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bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 11:01 AM
2,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

LostDoggy
19-10-2017, 11:04 AM
2,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!! :d

like watching the o/d in the car ticking over to 100,000!

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 11:05 AM
like watching the o/d in the car ticking over to 100,000!

Love it. That's photo worthy.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 11:06 AM
Dont cave Dogs!!

Mofra
19-10-2017, 11:15 AM
Bulldogs, Essendon and Connors management all in the room according to The Age.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 11:16 AM
Bulldogs, Essendon and Connors management all in the room according to The Age.

They walked out very quickly.

ledge
19-10-2017, 11:18 AM
They walked out very quickly.

Really .. And the thought is ?

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 11:18 AM
Bulldogs, Essendon and Connors management all in the room according to The Age.

And Dalrymple apparently bobbing up just now too.

Stare the bastards down Dogs.

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 11:19 AM
Dear Essendon, 2 hours, 42 minutes to go.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 11:22 AM
Some reports that the deal has been done.

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 11:24 AM
Some reports that the deal has been done.

Feeling sick again. It better be a good deal.

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 11:25 AM
Feeling sick again. It better be a good deal.

They've got a live camera on the room where deals get signed. So until they're in that room, I don't believe that a deal has been done.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 11:27 AM
They've got a live camera on the room where deals get signed. So until they're in that room, I don't believe that a deal has been done.

I see you are a massive loser and watching it like I am :)

BornInDroopSt'54
19-10-2017, 11:27 AM
Jake is a gun of a player. His trade value is less than his worth as he matures.

ledge
19-10-2017, 11:28 AM
I see you are a massive loser and watching it like I am :)

Where is it on ?

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 11:28 AM
I see you are a massive loser and watching it like I am :)

It's 2.30am in Berlin. I think I win the loser competition.

Grantysghost
19-10-2017, 11:30 AM
I too am devoid of meaningful life - here's the link.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-19/watch-it-live-from-11am-aedt-trade-dday

Topdog
19-10-2017, 11:30 AM
Where is it on ?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-19/watch-it-live-from-11am-aedt-trade-dday

Topdog
19-10-2017, 11:32 AM
West Coast have lost 1st and 3rd round picks for 2018 blowing out of the water the Essendon media rhetoric that Essendon can't trade their round 1 pick for 2018 because they already traded a 2018 pick

Murphy'sLore
19-10-2017, 11:36 AM
I'm in the doctor's waiting room - what is going on????!!

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 11:43 AM
I'm in the doctor's waiting room - what is going on????!!

A whole lot of nothing.

Murphy'sLore
19-10-2017, 11:47 AM
This is not doing my anxiety issues any good at all.

Dry Rot
19-10-2017, 11:50 AM
I'm in the doctor's waiting room - what is going on????!!

Your diagnosis is Priapism.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Permanent+erection

Dry Rot
19-10-2017, 11:51 AM
Shame that Carlton won't want Stringer, for obvious reasons

Murphy'sLore
19-10-2017, 11:56 AM
Your diagnosis is Priapism.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Permanent+erection

Ah, whatever my diagnosis is, it's definitely not that! :)

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:01 PM
2 hours! Must getting nervy for Essendon. At this point, they don't have a first round pick or Stringer.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:06 PM
2 hours! Must getting nervy for Essendon. At this point, they don't have a first round pick or Stringer.

Would love to be a fly on the wall.

Has certainly gone down to the wire.

kruder
19-10-2017, 12:07 PM
Charlie Cameron worth pick 12 Jake Stringer worth 25 and 30 interesting times

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:12 PM
Charlie Cameron worth pick 12 Jake Stringer worth 25 and 30 interesting times

If we were dealing with Brisbane instead of Essendon, Stringer for 12 would have been done already.

BornInDroopSt'54
19-10-2017, 12:13 PM
Your diagnosis is Priapism.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Permanent+erection

Wrong gender.

Dry Rot
19-10-2017, 12:16 PM
wrong gender.

oops!

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Dogs (Turtle) and Bombers in the room ...

Jeez Louise.

Grantysghost
19-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Its going down.

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:16 PM
Dogs deal with Essendon going down right now.

No J-Mac in room. Chris Grant and Dodoro signing it off.

All guys have now walked out of the room.

kruder
19-10-2017, 12:17 PM
Its happening now boys

Webby
19-10-2017, 12:17 PM
We've caved. Fcking hopeless!!
I feel sick!

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:19 PM
What's the deal?

DOG GOD
19-10-2017, 12:20 PM
This is putrid...officially have no balls.

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 12:20 PM
Nothing has been signed. Hoping they went to check with Ken Wood that a future pick is allowed to be traded...

Mantis
19-10-2017, 12:21 PM
25 & 30.

Ouch!!!

ledge
19-10-2017, 12:21 PM
We've caved. Fcking hopeless!!
I feel sick!

That's a joke we caved , how can anyone say anyone lost or won a trade until a few years later when the players have played a few years then you can judge . For all we know stringer might go further down hill and not be anything and we pick a champ from the picks we got.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:21 PM
No details as yet so perhaps pop away those lynching ropes just for the minute.

Hoping Dodo decided to get serious today rather than us grabbing for straws.

Grantysghost
19-10-2017, 12:21 PM
They walked in with a phone with the details on it, Ken wood (AFL) looked over the details then they all walked out. Body language would suggest (Dodo was smiling and hugging staff even) that it's done. Assume it's a little more detailed than just 25 and 30 but no details have emerged yet.

angelopetraglia
19-10-2017, 12:22 PM
Confirmed for 25 & 30. Weak as. I feel sick.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:22 PM
So much for holding strong. We are laughable

DOG GOD
19-10-2017, 12:22 PM
25 & 30.

