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Eastdog
13-06-2018, 07:26 PM
Predictions:
- Margin
- Our first goal kicker
- Our best on ground

Margin: Bulldogs by 1 point

Our first goal kicker: Billy Gowers

Our best on ground: Lachie Hunter

Go Bulldogs!!

Rocket Science
13-06-2018, 08:30 PM
Result - Port by 47
First major - Wallis
BOG - Macrae

Dixon's looking for form, he's going to find it.

I'm going to add another prediction category : how many goals will we kick?

Five.

bulldogtragic
13-06-2018, 08:32 PM
Port by 70
Bog Macrae
FG Macrae

How many we kick, 6.11

AndrewP6
13-06-2018, 08:42 PM
Port by 33. No reason, just praying we don't get thumped too much!
First goal - Schache
BOG for us Bont
how many goals will we kick? 8.12

The Bulldogs Bite
13-06-2018, 10:38 PM
Port by 62
First goal McLean
BOG McLean.

We’ll struggle to kick 5 goals.

Eastdog
13-06-2018, 10:42 PM
Ok I'll predict us to win by a point and kick 10.13

Twodogs
14-06-2018, 12:02 AM
Us by 13 points.
First goal-Josh Schache
BOG-Jack Macrae

Greystache
14-06-2018, 02:27 AM
Port by 30
BOG- Macrae
First goal- Gowers

How many goals- 4.16

SlimPickens
14-06-2018, 07:23 AM
How many goals- 4.16

From 32 shots :)

westdog54
14-06-2018, 08:56 AM
Result - Port by 47
First major - Wallis
BOG - Macrae

Dixon's looking for form, he's going to find it.

I'm going to add another prediction category : how many goals will we kick?

Five.

There's a certain level of masochism required to follow this club, isn't there.

Result - Port by 12. We'll be competitive but it wont be enough
First goal - Bont
BOG - Trengove to blanket Dickson.

And I'll join in the game, we'll kick 9.12

Greystache
14-06-2018, 09:05 AM
From 32 shots :)

Indeed. In fairness not all of the 12 misses will be out on the full, a number won't make the distance from 30m. :D

Mantis
14-06-2018, 09:28 AM
Indeed. In fairness not all of the 12 misses will be out on the full, a number won't make the distance from 30m. :D

How many of those will be kicked by the trio of Wallis, Dahlhaus & Hunter?

Ozza
14-06-2018, 09:40 AM
How many of those will be kicked by the trio of Wallis, Dahlhaus & Hunter?

Your disdain for Wallis knows no bounds Mantis!! Can’t put Wally in their category for goal kicking! Very solid from 0-40.

Port by 27 points
Dogs to kick 7 goals 11.
First Goal - Hunter getting out the back.
BOG- Tobias McLean.

bornadog
14-06-2018, 09:58 AM
Your disdain for Wallis knows no bounds Mantis!! Can’t put Wally in their category for goal kicking! Very solid from 0-40.

Agree, Wallis maynot be a long kick, but he is pretty accurate.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 10:04 AM
Your disdain for Wallis knows no bounds Mantis!! Can’t put Wally in their category for goal kicking! Very solid from 0-40.



Calm your farm!

Wallis is a very solid kick for goal from close range, one of our better ones in fact, but I'm not placing money on him from 30m with a wet ball.

Bulldog4life
14-06-2018, 10:14 AM
Dogs by 17 points
First Goal - McLean.
BOG- Bont.

Greystache
14-06-2018, 10:17 AM
How many of those will be kicked by the trio of Wallis, Dahlhaus & Hunter?

Hunter would make the distance but miss. Wallis is one of our better kicks for goal, anything up to 40m I'm pretty happy for him to have ball in hand. Dahlhaus certainly, Honeychurch and Gowers also. Daniel is one I'd expect to fall short these days despite showing previously he can comfortably kick 50m.

Fortunately all of these players will play forward tonight for significant minutes. We really miss Smith, Dickson, and probably Picken's ability to convert simple shots.

bornadog
14-06-2018, 10:25 AM
Dogs by 4 points

BOG: Macrae

First goal: Honeychurch

The Pie Man
14-06-2018, 04:33 PM
SA Woofers - how’s it looking in Radelaide? Radar suggests some heavy showers on the way, but not much behind that initial front.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 06:02 PM
Dogs by 1point

BOG: Macrae

1st Goal: Schache

HOSE B ROMERO
14-06-2018, 06:23 PM
Ever the optimist, i'm predicting port by 47. points

Dal to kick our first to which a swarm of team mates run up, pat him on the bum and ruffle his hair. Unfortunately it's at the 4 minute mark of the third quarter and we're 57 points down.

Dal will be bog.

