Game Day Round 12, 2017 - Sydney Swans V Western Bulldogs

[Eastdog]

Important game tomorrow night

Margin: Dogs by 8 points

First Goal: Stringer to get us going

Best On Ground: Dahlhaus

Go Bulldogs!!

[Remi Moses]

Dogs by 12 pts ( another tight one )
BOG Bont
1st goal Dickson

Staggered we're not favourtites, come on lads

[bulldogtragic]

Draw
BOG - McLean
1st Goal - McLean

[bornadog]

Dogs 17 points

First Goal Stringer

BOG: Dahl

[Eastdog]

Really want to win this one. We need to get some away wins. 100% record at home is fantastic but would be great to lift the away win percentage as well.

[boydogs]

WB by 32
First Goal Stringer
BOG Stringer

[Go_Dogs]

Dogs by 2
BOG Picken
First goal Cloke

[Twodogs]

Welcome to game day.

Dogs by 34 points
First goal Hunter
BOG Picken

[bornadog]

Done by 2
BOG Picken
First goal Cloke

Is that auto correct or we lose by 2 :D

[Go_Dogs]

Is that auto correct or we lose by 2 :D

Auto correct. If we lose by 2, I'll hold myself responsible.

[Bulldog4life]

Doggies by 20
First Goal Dickson
BOG Wallis

[Bulldog4life]

Sydney $1.62 Doggies $2.35................hmmm I'll have a bit of that.

[LostDoggy]

Dogs by 8
1st Goal: McLean (after a too high free kick just to fire up the whingers)
BOG: Bont

[bornadog]

Gary Rohan out Harry Marsh in

bulldogs no change

[bulldogtragic]

Gary Rohan out Harry Marsh in

bulldogs no change

Damn. No Rohan & Tippett makes them much better, no matter replaces them, other than Tahleeya.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Dogs by 15 points
BOG Wallis
1st goal: Dickson

[Rocket Science]

Every rational faculty suggests we'll knock them over, again, but something in the guts says they'll get us tonight.

Hoping for an encore from Stringer, and a bit more key-moment authority from the Bont.

[Eastdog]

I'm quietly confident will do it.

[LostDoggy]

Sydney $1.62 Doggies $2.35................hmmm I'll have a bit of that.

All over it too.

[jeemak]

Wow they're right up the arses of Sydney tonight.

Soft start from Jong. Hannebury shouldn't have been allowed to waltz goal side like that.

[bulldogtragic]

Geez, umpiring sooks against us would be loving it now.

[Rocket Science]

Wow they're right up the arses of Sydney tonight.

Aren't they just. Where the fark was prior opportunity on the 2nd free against Bont?

[Eastdog]

A little frustrating early

[jeemak]

So we're not paying too high tonight........

[bulldogtragic]

That's why I love Bailey Dale.

[Eastdog]

Great goal McLean.

[jeemak]

Lovely kicking from each of Dale and McLean for our first goal. It makes such a difference when players can kick well.

[G-Mo77]

So we're not paying too high tonight........

No but they're paying HTB. Haha.

Sydney players on the hero pills tonight.

[bulldogtragic]

My god Caleb.

[Eastdog]

Bad turnover from Caleb.

[Eastdog]

That sucks. Uncaleblike.

[Eastdog]

Marcus Adams I've liked his game so far.

[Eastdog]

McLean and Adams have been good. More need to get into it.

[AndrewP6]

I think I'll go do some housework.

[always right]

Horrendous quarter by Boyd. Been a liability so far.

And how many tackles have they broken through? We're lucky to be this close.

[Eastdog]

I think I'll go do some housework.

The gave has been dull it needs a lift from us.

[Eastdog]

Hit outs I saw

Them 16
Us 3

[jeemak]

Horrendous quarter by Boyd. Been a liability so far.

And how many tackles have they broken through? We're lucky to be this close.

Hopefully he warms into it, he hasn't played in a month.

[kruder]

Talls were bloody poor. Need to make a contest and lock it in.

[always right]

Hopefully he warms into it, he hasn't played in a month.

Perhaps he should have come back through Footscray.

[Eastdog]

Need to do something and get it forward.

[jeemak]

Perhaps he should have come back through Footscray.

Yeah, maybe.

This is boring. The only excitement in the game is caused by our bad kicking.

[Rocket Science]

We've been great at giving the ball back to them gift-wrapped so far.

[Eastdog]

Very lacklustre

[Eastdog]

Caleb yes we needed that one.

[G-Mo77]

Absolute #^#^#*@ rubbish.

[G-Mo77]

That's all it deserved as well. We get our heads ripped orf it's holding the ball.

[kruder]

Gee the bont is out of form his hands are usually so good been poor for a while now

[Eastdog]

Very frustrating game for us so far.

[Rocket Science]

Need a lot more from Hunter, Jong & JJ.

[ledge]

How come their is 2 or 3 players on their own in the forward line ? Once it slides past they are running into goal ..

[AndrewP6]

This is awful, we're lucky to still be in it. So disappointing, have to hope for the 3rd quarter comeback - again.