Ouch!!!

What a farce.....lost all respect for jmac etc.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:23 PM
What a joke

kruder
19-10-2017, 12:23 PM
Deal hasn't been confirmed yet

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:23 PM
Who's confirming those details as official? Trade Radio certainly aren't, yet.

jeemak
19-10-2017, 12:23 PM
Must have really wanted the dickhead gone.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:24 PM
We've just shown to the football world that we can be bullied in any deals.

Rocco Jones
19-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Is 25 and 30 confirmed?

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 12:24 PM
Who's confirming those details as official? Trade Radio certainly aren't, yet.

Sam McClure is the only one who's run with it on Twitter.

Nothing official from AFL.

choconmientay
19-10-2017, 12:25 PM
It's on AFL trade news:

Breaking: Stringer off to Dons
The deal his being finalised and will be announced shortly. Picks 25 and 30 to the Dogs, Stringer to the Bombers.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:25 PM
What a gutless, pathetic effort from our club.

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:25 PM
Why not take 11 then FFS.

LostDoggy
19-10-2017, 12:25 PM
Club better have a bloody good explanation. Atm looking spineless...

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:25 PM
Who's confirming those details as official? Trade Radio certainly aren't, yet.

Sam McClure has confirmed it as 25 & 30 to Dogs for Stringer.


Sam McClure‏ 5 minutes ago

CONFIRMED:

Stringer to essendon for picks 25 and 30

Sounds like we're still in play for pick 16 from Carlton.

DOG GOD
19-10-2017, 12:26 PM
What good is 25 & 30 in a so called weak draft....FFS.

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:26 PM
That's it I'm out they can get stuffed now.

Grantysghost
19-10-2017, 12:26 PM
Pick 16 reported to dogs for 25 and 30.....

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:26 PM
They're suggesting we may flip 25 + 30 to Carlton for 16...

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:27 PM
Sam McClure has confirmed it as 25 & 30 to Dogs for Stringer.

And we're swapping those picks plus next years 2nd round pick with Carlton for their pick 16.
I'm embarrassed to be a Bulldogs supporter right now...

Mantis
19-10-2017, 12:27 PM
Essendon played us like fools.

Those working on this deal can leave along with Stringer.

jeemak
19-10-2017, 12:27 PM
So we did the deal contingent on getting 16? Seems a bit better.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:27 PM
Perhaps 25 and 28/30 go to carlton for 16

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:28 PM
Why are so damn spineless?

Year in, year out and this caps it off.

I'm embarrassed.

kruder
19-10-2017, 12:28 PM
Pick 16 reported to dogs for 25 and 30.....

Seemed a logical play after the Gibbs trade

choconmientay
19-10-2017, 12:28 PM
So disappointed. We practically give them a free ticket and help them on the bus to top 4 next year. :(

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:28 PM
No wonder Dodoro is grinning and hugging colleagues...

Before letting things go too much, I will wait to see if we are flipping them into something. But right now, the footy world saw us cave in. So good luck to JMacs replacement convincing clubs we stick to our word in negotiations.

GVGjr
19-10-2017, 12:28 PM
Look, it's not a great deal and the committee that oversees the trades would not have been in unanimous support however, if this is what has happened we will be better for losing Stringer in the long run.

Hopefully we will roll up another deal.

Sometimes you just don't have the cards or the will to make the strong stand. It's hard to accept but lets get on with it now.

Go Dogs

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:30 PM
And we're swapping those picks plus next years 2nd round pick with Carlton for their pick 16.
I'm embarrassed to be a Bulldogs supporter right now...

And a second round pick in a super draft?!?!?

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:30 PM
Easy to blame JMAC here but he is far from the only one who influences such a decision.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 12:30 PM
Grant looks happy

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:30 PM
Granty looks fairly relaxed about things.

BornInDroopSt'54
19-10-2017, 12:31 PM
Faaarrrkkk.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:31 PM
Look, it's not a great deal and the committee that oversees the trades would not have been in unanimous support however, if this is what has happened we will be better for losing Stringer in the long run.

Hopefully we will roll up another deal.

Sometimes you just don't have the cards or the will to make the strong stand. It's hard to accept but lets get on with it now.

Go Dogs

If this was the first time in recent memory we got pantsed in a trade I'd be more forgiving.

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 12:31 PM
So the deal of Stringer for 25 and 30 is clearly a win for the Bombers.

If we turn two of 25, 28 and 30 into 16.

Then 16 + the leftover second rounder turns into Schache and 20.

DOG GOD
19-10-2017, 12:32 PM
So pretty much 2 picks in an avge draft and 1 pick in a superdraft, for pick 16 in an avge draft?

There's no much between the ears.

ledge
19-10-2017, 12:32 PM
If he was a cancer at the club it's a great deal.
What's to say he will improve at Essendon ?
And we have got rid of a huge problem for pretty good drafting manoeuvring.

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:32 PM
Chris Grant and Dodoro now back in the signing room with Stringer's manager.

There's a smartphone that seems to be of a lot of interest to Ken Wood (Maybe it's Michael Talia's)

Signing about to happen right now.

Nup - there out of the room again.

This is getting weird.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:33 PM
And a second round pick in a super draft?!?!?