Remi Moses
14-06-2018, 06:34 PM
Port by 36
BOG Macrae
1st goal Dahlhaus 21 min into the second
We’ll kick 3 12

Twodogs
14-06-2018, 06:39 PM
Ever the optimist, i'm predicting port by 47. points

Dal to kick our first to which a swarm of team mates run up, pat him on the bum and ruffle his hair. Unfortunately it's at the 4 minute mark of the third quarter and we're 57 points down.

Dal will be bog.

So you are saying there will be a fightback? We should bring Paul Hudson on to kick a couple of meaningless cheapies in the last quarter.

ratsmac
14-06-2018, 06:39 PM
Dogs by 42. The bye has magically fixed us. We were broken.
First goal - Schache to get the ball rolling
BOG - The Bont, back to his best.

LostDoggy
14-06-2018, 07:18 PM
Dogs by 1
BOG: Wallis
1st Goal: Schache
Our Score: 8.11

whythelongface
14-06-2018, 07:53 PM
How was that a free against McLean? Joke

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 07:54 PM
Good endeavour early.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 07:58 PM
Skills putrid.

AndrewP6
14-06-2018, 08:00 PM
I see now why Biggs has been missing from the side.

whythelongface
14-06-2018, 08:00 PM
Biggs what has happened to him?

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:01 PM
If we are going to execute skills so poorly, forget it, we're stuffed.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:01 PM
Biggs what has happened to him?

Awful turnover.

GVGjr
14-06-2018, 08:03 PM
Need to lift, we can't let them get off to a flyer.

ledge
14-06-2018, 08:03 PM
We have no run at all. Biggs has hurt as bigtime early.
I feel sorry for our forwards.
If we had any run Gowers would be extremely dangerous.

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:04 PM
We are going to get trounced here.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:05 PM
We are just a nothing team right now. Bereft of purpose and any semblance of skill and commitment to a common cause.

ledge
14-06-2018, 08:05 PM
This could be a massive hiding we don't look like scoring at all !

Mantis
14-06-2018, 08:06 PM
If Webb was any softer he'd be a pillow.

ledge
14-06-2018, 08:06 PM
I'm embarrassed and it's only 10 minutes in.

Doc26
14-06-2018, 08:07 PM
We’re playing with no recognisable game plan. We’re all over the place.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:09 PM
Do something Dogs!

Mantis
14-06-2018, 08:09 PM
Used our 2 weeks off well it seems & have rectified the issues we had pre-bye.. so nice the players *!*!*!*!ed off to Byron Bay, Qld and Fiji to get some much needed rest.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:10 PM
Biggs is just phoning it in.

Grantysghost
14-06-2018, 08:10 PM
Need to get some overlap off half back....and put some pressure on. Can't believe how flat they look.

chef
14-06-2018, 08:12 PM
Game over already.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:12 PM
Are we trying?

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:13 PM
We are disgraceful right now!

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:14 PM
Biggs BOG for Port

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:14 PM
When does the blowtorch get applied to Johannisen?

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:15 PM
When does the blowtorch get applied to Johannisen?

By blowtorch, you mean traded? Then about 4 months.

DOG GOD
14-06-2018, 08:15 PM
First week back from Europe....I think I’ll get back on the plane.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 08:15 PM
We have no leaders, our players seem ignorant to how 2018 needs to be played, we cannot set up a ground for shit, and our coaching team has gone up its own arsehole.

We are soft, and disinterested. There cannot be a bigger insult to a team of professional sportsmen who play a contact sport to be called soft and disinterested.

Grantysghost
14-06-2018, 08:16 PM
You know it's bad when the commentators are doing the post mortem at the 20 minute mark of the first. Space around stoppages is insane.

Bullies
14-06-2018, 08:16 PM
We might not score a goal

DOG GOD
14-06-2018, 08:18 PM
Can we pull out the white flag and get an early flight home ?

ledge
14-06-2018, 08:18 PM
Somethings not right and I mean off field , you can't have no fight like this if your all in.

Rocket Science
14-06-2018, 08:18 PM
I'm done with Dahlhaus. He's Eagleton without the kicking.

Thanks for your service. Time to go.

AndrewP6
14-06-2018, 08:18 PM
You know it's bad when the commentators are doing the post mortem at the 20 minute mark of the first. Space around stoppages is insane.

I thought it was game over ten minutes in.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 08:19 PM
Our structure is non-existent... it's a diabolical mess!

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:19 PM
This is terminal. We are as inept as we ever were under McCartney or Rohde.
Full Review front and back of house.

Grantysghost
14-06-2018, 08:19 PM
I can't recall this many goalless quarters in a season.

DOG GOD
14-06-2018, 08:20 PM
We should be 10 goals down at qtr time lol

The Bulldogs Bite
14-06-2018, 08:20 PM
Disgraceful.