[Rocket Science]

Wonder if we'll crack 20 points by half time. Suspense is killing me.

[G-Mo77]

They're just getting it easy in transition. They're missing everything though. A clean handpass that hit a target would be nice

[always right]

Second to the ball every time. We deserve to be pummelled.

[ratsmac]

We look terrible atm.
Sorry but English shouldn't be playing on this wet track. Libba should have his spot. I hope I eat these words.

[dog town]

We are carrying 4 or 5 guys in the real tough stuff tonight. With the conditions the way they are we just can't afford it. Swans players are committed and some of ours are sticking one hand in.

[bulldogtragic]

Some of this umpiring is baffling...

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

What are the umpires doing. As bad as we are playing the umpiring is woeful.

[bulldogtragic]

Is this Bonts worst game (so far) in his career?

[ratsmac]

We aren't playing these conditions well and aren't responding to the Sydney pressure at all. We deserve to be touched up tonight

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Pathetic performance.

We're just not a good side this year.

[Mantis]

Insipid performance... just woeful!

[bulldogtragic]

This is the real make or break game, as Bevo said. Seems it's a break unless this garbage changes and the umpiring is less biased.

[DOG GOD]

Pathetic....so many intercept marks against us....we should be 60 pts down at half time.

[AndrewP6]

Is this Bonts worst game (so far) in his career?

If they're omitting players on form i.e Libba, Bont needs a spell. He has only given frees away. IMO he's keeping his spot based on the fact he MIGHT have a good 15 minutes.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Yet again find ourselves behind the 8 ball. To a 3-7 team that has struggled at home this year.
We usually find a way to pull things back at some stage; but we are still nowhere near playing the type of consistent football that a premiership team should be playing.

[whythelongface]

We are way out of form. Lucky not to be 6 goals down.

[AndrewP6]

Perhaps he should have come back through Footscray.

Perhaps he should play out the year at Footscray.

[DOG GOD]

We have players who look slow in normal games....our whole team look slow tonight....we are playing like a team who should be 3-7....maybe we should be on years performance.

[Rocket Science]

This was a bit of a crossroads game for both teams.

Sydney's approach so far's been everything you'd have expected in this one too.

And we still haven't gotten out of 2nd gear.

[G-Mo77]

We look terrible atm.
Sorry but English shouldn't be playing on this wet track. Libba should have his spot. I hope I eat these words.

Agree. Thought he would have been a late out. Not the game for him tonight.

I'll call it. 2 goals and a 23 point hole. They're on tonight and ferocious for the contest. Lot of our boys look like they're still on holidays. Real disappointing so far.

[bornadog]

Horrendous quarter by Boyd. Been a liability so far.

And how many tackles have they broken through? We're lucky to be this close.

Hasn't had a good year, we all thought he was cooked in his last game. I think it is time to retire.

[Bulldog4life]

The ring a ring a rosy across the half back line with poor handballs which eventually goes to a Swans player needs to end. Move the ball forward.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

English is a great prospect for sure, but not on this type of track, not against this big bodied team and not at his current weight.
Our midield is getting killed and Sydney's pressure is like ours was in September last year. Our pressure around the contest is nowhere near where our game style requires it to be.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

The decision to play English was very poor, but the crux of the issue is that we arent even a shadow of the team we were last year. Hunger? Motivation? We look flat and disinterested and it's been present in every game we've played this year - GWS game the exception.

I'm wondering when the heat will come on us because we've served up some real rubbish in games consistently.

[bulldogtragic]

Hasn't had a good year, we all thought he was cooked in his last game. I think it is time to retire.

He could've gone out an All Aussie premiership player. He goes out at Footscray. I've seen enough to say I don't want him in the side again.

[kruder]

Not much to like there. Midfield bloody awful and and our talls......... We just seem to have too many players having significant quiet patches during games. JJ is he playing? Hunter? Bont? Wood? Roughead?Stringer?Dickson?Cloke?Roberts?Picken? the list goes on.

[always right]

These blokes are playing for their place in the side next week;
Cloke......just no impact on the contest.
Boyd......looks like an old man out there
Suckling.....one trick pony

Jong playing his worst game of the year. Has made fumbling an art form tonight.
Roughy having zero impact. Show some physicality FFS.
Midfielders letting their opponents run goalside unchallenged.
Defenders giving Adams zero support against Buddy.
Stringer gone missing.
Bont ineffective.
Caleb, Adams and Wallis only ones who can hold their heads high.

[ratsmac]

English is a great prospect for sure, but not on this type of track, not against this big bodied team and not at his current weight.
Our midield is getting killed and Sydney's pressure is like ours was in September last year. Our pressure around the contest is nowhere near where our game style requires it to be.
Spot on. We are trying to play like it's dry.

[DOG GOD]

The only way we can get anywhere back in the game is to pretend the oval is only 20 metres wide...get the ball and bomb it down the guts...forget the flanks, and forget going backwards or across ground....argh!!!!!

