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bulldogtragic
23-09-2017, 06:51 PM
If Trengove comes in, I think we are covered for tall defenders and rucks. Unless Lever wants in, or a very good specialist ruck is on the cheap.

Back flanks seemed well stocked still.

A tall forward would be nice, if a decent one became available, as would medium forwards now if Stringer, Crameri, Honey, Hamilton & Tweedie are going/gone.

Midfielders who can hit targets are welcome too.

I think we desperately need a good specialist forward pocket. Betts & Cameron sparkled last night, the Rioli's generally but now as well bring a pressure through agility and leg speed we just don't have.


The big question is can we address multiple needs in one trade season. Richmond last year picked up Prestia, Caddy & Nankervis and have two first rounders this year with the loss of one bigger player in Deledio.

Eastdog
23-09-2017, 08:31 PM
Yes will be very interesting come trade week. Trengove would be a good get. The ruck is an area we need to address. Will Tommy Campbell get more opportunity there and actually get some form or will Roughy be our number 1 ruck. Our midfield looks quite good Libba, Wallis, Bont, Dahl, Macrae, Hunter. Looking forward to seeing how Dunkley goes next year. Out injured for most of 2017 so didn't get going.

We need to have better luck with injuries which hurt particular our backline this year with players out during certain periods.

Really hoping Tom Boyd has strong 2018 and plays mainly up forward.

We really need to improve our skill level as well because at times it was below AFL standard this year.

bornadog
23-09-2017, 11:29 PM
The one thing I like about GWS is the pace of some of their mids, they can move the ball very quickly.

I would be looking for pace in the midfield as well as a small goal kicker who should be feeding off Tom Boyd in the forward pocket.

I also think we need another ruckman, with some mobility.

GVGjr
23-09-2017, 11:44 PM
The one thing I like about GWS is the pace of some of their mids, they can move the ball very quickly.

I would be looking for pace in the midfield as well as a small goal kicker who should be feeding off Tom Boyd in the forward pocket.

I also think we need another ruckman, with some mobility.

Agreed, I also think we needed exactly the same 12 months ago

DOG GOD
24-09-2017, 08:36 AM
The one thing I like about GWS is the pace of some of their mids, they can move the ball very quickly.

I would be looking for pace in the midfield as well as a small goal kicker who should be feeding off Tom Boyd in the forward pocket.

I also think we need another ruckman, with some mobility.

Love your thinking....

With stringer and Crameri most likely gone, I'm VERY worried about how our fwd set up will look next year. 2 relative quick forward flankers need to be replaced with similiar ilk. This is why I think we should make a play for Motlop. His pace is needed and definately required, and we need more than him.

I'd also look at moving JJ up the ground to wing/HF. He's proved to be a good kick for goal both on the run and set shot. A fit wood to play the running role with Williams.

Is Stefan Martin still on our radar ?

GVGjr
24-09-2017, 09:38 AM
Love your thinking....

With stringer and Crameri most likely gone, I'm VERY worried about how our fwd set up will look next year. 2 relative quick forward flankers need to be replaced with similiar ilk. This is why I think we should make a play for Motlop. His pace is needed and definately required, and we need more than him.

I'd also look at moving JJ up the ground to wing/HF. He's proved to be a good kick for goal both on the run and set shot. A fit wood to play the running role with Williams.

Is Stefan Martin still on our radar ?

I agree and think it's almost a must move.

Seems to have gone quiet on a potential Martin move from Brisbane. Perhaps Scahche is getting all the headlines

josie
24-09-2017, 12:39 PM
Totally agree with BaD, need skill and pace in midfield as first priority and mobile forwards who can kick straight and keep ball i50. Unless Roughy can turn on 2015 form or Campbell become more mobile and clunk more marks we definitely need another ready to go ruck. The no 3rd man up rule really stuffed us up, plus our Los of men of mayhem.

Remi Moses
24-09-2017, 02:45 PM
I'd like Motlop also . Yes he is frustratingly inconsistent , but he has assets we need in pace and kicking .

Dry Rot
24-09-2017, 03:24 PM
Saad is allegedly leaving the Suns.

Thoughts?

bulldogtragic
24-09-2017, 03:29 PM
Saad is allegedly leaving the Suns.

Thoughts?

Averaging 16.5 disposals at 82.3% over his career. Getting better too. Seems to possess traits we lack.

Remi Moses
24-09-2017, 03:35 PM
Breaks the lines and is quick . Be a decent pick up

Rocco Jones
24-09-2017, 03:56 PM
One thing I would like to see with our recruiting is bringing in guys with good burst speed or ability/desire to build a strong tank to add to our team's forward pressure. I think it's the easiest way to find valuable players. These types so worth so much more than the sum of their parts. I think they are easier to get, in a moneyball sense, as it's only a couple of raw attributes they need.

It's why I am not so concerned with losing Stringer. As remarkable as his best is, guys who are prone to offering little forward pressure can be massive liabilities. A player who I believe in massively underrated is Jack Riewoldt. So good at making a contest then second effort.

Dry Rot
24-09-2017, 04:31 PM
I have read that Saad wants to return to Victoria

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/player-profile/adam-saad

Never see Suns games - presume he plays as a small forward or a running back man? Defensive pressure? What would he cost in a trade?

DOG GOD
24-09-2017, 04:43 PM
Saad would be the ideal replacement at half back to allow JJ more fwd time Dry Rot.

I certainly love his run and carry from what I've seen...takes the game on and usually good with disposable.

Has he been prone to soft tissue injuries though?

Seems to have good attitude.

Not sure what it would cost....maybe between picks 20-25?

kruder
24-09-2017, 06:18 PM
Averaging 16.5 disposals at 82.3% over his career. Getting better too. Seems to possess traits we lack.

We should be all over him.