I won’t be going to any more games this year.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:21 PM
We might not score a goal

You just might be right Bullies. I hope we can but at the moment we do not look like doing anything.

Where has the Bulldog spirit gone. We are not living up to our motto at 'Cede Nullis'.

Remi Moses
14-06-2018, 08:21 PM
The going gets tough hey
Putrid putrid putrid

Mantis
14-06-2018, 08:21 PM
By blowtorch, you mean traded? Then about 4 months.

He's 1/2 through year 1 of a massive 5 year contract.. he ain't going anywhere.. plus he's a leader! :eek:

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:22 PM
It's now a crisis. Plain and simple.

I think it was Nicky in Donnie Brasco who said 'if we don't start earning, someone's gunna get whacked'. - That's where we are at.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:22 PM
I'm flying down to Melbourne with my 5 yr old son to take him to his first Doggies game against North next weekend... already regretting it.

Although some synergy...my first Doggies game was at Waverley against demons in 1984 seeing us get monstered by 78 points.

comrade
14-06-2018, 08:23 PM
Biggs finally gets another crack at it and he serves that up?

JJ is just taking the piss

Boyd obviously knows he can’t mark with two hands so has given up on it all together and now just sticks one hand up for a token effort.

I could go in.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:24 PM
He's 1/2 through year 1 of a massive 5 year contract.. he ain't going anywhere.. plus he's a leader! :eek:

I'm hoping we are using Jedi Mind control that another club will think he's worth the trade if they just put him back off a half back flank. Don't GCS need a bigger name player to be relevant to the local media...

Doc26
14-06-2018, 08:24 PM
Add poor positioning to our bad disposal. Caleb Daniel looks completely lost along with most. No use bringing any intent when there is simply no structure in place. Our showing is akin to watching a group of Auskickers going at it for the first time.

ledge
14-06-2018, 08:25 PM
Is Wallis playing ? What's happened to Bont and Macrae ?
Gowers and Richards are the only ones I see trying something.

chef
14-06-2018, 08:25 PM
Tom Campbell must sit at home and shake his head seeing Boyd as our number 1 ruck.

ledge
14-06-2018, 08:26 PM
I'm hoping Port had the wind that quarter.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:28 PM
Good play Richards

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:29 PM
Ed Richards has been a beacon this season.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:31 PM
Ed Richards has been a beacon this season.

And the youngest most weeks #leader

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:32 PM
And the youngest most weeks #leader

He looks so assured and he's so good in the contest. Great pick up.

And on cue.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:33 PM
Bont!

AndrewP6
14-06-2018, 08:34 PM
What an indictment on the club that an 18 year old is one of the few shining lights.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:34 PM
He looks so assured and he's so good in the contest. Great pick up.

And on cue.

I wish we had 12 of him right now. Stringer going helped deliver him, that's a double win!

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:37 PM
Happy to delist Biggs now. A great month in 2016. *!*!*!*! all since.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Bont and Richards really good.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Honeychurch can get delisted too. For *!*!*!*! sake.

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Is... Is... One of our leaders actually leading?

lemmon
14-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Can't be missing those...

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:38 PM
How have woofers rated Crozier's game?

jeemak
14-06-2018, 08:38 PM
Honeychurch FFS. How can you miss that.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:40 PM
Wood I think is trying.

lemmon
14-06-2018, 08:41 PM
A little red headed jet

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:41 PM
How have woofers rated Crozier's game?

I think he's going ok. Certainly hasn't been our worst.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:41 PM
Richards 4 votes so far.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 08:42 PM
Richards is a gun.

Fancy saying that wasn't a free kick, defender didn't have any intention of going for the footy, got a hand at shoulder height and held both sides.

comrade
14-06-2018, 08:42 PM
Richards is so obviously a future leader.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:42 PM
Our best running defender tonight, and our best forward. And 18yo. Stand up the rest of you.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:45 PM
Williams getting into it. We are putting pressure on them now which is what we need to do.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 08:46 PM
Can't wait for our players to grow out of this terrible goal kicking.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:46 PM
Terrible kick Webb. Another chance gone like Honeychurch. Goalkicking NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY AT TRAINING!

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:46 PM
I don't get Webb. His first year he looked a prospect. He is just a shadow of a player now.

GVGjr
14-06-2018, 08:47 PM
How have woofers rated Crozier's game?

Think it's been good. I don't mind him


Honeychurch FFS. How can you miss that.

He's not good enough to miss goals like that.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:48 PM
We are cracking in! That's what we want to see.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:48 PM
Wood's ripped his hammy badly.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:49 PM
Wood Hammy? I hope not.

Sedat
14-06-2018, 08:49 PM
Best (worst) stat ever - Boyd 6 contested marks in the 2016 GF and only 11 in the 18 months since then

lemmon
14-06-2018, 08:49 PM
That's a bad hammy

SlimPickens
14-06-2018, 08:49 PM
Wood's ripped his hammy badly.

