3 Things I've learned round 10 vs the Saints

[GVGjr]

Let's hear 3 new things you have learned from todays game vs the Saints.

[bulldogtragic]

1. I've never seen an 18yo 205cm player look that comfortable in his first game. Not a huge game, but seems equal to the challenge.
2. Goal kicking was improved & good, 12.8 (two posters) except for bloody Bonts 1.4 to 13.12.
3. Bailey Dale has shown the match committee they were right to give him some continuous games.

[hujsh]

1. Bont's goal kicking (accuracy) has been an issue but now it's becoming quite concerning
2. If the game today is what we can expect to see from Dale in the future then I'm excited already. Showed some strength to shrug some tackles., looked composed in a way few bar Daniel and Bontempelli do with the ball and showed his ability to kick opportunist goals.
3. Hunter needs to play VFL for a bit and hopefully while there he'll learn to use his right boot. If Macrae can do it no reason he can't too.

EDIT: Looking at the Match Committee thread it seems Hunter did quite a good job today on Steven which I wasn't aware of. So i learned that too.

Nevertheless I still don't like to see him messing up simple opportunities for goals because he can't/won't kick it on his right.

[comrade]

I've read that Hunter played a solid shut down role on Steven.

[Ozza]

1. Well, I learnt that Hunter can play a run with role. Big tick to Bevo and the other coaches, to identify that Hunter has been getting opposition attention and not playing well as a result, and give him a role himself.

2. The Package is officially back. Having a very good season, and this week was his best performance yet.

3. Bailey Dale might just be a best 22 player well before I thought he could get there.

[jeemak]

Thanks for saving me the time Ozza.

The only addition would be that when we play a solid and disciplined defensive team game we are bloody hard to score against and it covers our inefficient forward movement.

[Ozza]

Thanks for saving me the time Ozza.

The only addition would be that when we play a solid and disciplined defensive team game we are bloody hard to score against and it covers our inefficient forward movement.

Agree with your comment on the defensive team game. We set up the ground exceptionally well and closed down the Saints outlets out of their D50 after quarter time. Some (not all, but some!) of the comedy of errors going inside 50 for us, can be explained by the congestion after we created the Saints turnovers.

[S Coast Simon]

Adams is a gun. We forget he's in his second year of AFL. I can forgive the odd brain fade for for what he is doing on the best forward every week. He is playing on some gun player

Dale is a smooth mover. His expression doesn't change he is pretty casual out there which says to me he could become a very good player. Bit earlier than I was thinking

our goal kicking has a serious flaw. They all seem to lean back and kick a little casual. It's like golf you must keep your head down and eyes fixed on the ball. The second you take your focus off the ball your not striking it straight

[jeemak]

Goal kicking is as simple as taking your normal kicking run up, holding the ball reasonably still, relaxing and leaning over it to the extent you feel like your knee on the kicking leg is getting really close to your forehead. It sounds like a lot, but it really isn't.

Our malaise in this area is completely between the ears, our players just don't pay enough attention to detail when taking set shots. It's incredibly frustrating.

[Twodogs]

Adams is a gun. We forget he's in his second year of AFL. I can forgive the odd brain fade for for what he is doing on the best forward every week. He is playing on some gun player

Dale is a smooth mover. His expression doesn't change he is pretty casual out there which says to me he could become a very good player. Bit earlier than I was thinking

our goal kicking has a serious flaw. They all seem to lean back and kick a little casual. It's like golf you must keep your head down and eyes fixed on the ball. The second you take your focus off the ball your not striking it straight


Goal kicking is as simple as taking your normal kicking run up, holding the ball reasonably still, relaxing and leaning over it to the extent you feel like your knee on the kicking leg is getting really close to your forehead. It sounds like a lot, but it really isn't.

Our malaise in this area is completely between the ears, our players just don't pay enough attention to detail when taking set shots. It's incredibly frustrating.


Thanks guys. I've been banging on about this for *!*!*!*!ing years now. Goalkicking technique is simple to fix. All you have to reme,ber is three or four things and you empty your mind of everything else. I always say that if you gave me 15 minutes with each player and a football I could improve their goal kicking significantly.

[Go_Dogs]

1. It's a good feeling to be dominated in a number of key metrics, but win fairly comfortably. Reminded me of some of the darker years in 2012-14 where we could smash a team in a number of stats, but get flogged.

2. Dahl will benefit from a week off more than anyone. He's such a warrior, but he looks tired and sore.

3. English isn't ready to work yet, but he's got tools - a lot of them.

[bornadog]

2. Dahl will benefit from a week off more than anyone. He's such a warrior, but he looks tired and sore.



He runs himself into the ground. A few times I watched him and he was completely stuffed, hands on hips and taking huge breaths.

What a little terrier he is, so underrated.

[ratsmac]

1. I don't know if it's the Dale Morris factor but our defence was bulletproof again like last year.
2. Caleb Daniel might be still growing. How he spoiled a 198cm Carlisle mark is a mystery.
3. St Kilda without the diver Riewoldt don't scare me.

[always right]

He runs himself into the ground. A few times I watched him and he was completely stuffed, hands on hips and taking huge breaths.

What a little terrier he is, so underrated.
If I have one criticism is that he seems to be going to ground too easily. Whilst he has a great ability to regain his feet quickly, there were several instances where he competed for the ball up forward against a couple of opponents but immediately went to ground and was unable to lock it in. Perhaps fatigue is the reason.

