon.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Is the Essendon game the day after the other games? That 12 hour wait with a ticket in my pocket that I knew I could cash out would be hell I reckon.

Yep, last game of the round. Don't think I'd have the nerve to hold out the 12 hours!

[Twodogs]

What would be the cash out figure if the first six win? Do they make a decent offer?

[bornadog]

Carlton embarrassed again on Friday Night Footy - I am loving it.:)

[bulldogtragic]

Carlton embarrassed again on Friday Night Footy - I am loving it.:)

Or laterally, The AFEL embarrassed again on Friday Night Footy scheduling Carlton to play Friday Night Footy.

Surely Carlton don't want these games. The home team gets the money and the Carlton leaning kids get to watch them shit it up and wonder to themselves, 'maybe I should follow the Western Bulldogs'.

[Remi Moses]

Surely Carlton don't get a Friday night game until at least 2030

[jeemak]

Yes, but don't call me Shirley.

[GVGjr]

Carlton embarrassed again on Friday Night Footy - I am loving it.:)

I suspect the club isn't that serious about this year. Their focus will be on developing younger players more than trying to win games but yes performances like last night should result in less high profile games for them next season.

[Sedat]

I suspect the club isn't that serious about this year. Their focus will be on developing younger players more than trying to win games but yes performances like last night should result in less high profile games for them next season.
For once they have hired a coach prepared to take the long haul approach to improving the list. Green shoots everywhere but they will be competition fodder in 2017. I'd much rather be Carlton than Essendon or Hawthorn in terms of list profile and emerging young talent.

[Remi Moses]

I'd take Hawthorn's 4 flags in 10 years though.
How long will their fan base take being patient ?

[Twodogs]

I'd take Hawthorn's 4 flags in 10 years though.
How long will their fan base take being patient ?


So would I, and hopefully I will.

Not long if history is anything to go by.

[merantau]

North doing well against the Dockers. Bit of spite in the game so far. Keep going North.

[Dry Rot]

I trust we are all vocal Swans fans tonight.

[bornadog]

I trust we are all vocal Swans fans tonight.

I am

[merantau]

I am
In the immortal words of Sam Goldwyn: "Include me in."

North having a real crack.

[Twodogs]

I am

It's not going well. Greatstart for Sydney with the first 4 goals but GWS have kicked 10 of the last 11 to lead by 25 points. It's going to take a big turn around from here.

[G-Mo77]

Lol. Norf.

[Twodogs]

Put a multi on Port, Dogs, Crows, GWS, Saints, West Coast, Melbourne and Essendon.

Fingers are crossed.

That aside, huge games for Saints and Dees - both need to win these types of games if they want to push for the 8.


First four legs have got up. It's going to be squeaky bum Sunday (to quote Sir Alex Ferguson) for you tomorrow mate. West Coast should get up but the saints are a worry I reckon.

[Remi Moses]

Oh dear ! Norf

[Remi Moses]

Brad Scott's record in close games is awful .
GWS just toyed with Sydney to be honest .

[Twodogs]

North. All I've got to say is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And point. I really do love our next door neighbours.

[ledge]

Can't see Scott getting sacked he is the most consistent coach in the AFL.

[GVGjr]

GWS are in ominous form. Thats quite a belting they've given the Swans

[bornadog]

GWS are in ominous form. Thats quite a belting they've given the Swans

Swans are leaving their run abit late, 5 losses is hard to over turn if you want to be top 4.

On GWS, let them play their best footy now and fall over half way during the season. :D

[ledge]

West coast are very very suspect in Melbourne.
I still expect them to win though it is the Hawks.

[ledge]

Saints are giving it a red hot go , but looks like Geelong are moving away now.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

First four legs have got up. It's going to be squeaky bum Sunday (to quote Sir Alex Ferguson) for you tomorrow mate. West Coast should get up but the saints are a worry I reckon.

Both Saints and Eagles crap.

Ah well, see what I can throw 10 on next week!

[Remi Moses]

Pretty ordinary from stkilda as they just capitulated .
Selwood was just incredible in that last term .
West coast are playing like west coast at the G.
Brad Scott's record in close games is diabolical , and they're 3 from 19 games .

[Topdog]

Eagles are pretty rubbish in Melbourne but that was a good win by the Hawks.

Get up vs the Saints in Tassie next week and they will be 3-4 after they play Brisbane in Melb.

Saints performing as expected from me. They did OK last season and everyone expected them to push on but their best 5 players last season were all old (well 5/6 from memory). The youth that they have just isnt really there.

[Twodogs]

Eagles are pretty rubbish in Melbourne but that was a good win by the Hawks.

Get up vs the Saints in Tassie next week and they will be 3-4 after they play Brisbane in Melb.