That’s a nasty one

whythelongface
14-06-2018, 08:49 PM
Footy gods are shining upon us once again.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:51 PM
What is going on with JJ.. has Richards open. .kicks to a 3 on 1 instead. .port downfield and goal.. .

whythelongface
14-06-2018, 08:53 PM
What is going on with JJ.. has Richards open. .kicks to a 3 on 1 instead. .port downfield and goal.. .

Just such a poor option. Decision making is just terrible.

Richards what a gem.

EasternWest
14-06-2018, 08:53 PM
Holy shit little Red. What a beauty.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 08:54 PM
Richards is a gun! What a bloody relief we have him.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:54 PM
Richards Vs Port Adelaide

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 08:54 PM
What a goal Ed! Showing the most up forward right now.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 08:54 PM
Ed.... well done.. hold your head up.

comrade
14-06-2018, 08:54 PM
Damn, kid deserves another nomination.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 08:54 PM
For shits and giggles.. The boy can play!

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 08:56 PM
Richards signed that 2 year extension about a month too early!

Sedat
14-06-2018, 08:57 PM
Our trade week last year was George Costanza unemployed having dinner with his parents, and Richards was Costanza accidentally bumping into the hand model agency rep.

ledge
14-06-2018, 09:00 PM
Well we just let that go with a shit goal on the siren .

Doc26
14-06-2018, 09:00 PM
Caleb has fallen off the face of the earth. He must find something in second half.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:00 PM
Who is on Robbie Gray? How can the plan be to give him that much space? I mean who is in charge of not letting him have all of the space in the world?

It's not hard, it's not hard at all. It's a sign of a dysfunctional leadership structure and players thinking about themselves.

It really pisses me off.

Grantysghost
14-06-2018, 09:03 PM
How did Ed not go top ten? Much better quarter.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:05 PM
Trivia: When did a Western Bulldog (& which) player last kick 3 goals in a quarter? (I don't know)

G-Mo77
14-06-2018, 09:06 PM
Is there much point in watching. I switched it off 10 minutes in and flicked it back on at the end of the half. Call it a night?

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 09:07 PM
This will be another pumping. We are getting nothing from so many of our senior players. Hunter, Walis, Dahlhaus, JJ.
Boyd is a liability as a ruck. Trengove and Crozier as list additions are just flat out a regressive move. And Biggs. I just don't understand what has happened. He is lost.

Bullies
14-06-2018, 09:08 PM
Roarke Smith - seriously the experiment is over.

Robbie Gray thinks all his Xmas' have come at once

Doc26
14-06-2018, 09:08 PM
Is there much point in watching. I switched it off 10 minutes in and flicked it back on at the end of the half. Call it a night?

Press red for Ed. Stick with it.

G-Mo77
14-06-2018, 09:09 PM
Press red for Ed. Stick with it.

5 am start mate so I'm done. I'll watch Ed highlights when I knock off work tomorrow. Night all.

The Bulldogs Bite
14-06-2018, 09:11 PM
Would we look atvtrading Daniel?

Rocket Science
14-06-2018, 09:12 PM
Sterling quarter from Richards, youngest bloke on the park.

We've fired our shot, watch us get buried now.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:12 PM
2nd Quarter:

Port: 3.1
Richards: 3.0
Dogs: 1.4

kruder
14-06-2018, 09:12 PM
After a solid quarter how predictable that they would snag a late one! Can anyone remember a game where we finished with 4 fit players on the bench?

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:13 PM
Start of the 3rd critical if we are any chance.

kruder
14-06-2018, 09:13 PM
Would we look atvtrading Daniel?

Half the list is up for grabs make no mistake.

Bullies
14-06-2018, 09:15 PM
Would we look atvtrading Daniel? Would anyone want him?

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:15 PM
This will be another pumping. We are getting nothing from so many of our senior players. Hunter, Walis, Dahlhaus, JJ.
Boyd is a liability as a ruck. Trengove and Crozier as list additions are just flat out a regressive move. And Biggs. I just don't understand what has happened. He is lost.

Crozier been ok tonight.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:15 PM
Would anyone want him?

But he is a good user of the footy. Something we need.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:18 PM
They just showed Gray's heat map, and basically every touch he's had is forward of centre and in the corridor. He's had 20 touches and six clearances.

I'm still infuriated.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:19 PM
They just showed Gray's heat map, and basically every touch he's had is forward of centre and in the corridor. He's had 20 touches and six clearances.

I'm still infuriated.

Pace yourself, there's another half of it coming.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 09:20 PM
They just showed Gray's heat map, and basically every touch he's had is forward of centre and in the corridor. He's had 20 touches and six clearances.

I'm still infuriated.