That's just speculation that was on the Age's site Michael Gleeson who reported it.
Hopefully an ambit claim from Carlton

ratsmac
19-10-2017, 12:34 PM
Weak as *!*!*!*!ing piss

ledge
19-10-2017, 12:34 PM
So the deal of Stringer for 25 and 30 is clearly a win for the Bombers.

If we turn two of 25, 28 and 30 into 16.

Then 16 + the leftover second rounder turns into Schache and 20.

Clearly a win ? We just got rid of a cancer at the club and gave it to the bombers. How's that a win for them ? They now have a cancer

EasternWest
19-10-2017, 12:34 PM
Good.

It's done. Let's parlay pick 16 into something good and move forward.

I thank Jake for his efforts in the RWB. He'll always be a premiership hero, but for now he's just an ex player.

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:34 PM
So pretty much 2 picks in an avge draft and 1 pick in a superdraft, for pick 16 in an avge draft?

There's no much between the ears.

And we need points next year.

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 12:37 PM
Clearly a win ? We just got rid of a cancer at the club and gave it to the bombers. How's that a win for them ? They now have a cancer

Clearly a positive result for Essendon, given that they have had to give up nothing of significant value. How about that?

We have the opportunity to use it to our advantage, but the fact that Essendon didn't have to give up anything in the first round for him is a win for them. Dodoro is a prick but he's done an excellent job.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 12:37 PM
Clearly a win ? We just got rid of a cancer at the club and gave it to the bombers. How's that a win for them ? They now have a cancer

Wishful thinking unfortunately

hujsh
19-10-2017, 12:38 PM
Well this sounds garbage. Why can't we stand our ground?

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 12:39 PM
Sam Landsberger ��‏Verified account @SamLandsberger 6m6 minutes ago
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The Dogs have offered pick 25 (a Stringer pick) to Brisbane Lions for Josh Schache. Don’t think that will be enough

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:41 PM
Sam Landsberger ��‏Verified account @SamLandsberger 6m6 minutes ago
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The Dogs have offered pick 25 (a Stringer pick) to Brisbane Lions for Josh Schache. Don’t think that will be enough

IF that's accurate we've obviously moved pass any due diligence concerns with Josh, and he's obviously agreed to terms to come to our Club.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:41 PM
From The Age:
Michael Gleeson is reporting that the Bulldogs are likely to trade picks 28, 30 and a future second-round pick to Carlton for pick 16.

... So two years ago we trade our Pick 11 in a better draft to Carlton for their x2 second rounders, yet in a weaker draft we'll be sending x3 second rounders to Carlton for Pick 16?

FFS.

josie
19-10-2017, 12:43 PM
Let’s judge Stringer trade in a few years. Doubt club would let him go unless there are some very serious issues. Hope we do not give up future pick to obtain 16 fr Blues. Hope we do not lose Jong. Part of me is glad this saga is over. Stringer and his mug manager have shown low ethics and glad to see back of both of them, although I was hoping we would stand firm imagine what a circus WO would have been had we kept him.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 12:43 PM
Barrett giggly like a school girl. So happy

mitch0418
19-10-2017, 12:43 PM
So we folded like a cheap camping chair from ALDI? Pathetic! Now our club looks like the laugh stock and easy beats come every trade period. Not happy if it's true.

Go_Dogs
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
Very disappointing result.

Will be interesting to see how this is communicated to us members.

Greystache
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
May as well put a sign out the front

"Come for our contracted players and we'll take whatever you offer us"

I really wish we could avoid trade week each year, we're a renowned easy victim. Club's will be queuing up to ream us next season.

Jmac can't go soon enough.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
Disgraceful. *!*!*!*!ing shambles

Mantis
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
From The Age:
Michael Gleeson is reporting that the Bulldogs are likely to trade picks 28, 30 and a future second-round pick to Carlton for pick 16.

... So two years ago we trade our Pick 11 in a better draft to Carlton for their x2 second rounders, yet in a weaker draft we'll be sending x3 second rounders to Carlton for Pick 16?

FFS.

I can't believe we could be that stupid.

Selling the farm for pick 16.. WTF?

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
Official:

Jake Stringer now a Bomber.

25 & 30 to Western Bulldogs.

Well played Dodoro.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
It's official #25 plus #30.

http://i63.tinypic.com/6huc0w.png

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:44 PM
Official: 25 & 30

dukedog
19-10-2017, 12:45 PM
25 and 30 what a joke

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:45 PM
Flip side, $500,000 just opened up in our salary cap.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 12:45 PM
.

Jmac can't go soon enough.

Even though Grant signed off on the deal?

jeemak
19-10-2017, 12:45 PM
From The Age:
Michael Gleeson is reporting that the Bulldogs are likely to trade picks 28, 30 and a future second-round pick to Carlton for pick 16.

... So two years ago we trade our Pick 11 in a better draft to Carlton for their x2 second rounders, yet in a weaker draft we'll be sending x3 second rounders to Carlton for Pick 16?



FFS.

What's the point in having picks you won't use? Two second rounders two years ago were worth more than three this year.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:45 PM
So much for all the noise about Jake being contracted if we couldn't be satisfied.

Looks like we're pretty easily satisfied.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:45 PM
From The Age:
Michael Gleeson is reporting that the Bulldogs are likely to trade picks 28, 30 and a future second-round pick to Carlton for pick 16.

... So two years ago we trade our Pick 11 in a better draft to Carlton for their x2 second rounders, yet in a weaker draft we'll be sending x3 second rounders to Carlton for Pick 16?

FFS.

Oh goodie.. might as well let Carlton screw us over as well..what a day..
But wait..the spin on this from the club will be great. PG will give a speech for the ages and the Club will all be very chuffed.
What a perfect fit with our season.

