The official 2017 TandT Who to Root for Thread

[Throughandthrough]

OK trendetters, here it is. The official. often copied but never bettered "who to root for" thread. T.M. pat. pending.

For those who came in late, this will guide you on who to barrack for each week, for the greater good of our beloved dogs.

Please be aware, there are weeks where you may have to barrack for horrible teams such as the Crows....or Collingwood!

And also, i'm completely unaccountable and as the season pans out previously you may have had a root that you thought was a good idea at the time, but you are now ashamed of and hope no one noticed.

As i always so root early, root often and root again

Current ladder



Pos Team P W L D B F A % Pts
1 GWS Giants 13 10 3 0 1 1348 1119 120.46 40
2 Adelaide Crows 13 9 4 0 1 1508 1102 136.84 36
3 Geelong Cats 13 9 4 0 1 1308 1147 114.04 36
4 Port Adelaide 13 8 5 0 1 1355 1001 135.36 32

5 Melbourne 13 8 5 0 1 1 320 1151 114.68 32
6 Richmond 13 8 5 0 1 1 135 1016 111.71 32
7 West Coast Eagles 13 7 6 0 1162 1138 102.11 28
8 St Kilda 13 7 6 0 1 1138 1162 97.93 28

9 Western Bulldogs 13 7 6 0 1084 1118 96.96 28
10 Sydney Swans 13 6 7 0 1 1156 1099 105.19 24
11 Essendon 13 6 7 0 1 1228 1197 102.59 24
12 Fremantle 13 6 7 0 1 991 1245 79.60 24
13 Collingwood 13 5 8 0 1 1131 1144 98.86 20
14 Gold Coast Suns 13 5 8 01 1150 1326 86.73 20
15 Carlton 13 5 8 0 1 940 1150 81.74 20
16 Hawthorn 13 5 8 0 1 1043 1313 79.44 20
17 North Melbourne 13 4 9 0 1210 1296 93.36 16
18 Brisbane Lions 13 2 11 0 1 1070 1553 68.90 8


Who to root for this week, in order of importance:

1 WBU vs WCE . Classic 8 point match, although when we win we will only get 4 points.

Not sure about the order of the rest but this will do

MELB v SWANS
PORT v RICH
BLUES v CROWS
GIANTS v CATS
FREO v SAINTS
ESS v BRI
SUNS v KAN
HAW v COLL

[bulldogtragic]

Yeh!

[ratsmac]

I don't know if I can ever change my default settings and actually barrack for Essendon or Collingwood when the time comes.

[bornadog]

I don't know if I can ever change my default settings and actually barrack for Essendon or Collingwood when the time comes.

If it helps us, well why not have a root.

[Bulldog Joe]

1 WBU vs WCE . Classic 8 point match, although when we win we will only get 4 points.

Not sure about the order of the rest but this will do

MELB v SWANS
PORT v RICH
BLUES v CROWS
GIANTS v CATS
FREO v SAINTS
ESS v BRI
SUNS v KAN
HAW v COLL

Think I prefer Melbourne as I would prefer Swans totally removed from finals contention.

Port v Richmond either way.

Blues over Crows is a no brainer, even if extremely unlikely.

Giants over Cats to give the Cats some chance of dropping out of at least top 4 and maybe the 8.

Freo over Saints I am with.

Brisbane over Essendon would be heroic but can't see it at Etihad.

Suns over Kangas is possibly irrelevant but our best result would be Kangas, except for always preferring them to lose.

Hawthorn v Collingwood is either way but Hawthorn need the lesson of irrelevance, while Collingwood are good to provide with unfulfilled hope.

[westdog54]

I don't know if I can ever change my default settings and actually barrack for Essendon or Collingwood when the time comes.

Just lie back and think of England.

[westdog54]

Think I prefer Melbourne as I would prefer Swans totally removed from finals contention.

Port v Richmond either way.

Blues over Crows is a no brainer, even if extremely unlikely.

Giants over Cats to give the Cats some chance of dropping out of at least top 4 and maybe the 8.

Freo over Saints I am with.

Brisbane over Essendon would be heroic but can't see it at Etihad.

Suns over Kangas is possibly irrelevant but our best result would be Kangas, except for always preferring them to lose.

Hawthorn v Collingwood is either way but Hawthorn need the lesson of irrelevance, while Collingwood are good to provide with unfulfilled hope.

I'm inclined to agree about Melbourne. We're more likely to overtake Sydney than Melbourne.

I dare say we'll be rooting constantly for the Kangaroos' opponents for the Hrovat compo.

Agree about the others.

[ledge]

The Hrovat deal is added reason to want the Roos to lose every week.

[Throughandthrough]

I don't know if I can ever change my default settings and actually barrack for Essendon or Collingwood when the time comes.



If I can barrack for the Crows, you can barrack for Essendon or Collingwood. No reason to tell anyone else, after the event.

[LostDoggy]

If I can barrack for the Crows, you can barrack for Essendon or Collingwood. No reason to tell anyone else, after the event.

I cant evenly secretly root for the fruit tingles.

[Twodogs]

I don't know if I can ever change my default settings and actually barrack for Essendon or Collingwood when the time comes.


Sometimes you have to take one for the team. Try and remember that it's not all about you.

Go on, you do this one and we'll cover you next week.

[LostDoggy]

My advice - Just jump straight in the shower afterwards and wash off a dirty root. You will be fine.

[Throughandthrough]

Who to root for this week, in order of importance:

1 WBU vs WCE . BIG FAIL

MELB v SWANS YEP
PORT v RICH YEP
BLUES v CROWS NUP
GIANTS v CATS GET BACK TO YOU ON THIS
FREO v SAINTS NOPE
ESS v BRI YEP
SUNS v KAN NUP
HAW v COLL YEP

Doing this weeks early as in Melb this week

Ladder

1
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 14 10 3 1 1416 1187 119.3 42
2
ADELAIDE 14 10 4 0 1597 1179 135.5 40
3
GEELONG 14 9 4 1 1376 1215 113.3 38
4
RICHMOND 14 9 5 0 1211 1079 112.2 36
5
PORT ADELAIDE 14 8 6 0 1418 1077 131.7 32
6
MELBOURNE 14 8 6 0 1370 1236 110.8 32
7
WEST COAST 14 8 6 0 1249 1218 102.5 32
8
ST KILDA 14 8 6 0 1227 1242 98.8 32
9
SYDNEY 14 7 7 0 1241 1149 108 28
10
BULLDOGS 14 7 7 0 1164 1205 96.6 28
11
ESSENDON 14 6 8 0 1310 1287 101.8 24
12
GOLD COAST 14 6 8 0 1268 1425 89 24
13
HAWTHORN 14 6 8 0 1161 1407 82.5 24
14
FREMANTLE 14 6 8 0 1071 1334 80.3 24
15
COLLINGWOOD 14 5 9 0 1225 1262 97.1 20
16
CARLTON 14 5 9 0 1017 1239 82.1 20
17
NORTH MELBOURNE 14 4 10 0 1309 1414 92.6 16
18
BRISBANE 14 3 11 0 1160 1635 70.9 12


Next week in Order

Adel v DOGS

GAP

Still not sure of order

Carl v Melb
WCE v Port
Bris v Geel
ST K v Rich

Syd v GC
Haw v GWS

Coll v Ess
NM v Frew

[Sedat]

Big weekend coming up with 4 games between top 9 teams. Of those matches the key results for us are Port to beat Melbourne and GWS to beat Richmond, which will keep both Richmond and Melbourne right back with the chasing pack. Wishful thinking but would love Norf to do us a favour and beat the Dopers - not holding my breath. Collingwood to beat West Coke in Melbourne would be very handy a well. Syd v St Kilda is kind of handy and kind of crap either way.

And of course us to beat GC in Cairns.

[bornadog]

Big weekend coming up with 4 games between top 9 teams. Of those matches the key results for us are Port to beat Melbourne and GWS to beat Richmond, which will keep both Richmond and Melbourne right back with the chasing pack. Wishful thinking but would love Norf to do us a favour and beat the Dopers - not holding my breath. Collingwood to beat West Coke in Melbourne would be very handy a well. Syd v St Kilda is kind of handy and kind of crap either way.

And of course us to beat GC in Cairns.

Some good roots there Sedat.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

We need a lot of help over the next 6 weeks. Even with 5 wins from our last 6 we could still miss out due to our poor %. We really need Essendon and West Coast to lose. I'll say the same about the saints given i think Sydney, Richmond and Melbourne will make it.

[Topdog]

Silly as it sounds we can still get top 4. With that in mind

Melbourne vs Port Adelaide
Sydney vs Saints
Richmond vs GWS
Collingwood vs West Coast

[bornadog]

Silly as it sounds we can still get top 4. With that in mind

Melbourne vs Port Adelaide
Sydney vs Saints
Richmond vs GWS
Collingwood vs West Coast

All those look like possibles, we just need to play our part.

[Sedat]

Silly as it sounds we can still get top 4. With that in mind

Melbourne vs Port Adelaide
Sydney vs Saints
Richmond vs GWS
Collingwood vs West Coast
How would Melbourne winning help us in the slightest? Port are a game and massive percentage ahead of Melbourne, who are a game and percentage ahead of us - the Demons are one of the teams we'll more than likely have to finish ahead of just to have any chance of making the top 8.

Any talk about top 4 is fanciful IMO. For mine, I want to see GWS, Port, Geelong and Adelaide win all their games against the current 5-10 teams so that as many spots as possible in the bottom half of the top 8 open up.

[boydogs]

How would Melbourne winning help us in the slightest?

That was done with top 4 in mind. Port are 4th and a game below 3rd, and therefore are the side most vulnerable to dropping out. They lose to Melbourne this week, Adelaide and us and they finish on 13 wins, we win our remaining 6 games and we get to 14 wins

[boydogs]

Go the Pies! :D

[Sedat]

Go the Pies! :D
They saved us from a crap weekend outside of our win.