Saints performing as expected from me. They did OK last season and everyone expected them to push on but their best 5 players last season were all old (well 5/6 from memory). The youth that they have just isnt really there.

I wonder why they traded for Stevens if they aren't going to play him?

[ledge]

I wonder why they traded for Stevens if they aren't going to play him?

What did we get for him ?
And I wonder if he would have got any games with us this year?

[Dry Rot]

How is wonder defender Carlisle going?

[ledge]

How is wonder defender Carlisle going?

Just had a look at his stats for the 5 games and he had one good one,15 possessions at 100% disposal, but certainly doesn't tackle or chase.
Averages around 40 in SuperCoach which isn't really a good guide for defenders.
I would give him a few more weeks before making a call on this season.

[Twodogs]

What did we get for him ?
And I wonder if he would have got any games with us this year?

I'm kind of glad he's gone because we would have had to have played him ATM and he butchers the ball. We already have Lin Jong who does everything perfectly and then misses his target by 10 metres. Another player like that would drive me over the edge.


How is wonder defender Carlisle going?

He appeared to be wearing a car tyre underneath his jumper and he still runs into his own teamates.

[jeemak]

Cracking game at the G between Richmond and Melbourne, and an 85K crowd.

Tigers have shown great spirit to come back from 20 pts down at three quarter time, their supporters are going nuts.

[bulldogtragic]

I wish Roosy was still coach. He'd be ripping everyone and everything a part after the Freo loss and this one. Hopefully the new coach rips into Roosy and the culture of losing he created.

[G-Mo77]

I can't wait to burst the Richmond bubble in 2 weeks.

[bornadog]

Melbourne capitulate for the 3rd week in a row when they looked like winning for most of the game. Two injuries didn't help them.

[bornadog]

I can't wait to burst the Richmond bubble in 2 weeks.

They play Adelaide next week over there.

[G-Mo77]

They play Adelaide next week over there.

Round 7 we have them

[Topdog]

Melbourne capitulate for the 3rd week in a row when they looked like winning for most of the game. Two injuries didn't help them.

To be fair to them it looked like the injuries played a big part tonight. They looked cooked at the start of the 4th

[Mantis]

Melbourne capitulate for the 3rd week in a row when they looked like winning for most of the game. Two injuries didn't help them.

The 2 injuries were the reason they dropped off, Nankervis had a big influence late in the game and Melb missed Watts across HF.

[jeemak]

The 2 injuries were the reason they dropped off, Nankervis had a big influence late in the game and Melb missed Watts across HF.

Tough not to in those conditions and a heated contest, rotations become super important.

Watts was really clean in spots tonight.

[Twodogs]

Nankervis has been a really good pick up for Richmond. He would have been handy with us at the moment.

[Sedat]

Injuries obviously played a part but what did Goodwin do to stem the flow? Watts was rooted at 3/4 time - Hogan should have swapped with him and taken a turn in the ruck. Or is he too good to do some heavy lifting outside F50? McDonald was diabolical on Riewoldt but Goodwin never made the change. Viney and Jones struggled in the middle but weren't tried anywhere else.

Small sample size but Goodwin looks like a limited coach who is stubborn and only has one tactic in his kitbag, the aggressive press. Will watch with interest to see how he coaches with an injury hit team in the next few weeks.

[Dry Rot]

Melbourne = Pea Hearts.

[comrade]

Injuries obviously played a part but what did Goodwin do to stem the flow? Watts was rooted at 3/4 time - Hogan should have swapped with him and taken a turn in the ruck. Or is he too good to do some heavy lifting outside F50? McDonald was diabolical on Riewoldt but Goodwin never made the change. Viney and Jones struggled in the middle but weren't tried anywhere else.

Small sample size but Goodwin looks like a limited coach who is stubborn and only has one tactic in his kitbag, the aggressive press. Will watch with interest to see how he coaches with an injury hit team in the next few weeks.

Came here to say the same thing. Shocking coaching from Goodwin.

Nankervis was obviously going to get on top, yet the set ups at stoppages were diabolical from Melbourne. So much space for Tiger mids to run into, no one on the defensive side, just utter chaos. Why not sacrifice a forward and bring an extra to each stoppage to block the space and give Nankervis less options?

Injuries didn't help but this was lost in the coach's box.

[Dry Rot]

Petracca is a ****ing big unit. Viney is a tool.

[Dry Rot]

Does anyone actually have any interest in today's game Pies v Bombers?

[GVGjr]

I think we can beat both Melbourne or Richmond teams but they're both playing well.

The AFL would be very pleased with a crowd of 85,000 and the Tiger supporters certainly come out when the team is winning games.

[GVGjr]

Does anyone actually have any interest in today's game Pies v Bombers?

A slight interest but I doubt I will watch it.