[bornadog]

Not much to like there. Midfield bloody awful and and our talls......... We just seem to have too many players having significant quiet patches during games. JJ is he playing? Hunter? Bont? Wood? Roughead?Stringer?Dickson?Cloke?Roberts?Picken? the list goes on.

They all need to do something in the second half. Caleb playing a lone hand. The delivery to the forward line has been pathetic to say the least.

[jeemak]

The strategy of having Bontempelli play for the Swans for the first 45 minutes was clearly not a good one.

Why Jong lay limp on the ground leading up to that holding the ball instead of thrashing around is beyond my talents to understand. He's been playing football for ages, he should have known better. I nearly spat out my food.

We are really slow to adjust to the conditions sometimes. Our over handballing not only increases our chances of turning it over, but it allows numbers to get back. It seems with this approach we have a huge cluster of players close enough to the ball to get a handball receive, and when we finally kick no players where the ball eventually ends up.

Hunter, Stringer, Cloke and Dickson need to be better.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

There has to be some KPI's that Libba is not yet hitting to remain out of the team. I'm hard pressed to see what they are when compared to what some of those currently in the team are dishing up.

[G-Mo77]

They all need to do something in the second half. Caleb playing a lone hand. The delivery to the forward line has been pathetic to say the least.

Very few clean entries. We're under constant pressure and need to be quicker making a decision. Closing the gap on this horrible ground is a pretty easy task, hesitate and the gaps close up pretty quickly.

[SonofScray]

We are going terribly and it is emphasising the absolute horror show scenario the umpires are dishing up for us. All that priming and looking from Sydney over 9 months and the stuff today has had an impact. Getting screwed.

[Twodogs]

The good news is there is plenty of improvement in us.

[Happy Days]

If they're omitting players on form i.e Libba, Bont needs a spell. He has only given frees away. IMO he's keeping his spot based on the fact he MIGHT have a good 15 minutes.

Dude

[G-Mo77]

We are going terribly and it is emphasising the absolute horror show scenario the umpires are dishing up for us. All that priming and looking from Sydney over 9 months and the stuff today has had an impact. Getting screwed.

Look we've had some rough ones. 2 HTB's when tackled round the neck come to mind but lets be honest we're 2nd to the ball and not laying many decent tackles. Do we deserve the frees?

[westbulldog]

The bookies knew

[DOG GOD]

There has to be some KPI's that Libba is not yet hitting to remain out of the team. I'm hard pressed to see what they are when compared to what some of those currently in the team are dishing up.
Absolutely, how Libba is not playing when hunter and suckling are doing jack all is beyond me.
Mboyd should have never played ahead of Williams.

[bulldogtragic]

The bookies knew

Taking money off optimistic doggies fans should be a crime. They should all know better and need protection.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I know Bont has been largely ineffective, but its misleading. He's getting caught because those options for quick release by hand are not available. Its meaning he is holding on to the ball longer in tight and having to scan for the 2nd, 3rd and even 4th iption.
Not good enough from a team whose success is built upon 100% effort from all at all times.

[AndrewP6]

Dude

What has he offered tonight? He's looked off most games this year, his ability to turn on for 15 minutes covering it IMO.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Umpires not worth bringing up IMO. Sydney have had the run of the green but they're the ones making the play, when you make the play inevitably you get the good fortune of free kicks. They're proactive and we're reactive.

[Happy Days]

We just aren't affecting enough contests. There's far too much waiting for error rather than playing to a body; it's not that we aren't playing the conditions, more that we're overthinking them.

Adams is being isolated far too often. Wood needs to get on his bike and give him a better chop out.

Fancy Papley telling Biggs he shirked a contest. I can't stand players who aren't elite talents and haven't achieved anything trying to "get under guy's skin".

The game is also objectively horrible.

[Happy Days]

What has he offered tonight? He's looked off most games this year, his ability to turn on for 15 minutes covering it IMO.

Looked off most games this year yet a consensus AA across all teams selected in reputable media.

DROP BONT come on.

[Rocket Science]

If they'd kicked straight, this'd be over.

[bulldogtragic]

I have a really, really bad feeling about this. Like losing percentage bad. This re-start is shit.

[bornadog]

We make duds like Reid look good

[kruder]

Still playing like its dry

[Happy Days]

And now Dahl is dead.

We look s-l-o-w.

[bulldogtragic]

We make duds like Reid look good

And then we will throw him a big offer to realise he's actually shit...

[Happy Days]

And then we will throw him a big offer to realise he's actually shit...

Like two years or something?

[bulldogtragic]

Sub Moyd. Or play with 17. FFS.

[bornadog]

Matty Boyd embarrassing

[jeemak]

Yeah, Boyd needs to play at Footscray for a little while. He's just not sharp enough.

[bulldogtragic]

Yeah, Boyd needs to play at Footscray for a little while. He's just not sharp enough.

You're very kind.

WTF was that Roughead.

[G-Mo77]

Take the dam shot at goal.

[Rocket Science]

Sub Moyd. Or play with 17. FFS.

We already are - Cloke's out there.