[boydogs]

They saved us from a crap weekend outside of our win.

If you look at it in terms of who we wanted to lose to put them in danger of missing the 8, sure, but seeing Port & GWS get rolled gives me hope we can beat them

St Kilda's big loss puts them behind us and brings us up to 10th. Beat Essendon next week and we're 9th, beat them by 8 goals more than West Coast beat Brisbane by and we're 8th

Not sure whether to root for Brisbane to win, as we play them the week after. Maybe a big effort in Perth will take it out of them

[LostDoggy]

The good part of this round was StKilda and WCE losing. They both have very hard roads to the finals now (on the ladder predictor I have them each finishing on 11 wins), effectively leaving 9 teams in with a healthy shot for the final.sMakes next weeks Essendon match absolutely huge. The winner is really in the box seat to sneak a finals spot.

[Twodogs]

The good part of this round was StKilda and WCE losing. They both have very hard roads to the finals now (on the ladder predictor I have them each finishing on 11 wins), effectively leaving 9 teams in with a healthy shot for the final.sMakes next weeks Essendon match absolutely huge. The winner is really in the box seat to sneak a finals spot.

Is "When we win it will make storming in our inevitable finals spot a lot simpler" what you meant to say? :D we won't be sneaking into anything!

[Ozza]

This one will seem weird - but we are rooting for the Saints against Port this week.
I've been looking through our potential windows for a finals berth - of which there are very few - but Port is an opening for us.
Whereas St.Kilda's run home from here is so difficult that even if they beat Port - they still should miss finals.

St.Kilda could actually beat Port AND West Coast - and likely still miss the finals - so are definitely our ally the next two weeks.

[1eyedog]

This one will seem weird - but we are rooting for the Saints against Port this week.
I've been looking through our potential windows for a finals berth - of which there are very few - but Port is an opening for us.
Whereas St.Kilda's run home from here is so difficult that even if they beat Port - they still should miss finals.

St.Kilda could actually beat Port AND West Coast - and likely still miss the finals - so are definitely our ally the next two weeks.

The Saints are cooked, cooked, cooked.

[Ozza]

The Saints are cooked, cooked, cooked.

Went from winning 4 in a row - to getting smoked twice in a row.

[LostDoggy]

Is "When we win it will make storming in our inevitable finals spot a lot simpler" what you meant to say? :D we won't be sneaking into anything!

If we make finals we will be storming. I reckon we'll finish 8th and meet Melbourne at the MCG. Win that and our aura as barnstorming finals specialists will be massive. Jeez it'll be exciting if this eventuates.

[Throughandthrough]

Guys, i'm off overseas at the end of this week for a few weeks, i'll try and put my "tips" in but then i'll be out for a few weeks, so like everyone has been doing, all chip in with your thoughts and take one for the team!

[boydogs]

Tried to do a realistic ladder predictor, with a few variations on our results

If we win our remaining games, I have us finishing 6th and hosting Port in week 1 of finals, after having just beaten them in round 22, then playing the loser of Geelong v GWS away, the winner of Adelaide v Melbourne away and the winner of Geelong v GWS in the GF, assuming they win their home prelim

If we lose to Port but win the rest, we finish 8th and play Melbourne away, the loser of Adelaide v GWS away, the winner of Geelong v Port away and the winner of Adelaide v GWS in the GF, assuming they win their home prelim

If we lose to GWS, or Hawthorn, or Brisbane but win the rest, we finish 8th and play Richmond away, the loser of Adelaide v Melbourne away, the winner of Geelong v GWS away and the winner of Adelaide v Melbourne in the GF, assuming they win their home prelim

If we lose to Essendon but win the rest, or if we lose more than 1 game regardless of the opposition, we finish 9th or lower. We get in on 13 wins with one more loss, unless that loss is against Essendon this week

Honestly, I could see us winning our remaining games, but an interstate finals win might be too much for us this year. Our best chance could be losing to GWS/Hawthorn/Brisbane and playing Richmond, Melbourne, Geelong, Adelaide in the finals, all in Victoria

[MrMahatma]

Tried to do a realistic ladder predictor, with a few variations on our results

If we win our remaining games, I have us finishing 6th and hosting Port in week 1 of finals, after having just beaten them in round 22, then playing the loser of Geelong v GWS away, the winner of Adelaide v Melbourne away and the winner of Geelong v GWS in the GF, assuming they win their home prelim

If we lose to Port but win the rest, we finish 8th and play Melbourne away, the loser of Adelaide v GWS away, the winner of Geelong v Port away and the winner of Adelaide v GWS in the GF, assuming they win their home prelim

If we lose to GWS, or Hawthorn, or Brisbane but win the rest, we finish 8th and play Richmond away, the loser of Adelaide v Melbourne away, the winner of Geelong v GWS away and the winner of Adelaide v Melbourne in the GF, assuming they win their home prelim

If we lose to Essendon but win the rest, or if we lose more than 1 game regardless of the opposition, we finish 9th or lower. We get in on 13 wins with one more loss, unless that loss is against Essendon this week

Honestly, I could see us winning our remaining games, but an interstate finals win might be too much for us this year. Our best chance could be losing to GWS/Hawthorn/Brisbane and playing Richmond, Melbourne, Geelong, Adelaide in the finals, all in Victoria

If you made the finals this year but avoided the interstate travel, you'd be very happy, no matter what your eventual ladder position was.

[merantau]

The reality is that making the 8 will be an achievement in itself.
The side we played against the Suns was missing 8 from our Premiership team - 1 gone to Freo, 3 out injured and 4 omitted due to form.
We have been cruelled by injury again this year, had a number of players undergo surgery during the off season and a number unable to make it to the barrier for round 1.

Then we lose Crameri for the year and Cloke, who we had big hopes for, a few games in.
It has been a tough year - au unchanged line up has been a rarity. We've also had three players, Bob, Wally and BJR coming back from major, major surgery.
It's been a really challenging year. Throw in a rule change that has affected us more than any other team, then it's not surprising to find us with our backs to the wall.

[Rocket Science]

Oddly, and unhelpfully - as if the stakes weren't high enough vs the dopers this week - every team above us is drawn against teams below us this round, ie: even in a season of anything goes, you'd suggest they're all 'on paper' wins.

If we can't engineer a win on Sunday and nature takes its course it's going to be very, very tough from here.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Oddly, and unhelpfully - as if the stakes weren't high enough vs the dopers this week - every team above us is drawn against teams below us this round, ie: even in a season of anything goes, you'd suggest they're all 'on paper' wins.

If we can't engineer a win on Sunday and nature takes its course it's going to be very, very tough from here.

If we could ask the football gods to take care of us in one round from here on in, this would be the round to ask for. As you say, every team from 1-9 is playing a team from 10-18. I am too tired to bother to work out the odds of this actually occurring, but I would say it wouldn't roll around very often.

For the record it is:
Collingwood (13th) versus Adelaide (1st)
Carlton (16th) versus Geelong (2nd)
GWS (3rd) versus Freo (14th)
GC (15th) versus Richmond (4th)
Port (5th) versus Saints (11th)
Hawks (12th) versus Sydney (6th)
North (17th) versus Melbourne (7th)
WB (10th) versus Essendon (8th)

The great thing is 7 out of 9 of the lower ranked teams are at home and the only teams with long odds would probably be Freo and Brisbane (who have both shown that their best is enough nuisance value to stay in the game and if they are able to hang around they grow in confidence and are very dangerous). Worth also noting that WC and GWS have both also hit a very flat spot, are under extreme pressure in the media, and are vulnerable.

North might be 17th but they are playing down in Tassie (where they destroyed the Crows) and even if they play like they did last week they are a very good chance of knocking off the very flakey Demons.

Hawks and Collingwood are coming off a good win and Hawthorn, in particular, would be extremely confident going into the Swans game at home (especially after knocking them off earlier in the year).

GC get a few key players back and are Richmond's bogey side. Additionally, if history has taught us nothing else it is that Richmond do love to struggle the week after having a great win.

Port v Saints game is a bit of a win-win really. If Port win it almost ends the Saints season, if Port lose they fall back to the teams scrapping for a position in the 8 and consequently our matchup with them probably means we will be controlling our own destiny.

If we can do our part by beating Essendon, we could be one win and 6% or so out of the top 4. How's that for glass half full?

[boydogs]

How's that for glass half full?

You forgot that North Melbourne have a 16 game winning streak against Melbourne

[The Adelaide Connection]

You forgot that North Melbourne have a 16 game winning streak against Melbourne

The planets are aligning...

[aker39]

I heard this morning that Champion Data rate this game as the most important game of the remaining 45 games in terms of shaping the 8.

[bornadog]

I heard this morning that Champion Data rate this game as the most important game of the remaining 45 games in terms of shaping the 8.

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[boydogs]

I heard this morning that Champion Data rate this game as the most important game of the remaining 45 games in terms of shaping the 8.

We could consider ourselves unlucky if we lose to Essendon then win our remaining games to finish on 13 wins but miss the 8, but if we are a genuine contender then we should be beating middle of the road teams in Melbourne at this time of year

[Ozza]

You forgot that North Melbourne have a 16 game winning streak against Melbourne

Yeah, but you know what they say.....NOBODY beats Melbourne SEVENTEEN times in a row.

[Throughandthrough]

Yeah, but you know what they say.....NOBODY beats Melbourne SEVENTEEN times in a row.


Thanks, Vitas. (Best ever sporting quote in tn history of the world)

[Twodogs]

Yeah, but you know what they say.....NOBODY beats Melbourne SEVENTEEN times in a row.

It's never happened yet.


There are kids well into their school years who haven't lived through Melbourme beating North.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Well played Roos!

[bornadog]

Yeah, but you know what they say.....NOBODY beats Melbourne SEVENTEEN times in a row.