[Twodogs]

1. I don't know if it's the Dale Morris factor but our defence was bulletproof again like last year.
2. Caleb Daniel might be still growing. How he spoiled a 198cm Carlisle mark is a mystery.
3. St Kilda without the diver Riewoldt don't scare me.

They are developing a decent team of onballers and small forwards though. I think this version of the StKilda football club will be much better than the previous ones that featured Rievoldt because they are more even and it's harder to spot a weakness to exploit. I think the fact McCartin isn't quite as good as they thought he was going to be has forced them to reassess their forward line and it looks even more dangerous.


If I have one criticism is that he seems to be going to ground too easily. Whilst he has a great ability to regain his feet quickly, there were several instances where he competed for the ball up forward against a couple of opponents but immediately went to ground and was unable to lock it in. Perhaps fatigue is the reason.

I only noticed him go to ground once where I thought it was a problem. He did look knackered though.

[Insufficient Intent]

1. Caleb was in it all game, he's a dynamo that guy and as sharp as a tack. I think it was his mum that told him "It's not whether your tall enough that matters, it's whether your good enough." He's bucket loads of good enough, thanks Mrs. Daniel!
2. Nice to see some Shane Biggs of old in his game back.
3. Bailey Dale gets better every week; composure and smarts are fabulous attributes.

[ratsmac]

If I have one criticism is that he seems to be going to ground too easily. Whilst he has a great ability to regain his feet quickly, there were several instances where he competed for the ball up forward against a couple of opponents but immediately went to ground and was unable to lock it in. Perhaps fatigue is the reason.

I hate when players lose their feet but Dahl actually uses it to his advantage because he's a small. He normally goes to ground while trapping the ball in and either regaining his feet and taking the ball away or dishing it off. However I agree he didn't execute well with this tactic yesterday.

[ledge]

1 we come good half way through the second qtr in most games.
2 i love big timmy he is so good reading the play and he is an amazing inside player for his age and height.
3 We need Roughy in our team.

[Remi Moses]

1.We got our game back after quarter time
2. Dale is going to be a very good player
3. We had them in total disarray, and could have won by 10 goals

[boydogs]

1. Bailey Dale was more Bont than Bont last night. Reminded us all what kicking to advantage when going inside 50 looks like, and how it results in goals - easy goals, not the snaps in traffic than have comprised our 40% goal kicking accuracy this year. 10 score involvements was just massive. He kept backing himself to break tackles, and just when I thought it would go pear shaped, it didn't. 2 weeks ago I called that he should never play up the ground, I was wrong

2. Stringer is back to his best. Kept us in it when St Kilda were dominating the stats so that we could run away with it when we got in control. He almost made Dickson obsolete with his well-timed leads and accurate conversion

3. Roughead is almost our most important player. He can go to any third of the ground and make things right for us at any stage of the game and whenever we are being dominated somewhere. He won't be obsolete with English & Boyd at their peak

[Smads57]

1.Some weeks earlier, after watching Dale in a VFL match and making some less than complimentary comments about his effort, I am glad he has proven me wrong and is now playing the football we all hoped he might....
2. I believed some weeks ago Dale would likely be an easy delisting decision for the club at the end of 2017 - I can't see that happening now!
3. I viewed Dale as lacking any 'body' strength after some of his efforts in the VFL earlier in the year, but his ability to stand up in some tackles yesterday have shown I was (pleasantly) deceived!

[GVGjr]

1) I understand why we tagged Steven yesterday but not Dangerfield or Selwood the week before. Well done to Lachie.
2) Stringer looked leaner and stronger yesterday and he must have worked hard while injured.
3) Biggs proved that a couple of good weeks at Footscray can help you when you return to the seniors. Welcome back Biggsy

[kruder]

1 Marcus Adams signature is as important as JJ's. His first quarter yesterday was sensational, really kept us in the game when we were poor early.

2 Bailey Dales improved strength is the reason why he can become a good AFL player. His outside game has always been of AFL standard.

3 When Biggs plays like Biggs 2016 , he is far more effective by foot than Suckling. His 30 metre passes aren't far off Daniels.

[macca]

1. Roughead in the side gives us a ruck prescene. His marking adds another target. Just feel more confident when his in such an important player for use
2. When we don't bomb in Long to the forward and lower the eyes to look for a shorter option we hit targets
. In the first quarter we were just bombing into forward line and i thought same old same old . Turned it Around in the middle of the second quarter
3. English is very agile for a big guy and he started to get into some of the stoppages in the second half. Good contest against Longer and he would have learnt a few things against a middle of the road Ruck. I wonder if saints are wondering trading like Ngee or Hockey was worth it for McEvoy ?

[JohnGentStand]

1. Lead. Mark. Kick. Forget the contested marks. Give us 2 forwards a game doing this well and we will be dynamite. It's always been the bread and butter of champion forwards.

2. Bailey Dale. For us to go again we need 6 big improvers on last seasons form on the list, while not dropping off much elsewhere. I always thought Jongy would be one. Then hoping a combo of Boyd, McLean, Adams, Daniel, Stringer, Williams, Redpath, Murphy& Cloke. This guy could have a real impact.

3.Dale Morris. I never want to see him out of our side.