I was bullish on signing him.

I was wrong.

[G-Mo77]

Tobias having a real good night.

[Eastdog]

Dicko! Back to 19 so right in it. Work harder Dogs!!

[AndrewP6]

Looked off most games this year yet a consensus AA across all teams selected in reputable media.

DROP BONT come on.

I'll leave the "reputable media" argument for another time, but the AA argument only reinforces my point -form hasn't dictated his inclusion, but reputation.

Anyway Stringer had finally lifted.

[bulldogtragic]

Why we make shit talks look good I don't know. It's *!*!*!*!ing embarrassing.

[bornadog]

We are desperate for some tall KP backs.

[bornadog]

I am sick of the club trying to play blokes like Wood and Morris as a tall,

[jeemak]

Sam Reid is killing us.

[ratsmac]

We lifted but Sydney lifted more. Go figure

[bulldogtragic]

Dead.

[jeemak]

The Swans midfield is pissing all over ours. We are not committed and are putting in an utterly pathetic performance.

We are much too comfortable with ourselves as a team.

[Happy Days]

On the plus side this game bodes well for our contract negotiations with JJ.

[kruder]

Why we make shit talks look good I don't know. It's *!*!*!*!ing embarrassing.

Wood has been poor all year I'm not sure why people are talking about Boyd and Cloke. We all know they are close to the end.

[Mantis]

Sam Reid is killing us.

Why have Roberts on Sinclair who couldn't catch a cold?

[G-Mo77]

I am sick of the club trying to play blokes like Wood and Morris as a tall,

Having another big would only slow us more unless it's in place of English. Cordy on the other hand would have been a nice In for us.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Forget the ridiculous calls for Bont to be the scapegoat for our ills. He at least is getting to contests. Its Picken, Jong, Hunter , Suckling, JJ, Cloke, Boyd and Dale who are hurting us most. Picken in particular is just a plain liability for the last 6 or so weeks.

[G-Mo77]

What has Adams done?

[AndrewP6]

Now an inside 50 entry is paid as deliberate out of bounds. FFS the umpires don't have to be ridiculed, they do it all by themselves

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Suckling had a massive chance to catch his opponent in our forward pocket. Pathetic effort resulting in an easy release to their forward line. He has to go.

[G-Mo77]

Now an inside 50 entry is paid as deliberate out of bounds. FFS the umpires don't have to be ridiculed, they do it all by themselves

Just awful wasn't it.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Well done Dahl. He's really lifted his output.

[jeemak]

Forget the ridiculous calls for Bont to be the scapegoat for our ills. He at least is getting to contests. Its Picken, Jong, Hunter , Suckling, JJ and Dale who are hurting us most. Picken in particular is just a plain liability for the last 6 or so weeks.

Correct. Picken has been really ordinary for a number of weeks.

Hunter annoys me no end with his arms flailing all over the place and falling over when he doesn't need to.

I can forgive Dale, he's still getting into his career.

[Eastdog]

Wood and Dahl keep us in it! So important those last 2 goals.

[bulldogtragic]

You're shit Moyd. *!*!*!*!ing shit!!!!!!

[G-Mo77]

English #1 ruck. Roughy defence. Adams injured

[bulldogtragic]

That's on you twice Moyd. FFS.

[jeemak]

How the hell isn't that in the back to Roughead?

What a *!*!*!*!ing joke this game is.

[bulldogtragic]

How the hell isn't that in the back to Roughead?

What a *!*!*!*!ing joke this game is.

Because of the media attention. It's killed us week after week, especially Geelong and this week.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Bevo and match committee has absolutely got it wrong tonight with English and M. Boyd.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Because of the media attention. It's killed us week after week, especially Geelong and this week.

This seens like definite payback for perceived umpiring wrongs in the GF.

[Rocket Science]

Go home umpires. You're drunk.

[bulldogtragic]

Moyd again, you *!*!*!*!ing old hack, *!*!*!*! hou, *!*!*!*!, why didn't you retire for *!*!*!*! sake. *!*!*!*!. *!*!*!*!.

[westbulldog]

Socceroos 2 all on Fox 506:)

[G-Mo77]

How the hell isn't that in the back to Roughead?

What a *!*!*!*!ing joke this game is.

Worst thing out of that was Papley just casually picking the ball up under no pressure and kicking it. Watch that whole sequence again. Some of the most gutless efforts you will see.

[lemmon]

Boyd might need his papers stamped after this. Shocking display.

[bulldogtragic]

Just making up frees now. How come Bonts doesn't have the Kennedy or Dangerwood treatment?

[jeemak]

Worst thing out of that was Papley just casually picking the ball up under no pressure and kicking it. Watch that whole sequence again. Some of the most gutless efforts you will see.

I picked up on that at the time.

[bulldogtragic]

Boyd might need his papers stamped after this. Shocking display.

I'm happy to volunteer to stamp them.

[G-Mo77]

Moyd again, you *!*!*!*!ing old hack, *!*!*!*! hou, *!*!*!*!, why didn't you retire for *!*!*!*! sake. *!*!*!*!. *!*!*!*!.