Maybe 18

[boydogs]

Would have been an excellent round if St Kilda hadn't fluffed their lines in the last 90 seconds

As it is Sydney & Melbourne both dropped games, and we won our 8 pointer :)

[Topdog]

Geelong vs Sydney
GWS vs Melbourne
Essendon vs Carlton
Saints vs West Coast
Richmond vs Hawthorn
Adelaide vs Port


Big week!!

[Topdog]

If that happens and obviously we win we are 6th

[ledge]

All are very possible.

[boydogs]

These results would get us top 4

Round 20
Geelong v Sydney
GWS v Melbourne
Brisbane v WB
St Kilda v West Coast
Adelaide v Port

Round 21
WB v GWS
Melbourne v St Kilda

Round 22
WB v Port

Round 23
Hawthorn v WB
Geelong v GWS

[Topdog]

crazy isnt it.

Richmond losing 3 games to

Hawthorn, Geelong, Fremantly (away) and Saints would do well too

[bornadog]

crazy isnt it.

Richmond losing 3 games to

Hawthorn, Geelong, Fremantly (away) and Saints would do well too

I don't know why but I still don't rate Richmond, so could happen.

[Twodogs]

I hate rooting for North. A tiny little bit of my soul dies each time I do it.

[Rocket Science]

I don't know why but I still don't rate Richmond, so could happen.

Because it's Richmond!

Watching them revert to type while capitalising would certainly double our fun.

[Rocket Science]

Patton out of the Giants' side with a hamstring means they're going in without him, Cameron & Greene vs Melbourne.

It hopefully also means he'll be proppy against us next week.

It's all coming together rather nicely.

[Bulldog Joe]

Patton out of the Giants' side with a hamstring means they're going in without him, Cameron & Greene vs Melbourne.

It hopefully also means he'll be proppy against us next week.

It's all coming together rather nicely.

While the 1st option of a GWS win allows us to close the gap on Melbourne, the other option is GWS to lose all remaining games and miss the 8 themselves.

[boydogs]

Geelong looking pitiful is not good for us. Hopefully Adelaide beat Sydney in round 22 so we still pass them if we win out, but another Sydney loss would have allowed us to drop a game and still go past them. We need Geelong to beat GWS in R22 as well, hopefully they're a different side with Danger back

[Bulldog Joe]

Geelong looking pitiful is not good for us. Hopefully Adelaide beat Sydney in round 22 so we still pass them if we win out, but another Sydney loss would have allowed us to drop a game and still go past them. We need Geelong to beat GWS in R22 as well, hopefully they're a different side with Danger back

Geelong may also be under pressure. They could easily lose to Richmond next week with potential outs in Selwood and Duncan. They also have a poor record against Collingwood.

It is plausible for round 23 to be a must win for both Geelong and GWS just to make the 8.
Certainly an interesting season.

[Sedat]

Right now I just want to get the points against Brisbane - anything else is a bonus.

[Bulldog4life]

Right now I just want to get the points against Brisbane - anything else is a bonus.

Agree Sedat. It's stressful enough barracking for our own team:)

[merantau]

Agree Sedat. It's stressful enough barracking for our own team:)

A stress-free Bulldogs match? I believe there was one once - but it was before my time!

[merantau]

Agree Sedat. It's stressful enough barracking for our own team:)

A stress-free Bulldogs match? I believe there was one once - but it was before my time!

[Eastdog]

I hope results from other games favour us but we just need to focus on us and winning. Hard to rely on that as results don't always go our way but if we keep winning and get some % will be fine.

[Bulldog4life]

Geelong vs Sydney
GWS vs Melbourne
Essendon vs Carlton
Saints vs West Coast
Richmond vs Hawthorn
Adelaide vs Port


Big week!!

Saints a couple of points behind at half time after being 22 points behind in that second quarter

[Rocket Science]

Is a draw preferable? (Aints/West Coke)

Cos it's a distinct possibility.

[hujsh]

Saints have it. 8 points up 24 seconds to go.

Good result for us

[bulldogtragic]

Thank you St Kilda. Thank you.

[macca]

Well done sainters they had a lot of forward 50 entries., gee josh Bruce is an ordinary kick but he knows how to mark and bullock his way to get the ball.

[ledge]

We stay 7th but my god it's clogging up under us.

[bornadog]

We stay 7th but my god it's clogging up under us.

4 teams on 1 game behind us.

[ledge]

4 teams on 1 game behind us.

Our percentage does us no favours.

[bulldogtragic]

We stay 7th but my god it's clogging up under us.


4 teams on 1 game behind us.

We might need three wins (two might do) with a pack like we have under us, especially all bar StK with better percentage.

[bornadog]

We might need three wins (two might do) with a pack like we have under us, especially all bar StK with better percentage.

Next week a couple will drop off:

Geelong v Richmond Simonds Stadium 2.10pm - opens up 4th

Essendon v Adelaide Etihad Stadium 7.25pm - could be an interesting game, Adelaide can help us here

Melbourne v St Kilda MCG 1.10pm - both on same points

[Eastdog]

Our percentage does us no favours.

Big opportunity yesterday to get some more but wasn't to be we won but only by 14 points. Still a vitally important win.

[merantau]

This has been a fair round for us. Carlton let us down as did Geelong. I think Hawthorn beating Richmond could be bad for us but I'm not sure. It's that kind of year.
I am confident we will beat GWS.

[Eastdog]

We stay 7th but my god it's clogging up under us.

It's good to be on 11 wins right now with an opportunity for 12 the way the year has gone.

[Sedat]

Next week a couple will drop off:

Geelong v Richmond Simonds Stadium 2.10pm - opens up 4th

Essendon v Adelaide Etihad Stadium 7.25pm - could be an interesting game, Adelaide can help us here

Melbourne v St Kilda MCG 1.10pm - both on same points
I want the current top 4 to keep on winning (except against us of course). Adelaide winning today for example will keep Port mired in the 5-8 pack, and it then puts our destiny in our own hands playing Port in a couple of weeks. The more teams as possible at the 10-11 win mark, the more spots in the bottom half of the 8 open up.

[bornadog]

I want the current top 4 to keep on winning (except against us of course). Adelaide winning today for example will keep Port mired in the 5-8 pack, and it then puts our destiny in our own hands playing Port in a couple of weeks. The more teams as possible at the 10-11 win mark, the more spots in the bottom half of the 8 open up.

Totally agree.

Looking like we will finish in 5th to 8th, would be nice to get a home final and set us up. Must win next three games.

[Rocket Science]

Barring a 2nd half resurrection Port well and truly soiling the bed versus the Crows.

[ledge]

Could be the biggest percentage drop ever at this rate.

[bornadog]

Geelong have Tigers, Collingwood and GWS. It is feasible they could lose all three and drop out of top 4. We win all three and could slip into top 4. Sydney have Adelaide in Adelaide.

[boydogs]

Geelong have Tigers, Collingwood and GWS. It is feasible they could lose all three and drop out of top 4. We win all three and could slip into top 4. Sydney have Adelaide in Adelaide.

Geelong would only need to lose 2 of the 3 for us to go past them winning all 3 of our games

If Adelaide beat Essendon and St Kilda beat Melbourne next week, we'll make the 8 even if we drop a game (assuming St Kilda don't catch our percentage or they drop a game)

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Good round for us. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Must beat GWS on Friday. 5 sleeps to go.....

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Destiny is clearly in our hands now. I think 2 out of 3 wins gets us in.
I hope we can reproduce our absolute best next Friday and send a compelling message to the rest of the comp that we are coming.

[bulldogtragic]

Destiny is clearly in our hands now. I think 2 out of 3 wins gets us in.
I hope we can reproduce our absolute best next Friday and send a compelling message to the rest of the comp that we are coming.

Yep. Watch the media go from 'hungover dogs' to 'dangerous dogs' by 10.10pm Friday night if we can do it.

And JMac can get Josh Kelly's signature before or after the game.

[westdog54]

I've got to say, that was one of the most enjoyable roots I've had in a long time.

I was over at my mum and dad's house. The whole family had a massive root together in the lounge.

[boydogs]

Round 21

WB v GWS
Syd v Fre
Geel v Rich
Bris v GC
Ess v Adel
WCE v Carl
Melb v StK
Haw v NM
Port v Coll

Adelaide & St Kilda the big & likely ones

[bulldogtragic]

I've got to say, that was one of the most enjoyable roots I've had in a long time.

I was over at my mum and dad's house. The whole family had a massive root together in the lounge.

The family that roots together, stays together.

[boydogs]

Top 2 is out of reach now. Most we can get is 56 points. Adelaide already have 58. GWS & Richmond have 52 and Geelong has 50. Geelong play both GWS & Richmond, and would need to win both to stop GWS & Richmond getting to 56 but would then be on 58 themselves

If we win our remaining 3 games, the highest we can finish is 3rd, and the lowest we can finish is 6th. We are currently 7th and play Port who we would go past if we beat them

To pass Sydney we need them to lose one of Freo (H), Adel (A), Carl (H) so their R22 game against Adelaide is key
To pass Geelong we need them to lose two of Rich (H), Coll (A), GWS (H), their R21 and R23 games are key
To pass Richmond we need them to lose all of Geel (A), Freo (A), StK (A)
To pass GWS we need them to lose all of WB (A), WCE (H), Geel (A)

Only 3 of those things can happen as Geelong play GWS & Richmond. If 3 happen we finish 3rd, if 2 happen we finish 4th, if 1 happens we finish 5th, if none happen we finish 6th

If we win 2 of our remaining games we get to 52 points. Adelaide, GWS & Richmond already have 52 so the highest we could finish is 4th. As far down as St Kilda can get to 52 points by winning their remaining games, however St Kilda play Melbourne next week so at least one won't get to 52, so the lowest we could finish is 10th

To pass St Kilda we need them to lose one of Melb (A), NM (H), Rich (A) OR win them all but not make up ~63 points on our percentage
To pass Melbourne we need them to lose one of StK (H), BL (H), Coll (A), R21 v StK is key
To pass West Coast we need them to lose one of Carl (H), GWS (A), Adel (H), R22 v GWS is key
To pass Essendon we need them to lose one of Adel (H), GC (A), Freo (H), R21 v Adel is key
To pass Sydney we need them to lose two of Freo (H), Adel (A), Carl (H), would need an upset in R21 or R23
To pass Port Adelaide we need them to lose two of Coll (H), WB (A), GC (H), would need an upset in R21 or R23
To pass Geelong we need them to lose all of Rich (H), Coll (A), GWS (H)

At least 1 of those things must happen with St Kilda playing Melbourne. If all 7 happen we finish 4th, if 6 happen we finish 5th, if 5 happen we finish 6th, if 4 happen we finish 7th, if 3 happen we finish 8th, if 2 happen we finish 9th, if 1 happens we finish 10th

[bulldogtragic]

Alright. Now Quantum Mechanics please. :D

[bulldogtragic]

So odds are two gets us in there, with a few favourable results. So that's our get in and 'why not us again' option. But three wins and some favourable results gets us from 4 to a home final in the bottom 4. I hope the team goes with the win 7 in a row option going into finals and going for 10-11 wins.