Murphy'sLore
19-10-2017, 12:46 PM
Usually the anxiety is worse than the final result.

Not this time. Very disappointing.

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:46 PM
Chris Grant and Sam Power from Carlton now back in the signing room.

Carlton trade On-Traded Rd1 (16) and Rd3 (40) to WBull for Rd2 (28), On-Traded Rd2 (30) and 2018 Future Rd2.

Interesting that we've held the pick 25.

Maybe this one held for Schache.

But why have we given away our Rd 2 Future pick (Ouch) ???

Topdog
19-10-2017, 12:46 PM
Flip side, $500,000 just opened up in our salary cap.

It would have opened for 11 for Stringer and 26 too.

Ozza
19-10-2017, 12:46 PM
Chris Grant and Sam Power (Carlton) in the room for sign off.

Looks like we've got 16 for 25&30.

Effectively 16 for Stringer.

Edit - unless its 25 & 28 that we give up.

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:47 PM
We need the picks for draft points next year.

dukedog
19-10-2017, 12:47 PM
They have to get 16 off carlton and get shache

GVGjr
19-10-2017, 12:48 PM
Easy to blame JMAC here but he is far from the only one who influences such a decision.

I would go as far to say its probably not what he wanted to accept

Mantis
19-10-2017, 12:48 PM
Flip side, $500,000 just opened up in our salary cap.

To spend on who exactly?

Ozza
19-10-2017, 12:49 PM
To spend on who exactly?

Josh Schache it would appear.

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:49 PM
16 will get Schache done so effectively Stringer for Schache

Ozza
19-10-2017, 12:49 PM
16 will get Schache done so effectively Stringer for Schache

Plough suggesting that Brisbane would snap up 16 for Schache.

Mantis
19-10-2017, 12:50 PM
16 will get Schache done so effectively Stringer for Schache

I could live with that.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 12:50 PM
Chris Grant and Sam Power from Carlton now back in the signing room.

Finally a Sam Power deed I'm not compelled to curse.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 12:50 PM
We have to look at the final result before we condem the club.

Greystache
19-10-2017, 12:51 PM
Even though Grant signed off on the deal?

Absolutely. Either he didn't agree with the trade and his position is untenable. Or this is the best he could do and even needed his boss to finish off his work.

I have no faith in Grant either. I think he's hopelessly out of his depth.

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:51 PM
Well if we think he's as good as his potential and 2016 form it's worth pursuing.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:51 PM
Land Schache and I can breathe again.

Still pissed off that whatever the case, Essendon get Stringer for x2 second round picks.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:51 PM
Schache for Stringer? Yuck.

Give us a 2nd rounder back and i'll be happy

Topdog
19-10-2017, 12:51 PM
gave up our 2nd rounder for next year :(

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:52 PM
Absolutely. Either he didn't agree with the trade and his position is untenable. Or this is the best he could do and even needed his boss to finish off his work.

I have no faith in Grant either. I think he's hopelessly out of his depth.

Agreed - never been convinced on Grant and the evidence is piling up.

Grantysghost
19-10-2017, 12:52 PM
16 and 40 to us, 28,30 and 2018 Rd2 to blues.

whythelongface
19-10-2017, 12:52 PM
To be honest i am just glad the saga is over. We can now get on with playing football and not have to worry about the drama.

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:52 PM
No wonder Carlton did the deal. That was steak knives for Gibbs lol.

Ozza
19-10-2017, 12:53 PM
Not mad keen that we've given up round 2 2018 pick.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:53 PM
gave up our 2nd rounder for next year :(

Has that been confirmed?

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 12:53 PM
gave up our 2nd rounder for next year :(

I haven't heard that officially yet. Is that final?

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 12:53 PM
gave up our 2nd rounder for next year :(

First time I've been surprised today. That's ridiculous.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:54 PM
It's going from bad to worse.

Doc26
19-10-2017, 12:54 PM
I haven't heard that officially yet. Is that final?

Yes it is confirmed.

Hard to get my head around giving up our Round 2 next year.

Seems like we've completely lost the plot.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:55 PM
That is awful from us. Just awful

choconmientay
19-10-2017, 12:55 PM
AFL trade news: DONE DEAL: Blues and Dogs trade picks



The Western Bulldogs have received pick 16 and pick 40 from Carlton in exchange for picks 28 and 30 this year and a second round pick next year.

Ozza
19-10-2017, 12:55 PM
At this point its looking like Carlton and Essendon have feasted on us.

EasternWest
19-10-2017, 12:55 PM
I could live with that.

Me too. That'd be just fine.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 12:55 PM
I haven't heard that officially yet. Is that final?

I have now

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 12:56 PM
OUT: Stringer, Pick 28, Pick 30 & 2018 2nd Rounder
IN: Pick 16, Pick 40

Is that really what we have done?

That is disgraceful.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 12:56 PM
Someone with any knowledge how this affects our points for next year? Would we have used our 2nd rounder? I don't get how getting 40 this year helps us next year when we need points for West next year

Greystache
19-10-2017, 12:56 PM
To spend on who exactly?

Do we have enough first round draft picks to throw at other clubs to recruit a player worth that much?

Maybe we could offer pick 9, and next year's first round for Lang? We'd probably try to sweeten the deal with our 2nd round for their 5th, and then wait by the phone with fingers crossed.

G-Mo77
19-10-2017, 12:57 PM
What a *!*!*!*!ing joke.