As frustrated as everyone is show some respect.

[bornadog]

This has been the worst display of dinky handballs I have seen. Have any hit a target?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

How can Bevo keep justifying Boyds position?

I can't help but feel our selections this year have been wrong on far too many occasions.

[bulldogtragic]

As frustrated as everyone is show some respect.

Ok, I hope he never plays again. Ever.

[Eastdog]

Big final term. Cmon Dogs believe!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Anyone got a bead on Adam's injury?

[G-Mo77]

How can Bevo keep justifying Boyds position?

I can't help but feel our selections this year have been wrong on far too many occasions.

Suckling as well. I'll take a kid who can't hit the side of the shed over his left foot which sadly is all he has.

[Happy Days]

Does anyone else other than Macrae know that you're meant to pass the ball to players on your *own* team?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I think a few of our guys look underdone. Roughy, Boyd, Cloke snd, even Wallis and Dicko too.

[bornadog]

The big man department has been pathetic to say the least. Cloke, Roberts, Roughead, English may as well not be playing. throw in Stringer with 8 disposals, JJ with 9, Jong with 10. Moyd 16 disposals all to Swans, no wonder we aren't winning.

[Happy Days]

Ok, I hope he never plays again. Ever.

I'd rather see him hit 400 than have to suffer through another minute of Cloke.

[bulldogtragic]

23 scoring shots to 9.

That's in the category of embarrassing.

[G-Mo77]

I think a few of our guys look underdone. Roughy, Boyd, Cloke snd, even Wallis and Dicko too.

But how can they be. Week off, they should be fresh.

[bulldogtragic]

I'd rather see him hit 400 then have to suffer through another minute of Cloke.

I'm not sure either will be playing much unless their VFL form is sublime. It's bad.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Suckling as well. I'll take a kid who can't hit the side of the shed over his left foot which sadly is all he has.

Yep.

Brings very little to the side.

[bulldogtragic]

But how can they be. Week off, they should be fresh.

And two weeks to prepare. I'm quite shocked by this.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Our tackling is putrid. We just are letting hands get free way to easy.
Our worst performance this year. No way back i think.

[bulldogtragic]

What was that Picken, other than putrid.

[Rocket Science]

Picker's kicking tonight.

Oof.

[Eastdog]

Men of mayhem needs to come back!

[bulldogtragic]

Only a few points off dropping behind WCE percentage.

[Mantis]

Picker's kicking tonight.

Oof.

And then that effort.. Has been terrible.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

As frustrated as everyone is show some respect.

Agree Boyd is simply a number of poor players tonight. Selection of English was puzzling and always a risk. With Jong Picken and Bontempelli all struggling it makes you realise how much Libba is missed. Adams is now a big loss. Cloke a big worry is ineffectual. Kennedy Parker and Hannebery have been dominant in the midfield. Courageous efforts by Dahl who doesn't give up. Our forward line a big worry when Jake doesn't fire.

[jeemak]

Picken is looking cooked as well.

Wallis absolutely rammed in the back in the centre. Nothing paid. Again.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Every game this year, apart from Saints game has had alarm bells. This has them tolling loud.
We have big problems that would seem endemic and not easily fixed.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

As frustrated as everyone is show some respect.

Agree Boyd is simply a number of poor players tonight. Selection of English was puzzling and always a risk. With Jong Picken and Bontempelli all struggling it makes you realise how much Libba is missed. Adams is now a big loss. Cloke a big worry is ineffectual. Kennedy Parker and Hannebery have been dominant in the midfield. Courageous efforts by Dahl who doesn't give up. Our forward line a big worry when Jake doesn't fire.

[hujsh]

Do we have to wait til next week to start dropping guys or can we start now?

Boyd and Cloke front of the queue. Plenty right behind them

[jeemak]

Picken is looking cooked as well.

Wallis absolutely rammed in the back in the centre. Nothing paid. Again.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Double post

[kruder]

Picker's kicking tonight.

Oof.

The first time in his career he is actually scared to go at the footy. Its been noticeable tonight.

[Mantis]

Nice to ask for ridiculous coin JJ, but play like you deserve it.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Very little spirit out there, been pushed around all night and just taken it. JJ is absolutely spooked..

Is something else going on within the club?

[bulldogtragic]

I have a really, really bad feeling about this. Like losing percentage bad. This re-start is shit.

It's killed our percentage.

[G-Mo77]

Very little spirit out there, been pushed around all night and just taken it. JJ is absolutely spooked..

That's why I'm so disgusted. Someone pushes you, you push them back. They made their intentions known before the bounce and we've just stepped back.

[Remi Moses]

I'm watching dance moms
Life doesn't get worse than this

[bulldogtragic]

Man if the Comey hearing tonight is as bad as this I'm going to spew.

[AndrewP6]

I'm watching dance moms
Life doesn't get worse than this

I'm seriously considering looking at my reports (I'm a teacher). THAT is pretty much as bad as it gets!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I haven't seen us this loose checking across all lines for so long i can't recall who it would've been against. Maybe west coast in Oerth a couple of years ago?