[Eastdog]

Cheers boydogs. That was a lot to take in :)

[merantau]

Cheers boydogs. That was a lot to take in :)

Thanks Boydogs. That was an epic analysis. Don't know how you did it mate. Would have given me a serious headache had I had enough brain power to even attempt it!
I reckon I'd be up for working out what's what after round 22 though!
I want to see a HUGE turnout on Friday night and a massive wall of noise. I want the atmosphere to be Prelim final-like.
When they run out make our boos sound like a Wall of Malevolence. Make it a real deja vous experience for them right from the off.
This is the biggest game of the year for us. Let's Go Dogs!

[Eastdog]

Thanks Boydogs. That was an epic analysis. Don't know how you did it mate. Would have given me a serious headache had I had enough brain power to even attempt it!
I reckon I'd be up for working out what's what after round 22 though!
I want to see a HUGE turnout on Friday night and a massive wall of noise. I want the atmosphere to be Prelim final-like.
When they run out make our boos sound like a Wall of Malevolence. Make it a real deja vous experience for them right from the off.
This is the biggest game of the year for us. Let's Go Dogs!

In the Carn the Dogs! Thread I mentioned this as well. A sea of red white and blue on Friday night.

[josie]

Thanks for all the analysis Boydogs - whodathunk this is possible 3 or so weeks ago? What a crazy season. I am so excited. Gotta think 1 week at a time, hope the boys are too. Just saw some live Latin jazz which was sensational and diverted my mind for a few hours. Rest of week though I am going to very often think of Friday night. Go you good things. Beat those plastic orange thingys. Oh, and please wipe the smirk off Toby Greenthugs face and Libba, please make Shaw become frustrated so he does those crazy eyes again and so you can do your loco gesture. One of the funniest things I have ever seen in a game.

[hujsh]

My big takeaway is Adelaide could have a huge say in where we finish on the ladder.

Lets hope they do better than they did Round 23 last year.

[Twodogs]

Top 2 is out of reach now. Most we can get is 56 points. Adelaide already have 58. GWS & Richmond have 52 and Geelong has 50. Geelong play both GWS & Richmond, and would need to win both to stop GWS & Richmond getting to 56 but would then be on 58 themselves

If we win our remaining 3 games, the highest we can finish is 3rd, and the lowest we can finish is 6th. We are currently 7th and play Port who we would go past if we beat them

To pass Sydney we need them to lose one of Freo (H), Adel (A), Carl (H) so their R22 game against Adelaide is key
To pass Geelong we need them to lose two of Rich (H), Coll (A), GWS (H), their R21 and R23 games are key
To pass Richmond we need them to lose all of Geel (A), Freo (A), StK (A)
To pass GWS we need them to lose all of WB (A), WCE (H), Geel (A)

Only 3 of those things can happen as Geelong play GWS & Richmond. If 3 happen we finish 3rd, if 2 happen we finish 4th, if 1 happens we finish 5th, if none happen we finish 6th

If we win 2 of our remaining games we get to 52 points. Adelaide, GWS & Richmond already have 52 so the highest we could finish is 4th. As far down as St Kilda can get to 52 points by winning their remaining games, however St Kilda play Melbourne next week so at least one won't get to 52, so the lowest we could finish is 10th

To pass St Kilda we need them to lose one of Melb (A), NM (H), Rich (A) OR win them all but not make up ~63 points on our percentage
To pass Melbourne we need them to lose one of StK (H), BL (H), Coll (A), R21 v StK is key
To pass West Coast we need them to lose one of Carl (H), GWS (A), Adel (H), R22 v GWS is key
To pass Essendon we need them to lose one of Adel (H), GC (A), Freo (H), R21 v Adel is key
To pass Sydney we need them to lose two of Freo (H), Adel (A), Carl (H), would need an upset in R21 or R23
To pass Port Adelaide we need them to lose two of Coll (H), WB (A), GC (H), would need an upset in R21 or R23
To pass Geelong we need them to lose all of Rich (H), Coll (A), GWS (H)

At least 1 of those things must happen with St Kilda playing Melbourne. If all 7 happen we finish 4th, if 6 happen we finish 5th, if 5 happen we finish 6th, if 4 happen we finish 7th, if 3 happen we finish 8th, if 2 happen we finish 9th, if 1 happens we finish 10th


One of the best posts I've read on WOOF, well researched and written. Thanks.

That's my rooting arranged for the next few weekends. I love to root and not have to think about what the next root coming up is.

[azabob]

As of this morning Champion Data have us finishing 7th and Port Adelaide 6th.

I could live with that.

[azabob]

As of this morning Champion Data have us finishing 7th and Port Adelaide 6th.

I could live with that.

Sorry BT and all, they are saying Swans to finish 6th. Not happy about that.

[bulldogtragic]

As of this morning Champion Data have us finishing 7th and Port Adelaide 6th.

I could live with that.

Yep. But a quick start to silence the crowd would be in order.

Enter: Stringer, Wood, Adams, Dickson, Morris, Dunkley, JJ, Tom Boyd




Edit: Happy to get these guys in against Sydney. We can beat them with these guys.

Looks like 'if' we make finals, and finish 7th, the run on a couple of predictors could be:

Sydney, SCG - if won (WCE at WCE)
Richmond/Geelong, MCG - if won (Hawks at MCG)
Adelaide/GWS at AO or Spotless - if win (GWS at Spotless)
Grand Final (Premiers)

[Topdog]

As of this morning Champion Data have us finishing 7th and Port Adelaide 6th.

I could live with that.

They did have Port winning their last 4 games at one stage. They have us losing to Port in Ballarat which would be very disappointing considering how Port play interstate.

[Ozza]

They did have Port winning their last 4 games at one stage. They have us losing to Port in Ballarat which would be very disappointing considering how Port play interstate.

Hoping Collingwood give them a hard game on Sunday twilight this weekend. The pies aren't a high tackling team - but they do make it a hard-running game when they play well.

[boydogs]

But three wins and some favourable results gets us from 4 to a home final in the bottom 4. I hope the team goes with the win 7 in a row option going into finals and going for 10-11 wins.

Yep, big incentive to win the rest of our games, as we either get top 4 or a home final. Guaranteed to finish higher this year with 14 wins than we did last year with 15 wins. For top 4, we need Adelaide to beat Sydney, and either Richmond & GWS to beat Geelong, or West Coast & Geelong to beat GWS

If Adelaide beat Sydney, Richmond beat Geelong and West Coast beat GWS, we're in regardless of the result of the Geelong v GWS game in round 23, and those two sides are playing for top 4. If either Richmond beat Geelong or West Coast beat GWS but not both, that game will decide whether we make top 4 or not

[Twodogs]

The rooting has gotten very scientific all of a sudden!

[boydogs]

The rooting has gotten very scientific all of a sudden!

Fire up the bunsen burner and melt the plastics! :D

[Twodogs]

Fire up the bunsen burner and melt the plastics! :D

Did tgat at high school while the teacher was out of the classroom. Gee did that go down well.

[hujsh]

The rooting has gotten very scientific all of a sudden!

I like to say clinical and precise

[Twodogs]

I like to say clinical and precise


You always were a romantic at heart.

It's hardened up, that's for sure.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Top 2 is out of reach now. Most we can get is 56 points. Adelaide already have 58. GWS & Richmond have 52 and Geelong has 50. Geelong play both GWS & Richmond, and would need to win both to stop GWS & Richmond getting to 56 but would then be on 58 themselves

If we win our remaining 3 games, the highest we can finish is 3rd, and the lowest we can finish is 6th. We are currently 7th and play Port who we would go past if we beat them

To pass Sydney we need them to lose one of Freo (H), Adel (A), Carl (H) so their R22 game against Adelaide is key
To pass Geelong we need them to lose two of Rich (H), Coll (A), GWS (H), their R21 and R23 games are key
To pass Richmond we need them to lose all of Geel (A), Freo (A), StK (A)
To pass GWS we need them to lose all of WB (A), WCE (H), Geel (A)

Only 3 of those things can happen as Geelong play GWS & Richmond. If 3 happen we finish 3rd, if 2 happen we finish 4th, if 1 happens we finish 5th, if none happen we finish 6th

If we win 2 of our remaining games we get to 52 points. Adelaide, GWS & Richmond already have 52 so the highest we could finish is 4th. As far down as St Kilda can get to 52 points by winning their remaining games, however St Kilda play Melbourne next week so at least one won't get to 52, so the lowest we could finish is 10th

To pass St Kilda we need them to lose one of Melb (A), NM (H), Rich (A) OR win them all but not make up ~63 points on our percentage
To pass Melbourne we need them to lose one of StK (H), BL (H), Coll (A), R21 v StK is key
To pass West Coast we need them to lose one of Carl (H), GWS (A), Adel (H), R22 v GWS is key
To pass Essendon we need them to lose one of Adel (H), GC (A), Freo (H), R21 v Adel is key
To pass Sydney we need them to lose two of Freo (H), Adel (A), Carl (H), would need an upset in R21 or R23
To pass Port Adelaide we need them to lose two of Coll (H), WB (A), GC (H), would need an upset in R21 or R23
To pass Geelong we need them to lose all of Rich (H), Coll (A), GWS (H)

At least 1 of those things must happen with St Kilda playing Melbourne. If all 7 happen we finish 4th, if 6 happen we finish 5th, if 5 happen we finish 6th, if 4 happen we finish 7th, if 3 happen we finish 8th, if 2 happen we finish 9th, if 1 happens we finish 10th

Okay.. i was right with ya up to the bit about '...the most we can get is 56 points...