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:57 PM
out: Stringer, pick 28, pick 30 & 2018 2nd rounder
in: Pick 16, pick 40

is that really what we have done?

That is disgraceful.

that looks absolutely abhorrent!

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 12:58 PM
28 with 40 gives us a lot more room on Schache. Those points alone on DVI are pick 15. Great if Ballenden goes about 20.

We could tinker 16 for 20, so they get in before a Ballenden nomination. So 16, 28 & 40 for Schache & 20.

Or adding 40 with a player for Schache. Or down grade 9 to 12 & 16 to 20.

If we want Schache, there's a few ways to get him.

DOG GOD
19-10-2017, 12:58 PM
It can get worse....we will give 16 to lions for schache, pretty much giving us picks 9 and 40 and (rsmith) this draft

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 12:58 PM
We are a complete laughing stock trade wise.
I shudder to think how we'll comport ourselves come the time Bont is renegotiating in his final contract year.. clubs will be queuing up to get him for a steal.
Cue Lions up to try and ream us on Schache next.

whythelongface
19-10-2017, 12:58 PM
OUT: Stringer, Pick 28, Pick 30 & 2018 2nd Rounder
IN: Pick 16, Pick 40

Is that really what we have done?

That is disgraceful.

Hopefully we will use these to on trade for another player. Schache perhaps?

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 12:59 PM
Well we have 61 minutes to stuff it up.

Greystache
19-10-2017, 01:00 PM
Just step away from the table. You've already lost your pants.

How can we be this hopeless. It doesn't seem possible.

Doc26
19-10-2017, 01:00 PM
OUT: Stringer, Pick 28, Pick 30 & 2018 2nd Rounder
IN: Pick 16, Pick 40

Is that really what we have done?

That is disgraceful.

No wonder J-Mac was nowhere to be seen.
How did we manage to just lose Stringer and also give up our 2nd round pick next year in a much stronger draft? Has this just been some ludicrous face saving exercise to somehow say that we get 16 this year for losing Stringer. So not only have we been reamed by Dodoro, we can also add Silvagni. Amateurs.

jeemak
19-10-2017, 01:00 PM
Is trade period about who has the most toys wins, or is it about list management?

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 01:00 PM
16 and 40 for 28 and 30 is an equal deal. Absolutely no need for the 2018 second to be involved.

We can't give up 16 on it's own IMO. I'd be happy with 16 and 25 for Schache and 20/Brisbane's 2018 second rounder.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 01:01 PM
OUT: Stringer, Pick 28, Pick 30 & 2018 2nd Rounder
IN: Pick 16, Pick 40

Is that really what we have done?

That is disgraceful.

Projecting that 2018 pick to be something in the 22-30 range, in a reputedly very deep draft, it looks dire.

Assuming we land Schache; hey Josh, no pressure mate.

chef
19-10-2017, 01:02 PM
Haha all you can do is laugh. What a cock up

angelopetraglia
19-10-2017, 01:02 PM
16 and 40 = 1496 points

28 and 30 = 1306 points

Future 2nd rounder (say we finish 9th so pick 27) = 703 points

Yep. Absolutely raped again.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:03 PM
I'm thinking we will do the following:

Pick 9, Pick 25, Jong & 2018 First Round for Josh Schache and 2018 4th Round.

Remi Moses
19-10-2017, 01:03 PM
There's also another trade period next season to get s second rounder back .

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 01:03 PM
Why not a third rounder in 2018 back? That at least appears less incompetent.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:03 PM
Lads, if we don't laugh we'll cry.

G-Mo77
19-10-2017, 01:04 PM
There's also another trade period next season to get s second rounder back .

We shouldn't need to, had one and traded it for magic beans.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 01:04 PM
I wonder if some enterprising journo can get hold of the compromising pictures Dodoro evidently has of our recruiting team.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:05 PM
Is trade period about who has the most toys wins, or is it about list management?

Its about list management and we have stuffed that up on the last day of the trade period.

Greystache
19-10-2017, 01:05 PM
There's another hour to go. This could still get much worse. The AFL can and likely would allow us to piss away next year's first pick if the deal looks shitty enough.

Scraggers
19-10-2017, 01:05 PM
Good.

It's done. Let's parlay pick 16 into something good and move forward.

I thank Jake for his efforts in the RWB. He'll always be a premiership hero, but for now he's just an ex player.

Yep ... Break leg champ !!

Murphy'sLore
19-10-2017, 01:06 PM
Okay, that's it, I want BT in charge of our next trade period.

I'm not even joking.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 01:07 PM
I have a feeling there will be memberships cancelled.

Remi Moses
19-10-2017, 01:08 PM
End of the day ( should I say posturing ) we looked desperate to rid of Stringer . Added to the off field issues it was going to be hard to get an early pick .

G-Mo77
19-10-2017, 01:08 PM
I have a feeling there will be memberships cancelled.

There will be anyway but this doesn't help. Even if we get Shache I don't know how they can sell this.

EasternWest
19-10-2017, 01:08 PM
Yep ... Break leg champ !!

You're better than that.

Throughandthrough
19-10-2017, 01:08 PM
I have a feeling there will be memberships cancelled.

And presumably a few members will now renew knowing that the club has got rid of a piece of dirt human.

angelopetraglia
19-10-2017, 01:09 PM
I don't see how this ends well for us .... unless Stringer does a Yarran, Fevola or Benell.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 01:09 PM
This wouldn't sting quite so badly if it was anyone but the Bumbers.

With all their acolytes in the meeja the 'we're coming' narrative for the next 12 months is going to be f*cking insufferable.