No respect given to him it all.. like why would we?

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:20 PM
Wallis! Goal! Do you really want to give him away? Great start to the 3rd.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:21 PM
Good mark from Wallis. Surprised to say that by far the worst example of defending of the night has been from Howard of Port Adelaide. That was weaker than piss weak.

Remi Moses
14-06-2018, 09:23 PM
Twice Johanissen has just bombed forward with hit up options
Totally unacceptable from a senior player and dumb .
Bevo’s love for Roarke Smith must end . Richards is outstanding
Better effort that quarter , but I still fear a hammering .

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:23 PM
How the *!*!*!*! can that be holding the ball against Dahlhaus then. Jesus.

P.S. I can become plenty more furiated BT!

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:24 PM
Need the next few to really start to rattle them.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:28 PM
That was really dumb play from Williams coming off the half backline then, shouldn't have given the ball off with an extremely risky and blind handball and it's cost us.

He's sometimes much too clever for himself. His goal.

kruder
14-06-2018, 09:28 PM
Caleb Daniel wow what a momentum changer. Josh is by himself 45m out and refused to kick it to him then didn't get any body on Polack.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:29 PM
JJ seriously out of form.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:30 PM
Great, now Jacko's out for the remainder of the game! Yay!

SlimPickens
14-06-2018, 09:30 PM
Another soft tissue injury.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:30 PM
Caleb Daniel wow what a momentum changer. Josh is by himself 45m out and refused to kick it to him then didn't get any body on Polack.

He had two chances to kick to the same spot as players moved through there.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 09:30 PM
Great, now Jacko's out for the remainder of the game! Yay!

The mini-holiday has worked well.

lemmon
14-06-2018, 09:31 PM
Half the list is up for grabs make no mistake.

I'd look at the coaching staff first.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 09:31 PM
Another soft tissue injury.

Surprised?

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:31 PM
The trashing is back on.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:31 PM
Another soft tissue injury.

I think the players just probably need to get some more games under their belts and it will sort itself out just like the goal kicking. I mean it will get much much worse in the interim, but eventually it will get better.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:34 PM
We can't play 4 quarters. Bring 2bd quarter for the full game and we could win.

lemmon
14-06-2018, 09:35 PM
Nice hands Shack

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:35 PM
A contested Mark I50!

Like seeing a dodo.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:36 PM
Good connection between Webb and Schache then, the latter with a really strong mark and nice finish.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:36 PM
Nice mark Schache and goal. Need to do that more often.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:38 PM
Wally looking good up forward.

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:38 PM
Wallis couldn't get a game... I guess he's pushing his value up as a free agent.

kruder
14-06-2018, 09:39 PM
Nice réponse boys we need to dig in. Can anyone work out how Honey made it to AFL footy?

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:40 PM
Nice réponse boys we need to dig in. Can anyone work out how Honey made it to AFL footy?

I can't work out why we forced Cloke into ripping up his contract, paying him out for nothing, to retain him even though we were happy to let him go at the end of the trade period...

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:40 PM
Nice réponse boys we need to dig in. Can anyone work out how Honey made it to AFL footy?

Tries hard Honey but yeah not so good at the top level. VFL he would be fine like Webb.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:43 PM
How would we rate Zaine's game. I think he has been ok. Some good moments.

We look awful once again.

lemmon
14-06-2018, 09:44 PM
Dixon's given Trengrove an absolute bath tonight.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 09:44 PM
Their goals just come so easily whereas we need to work our butts off!

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:45 PM
It seems that just about every time the ball has gone forward to the goal square area Port have players running harder towards their goal than we have running back in defence. That troubles me.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:46 PM
It seems that just about every time the ball has gone forward to the goal square area Port have players running harder towards their goal than we have running back in defence. That troubles me.

Just happened :( as you say jeemak

bulldogtragic
14-06-2018, 09:47 PM
Gowers just can't get close to a set shot. Surely there's another role for him afl or VFL, since kicking set shots is kind of a big deal for a forward.

kruder
14-06-2018, 09:47 PM
I can't work out why we forced Cloke into ripping up his contract, paying him out for nothing, to retain him even though we were happy to let him go at the end of the trade period...

Yep Amazing. The next amazing thing is how the hell did we offer Trengove a 3 year deal? He was cooked at Port playing seconds and we go and give him 1.2-1.4M over 3? Disgraceful.

SlimPickens
14-06-2018, 09:48 PM
Plenty of positives tonight from a young group. This isn’t a sarcastic post

The Bulldogs Bite
14-06-2018, 09:51 PM
Schache in the ruck now.... FFS

Topdog
14-06-2018, 09:51 PM
Too many goals from the goal square for my liking

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 09:52 PM
Crozier been ok tonight.