[boydogs]

Okay.. i was right with ya up to the bit about '...the most we can get is 56 points...

TL;DR - Win 3 and we're 3rd-6th, win 2 and we're 4th-10th, cheer for Geelong, Sydney, West Coast & Essendon to lose

[boydogs]

Adelaide & Carlton have started well, would be huge for our hopes if they can go on with it

Round 21

WB v GWS - Nope
Syd v Fre - Nope
Geel v Rich - Nope
Bris v GC
Ess v Adel
WCE v Carl
Melb v StK
Haw v NM
Port v Coll

[Eastdog]

Could be a good night for us results wise right now.

I think if the Crows and Blues win I think we still remain in the 8 after this round.

[Eastdog]

http://www.liveladders.com/AFL/

[boydogs]

Carlton level at 3/4 time but couldn't go on with it, Adelaide ensuring we finish at least 9th if we win the last two

Need St Kilda to have a narrow win against Melbourne to stay in the 8 at the end of the round. More than that and they will pass us on percentage. Better for us if they beat Melbourne, as not only are we a chance to hold them off on percentage, but they have to beat Richmond in R23

[Sedat]

Carlton level at 3/4 time but couldn't go on with it, Adelaide ensuring we finish at least 9th if we win the last two

Need St Kilda to have a narrow win against Melbourne to stay in the 8 at the end of the round. More than that and they will pass us on percentage. Better for us if they beat Melbourne, as not only are we a chance to hold them off on percentage, but they have to beat Richmond in R23
Reckon we will make top 8 if we win both games. West Coke have 2 tough games (GWS away and Adelaide home), and St Kilda has Richmond in R23. Demons have a tough match against the Pies in R23 which they could easily drop. We have Essendon covered if we win both. Even Port if they lose tomorrow and we knock them off next week.

We'd be incredibly stiff to miss the top 8 with 13-9 - I reckon 12-10 and a good % will be enough to make it.

[Sedat]

If we want a perfect result tomorrow, a draw between Melbourne and the Saints would be absolute gold.

[Twodogs]

If we want a perfect result tomorrow, a draw between Melbourne and the Saints would be absolute gold.

Thought that myself.

[westdog54]

If we want a perfect result tomorrow, a draw between Melbourne and the Saints would be absolute gold.

Failing that, Saints winning by less than 2 goals keeps us in by my count.

[boydogs]

Reckon we will make top 8 if we win both games. West Coke have 2 tough games (GWS away and Adelaide home), and St Kilda has Richmond in R23. Demons have a tough match against the Pies in R23 which they could easily drop. We have Essendon covered if we win both. Even Port if they lose tomorrow and we knock them off next week.

We'd be incredibly stiff to miss the top 8 with 13-9 - I reckon 12-10 and a good % will be enough to make it.

Yep, the Essendon game last night was the key one, whether they could get over Adelaide at home. Adelaide held up their end of the bargain, just need West Coast to lose one of their next two to join Essendon and the loser of St Kilda/Melbourne as the 3 top 11 teams that don't get to 13 wins

[bornadog]

Yep, the Essendon game last night was the key one, whether they could get over Adelaide at home. Adelaide held up their end of the bargain, just need West Coast to lose one of their next two to join Essendon and the loser of St Kilda/Melbourne as the 3 top 11 teams that don't get to 13 wins

West Coast play GWS next week in Sydney followed by Crows at home, so that should be it for them. I can't see the Saints winning today and they still have Tigers.

[Rocco Jones]

Whilst Saints winning small would be great (a draw ideal!), I would take any Saints win. They have the Tigers and Dees have an easy draw.

[comrade]

I think you can make a case for the Saints beating the Tigers in a few weeks. Do not rate Richmond one bit.

[bornadog]

I think you can make a case for the Saints beating the Tigers in a few weeks. Do not rate Richmond one bit.

We could end up playing them in the first final at the MCG - now that would be a good result if it happens.

[Twodogs]

Yep, really need St Kilda to win.

Any year before now trying to finish 7th or 8th and play in the elimination final would have been seen as fighting for the consolation prize of your season going a week or maybe two weeks longer. Now teams see themselves as a real chance to win the flag no matter where they finish inside the eight.

It's made competition for spots that little bit more intense and more interesting I reckon.

[Rocket Science]

Ahahaha Saints shitting the bed versus the Dees.

I love having to rely on other mobs.

[Rocco Jones]

Saints have been absolutely terrible.

Pies beating Port would be absolutely enormous to our chances.

[Twodogs]

Ahahaha Saints shitting the bed versus the Dees.

I love having to rely on other mobs.


I really don't mind seeing st Kilda getting their pants pulled down. If it costs us our spot in the eight then that's our look out for playing like idiots and not winning enough games.

[Remi Moses]

Looks like a close one . Melbourne are back in Melbourne modeand a draw or a stkilda close win is good for us .
Need Collingwood to beat port, but it's irritating that we're relying on other teams .

[Sedat]

Pies beating Port would be absolutely enormous to our chances.
As an added bonus it would get Bucks another couple of years ;)

[Eastdog]

Looks like a close one . Melbourne are back in Melbourne modeand a draw or a stkilda close win is good for us .
Need Collingwood to beat port, but it's irritating that we're relying on other teams .

Yeah it's not ideal relying on other sides but we now kind of have to but if we win our next 2 games we should be in the finals.

[Eastdog]

Port win today

So the hope now is for

1. Us beat the Power in Ballarat
2. The Giants to beat the Eagles
3. And Suns to win over Dons and Lions to win over the Demons in upsets both not likely

If the Giants beat the Eagles will be 8th going into the final round so number 1 and 2 we need to happen.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

The only likely scenario as far as I'm concerned is us winning both games. Pretty confident we get in if we do that. If that doesn't happen it's goodnight 2017. If it's the latter, who do you root for to win the flag? I honestly don't like any of them and think they all would make weak premiers.

[Twodogs]

The only likely scenario as far as I'm concerned is us winning both games. Pretty confident we get in if we do that. If that doesn't happen it's goodnight 2017. If it's the latter, who do you root for to win the flag? I honestly don't like any of them and think they all would make weak premiers.


Footscray.

[boydogs]

Poor round

WB v GWS - Nope
Syd v Fre - Nope
Geel v Rich - Nope
Bris v GC
Ess v Adel - Yes
WCE v Carl - Nope
Melb v StK - Nope
Haw v NM
Port v Coll - Nope

Round 22
Adel v Syd
WB v Port
Coll v Geel
GWS v WCE
GC v Ess
Carl v Haw
Melb v BL
StK v NM
Fre v Rich

Round 23
Haw v WB
Coll v Melb
BL v NM
Syd v Carl
Geel v GWS
Port v GC
Ess v Fre
Rich v StK
WCE v Adel

If we win both games, we need one of Melbourne to lose 1, West Coast to lose 1, Sydney to lose 2 and Port to lose 2 (one of which would be a loss to us) to make the 8. Any one of GWS v WCE, WCE v Adel or Coll v Melb would get us in

If we win one game, we need three of Melbourne to lose 2, West Coast to lose 2, Essendon to lose 1 and St Kilda to either lose 1 or not make up ~39 points of percentage to make the 8. All of GC v Ess, Rich v StK, WCE v GWS and Adel v WCE would get us in

[Eastdog]

Footscray.

Would be great to win back to back VFL flags. A great achievement if we do it being in the competition for a short time. May go to a VFL final if it's hosted at the Whitten Oval and possibly North Port if we make the prelim and will probably go to the VFL GF at Etihad if we make it of course :)

[Sedat]

For finals, the equation is simple. We only need 3 things to happen:
Dogs beat Port
Dogs beat Hawks
GWS beats WC, or Adel beats WC (at Domain and Adel might already have top spot sewn up)

Other preferable results as follows:
Syd beats Adel - makes sure Adel are at full rat power in R23 against WC. Also gives Syd a top 4 chance and Rich to drop to 5th.
St K beats Rich - gives us chance to play Rich in first final at MCG (assuming we finish 8th)
Carl beats Hawks - knocks Hawks out of the race and also puts Carl ahead of Norf for Hrovat compo
Geel beats GWS - ensures a Vic club finishes top 2 so there's hope to draw an MCG PF if we make it that far
BL beats Norf - consign Norf to the spoon and better Hrovat compo pick

I'm discounting major boilovers like Melb losing either of their matches or Ess doing so.

Imagine Dogs sneak into 8th and play Rich in first final. We then play Syd (who loses to Adel in 1 v 4 QF). Cats beat GWS in 2 v 3 QF at the Cattery. We then cop Syd at the SCG and conjure up a miracle, which takes us to Geel at the MCG for a PF.