[bulldogtragic]

I'm seriously considering looking at my reports (I'm a teacher). THAT is pretty much as bad as it gets!

Fail them all. :D

[bulldogtragic]

Moyd again...

[Rocket Science]

Reckon Hunter needs the Libba treatment.

[Mantis]

Reckon Hunter needs the Libba treatment.

Not the only one.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

As much of a warrior Boyd has been, if he keeps his place next week then the match committee is lost.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

That's why I'm so disgusted. Someone pushes you, you push them back. They made their intentions known before the bounce and we've just stepped back.

It's very concerning - we haven't ever been like this under Bevo.

Something looks off about our lack of spirit.

[lemmon]

Mmm how good were the 'Men of Mayhem' days?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

The umpiring just gets worse to make a crap night go up a notch.

[G-Mo77]

Reckon Hunter needs the Libba treatment.

Probably should have been before Libba.

We've got to find the hunger again. This is a side resting on what happened in 2016. I don't care how many players, coaches or officials deny it we're hungover badly.

[bulldogtragic]

Insufficient Intent is back!

[Happy Days]

Insufficient Intent is back!

Gil's had his legacy-making dick-swinging week in China, now it's time to get back to irreparably ruining the game forever.

[Rocket Science]

Insufficient Intent is back!

Alas, you could be talking about us...

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

The ease with which Sydney get away from a congestion is hard to stomach given the commitment our guys have shown over the past 2 years to this area makes my stomach churn.

[bulldogtragic]

JJ might want to sign our contract and focus on playing, not playing for money in other contract possibilities.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Nobody helping JJ at all - wonder if the contract stuff has turned others offside?

[Rocket Science]

Silver linings ... Swans might've done us a favour by shaving a couple of hundred K off JJ's next deal.

[Funke disco]

Really struggling. Reminds me of the first game vs Geelong last last year where they smashed us and made us look so far from it. Really need Libba back AND playing well. Daniel and Adams were great first half and Dahlhaus in the second

[jeemak]

Very little spirit out there, been pushed around all night and just taken it. JJ is absolutely spooked..

Is something else going on within the club?

Something doesn't seem right and hasn't for much of the year.

Whether it's just complacency (a little like the Hawks in 2009) or something more sinister I'm not sure. I get the impression that a number of our players are very very happy with themselves and think they're the bees knees. I also get the impression there's a significant party culture within elements of the playing group, and it wouldn't surprise me too much to learn that a number of them got completely wasted quite often.

I could be off the mark of course, but you pick up on bits and pieces with a bit of experience.

[bornadog]

Really struggling. Reminds me of the first game vs Geelong last last year where they smashed us and made us look so far from it. Really need Libba back AND playing well. Daniel and Adams were great first half and Dahlhaus in the second

Worse game for a year . Haven't lost a game by more than 4 goals since then.

[bulldogtragic]

27 scoring shots to 11.

Not even three a quarter...

[Sedat]

Worst performance under Bevo from what I've seen - alternating between this and the WCQ and the soccer is winning my TV time

[Rocket Science]

Well that felt like painful, public punishment. And entirely deserved.

Melbourne next week. And they'll fancy themselves.

[jeemak]

I'm loving the smugness of Sydney. A bit like GWS, with the way they're carrying on it's if they beat us in last years finals and we didn't win the flag last year.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Something doesn't seem right and hasn't for much of the year.

Whether it's just complacency (a little like the Hawks in 2009) or something more sinister I'm not sure. I get the impression that a number of our players are very very happy with themselves and think they're the bees knees. I also get the impression there's a significant party culture within elements of the playing group, and it wouldn't surprise me too much to learn that a number of them got completely wasted quite often.

I could be off the mark of course, but you pick up on bits and pieces with a bit of experience.

Agree completely.

Beveridge and the coaching group have an enormous task on their hands.

[Happy Days]

I'm loving the smugness of Sydney. A bit like GWS, with the way they're carrying on it's if they beat us in last years finals and we didn't win the flag last year.

Had to laugh when George "Allegedly Played in the Grand Final" Hewett started mouthing off.

[Sedat]

Will be good to have the media blowtorch on us next week - we've been off broadway all season but that will change.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Rampe and Hewitt laughing and mimicking pushing JJ all game.

Embarrassing what we served up just then - really embarrassing.

[jeemak]

Had to laugh when George "Allegedly Played in the Grand Final" Hewett started mouthing off.

I know. People just lose perspective when they cross the white line sometimes.

[bulldogtragic]

Well, Cersei Lannister is feeling better tonight knowing that our walk of shame on the SCG was more embarrassing than hers. Maybe she'll chill a bit now.

[Sedat]

Not often you can say that a 46 point loss is a percentage saver - 71 inside 50's to 39, +10 clearances, +15 CP's. Should have been an 80+ point loss.

[bulldogtragic]

Not often you can say that a 46 point loss is a percentage saver - 71 inside 50's to 39, +10 clearances, +15 CP's. Should have been an 80+ point loss.