The bulldog tragician
19-10-2017, 01:09 PM
The obligatary photo of jake in Essendon Jumper is now on fox website
Https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/jake-stringer-trade-news-bulldogs-mulling-how-to-make-bombers-deal-happen/news-story/ec00a00c952773172e835d1a98e0fcae

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 01:09 PM
Bombers tweeting a pic of Stringer in a bumbers guernsey. Not photo-shopped. Arrogant pricks

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 01:10 PM
Okay, that's it, I want BT in charge of our next trade period.

I'm not even joking.

So do I!!

Eastdog
19-10-2017, 01:10 PM
End of the day ( should I say posturing ) we looked desperate to rid of Stringer . Added to the off field issues it was going to be hard to get an early pick .

Yes while the overall result is dissapointing yeah it comes back to his form the last 2 years and the off field issues he has had. 2015 Jake Stringer worth a first rounder.

bulldogtragic
19-10-2017, 01:11 PM
Bombers tweeting a pic of Stringer in a bumbers guernsey. Not photo-shopped. Arrogant pricks

They saw us coming a mile away. That's the proof absolute.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 01:11 PM
End of the day ( should I say posturing ) we looked desperate to rid of Stringer . Added to the off field issues it was going to be hard to get an early pick .

Yeah i think that speaks louder than words. He must have been incredibly toxic to the playing group if we were that desperate to get rid of him.

But doesn't explain why JJ is on holidays with him.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:12 PM
Yeah i think that speaks louder than words. He must have been incredibly toxic to the playing group if we were that desperate to get rid of him.

But doesn't explain why JJ is on holidays with him.

Because they are friends..... They've been best mates for a long time.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 01:13 PM
They saw us coming a mile away. That's the proof absolute.

Puzzling. PG is a renowned negotiator too.

Eastdog
19-10-2017, 01:13 PM
So under an hour left do we use pick 25 and 30 to trade again?

whythelongface
19-10-2017, 01:13 PM
Yeah i think that speaks louder than words. He must have been incredibly toxic to the playing group if we were that desperate to get rid of him.

But doesn't explain why JJ is on holidays with him.

aren't they besties??

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-10-2017, 01:14 PM
So under an hour left do we use pick 25 and 30 to trade again?

I don't know..surely clubs must be lining up to see if they can rob us too.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 01:14 PM
Because they are friends..... They've been best mates for a long time.

Yet the article from Abby implied JJ was one of the most peed off with him. Must be more to it i guess

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:14 PM
So under an hour left do we use pick 25 and 30 to trade again?

They are already gone mate.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:15 PM
Yet the article from Abby implied JJ was one of the most peed off with him. Must be more to it i guess

I'm sure he wasnt impressed and Im sure he likes Abby but at the end of the day he is Jakes mate, not Abbys

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 01:16 PM
I'm sure he wasnt impressed and Im sure he likes Abby but at the end of the day he is Jakes mate, not Abbys

Which is fine. That's their business. But that also means that article had nothing to do with why we want to get rid of him.

jeemak
19-10-2017, 01:17 PM
Its about list management and we have stuffed that up on the last day of the trade period.

We had no leverage and ended up with two first round picks.

We'll find a second round pick for next year if we want one.

Let's see how the draft goes before we pull our skirts over our heads.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:17 PM
Which is fine. That's their business. But that also means that article had nothing to do with why we want to get rid of him.

Of course it doesnt. Did anyone actually think we wanted him gone because he cheated on his partner?

The gambling would have been more of a concern.

angelopetraglia
19-10-2017, 01:18 PM
We have removed a seriously bad human being from the club. Seriously. The media is only looking at the upside of Stringer. What about the flaws in his character:

-Bad trainer
-Not professional
-Gambling issues
-Not faithful
-Actually slept with a 17 year old girl while his partner was pregnant with their 2nd child
-Liar
-Has been constantly injured all year
-Has had two terrible years
-Didn't touch the ball Grand Final Day. Had a shocker.
-Got dropped in our Premiership year

Good luck Essendon. Bombers again not worrying about morals and ethics. Whatever it takes.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 01:19 PM
Of course it doesnt. Did anyone actually think we wanted him gone because he cheated on his partner?

The gambling would have been more of a concern.

Gambling and cheating on his partner. Neither affect the club really. I don't buy it. There's a lot more to it that we don't know IMO.

Scraggers
19-10-2017, 01:19 PM
You're better than that.

I actually meant it sincerely, but I can see how it can be construed otherwise. His goal in the Grand Final or his pass to Tory in the dying seconds of the prelim is how I want to remember him ... not this trade

Doc26
19-10-2017, 01:19 PM
So big question remaining is will we get Schache for our newly acquired 25?

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 01:20 PM
There asking for Jong with 25 or pick 16.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:21 PM
There asking for Jong with 25 or pick 16.

And the bending over continues.

kruder
19-10-2017, 01:21 PM
I'd be stunned if we don't take Schache now, the club is in damage control we need to take a punt on him surely. A lot of harsh words been driven at JMAC and Grant, I would be questioning Bevo to be honest we were never going to get a good deal for Jake after his interview.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:21 PM
Gambling and cheating on his partner. Neither affect the club really. I don't buy it. There's a lot more to it that we don't know IMO.

Gambling most definitely could affect the club. If he has a serious addiction it could be causing him to be late to training, getting him in a bad mood and really taking over his life. Please note I said COULD as I have no idea how bad he was.

Doc26
19-10-2017, 01:23 PM
Interesting Hawthorn at signing table with the Lions.