I like to dream :D

[Ozza]

For finals, the equation is simple. We only need 3 things to happen:
Dogs beat Port
Dogs beat Hawks
GWS beats WC, or Adel beats WC (at Domain and Adel might already have top spot sewn up)

Other preferable results as follows:
Syd beats Adel - makes sure Adel are at full rat power in R23 against WC. Also gives Syd a top 4 chance and Rich to drop to 5th.
St K beats Rich - gives us chance to play Rich in first final at MCG (assuming we finish 8th)
Carl beats Hawks - knocks Hawks out of the race and also puts Carl ahead of Norf for Hrovat compo
Geel beats GWS - ensures a Vic club finishes top 2 so there's hope to draw an MCG PF if we make it that far
BL beats Norf - consign Norf to the spoon and better Hrovat compo pick

I'm discounting major boilovers like Melb losing either of their matches or Ess doing so.

Imagine Dogs sneak into 8th and play Rich in first final. We then play Syd (who loses to Adel in 1 v 4 QF). Cats beat GWS in 2 v 3 QF at the Cattery. We then cop Syd at the SCG and conjure up a miracle, which takes us to Geel at the MCG for a PF.

I like to dream :D

A solid two weekends of rooting ahead, assuming we beat Port.

If we don't beat Port....then we are rooted.

[bornadog]

A solid two weekends of rooting ahead, assuming we beat Port.

If we don't beat Port....then we are rooted.

We can't rely on other teams losing, we must win the last two.

[Mantis]

We can't rely on other teams losing, we must win the last two.

We have to rely on WC losing otherwise the results of our games are insignificant, unless we can make up about 8%.

[Twodogs]

For finals, the equation is simple. We only need 3 things to happen:
Dogs beat Port
Dogs beat Hawks
GWS beats WC, or Adel beats WC (at Domain and Adel might already have top spot sewn up)

Other preferable results as follows:
Syd beats Adel - makes sure Adel are at full rat power in R23 against WC. Also gives Syd a top 4 chance and Rich to drop to 5th.
St K beats Rich - gives us chance to play Rich in first final at MCG (assuming we finish 8th)
Carl beats Hawks - knocks Hawks out of the race and also puts Carl ahead of Norf for Hrovat compo
Geel beats GWS - ensures a Vic club finishes top 2 so there's hope to draw an MCG PF if we make it that far
BL beats Norf - consign Norf to the spoon and better Hrovat compo pick

I'm discounting major boilovers like Melb losing either of their matches or Ess doing so.

Imagine Dogs sneak into 8th and play Rich in first final. We then play Syd (who loses to Adel in 1 v 4 QF). Cats beat GWS in 2 v 3 QF at the Cattery. We then cop Syd at the SCG and conjure up a miracle, which takes us to Geel at the MCG for a PF.

I like to dream :D


A solid two weekends of rooting ahead, assuming we beat Port.

If we don't beat Port....then we are rooted.

I'm going to be rooting my brains out this weekend. It might be our last root for the year so we have to root like there's no tomorrow.


We owe it to the boys and to ourselves.

[Throughandthrough]

I'm still not sure if Sydney beating Adelaide was good or bad last night, I was barracking for the Crows until I read the post above. And sorry I haven't added any value to this thread next year, some big bad things currently going down in my world at the moment but hopefully will be sorted soon((ish). All good, go the dogs

[The Underdog]

I'm still not sure if Sydney beating Adelaide was good or bad last night, I was barracking for the Crows until I read the post above. And sorry I haven't added any value to this thread next year, some big bad things currently going down in my world at the moment but hopefully will be sorted soon((ish). All good, go the dogs

It's an excellent result for us. Means GWS and Adelaide will both have huge motivation to beat West Coast. Which is our only hope of getting in.
Good luck with the non-WOOF real world fuss.

[Twodogs]

I'm still not sure if Sydney beating Adelaide was good or bad last night, I was barracking for the Crows until I read the post above. And sorry I haven't added any value to this thread next year, some big bad things currently going down in my world at the moment but hopefully will be sorted soon((ish). All good, go the dogs


Chin up mate. Go dogs.

[Bulldog4life]

I'm still not sure if Sydney beating Adelaide was good or bad last night, I was barracking for the Crows until I read the post above. And sorry I haven't added any value to this thread next year, some big bad things currently going down in my world at the moment but hopefully will be sorted soon((ish). All good, go the dogs

Love this thread T & T. Hope everything works out for you mate.

[bornadog]

I'm still not sure if Sydney beating Adelaide was good or bad last night, I was barracking for the Crows until I read the post above. And sorry I haven't added any value to this thread next year, some big bad things currently going down in my world at the moment but hopefully will be sorted soon((ish). All good, go the dogs

Good Luck T&T, hopefully a good outcome for you.

[Remi Moses]

I guess we can stop rooting

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I guess we can stop rooting

Can't we still just root for the fun of it?

[azabob]

I'm still rooting for Gold Coast to win tonight
GWS to win this Arvo

Dogs to win next Friday night
Crows to beat West Coke next weekend
Dockers to beat Essendon next weekend

[Remi Moses]

Can't we still just root for the fun of it?

There's fun in rooting .. Booooomtish!

[Sedat]

I'm still rooting for Gold Coast to win tonight
GWS to win this Arvo

Dogs to win next Friday night
Crows to beat West Coke next weekend
Dockers to beat Essendon next weekend
More chance of a unicorn sighting in Barkly St but I appreciate your positivity :)

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I'm still rooting for Gold Coast to win tonight
GWS to win this Arvo

Dogs to win next Friday night
Crows to beat West Coke next weekend
Dockers to beat Essendon next weekend

That is some speculative rooting right there! Good to dream!

[Eastdog]

If the Suns and Giants can win today that is good for us. If North and the Lions can win tomorrow that would help us more but I don't think they will but if the Suns can do it tonight we are still a chance as Bevo said in the presser.

[KT31]

Can't we still just root for the fun of it?

Only us and dolphins.:D

[Twodogs]

Can't we still just root for the fun of it?

Only the Protestants.


I drove all the way to Ballarat today and rooted like a madman but it did no good.

[bulldogtragic]

Only the Protestants.


I drove all the way to Ballarat today and rooted like a madman but it did no good.

Wearing protection? Or like, 'aroused'? It happens to us all mate, you're among supporters.

[bulldogtragic]

Easy now.

Win on Friday Night vs Hawthorn and we are temporarily 8th. Then all three results must go our way on Sunday knocking out Essendon (Freo), WCE (Crows) & Saints (Richmond). Assuming St Kilda beat North by more than 24 points.

Unlikely.

[Sedat]

Easy now.

Win on Friday Night vs Hawthorn and we are temporarily 8th. Then all three results must go our way on Sunday knocking out Essendon (Freo), WCE (Crows) & Saints (Richmond). Assuming St Kilda beat North by more than 24 points.

Unlikely.
Carlton have just knocked the stuffing out of Hawthorn for next week. Could have been the perfect day for us had we held up our end of the bargain.

Friday night R23 is now a fizzer.

[Twodogs]

Wearing protection? Or like, 'aroused'? It happens to us all mate, you're among supporters.

More along the "Catholics must have a biological imperative" line.

I didn't need any protecting. I was among friends many of whom were very busy rooting themselves.

[boydogs]

For those praying for a miracle

To make the top 8, we must beat Hawthorn, and 3 of these 4 things must happen:

1. Essendon must lose to Fremantle at Etihad
2. Melbourne must lose to both Brisbane and Collingwood at the MCG
3. West Coast must lose to Adelaide in Perth
4. St Kilda must lose to one of North at Etihad and Richmond at the MCG, or not make up ~22 points of percentage on us

[aker39]

For those praying for a miracle

To make the top 8, we must beat Hawthorn, and 3 of these 4 things must happen:

1. Essendon must lose to Melbourne at Etihad


Essendon play Fremantle

[boydogs]

Essendon play Fremantle

Sorry, had in my head that they're playing in Melbourne. 50/50 game over there, 80/20 here

Realistically we're done for, but nothing today could rule us in or out, so not sure how we approach selection next week

A big day of upsets would help though. If Brisbane beat Melbourne and North beat St Kilda, we would only need 2 of West Coast, Melbourne and Essendon to lose next week. If Melbourne & St Kilda win, we would need all of West Coast, Essendon & St Kilda to lose

[Twodogs]

Sorry, had in my head that they're playing in Melbourne. 50/50 game over there, 80/20 here

Realistically we're done for, but nothing today could rule us in or out, so not sure how we approach selection next week

A big day of upsets would help though. If Brisbane beat Melbourne and North beat St Kilda, we would only need 2 of West Coast, Melbourne and Essendon to lose next week. If Melbourne & St Kilda win, we would need all of West Coast, Essendon & St Kilda to lose


And us to win. That's the one I'm not entirely confident about.

[comrade]

I'm on the 'anyone but GWS' bandwagon from here on in.

[Flamethrower]

I'm on the "AFL season finishes next Friday night" bandwagon. September is for MLB pennant races and the opening of the NFL and NCAA football seasons.

[josie]

I'm on the 'anyone but GWS' bandwagon from here on in.

Amen brother. Order of not wanting them to be '17 premiers:
Plastics
Crows
Geelong
Dons
Sydney
Port
Eagles
Melbourne
Saints
Tigers

[Eastdog]

There is still hope.

Win Friday night and next Sunday becomes the important day for us with results hopefully going our way.

Lose Friday night and it's 2017 over. 2018 here we come!

[Hotdog60]

That's a hard list to get enthused about. If I can muster any interest in watching any of them it would be may be the Saints. That's only because they have had it as hard as us.
But I would like to hear GWS out in straight sets.

[Eastdog]

That's a hard list to get enthused about. If I can muster any interest in watching any of them it would be may be the Saints. That's only because they have had it as hard as us.
But I would like to hear GWS out in straight sets.

GWS out in straight sets would be nice.

[hujsh]

Amen brother. Order of not wanting them to be '17 premiers:
Plastics
Crows
Geelong
Dons
Sydney
Port
Eagles
Melbourne
Saints
Tigers

Surely the Druggies are second?