Still took 6% off us, and I dare say positions this year will be highly dependent on percentage.

[GVGjr]

Worst performance under Bevo from what I've seen - alternating between this and the WCQ and the soccer is winning my TV time

I think we got it very wrong at the selection table but Bevo's faith in players hasn't been repaid tonight.
We've been pretending that everything is OK and we would get it all together when it counted but we aren't firing.

Injuries have played their part but there is more to it than that.

[SonofScray]

An atrocious performance across the board, by any measure. Really went against the identity of this team which was the hardest part to stomach. We were not persistent, we were not dogged, we were not tough. They came out with the intent to bully us and we rolled over. Shameful.

The inability to take a contested mark anywhere from the wing all the way forward killed us. Just upped the degree of difficulty beyond belief. Same issues that have hurt us all year got us again. Poor kicking, poor coverage at the coal face, poor ruck work. It was a circus.

We should've got stuck into Jones and looked after JJ a bit.

Umpiring was atrocious, set the tone early and we never rallied.

[always right]

Moyd again, you *!*!*!*!ing old hack, *!*!*!*! hou, *!*!*!*!, why didn't you retire for *!*!*!*! sake. *!*!*!*!. *!*!*!*!.

He was appalling and his career is sadly at an end it seems.....but your comment is nothing short of a disgrace.

[S Coast Simon]

The sort of night Libba and corny would have been handy. They were just to hard at it. I wondered why our players just let Sydney bump and rough us up all night. The only time I seen anyone hit back was Adams on the boundary to the smug little Papley. He'd had enough. That was it. I wonder if you are correct in saying no one stood up for JJ. Hewett bumped him all night someone had to run through him. We need an enforcer

[Flamethrower]

This game was lost at selection - hope the media go hard after the coach & match committee.

[G-Mo77]

This game was lost at selection - hope the media go hard after the coach & match committee.

The performances on the field didn't help much either. Selections were strange but even if we got it right, with that effort, results would have been the same.

[kruder]

Still took 6% off us, and I dare say positions this year will be highly dependent on percentage.

I'd be more worried about that fact that not one player on the list has improved this year.

[Sedat]

I think we got it very wrong at the selection table but Bevo's faith in players hasn't been repaid tonight.
We've been pretending that everything is OK and we would get it all together when it counted but we aren't firing.

Injuries have played their part but there is more to it than that.
I get that the selections were puzzling but what I saw tonight was a lack of intensity and an ease of transition with the ball by the Swans. It was a most un-Bevo like performance by us irrespective of the personnel.

[always right]

That was without doubt the most insipid performance put out by our blokes in a long long time.
Poor selection and poor coaching on the night. Bevo is king but he deserves some of the blame for the English and Boyd selections.

I can't recall our key players being so out of form......Bont, Picken, Hunter and Libba. It's a long way back from here I'm afraid. Before tonight I still felt we are right in the mix but now I'm not sure the hunger is there for us to challenge. Feeling as flat as a tack.

[always right]

I'd be more worried about that fact that not one player on the list has improved this year.

Apart from Jong.....although he was poor tonight for second game in a row.

[bulldogtragic]

He was appalling and his career is sadly at an end it seems.....but your comment is nothing short of a disgrace.

I took it back, and kept it back.

[LostDoggy]

I'd be more worried about that fact that not one player on the list has improved this year.

Adams?
Dale?
Jong?

Those three surely have improved on last year. Some others have taken huge backwards steps though eg Hunter

[bulldogtragic]

Will be good to have the media blowtorch on us next week - we've been off broadway all season but that will change.

It's going to be a hard week for the coach and players.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Really massive period upcoming for Bont now. Feel as if for the first time in his short career he is carrying the pressure instead of feeding off it and owning it, as he has done until recently.

He is far off our worst, in terms of effort and commitment but his clearly weighted down by something.

[Sedat]

It's going to be a hard week for the coach and players.
I see that as a positive to be honest. We need a collective kick up the arse and tonight's effort to deliver that. May as well get a harsh reality check in R12 rather than coast along and get a rude shock later in the season.

The tactics on JJ were very effective - no issue at all with what the Swans did to him. Expect to see a lot more of this moving forward.

[always right]

A few have commented on the lack of protection for JJ. Fair enough but I was really annoyed at JJ's feeble acceptance of his treatment. I know it's not in his character but FFS show some fight man. Thanks to your (lack of) response you can now expect every team to adopt the same approach. Hard to stomach that you were just owned my George Hewitt. George F**ken Hewitt.

[bulldogtragic]

Really massive period upcoming for Bont now. Feel as if for the first time in his short career he is carrying the pressure instead of feeding off it and owning it, as he has done until recently.

He is far off our worst, in terms of effort and commitment but his clearly weighted down by something.

I think Darcy said in the last 3 games he's kicked 1.8. Many very gettable too. I wonder if he's physically carrying something.

[LostDoggy]

Is it possible that JJ has made a decision and just wants out now. He certainly didn't show much bulldog spirit tonight

[kruder]

Adams?
Dale?
Jong?