Schache or Hodge or both??

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:23 PM
Interesting Hawthorn at signing table with the Lions.

Has to be for Hodge.

Webby
19-10-2017, 01:24 PM
We have removed a seriously bad human being from the club. Seriously. The media is only looking at the upside of Stringer. What about the flaws in his character:

-Bad trainer
-Not professional
-Gambling issues
-Not faithful
-Actually slept with a 17 year old girl while his partner was pregnant with their 2nd child
-Liar
-Has been constantly injured all year
-Has had two terrible years
-Didn't touch the ball Grand Final Day. Had a shocker.
-Got dropped in our Premiership year

Good luck Essendon. Bombers again not worrying about morals and ethics. Whatever it takes.

You forgot work place bully and a couple of other really funky boxes Jake has ticked..!
The biggest of which is that he's uncoachable and knows it all - despite not knowing much at all..!

jeemak
19-10-2017, 01:25 PM
I'd be stunned if we don't take Schache now, the club is in damage control we need to take a punt on him surely. A lot of harsh words been driven at JMAC and Grant, I would be questioning Bevo to be honest we were never going to get a good deal for Jake after his interview.

Bevo only said something non industry people weren't aware of. It made no difference in the end.

bulldogsthru&thru
19-10-2017, 01:25 PM
we have half an hour to save face a little

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 01:26 PM
Gambling most definitely could affect the club. If he has a serious addiction it could be causing him to be late to training, getting him in a bad mood and really taking over his life. Please note I said COULD as I have no idea how bad he was.

And then he goes to Vegas. Hilarious.

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 01:26 PM
You forgot work place bully and a couple of other really funky boxes Jake has ticked..!
The biggest of which is that he's uncoachable and knows it all - despite not knowing much at all..!

Given at least one player's voluntary spell this year you could argue there's an element of addition by subtraction.

ledge
19-10-2017, 01:26 PM
Gambling and cheating on his partner. Neither affect the club really. I don't buy it. There's a lot more to it that we don't know IMO.

I beg to differ if he is leading other players astray it's a huge problem for the club.

Mantis
19-10-2017, 01:27 PM
There asking for Jong with 25 or pick 16.

I’d be pissed off if we offload Jong.. Our midfield is so one paced it isn’t funny.

He atleast has a point of difference.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 01:28 PM
You forgot work place bully and a couple of other really funky boxes Jake has ticked..!
The biggest of which is that he's uncoachable and knows it all - despite not knowing much at all..!

I mentioned previously that Gary Lyon said he was that way even in the under 16's

kruder
19-10-2017, 01:28 PM
Should be Campbell not Jong

G-Mo77
19-10-2017, 01:29 PM
Should be Campbell not Jong

He doesn't want to go

Remi Moses
19-10-2017, 01:31 PM
Gee some serious bed wetting on here . Football is all about buy in , and Stringer has checked out since 2015.
Off field issues effect a football club , let's not pretend it doesn't .

kruder
19-10-2017, 01:32 PM
Can you still believe the AFL are still using paperwork in the deal process?

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:34 PM
Can you still believe the AFL are still using paperwork in the deal process?

Silly things like signatures.

Insufficient Intent
19-10-2017, 01:34 PM
He doesn't want to go
Campbell or Jong? Or both?

1eyedog
19-10-2017, 01:34 PM
Schache for 16 wait for it...

Daughter of the West
19-10-2017, 01:35 PM
Campbell or Jong? Or both?

If Jong is shipped off after all the hoo ha last year, I would be completely filthy.

That's not to say I'm not already...

kruder
19-10-2017, 01:35 PM
Schache for 16 wait for it...

And Jong

Greystache
19-10-2017, 01:35 PM
Schache for 16 wait for it...

And next year's first round for their 2nd round, or even third.

G-Mo77
19-10-2017, 01:36 PM
Gee some serious bed wetting on here . Football is all about buy in , and Stringer has checked out since 2015.
Off field issues effect a football club , let's not pretend it doesn't .

He is still an asset though, look not happy with 2×2 but it's best we could get, I could live with that. What I'm livid about is the 2018 2nd round pick going out with the 2 picks for Jake to get #16. It's rubbish.

So we traded Stringer and our 2018 2nd Rounder for #16. We may as well of taken the "Pick 11" deal that Essendon offered us

Webby
19-10-2017, 01:36 PM
Silly things like signatures.

The Carlton/Adelaide debacle a good case in point. Formal process, terms laid out, agreed and signed. Still the best check and balances process.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:36 PM
LOL the guys in charge of the camera finally realised they can move it so we can see peoples head!

G-Mo77
19-10-2017, 01:37 PM
Campbell or Jong? Or both?

Campbell

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:38 PM
In terms of the draft picks we currently have vs list spots, where are we at?

Honeychurch will be delisted, but is that enough?

kruder
19-10-2017, 01:38 PM
Bevo only said something non industry people weren't re of. It made no difference in the end.

What club coach has come out before trade period and said we don't want X player? And then ask for decent compensation? Absolute balls up from all involved including Bevo.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:39 PM
He is still an asset though, look not happy with 2×2 but it's best we could get, I could live with that. What I'm livid about is the 2018 2nd round pick going out with the 2 picks for Jake to get #16. It's rubbish.

So we traded Stringer and our 2018 2nd Rounder for #16. We may as well of taken the "Pick 11" deal that Essendon offered us

Spot on! Let that sink in.

Stringer and 2018 2nd Round (24-30??) for 16.