Why do we hate Geelong again? Aside from us losing against them.

[Sedat]

Why do we hate Geelong again? Aside from us losing against them.
Chris Scott, Harry Taylor and Joel Selwood. Although they would be infinitely more preferable than GWS.

[Sedat]

Aside from the Dogs rooting, I'd love to see this next week:

Geel beat GWS by a couple of goals or more - more likely than not at the Cattery
Rich beat StK by any margin - more likely than not
Swans to make up tiny % difference on Port and finish 5th - possible, both have easy games next week

If these things happen GWS will finish 4th and have to travel to Adel first up. If they lose they will likely cop the Swans in Sydney in week 2 - straight sets would be a nice outcome for those pricks.

[bulldogtragic]

Aside from the Dogs rooting, I'd love to see this next week:

Geel beat GWS by a couple of goals or more - more likely than not at the Cattery
Rich beat StK by any margin - more likely than not
Swans to make up tiny % difference on Port and finish 5th - possible, both have easy games next week

If these things happen GWS will finish 4th and have to travel to Adel first up. If they lose they will likely cop the Swans in Sydney in week 2 - straight sets would be a nice outcome for those pricks.

That's not nice.




That's brilliant!

[Eastdog]

If results don't go our way next week anything that makes it harder for GWS is good.

[bulldogtragic]

I wonder what the quadie odds are for:

Dogs, Freo, Adelaide, Richmond

I wouldn't take them. But if Dogs can sneak over Hawthorn, Adelaide & Richmond should win too then it's just Essendon vs Freo as the main game. Freo looked shit today, but maybe that gets used by Ross Lyon to fire them up next week.

[josie]

Ghosts of '97 and their self-entitled fans make me not a fan of crows although I do like some of their players. Liked Geelong in their hay day, especially Bartel. Just think they've had enough success. Essendon - got a friend that is don's member and kind of feel sorry for some of their fans and like Joey Daniher a lot - reminds me of an unruly but loveable puppy.

[KT31]

I think my rooting is done for the year.
Just before I woke up this morning I dreamt I looked over at the bedside table to see $100 bill and a note that said, "we will always have 2016,
Love WB."

[Twodogs]

I'm on the "AFL season finishes next Friday night" bandwagon. September is for MLB pennant races and the opening of the NFL and NCAA football seasons.

Love baseball. Always have but I don't have a team, I like to root around a bit when it comes to baseball. Usually I pick a different team each year so I had better get into it. Monday morning NFL is pretty good too. I made an effort to understand NFL because my son was pretty keen for a while and now I'm hooked.


Surely the Druggies are second?

Why do we hate Geelong again? Aside from us losing against them.

Kardinia Park was an awful place packed full of farm boys and regional dickheads. I've been called Western Suburban scum by redheaded, bucktoothed, inbreds and abused more often there than any other ground. They used to get very lippy when they outnumbered us 10 to 1.

Then there was "Billy you are the king of Geelong" or whatever he said when Brownless sunk us that night and the other 12 finals to One record or whatever it is that they have over us and the fact that Chris Scott still hasn't lost a game to Bevo.


They are an awful club.


Ghosts of '97 and their self-entitled fans make me not a fan of crows although I do like some of their players. Liked Geelong in their hay day, especially Bartel. Just think they've had enough success. Essendon - got a friend that is don's member and kind of feel sorry for some of their fans and like Joey Daniher a lot - reminds me of an unruly but loveable puppy.

'97 is gone for me after the premiership. I'm fine with it. And I had a really great time in Adelaide last time we played them apart from the actual bit when the game was being played.


Although. I would like to knock them over in a final just to scratch that itch...

[The Adelaide Connection]

Ross Lyon has always put strategic positioning above winning when going into finals and I have a gut feel the same is true at this moment with draft picks.

We desperately need Collingwood to knock off Melbourne on Saturday, which would mean a Fremantle win will not impact their ladder position and we may just see them turn up and have a red hot crack. Only a few short weeks ago this team should have knocked off GWS in Sydney.

It's not over yet. Stranger things have happened.

[LostDoggy]

I wonder what the quadie odds are for:

Dogs, Freo, Adelaide, Richmond

I wouldn't take them. But if Dogs can sneak over Hawthorn, Adelaide & Richmond should win too then it's just Essendon vs Freo as the main game. Freo looked shit today, but maybe that gets used by Ross Lyon to fire them up next week.

I think if they weren't fired up last week after losing by 104 points the week before, then they sure as hell won't be fired up after losing by 104 points for a consecutive week.

[bornadog]

I think if they weren't fired up last week after losing by 104 points the week before, then they sure as hell won't be fired up after losing by 104 points for a consecutive week.

and they were playing at home, where you think they could have performed better.

It will take a miracle for Essendon to lose this week, or we could win by 100 points and Collingwood win by 100 points :D

[Sedat]

Ross Lyon has always put strategic positioning above winning when going into finals and I have a gut feel the same is true at this moment with draft picks.

We desperately need Collingwood to knock off Melbourne on Saturday, which would mean a Fremantle win will not impact their ladder position and we may just see them turn up and have a red hot crack. Only a few short weeks ago this team should have knocked off GWS in Sydney.

It's not over yet. Stranger things have happened.
Freo are getting absolutely smashed in the media. They might come hard next week just to get some of the heat off the club.

Probably wishful thinking.

[Bulldog4life]

We only have a small chance but nevertheless still a chance. Reminds me of various years during the 70's and 80's when we relied on other teams to lose to make finals.

[bornadog]

The final massive root for H&A.

to make the finals -

Bulldogs win

Essendon, West Coast and St Kilda must all lose

[Rocket Science]

The final massive root for H&A.

to make the finals -

Bulldogs win

Essendon, West Coast and St Kilda must all lose

Oh gawd. The biggest IF in all that is us getting up.

[bornadog]

Oh gawd. The biggest IF in all that is us getting up.

or our luck, the biggest surprise West Coast beats Adelaide and freo also win.

[Sedat]

Oh gawd. The biggest IF in all that is us getting up.
We haven't lost 3 in a row ever under Bevo - reckon we'll win tomorrow night.

Having said that I was supremely confident of winning against Port last week.

[Eastdog]

The final massive root for H&A.

to make the finals -

Bulldogs win

Essendon, West Coast and St Kilda must all lose

Yep lets hope it all works out but very difficult with our poor % but could there be another twist in such a close season where a lot of games have been hard to predict.

[Twodogs]

The final massive root for H&A.

to make the finals -

Bulldogs win

Essendon, West Coast and St Kilda must all lose

One final desperate root.

[bornadog]

One final desperate root.

Will this root help. :D

http://images.mid-day.com/images/2014/sep/31Joe-Root-1.jpg

[Twodogs]

Joe is the last mental image I need.

[aker39]

Walker & Talia out for Crows

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Walker & Talia out for Crows

Interesting....they seem to be content with the possibility of 2nd. Still can't see west coast winning by a big amount. Which is what they would need to make the 8 assuming essendon also wins

[Twodogs]

Interesting....they seem to be content with the possibility of 2nd. Still can't see west coast winning by a big amount. Which is what they would need to make the 8 assuming essendon also wins

I'd prefer Wst Coast to Essendon in the finals even though I tipped Essendon for the flag. I'm more than happy to get that one wrong.

[Eastdog]

Rooting all over now. The best we can hope for is if Fremantle, Adelaide and Richmond win by well over 250 points :)

[comrade]

All aboard the 'Anyone But GWS' train.

[Twodogs]

It's the morning after the night before. How do I get my arm out?

[bulldogtragic]

We currently have draft pick 8.

If St Kilda win or lose by under 36 points, we keep it. If Richmond smash them, we go down to draft pick 9.

[KT31]

It's the morning after the night before. How do I get my arm out?

Less painful to chew it off, TD.

[Bulldog4life]

We currently have draft pick 8.

If St Kilda win or lose by under 36 points, we keep it. If Richmond smash them, we go down to draft pick 9.

Richmond 31 pts up early in 2nd quarter

[bulldogtragic]

Richmond 31 pts up early in 2nd quarter

Bloody St Kilda. Now they'll have back to back picks before us. Pricks.

[bornadog]

Bloody St Kilda. Now they'll have back to back picks before us. Pricks.

Pretty insipid effort at the moment

[boydogs]

Well Essendon got up, so beating Hawthorn wouldn't have got us into the 8
We would have had to beat both Port and Hawthorn, which would have got us 7th and away against Sydney
If we beat GWS as well, we would have finished 6th and played Port at home

[bulldogtragic]

Lose pick 8 by a mere 4 points to St Kilda.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

God I hate st kilda

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Am i too cynical to think Saint's were completely aware of the situation?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

They certainly seemed to stop when it was 1 goal in it

[boydogs]

After being concerned about our low percentage all year, it looks like the only other team on the same number of wins will be St Kilda whose percentage is even lower, and we wish it was the other way around!

[bornadog]

One pick difference is nothing. Confident we will pickup a very good player.

[bulldogtragic]

Hopefully we trade it and it's a non-issue.

[Bulldog4life]

One pick difference is nothing. Confident we will pickup a very good player.

Agree. The Saints picked Billings and left the Bont to us. Makes little difference having either 8 or 9 pick. Depends how astute the recruiter is.

[azabob]

Hopefully we trade it and it's a non-issue.

BT we need to hit the draft with pick 9. I get extremely nervous, extremely nervous, when we look to trade high end picks.

[bulldogtragic]

BT we need to hit the draft with pick 9. I get extremely nervous, extremely nervous, when we look to trade high end picks.

I should've added, for the right player. If there's a gun on the market that addresses our needs, we should be exploring it. If we can't get a top level player, then for sure, take a punt at the draft with Dal.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Bloody St Kilda. Now they'll have back to back picks before us. Pricks.

Back to Back? Do they have a compensation pick for something?

[Bulldog4life]

Back to Back? Do they have a compensation pick for something?