GVGjr
24-09-2017, 06:21 PM
I have read that Saad wants to return to Victoria

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/player-profile/adam-saad

Never see Suns games - presume he plays as a small forward or a running back man? Defensive pressure? What would he cost in a trade?

I think he plays off half back. A run and carry player.
He has a contract for next season and played every game for the Suns this year so he might cost a bit to get him.
If we did land him it might free up JJ to play on a wing or half forward

Dry Rot
24-09-2017, 06:29 PM
I think he plays off half back. A run and carry player.
He has a contract for next season and played every game for the Suns this year so he might cost a bit to get him.
If we did land him it might free up JJ to play on a wing or half forward

Thanks.

Rumour has it that he wants to return home.

What are your thoughts on Motlop? I've seen quite strong opinions either way.

GVGjr
24-09-2017, 06:33 PM
Thanks.

Rumour has it that he wants to return home.

What are your thoughts on Motlop? I've seen quite strong opinions either way.

Not sure and I haven't given him a lot of thought.

Twodogs
25-09-2017, 01:44 AM
Love your thinking....

With stringer and Crameri most likely gone, I'm VERY worried about how our fwd set up will look next year. 2 relative quick forward flankers need to be replaced with similiar ilk. This is why I think we should make a play for Motlop. His pace is needed and definately required, and we need more than him.

I'd also look at moving JJ up the ground to wing/HF. He's proved to be a good kick for goal both on the run and set shot. A fit wood to play the running role with Williams.

Is Stefan Martin still on our radar ?


I agree and think it's almost a must move.

Seems to have gone quiet on a potential Martin move from Brisbane. Perhaps Scahche is getting all the headlines


What about Adams spending more time forward? His kicking straightens up and seems less of a liability in attack than in defence. The times I've seen him forward he seems to hold the ball and choose better options than he does in defence where his disposal can be a bit hurried.

I also think that Dahlhaus could spend more time forward. He's really clever in attack and his disposal can hurt teams in a way it just doesn't on-ball.


Saad is allegedly leaving the Suns.

Thoughts?



I have read that Saad wants to return to Victoria

http://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/player-profile/adam-saad

Never see Suns games - presume he plays as a small forward or a running back man? Defensive pressure? What would he cost in a trade?

Yes please. He's a good kick and we just don't have enough players who can kick.

always right
27-09-2017, 09:55 PM
What about Adams spending more time forward? His kicking straightens up and seems less of a liability in attack than in defence. The times I've seen him forward he seems to hold the ball and choose better options than he does in defence where his disposal can be a bit hurried.

I also think that Dahlhaus could spend more time forward. He's really clever in attack and his disposal can hurt teams in a way it just doesn't on-ball.

Yes please. He's a good kick and we just don't have enough players who can kick.

Agree on Dahl and Adams playing forward more. I don't however think Adams chooses poor options, he just doesn't execute them well.....mainly when going short by hand or foot.

As for Saad......yes please. Pace to burn and takes the game on. Exactly what we need.

The Bulldogs Bite
27-09-2017, 10:42 PM
I would be all over Saad - exactly what we need

bornadog
27-09-2017, 10:51 PM
I would be all over Saad - exactly what we need

Stevo reporting he wants to come home. Agree we should be all over him.

GVGjr
29-09-2017, 02:48 PM
We need a bit of everything and appear to have addressed the need for a good tall in Trengove and now seem to be focusing on improving our foot skills by giving Crozier a good look.

I tend to think if we could acquire Daniel Menzel as a FA forward who kicks some goals and or trade for Adam Saad that would balance things pretty well for us.
Nothing to get too excited about but we do struggle to attract the high profile players unless we pay a premium

At some stage we will need to have a hard look at our list, I get why we didn't make a lot of changes last year but we appear to have followed it again again this year. There should be quite a few on notice that a less than satisfactory effort in 2018 will finish their careers with us

bulldogtragic
29-09-2017, 03:20 PM
We need a bit of everything and appear to have addressed the need for a good tall in Trengove and now seem to be focusing on improving our foot skills by giving Crozier a good look.

I tend to think if we could acquire Daniel Menzel as a FA forward who kicks some goals and or trade for Adam Saad that would balance things pretty well for us.
Nothing to get too excited about but we do struggle to attract the high profile players unless we pay a premium

At some stage we will need to have a hard look at our list, I get why we didn't make a lot of changes last year but we appear to have followed it again again this year. There should be quite a few on notice that a less than satisfactory effort in 2018 will finish their careers with us

If Stringer goes, with good legal manipulation of payments, we could bank an awful lot of salary cap for a 2018 FA raid.

azabob
29-09-2017, 03:31 PM
If Stringer goes, with good legal manipulation of payments, we could bank an awful lot of salary cap for a 2018 FA raid.

BT my concern is we have cash to splash but no one to spend it on.

bulldogtragic
29-09-2017, 03:40 PM
BT my concern is we have cash to splash but no one to spend it on.

We can though, next year. Like GCS with GAJ, we bring forward other contracts. Say we have $1,500,000 'spare' if Stringer goes this year. We could just ask Tom Boyd, Bonts & JJ etc to take some if their contract early to the tune of $1,500,000.

So we've paid the maximum amount, but now we have these guys on $1,500,000 less. If JMac does his stuff right, next year we've manoeuvred the contracts that we can make a $1,500,000 offer on a Tom Lynch type if that's what we want to do.

So hopefully our list manager is all over it, be it JMac or me as his replacement, Mr Gordon...

Dry Rot
29-09-2017, 04:04 PM
Any more word on Schache leaving the Lions?

bulldogtragic
29-09-2017, 04:06 PM
Any more word on Schache leaving the Lions?

He told woofer Chef's daughter; that he's staying at Brisbane. Whilst leading a footy clinic.