[Hotdog60]

A slight interest but I doubt I will watch it.

Ditto.
I've actually only seen these two play once or twice on this day since it came into being.

[Webby]

The AFL would be very pleased with a crowd of 85,000 and the Tiger supporters certainly come out when the team is winning games.

One of the big keys to a big crowd at the MCG is the MCC Members turning out. Sometimes the ground can be packed, but the Members area is a bit light on. That doesn't tend to happen when Melbourne are going well.

Richmond have done phenomenally well to hold onto their supporter base despite their tribulations over the past 35 years. Although many of them have placed footy as a squarely secondary hobby over the past three decades, there's a hell of a lot of them out in that SE corridor of Melbourne!

[Webby]

Does anyone actually have any interest in today's game Pies v Bombers?

I'm always interested in Essendon being beaten. I wish I could flick my brain across from antipathy to aloofness mode for them - as I realise that by hating them, I am, by definition, consuming their product and probably indirectly helping them - but I just can't.

Their supporters are collectively the worst in the comp by some distance.

[G-Mo77]

Does anyone actually have any interest in today's game Pies v Bombers?

None. Haven't watched it in years, won't start today.

[jeemak]

I'm taking clients to the EFC Chairman's Lunch at the G. Never been to one so it's a box ticked I suppose.

[Topdog]

Does anyone actually have any interest in today's game Pies v Bombers?

Would love to see the Bombers lose, thats about it

[ReLoad]

I think we can beat both Melbourne or Richmond teams but they're both playing well.

The AFL would be very pleased with a crowd of 85,000 and the Tiger supporters certainly come out when the team is winning games.

I went to the game last night and it was diabolical, the skill errors on both teams were abysmal. Both had efficiencies in the 60's

If either of those teams served that up against us we would smash them, that i have no fear at all of.

Melbourne have (apart form Hogan) virtually no KPP and thier rucks are offiically decimated.

As for Hogan, people were all over stringer last year when he was down on form (we know why) but seriously Hogan was 500% worse than stringer, he was always behind, looking for a cheapie, didnt really run and for all intensive purposes looked rubbish. Given his amazing talent its a shame. - is he going to leave at the end of the year?

As for the tigers, they really rely on three players, Rance, martin and Reiwoldt, if any of those 3 have a dirty night they wont win. Ive got no doubt that we can cover them.

[Topdog]

As for Hogan, people were all over stringer last year when he was down on form (we know why) but seriously Hogan was 500% worse than stringer, he was always behind, looking for a cheapie, didnt really run and for all intensive purposes looked rubbish. Given his amazing talent its a shame. - is he going to leave at the end of the year?


First game back from suspension so i'll give him this week as a week to get back into it but as said earlier pretty much all young KPF are doing terribly this year

[Remi Moses]

Richmond are entering the "men's dept" the next fortnight.

[Twodogs]

We complain about some of our players and their yips with set shots. C7 just showed a graphic that said at 3/4 time from 11 set shots Collingwood have kicked 1.8!

[ledge]

I like Anzac Day game , you know one will lose, the way Collingwood is going , not just the seniors but the reserves to , shows Buckleys game isn't any good.
They have a lot of talent in the seconds but they are playing terrible too .
Watch the pressure start to mount now.

[Remi Moses]

Every Collingwood goal is a grind, and the connection between mids and forwards is hopeless .
Buckley' s had plenty of time to build this list, yet there are holes everywhere .There's no injury excuse now as well.
His coaching must be held to account as their high defensive line got cut open constantly . Stack of bomber goals kicked over the top

[Go_Dogs]

Went along today and it was an OK game from a neutral perspective. Daniher has some pretty good wheels for a big fella.

We should have no trouble accounting for either side.

[KT31]

Went along today and it was an OK game from a neutral perspective. Daniher has some pretty good wheels for a big fella.

We should have no trouble accounting for either side.
Daniher may be crap at a set shot but his work rate and long kicks into the forward 50 were exceptional.
Darcy Moore could learn a fair bit if he sat down and watched Danlhers game.

[Twodogs]

Every Collingwood goal is a grind, and the connection between mids and forwards is hopeless .
Buckley' s had plenty of time to build this list, yet there are holes everywhere .There's no injury excuse now as well.
His coaching must be held to account as their high defensive line got cut open constantly . Stack of bomber goals kicked over the top

Actually he's plenty of time to destroy the list.


Daniher may be crap at a set shot but his work rate and long kicks into the forward 50 were exceptional.
Darcy Moore could learn a fair bit if he sat down and watched Danlhers game.

That's pretty much what Moore spent the day doing. Standing down his end watching Essendon players kick the ball.

[KT31]

That's pretty much what Moore spent the day doing. Standing down his end watching Essendon players kick the ball.

Too true, TD.