They have the Hawks first pick this year

[Twodogs]

Hopefully we trade it and it's a non-issue.


Then we will lose value. For some reason one spot makes the world of difference in a trade (pick 8 is worth far more than pick 9) but it seldom makes that much difference when you're drafting. Sure there are situations like Ben Long being taken the pick before we were going to take him but Ben Long ain't worth tanking games for.

[bulldogtragic]

Back to Back? Do they have a compensation pick for something?


They have the Hawks first pick this year

B4L is bang on. Great position for them having back to back. We all know Dal has said how much he loves back to back picks.

[Axe Man]

Do we have any rooting left in us or do we no longer care?

Personally I will be rooting for anybody who plays GWS. Other than that I'm not too fussed.

[bornadog]

Do we have any rooting left in us or do we no longer care?

Personally I will be rooting for anybody who plays GWS. Other than that I'm not too fussed.

If you look at the top 8, reluctantly, I only want Tigers to go all the way. The others have all had their go and I hate GWS & Essendon with a passion.

[Eastdog]

Do we have any rooting left in us or do we no longer care?

Personally I will be rooting for anybody who plays GWS. Other than that I'm not too fussed.

GWS out in straight sets would be nice.

[Twodogs]

Actually now that we can't win can we just give GWS the *!*!*!*!ing premiership so we can all stop worrying about what the next thing the AFL are going to do to try and destroy the game in order to give GWS another leg up?

Don't even play the finals series. Call a stop to the season and present the cup to GWS now. That's how much of a farce it will be if ever they win a flag anyway so we might as well get it out the way.

[Eastdog]

Actually now that we can't win can we just give GWS the *!*!*!*!ing premiership so we can all stop worrying about what the next thing the AFL are going to do to try and destroy the game in order to give GWS another leg up?

Don't even play the finals series. Call a stop to the season and present the cup to GWS now. That's how much of a farce it will be if ever they win a flag anyway so we might as well get it out the way.

They could go all the way but the AFL would try and do everything for them to win before the decade is out. I think the Crows will beat them in the qualifying final as it is in Adelaide at Spotless they would be slight favourites.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Lets see:

-Adelaide - i hate them. They sook way too much so no
-Geelong - sick of them so no
- Richmond - Should be the team to root for. But their fans are just so irritating. So arrogant from nothing. It'd be hilarious to see them out in straight sets
-GWS - no friggin way
-Port - don't care about them
-Sydney - don't seem to mind them but after Longmire sooked it up i can't stand them anymore
-Essendon - cheats
-West Coast - don't care but they've had their day

So for me it's Port. And it should be Richmond but their fans drive me nuts. So the fact that it's Port means i couldn't care less.

[Rocket Science]

By my reckoning Sydney have the fewest punchable heads of those participating, and it's hard not to admire their resolve this year.

The rest of them can GAGF, especially you GWS. Them failing, whoever the eventual premier, will be reward enough on its own.

[comrade]

Wouldn't mind Sydney or Port winning. Port have no chance so Sydney it is.

My preference goes like this:

1. Sydney
2. Port
3. WC
4. Richmond
5. Adelaide
6. Geelong
7. Bombers










8. GWS

[Rocco Jones]

Swans and Port for me.

[Sedat]

Wouldn't mind Sydney or Port winning. Port have no chance so Sydney it is.

My preference goes like this:

1. Sydney
2. Port
3. WC
4. Richmond
5. Adelaide
6. Geelong
7. Bombers










8. GWS
Yep, but Essendon right alongside GWS at the foot of your table. Hird giving the Norm Smith to Watson or Goddard is as unpalatable a scenario as could be envisaged.

Port are the sleepers for me. They have genuine match winners who have performed on the big stage previously. They'll take care of West Coke and would fancy their chances against a supremely overrared GWS in week 2. They then cop Richmond or Geelong in a PF, neither of whom would worry them.

[comrade]

Yep, but Essendon right alongside GWS at the foot of your table. Hird giving the Norm Smith to Watson or Goddard is as unpalatable a scenario as could be envisaged.

Port are the sleepers for me. They have genuine match winners who have performed on the big stage previously. They'll take care of West Coke and would fancy their chances against a supremely overrared GWS in week 2. They then cop Richmond or Geelong in a PF, neither of whom would worry them.

I'd be sick if Essendon won but I hate GWS that much. Thankfully, the Bombers will likely get a thumping in week one and that will be the highest peak they reach.

Port are definite smokies but they're just as likely to turn their toes up. Hard to get a read on them.

[Happy Days]

As even as this season has been, it has undoubtedly resulted in a number of small time teams making the finals. Think there's going to be some severely disappointing performances.

[bornadog]

I'd be sick if Essendon won but I hate GWS that much. Thankfully, the Bombers will likely get a thumping in week one and that will be the highest peak they reach.

Port are definite smokies but they're just as likely to turn their toes up. Hard to get a read on them.

Essendon almost won last time they played at the SCG. A last minute goal from Sydney won them the game.

[Webby]

Essendon almost won last time they played at the SCG. A last minute goal from Sydney won them the game.

That's true, but if you recall, Essendon were coming off the bye and the Swans a six day break from a tough game interstate against a flag contender.

They'll pump Essendon this time. (It's all I have left..!!)

[Pickenitup]

Sydney will destroy Essendon by over 10 goals

[Eastdog]

That's true, but if you recall, Essendon were coming off the bye and the Swans a six day break from a tough game interstate against a flag contender.

They'll pump Essendon this time. (It's all I have left..!!)

Based on their current form I'm inclined to agree.

[Twodogs]

I called Essendon as Premiers about a month ago so I will reluctantly stick to self interest.

When Essendon get beaten I will go across to the Swans or Port and if they are no longer in it then it's Spring Carnival and cricket season. A test match being played makes the transition easier, although Australia are doing their best to get it over with quickly.

[boydogs]

Don't get the hate for Richmond. So many false dawns for their supporters, they deserve this one

They only need to win 3 games on their home ground and they are premiers

[Sedat]

Don't get the hate for Richmond. So many false dawns for their supporters, they deserve this one

They only need to win 3 games on their home ground and they are premiers
I could live with them winning the flag

[Twodogs]

Don't get the hate for Richmond. So many false dawns for their supporters, they deserve this one

They only need to win 3 games on their home ground and they are premiers

I lived through the late 60s and that wasn't so bad for the footy romantic, it was a great team full of stars and with a likeable coach in Tom Hafey. Only the meanest of people could begrudge them that success. By 73-74 however there boof head supporters were everywhere and an arrogant, crowing Richmond supporter combines the sportsmanship of your average Essendon supporter along with the goodwill of your average Collungwoid supporter. They are an ugly, ugly supporter base that react worse to success than any Victorian club.


And Matthew Knights and his mate honest Wayne Campbell.

[Twodogs]

Thinking a bit more about it I was at Richmonds last two grand final appearances. 1980 and 1982. Nearly broke my hand trying to get my binoculars out of there case when Helen D'amico streaked onto the ground just after halftime in 1982!

[merantau]

I saw Richmond win in '67 in what was one of the great grand finals. So it's Tigers for me. Then Port. Ken Hinckley seems like a good bloke. Swans next. Their supporters were pretty gracious in defeat.
Throw a blanket over the rest. I detest them equally.

[Twodogs]

I saw Richmond win in '67 in what was one of the great grand finals. So it's Tigers for me. Then Port. Ken Hinckley seems like a good bloke. Swans next. Their supporters were pretty gracious in defeat.
Throw a blanket over the rest. I detest them equally.


That moment when Royce Hart plants his boot in Denis Marshalls(?) face during the 1967 grand final while he was running backwards flying for a mark is one of the great moments on footy history. What a mark! And it's less than a goal the difference late in the last quarter when he dies it.

Royce Hart is the best player I've seen.

[merantau]

That moment when Royce Hart plants his boot in Denis Marshalls(?) face during the 1967 grand final while he was running backwards flying for a mark is one of the great moments on footy history. What a mark! And it's less than a goal the difference late in the last quarter when he dies it.

Royce Hart is the best player I've seen.

Roy West?

[Twodogs]

Roy West?

Yes. I think he died just recently.

[boydogs]

Swans next. Their supporters were pretty gracious in defeat

I just choked on my drink! The amount of whinging about the umpiring they managed was unprecedented

[Twodogs]

I just choked on my drink! The amount of whinging about the umpiring they managed was unprecedented


The bile was flying left right and centre.

People made videos about it. Check 'free kick, Bulldogs' on YouTube.

[merantau]

I just choked on my drink! The amount of whinging about the umpiring they managed was unprecedented
I was referring to those around me during the game. Don't know too much about their reaction after the dust settled as I went back to Indonesia. Seems it was pretty sooky. Can't bring myself to dislike them that much ad a close mate, when I was kid, barracked for them and we always used to travel to the Lake Oval to watch the Dogs and South - games we would usually win. They were always down like us so I had a soft spot for them.
I terms of rooting I could never put GWS, Adelaide, Geelong the Cokers or Essendon ahead of them.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

The bile was flying left right and centre.

People made videos about it. Check 'free kick, Bulldogs' on YouTube.

That video is just further evidence of swans fans missing the point

[Twodogs]

That video is just further evidence of swans fans missing the point


Yep.

[Bulldog4life]

I think we need a 2019 T and T Who to Root for Thread. Are you there T and T?

[Twodogs]

I think we need a 2019 T and T Who to Root for Thread. Are you there T and T?

You've done well. I looked for this thread last night and couldn't find it. Great work.


Where are you T&T?

[1eyedog]

Good grief that sig wastes some bandwidth :D

[bulldogtragic]

I think we need a 2019 T and T Who to Root for Thread. Are you there T and T?

I think Bevo said something like we need all 6 wins owing to our poor percentage. I think we can at least four. Man those losses at home to GCS and Carlton sting even more.