He has. And yet still has looked flaky.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:53 PM
Plenty of positives tonight from a young group. This isn’t a sarcastic post

Yep, all of the positives have come from the younger players on the team.

We desperately need to get one or two mature hard running burst players with big bodies into the side. We just plod along, and seem too easily stopped.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:54 PM
He has. And yet still has looked flaky.

Hard for a defender not to look flaky with the way they've been able to carry the ball forward.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 09:55 PM
Yep, all of the positives have come from the younger players on the team.

We desperately need to get one or two mature hard running burst players with big bodies into the side. We just plod along, and seem too easily stopped.

Why would anyone want to come to us? We couldn't attract players off the back of a flag??

lemmon
14-06-2018, 09:56 PM
We have 10 players with less than 10 disposals including Hunter, Biggs, Daniel and Honeychurch.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 09:58 PM
Has Bont just done a knee??

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 09:58 PM
Bont going off. Just great :mad:

jeemak
14-06-2018, 09:59 PM
Why would anyone want to come to us? We couldn't attract players off the back of a flag??

Given what we know about our list management and mindset at the time, I'm not confident we did a lot of hunting outside of Hurley and Cloke.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 09:59 PM
Please don't send Bont back on..

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:00 PM
Has Bont just done a knee??

Think a simple hyper extension..........that we'll find out is an ACL strain after putting him back on the ground.

Mantis
14-06-2018, 10:01 PM
We have 10 players with less than 10 disposals including Hunter, Biggs, Daniel and Honeychurch.

Webb too. He just can't find the ball at this level.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 10:01 PM
Please don't send Bont back on..

And his back on

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:04 PM
That's a fabulous finish from Gowers. See the difference in intent between how he's kicked that and the three step build up he has on his set shots.

Might be something in that for him.

How the bloody hell wasn't that a chopping the arms free or interference to Trengove then? If he was a forward other than Tom Boyd it would be a free any day of the week.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 10:04 PM
Given what we know about our list management and mindset at the time, I'm not confident we did a lot of hunting outside of Hurley and Cloke.

Further evidence we are lacking back house leadership to see the need for a full and honest review of our club

lemmon
14-06-2018, 10:06 PM
No idea how we're this close. This should be 15 goals on the stats

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 10:07 PM
We are scoring that's something but the damage has been done (ie: the 1st quarter).

lemmon
14-06-2018, 10:10 PM
We'd be on world-record pace for missed tackles I'd have thought.

comrade
14-06-2018, 10:11 PM
Bont missed a wide open Boyd in the corridor and kicked it to an outnumber down the line.

Expect way better.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:12 PM
No idea how we're this close. This should be 15 goals on the stats

With two key players out for a half as well, you'd think Port would feel they've been a bit wasteful tonight.

Having said that, considering the team has been completely bereft of leadership aside from Bontempelli, I've been satisfied with how the team has fought it out.

Our first quarter was embarrassing and inexcusable, and we need to ask questions about how we could get our set up and attitude so disgracefully wrong.

Ten minutes on the countdown clock, hopefully we don't buckle completely.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 10:12 PM
The missed tackles are i think the main thing that just cuts deep. Just akmost says 'I just dont care'.

AndrewP6
14-06-2018, 10:16 PM
Gray outmarks us 1 on 4 in the goalsquare. Pitiful.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 10:17 PM
Richards to Lipinski. Great stuff!

Sedat
14-06-2018, 10:17 PM
I love seeing Caleb Daniel trying to spoil a marking contest in the defensive goal square #versatility

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 10:18 PM
Lippy gets it!

lemmon
14-06-2018, 10:18 PM
I hope Richards starts getting midfield minutes. The more we get the footy in his hands, the better we're going to be.

Grantysghost
14-06-2018, 10:18 PM
Dixon's given Trengrove an absolute bath tonight.

Been tough with the entries i think but yep been a tough return for Jackson .

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 10:18 PM
Webb is a lost cause.
I can't think of another player who had shown so much early promise, who has ended up going so far backward as he has done.
His tackling is worse than insipid.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 10:19 PM
Tackles 68-48 in their favour

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 10:20 PM
Tackles 68-48 in their favour

I'd love to see mistackle stats. . We'd own that stat. Like butter right now.

Sedat
14-06-2018, 10:21 PM
Webb is a lost cause.
I can't think of another player who had shown so much early promise, who has ended up going so far backward as he has done.
His tackling is worse than insipid.
Why do we keep bringing him in for 1 week and drop him instantaneously? Either we should have backed him in for a 4 week block or we shouldn't play him at all.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:21 PM
I'm surprised the commentators are getting so excited about Port Adelaide here.

We've been smashed by injuries coming into the game and have played two key players down for half of it. They're carrying on as if they're showing up a quality team.

ledge
14-06-2018, 10:21 PM
We have no hunger and no hardness we just try and get sides on the rebound , won't happen if you aren't tackling and just waiting for a rebound.