Those three surely have improved on last year. Some others have taken huge backwards steps though eg Hunter

Adams played great footy last year but Ill give you Jong. Dale hasn't played consistent enough yet to say he has improved significantly. Thats 1 out of how many on the list? get my drift?

[bulldogtragic]

I see that as a positive to be honest. We need a collective kick up the arse and tonight's effort to deliver that. MAy as well get a reality check in R12 rather than coast along and get a rude shock later in the season.

I agree. But not sure how it will work. Ideally you'd make no changes and say 'go get your honour back'. But we can't accept even minimal changes, that was the worst loss in the Bevo Era.

[GVGjr]

Is it possible that JJ has made a decision and just wants out now. He certainly didn't show much bulldog spirit tonight

You would hope not, he's a popular player within the group and it would be disappointing if his heart isn't in it.
I suspect he's just had a very bad night.

[whythelongface]

Are we similar to Hawthorn in '08 and '09?Snatching an unlikely flag then dropping off significantly the following year? Or can we find some form coming into the 2nd half of the year? I think we are gone and will struggle to make the eight. Can Bevo find a way to lead us out of this slump or is Bevo also struggling with tactics and selections?

[LostDoggy]

It is a little concerning. As I said I think the bigger problem is the players who've gone backwards. And not just te older guys

[kruder]

Anyone know what's wrong with Adams? Channel 7 gave us nothing during the game as usual.

[Remi Moses]

I see that as a positive to be honest. We need a collective kick up the arse and tonight's effort to deliver that. May as well get a harsh reality check in R12 rather than coast along and get a rude shock later in the season.

The tactics on JJ were very effective - no issue at all with what the Swans did to him. Expect to see a lot more of this moving forward.
Some of the efforts were just abysmal. It's now the blueprint on how to play on JJ

[The Bulldogs Bite]

You would hope not, he's a popular player within the group and it would be disappointing if his heart isn't in it.
I suspect he's just had a very bad night.

Everyone has bad nights but why was he spiritless? Why were his team mates spiritless? It just looked 'off' - nobody was interested in standing up for him.

[bulldogtragic]

I'm concerned about Adams. Not even coming to sit on the pine the last half.

[Remi Moses]

Anyone know what's wrong with Adams? Channel 7 gave us nothing during the game as usual.

Looks like an ankle, but gee two games on that ground and 2 injuries

[GVGjr]

Are we similar to Hawthorn in '08 and '09?Snatching an unlikely flag then dropping off significantly the following year? Or can we find some form coming into the 2nd half of the year? I think we are gone and will struggle to make the eight. Can Bevo find a way to lead us out of this slump or is Bevo also struggling with tactics and selections?

I don't like the comparison because it diminishes last seasons outstanding result as a bit of a fluke. I tend to think we traded poorly and have tended to mess around with selections. We also haven't improved our foot skills.

I wouldn't write Bevo off on getting us back on track but it's to happen soon.

[SonofScray]

A few have commented on the lack of protection for JJ. Fair enough but I was really annoyed at JJ's feeble acceptance of his treatment. I know it's not in his character but FFS show some fight man. Thanks to your (lack of) response you can now expect every team to adopt the same approach. Hard to stomach that you were just owned my George Hewitt. George F**ken Hewitt.

Agree with this, and it goes for Jong too. Each of those blokes just passively accepted the bumps etc. I expect our players to either up their intensity at the contest, or bite back, hard. No one made them accountable for it. I get that footy is different from when and where I played, but I would've gouged Jones' eyes out in a pack for his bullshit niggle.

[G-Mo77]

I'm concerned about Adams. Not even coming to sit on the pine the last half.

Moon boot post game in the rooms.

[bulldogtragic]

Moon boot post game in the rooms.

Oh goody. The cherry on top of a shit sundae.

[Sedat]

Even though we've not been at our best, we have been nothing short of honest in every game this year until tonight - whilst I'm really disappointed with our performance I'm prepared to write it off as a collective shocker, which to be fair the players have hardly delivered in 2 and a 1/2 years under Bevo. And it came after a very strong performance against St Kilda, which to be frank we let slip a potential 10 goal win.

I expect to see a strong response next week.

[Eastdog]

Well that was a bad one. Did not look like it tonight. There were some brief moments in the 2nd and 3rd quarters that looked a bit more promising but the negatives outnumbered the positives.

The good: Dahlhaus, Wallis, Adams when he was playing and Mclean in the 1st quarter looked quite good.

The bad: M Boyd could be nearer the end very shortly, Cloke and Stringer very poor tonight - Stringer the opposite pretty much compared to the last game where he kicked 5 and look really good up forward. Bonti and Picko are out of form.

We did not have clean hands tonight and dropped the ball quite a lot and the turnovers no good.

We have a lot to do to get out of this hole and hopefully this is an abberation like the Cats game around this time last year and we get on with it and push on and get into the 8 first and foremost before thinking of the top 4 until we are in a position to get in there.