We had Stringer and 26 for 11 on the table!!?!

ledge
19-10-2017, 01:40 PM
I'm Not big on how high a draft pick you get , their is plenty of evidence to suggest top Ten don't make it and picks in the 30s or higher do.
Look at our premiership side rookies, picken , Morris I think even MBoyd? and blokes like Daniel, Biggs.
A club is successful by its drive culture and development.
Let's not be silly here the club would have ideas on who they want and what draft picks they need, we eyed off Crozier for 6 years and I think Trengove was on our radar last year, from what I am seeing from them to is they are very professional and were well loved by the fans and club.
I'm comfortable with bringing in talented footballers with great club mentality than a player who has definitely bought down the group.
Clubs are a team not one player and I believe we will get more out of Crozier on and off the field than just a highlight real of someone who does the amazing things but won't do the 1%ers.
A few players will probably be better again now Jakes gone if we believe some of what we hear, it's also a sign we have non negotiables and if you don't pull your weight your gone no matter how good you think you are.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:42 PM
Spot on! Let that sink in.

Stringer and 2018 2nd Round (24-30??) for 16.

We had Stringer and 26 for 11 on the table!!?!

Unbelievable.

Hope this exact question is put to the club.

In all seriousness, JMAC leaves and questions need to be asked about Grant. At what point might we ask questions about Bevo too, because his handling of this situation was putrid and on face value appears to have had as bad of a 2017 as any.

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 01:43 PM
He is still an asset though, look not happy with 2×2 but it's best we could get, I could live with that. What I'm livid about is the 2018 2nd round pick going out with the 2 picks for Jake to get #16. It's rubbish.

So we traded Stringer and our 2018 2nd Rounder for #16. We may as well of taken the "Pick 11" deal that Essendon offered us

As laid out in a graphic by the Bulldogs, the trade as it stands is basically:
OUT Stringer, 28 and 2018 2nd round pick
IN 16, 25 and 40

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:43 PM
Charlie Cameron for pick 12.....is this real life?

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:44 PM
As laid out in a graphic by the Bulldogs, the trade as it stands is basically:
OUT Stringer, 28 and 2018 2nd round pick
IN 16, 25 and 40

I thought pick 30 was also involved? So we did 16 for 2 second round selections?

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:45 PM
Schache looking unlikely.

Remi Moses
19-10-2017, 01:45 PM
The only thing that is " putrid" is Stringer's behaviour . Please find some perspective .
One club was interested in a bloke who's checked out for two years .

Mantis
19-10-2017, 01:46 PM
Charlie Cameron for pick 12.....is this real life?

That's fair.

Brisbane could use it on some kid who leaves in 2 years for pick 40 something... At least they have a highly talented player coming in who wants to be there.

jeemak
19-10-2017, 01:47 PM
Unbelievable.

Hope this exact question is put to the club.

In all seriousness, JMAC leaves and questions need to be asked about Grant. At what point might we ask questions about Bevo too, because his handling of this situation was putrid and on face value appears to have had as bad of a 2017 as any.

But then everyone would have gone completely apeshit for doing the deal too early. Can't have it both ways, we held out for something better and it didn't arrive.

Murphy'sLore
19-10-2017, 01:47 PM
The gloating from Essendon is already unbearable.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:47 PM
Seeing Dodo look so happy is making me sick.

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 01:47 PM
I thought pick 30 was also involved? So we did 16 for 2 second round selections?

It was but it came in and out so not included in the overall picture.

The Bulldogs Bite
19-10-2017, 01:48 PM
Seeing Dodo look so happy is making me sick.

I was about to post the same thing.

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:48 PM
Dodo just said we were terrific to deal with. Not surprised he thinks so!

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:49 PM
It was but it came in and out so not included in the overall picture.

OK so Stringer for 16
28 for 25
40 for 2018 second round which will probably be 24-30.

How is this good?

jeemak
19-10-2017, 01:49 PM
What club coach has come out before trade period and said we don't want X player? And then ask for decent compensation? Absolute balls up from all involved including Bevo.

He said that we will explore options for him, but we want something good in return.

Once we got to the table, it would have been abundantly obvious to anyone concerned that we wanted him gone. Couple that with industry knowledge of what type of person Stringer is, and how he approaches professionalism then it makes no difference. The industry is too small for it to, the media tries to act as if it isn't, but it really is.

Ozza
19-10-2017, 01:50 PM
That's fair.

Brisbane could use it on some kid who leaves in 2 years for pick 40 something... At least they have a highly talented player coming in who wants to be there.

Spot on.

Picks are overrated. Proven talent, and players happy to be at a club are much more valuable.

Bulldog4life
19-10-2017, 01:50 PM
But then everyone would have gone completely apeshit for doing the deal too early. Can't have it both ways, we held out for something better and it didn't arrive.

Exactly. We traded Lake early and we haven't heard the end of it. We held out for a better trade for Stringer and it didn't work out. Them's the breaks.

Dry Rot
19-10-2017, 01:50 PM
I am losing track of everything.

What trades have we done today?

Rocket Science
19-10-2017, 01:50 PM
Dodo just said we were terrific to deal with. Not surprised he thinks so!

Also said they've "had some honest dialogue with Jake" about the work he has to do.

*grabs popcorn*

Topdog
19-10-2017, 01:51 PM
I am losing track of everything.

What trades have done today?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/trade/trade-talk

jazzadogs
19-10-2017, 01:51 PM
OK so Stringer for 16
28 for 25
40 for 2018 second round which will probably be 24-30.

How is this good?

It's not, unless we somehow win the flag and that second rounder is actually 36.