Cyberdoggie
14-06-2018, 10:23 PM
Why do we keep bringing him in for 1 week and drop him instantaneously? Either we should have backed him in for a 4 week block or we shouldn't play him at all.

He has played 24 games. How many more does he need?

Too many guys that aren't built for AFL footy and don't have the hunger in that side, it's just too unbalanced.

Sedat
14-06-2018, 10:26 PM
He has played 24 games. How many more does he need?

Too many guys that aren't built for AFL footy and don't have the hunger in that side, it's just too unbalanced.
Don't disagree. So why bring him this week or any of the other few times this year for one-off games? Would rarher pump midfield minites into Richards and Williams- at least there will be a future return on that investment

kruder
14-06-2018, 10:30 PM
Can you remember a player that has his kicks smothered more than Honey? Unbelievable

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:30 PM
Can you remember a player that has his kicks smothered more than Honey? Unbelievable

I almost smothered it from Fairfield.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
14-06-2018, 10:33 PM
Honeychurch, Webb, Smith... no more. Just not even close to required standard.
JJ, Boyd, Hunter.. not anywhere near it.
We should've drawn the line on JJ mid year last season and let him walk.
He held us to ransom and we blinked. We should've said nope see you later if you are going to put yourself before the team then goodbye, instead we made him a part of our leadership.

lemmon
14-06-2018, 10:33 PM
He has played 24 games. How many more does he need?

Too many guys that aren't built for AFL footy and don't have the hunger in that side, it's just too unbalanced.

It's a good point, not sure how many of the 22 you'd call absolutely obsessed competitors in the Matt Boyd mould.

It's a team full of the pretty easy-going, larrikin sort.

The Bulldogs Bite
14-06-2018, 10:33 PM
How the hell does Honeychurch get games? Is he the best bloke anyone has ever known? Does he have something on Beveridge? He’s honestly one of the worst players at AFL level I have ever seen and I just can’t understand how we justify playing him.

Dry Rot
14-06-2018, 10:34 PM
What is Macrae's injury?

kruder
14-06-2018, 10:36 PM
What is Macrae's injury?

Id suggest hammy

Dry Rot
14-06-2018, 10:41 PM
Id suggest hammy

Ok thanks.

Bugger.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:41 PM
Here's the list of outs through injury:

Morris, Smith, Dickson, Liberatore, Picken, Adams, Suckling, Redpath and Naughton. Only two of those nine players look assured of a positive AFL future, in Suckling and Naughton with the former potentially only having one more year in him.

Essentially what I'm getting at, is what we've seen tonight is largely what we'll have for a couple of years. Sure, some players out of the team who are out of form can come back in to replace the poor performers from tonight, but it won't make any difference.

Hitting the draft is one thing. Getting some mature hard bodied pace from somewhere and into the midfield is important. We, apart from Gowers, don't have anyone who can provide burst, and he's still only finding his feet at the level and plays forward.

Sedat
14-06-2018, 10:56 PM
Here's the list of outs through injury:

Morris, Smith, Dickson, Liberatore, Picken, Adams, Suckling, Redpath and Naughton. Only two of those nine players look assured of a positive AFL future, in Suckling and Naughton with the former potentially only having one more year in him..
Libba has been a critial loss and is a non-negotiable to be retained next year.

bornadog
14-06-2018, 10:56 PM
Some real shocking games tonight from players you would expect could do better. Besides Smith, Honeychurch, Webb who are barely VFL level, guys like Wallis, Daniel, Mclean, JJ, Hunter, Biggs, were useless.

I thought Boyd did pretty well in the ruck with 31 hitouts, but needs to do more around the ground. Despite what some think of Crozier on this forum, he played very well, Schache is starting to hit his straps and Bonti is a class above everyone.

Injuries really cruelled us and would have made a big difference in the 3rd quarter when we got to within 3 goals, and the Bont snapped to miss. After that, with lack of rotations and a midfield killed again it was all over.

The first quarter didn't help at all and we were playing catchup throughout the match. Biggs alone contributed 3 goals to Port with his turnovers.

jeemak
14-06-2018, 10:58 PM
Libba has been a critial loss and is a non-negotiable to be retained next year.

Retain him? Absolutely. Assured of a positive AFL future? Not so sure, I fear for his ability to not do innocuous ACL’s.

Sedat
14-06-2018, 11:04 PM
Injuries really cruelled us and would have made a big difference in the 3rd quarter when we got to within 3 goals, and the Bont snapped to miss. After that, with lack of rotations and a midfield killed again it was all over.
As an old boss once said to me "excuses are boring". Injuries are not bad luck when they occur year after year. Whatever the metrics that our fitness & conditiining staff are measured against, they are failing miserably and need to be reviewed to within an inch of their lives and replaced if necessary.

Tired of the crippling injury list. That dept is not performing, plain and simple.

macca
14-06-2018, 11:04 PM
Webb is a lost cause.
I can't think of another player who had shown so much early promise, who has ended up going so far backward as he has done.
His tackling is worse than insipid.

How in the world did he manage to kick the ball from the centre square and turn over to port players at centre half forward? Should we had traded or delisted him last year?

bornadog
14-06-2018, 11:13 PM
As an old boss once said to me "excuses are boring". Injuries are not bad luck when they occur year after year. Whatever the metrics that our fitness & conditiining staff are measured against, they are failing miserably and need to be reviewed to within an inch of their lives and replaced if necessary.

Tired of the crippling injury list. That dept is not performing, plain and simple.

I was talking about the injuries during the game which left us with less rotations which kills you in the last quarter.

As far as fitness staff are concerned, not sure what they can do. Most of our injuries have been ACLs, knee, ankle. Wood has been prone to get Hammies all his career, and Macrae copped one in 2016, and Dicksons are new.

SonofScray
14-06-2018, 11:17 PM
That was a mixed bag. 80% of the bag is awful, 20% was anywhere from average to very good.

Ed was clearly the highlight with his 3 goals. The only player for us who looked capable at every contest, except for the Bont. I was very negative on Twitter, but one thing I won't question is the effort across the board. I do not believe that is the problem. Just about everything else is. But not effort.

Biggs was atrocious. Webb very poor. Honeychurch terrible.
Injuries to Macrae, McLean and Wood and for a despairing moment, Bont, were deflating, stressful.
1st qtr was unpleasant, looked ok defensively for 5 minutes. The game was over in the next 10. Disgusting.

Goals cure all ailments. My fury was doused by the goals kicked by Wallis, Shache & Richards. I feel like there might actually be more than 1 goal a quarter in the squad now. Get the all in the hands of these guys more often, deeper inside 50 please.

Mostly though, I can't help but feel someone needs to be sacked.

Sedat
14-06-2018, 11:44 PM
As far as fitness staff are concerned, not sure what they can do. Most of our injuries have been ACLs, knee, ankle. Wood has been prone to get Hammies all his career, and Macrae copped one in 2016, and Dicksons are new.
Sorry BAD but that doesn't fly with me. We have recurring injuries and multiple players spending almost their entire time in rehab. We are either not preparing the players adequately for the rigours of our game plan or the players are taking short cuts (highly unlikely). It needs to be independently reviewed without fear or favour - I don't want to hear BS like "we are just having bad luck with injuries" when teams like Richmond, Brisbane and Norf have almost injury-free squads.

We haven't had a clear run at it with injuries for years, certainly the entire time Chris Bell has been in charge. We can either cross our fingers and hope to not die next year, or we can get proactive and have a deep and in-depth look at the dept.

Eastdog
14-06-2018, 11:49 PM
Disappointing night watching from home.

The game summed up:

1st quarter - awful and where it was lost
2nd quarter - very good
3rd quarter - competed well but they were equal to it and maintained control
4th quarter - much the same as the 3rd.

Ed Richards was was great as have all our kids this Naughton, English, Lipinski. Bont had an impact in a tough year for him and I thought Crozier was good. How did woofers rate Cordy's game tonight? Cordy certainly not the worst tonight like Crozier. Our midfield certainly has been cut thin now. Jack Macrae going out who has been solid in there really hurts also Wood, Boyd as well with injuries. Absolutely no luck here.

Honeychurch, Webb cannot kick and I think at seasons end we need to make some big decisions on them and a few others. JJ very down on form. Wallis at least took some marks up forward and kicked 2 goals. Do we retain Wally? Gowers 1.2 wasn't accurate tonight but been a shining light this year up forward.

Been a very tough year and it doesn't get any easier the next few weeks back at home but I will still be going to the games supporting the Dogs but more relaxed in that our season is done. One good thing is that the draft is strong this year.

MrMahatma
14-06-2018, 11:54 PM
Sorry BAD but that doesn't fly with me. We have recurring injuries and multiple players spending almost their entire time in rehab. We are either not preparing the players adequately for the rigours of our game plan or the players are taking short cuts (highly unlikely). It needs to be independently reviewed without fear or favour - I don't want to hear BS like "we are just having bad luck with injuries" when teams like Richmond, Brisbane and Norf have almost injury-free squads.

We haven't had a clear run at it with injuries for years, certainly the entire time Chris Bell has been in charge. We can either cross our fingers and hope to not die next year, or we can get proactive and have a deep and in-depth look at the dept.

How many matches have we lost this year to soft tissue injuries?

I reckon our team isn't fit enough or strong enough. But I don't think we're injured to preventable injuries more than anyone. Sounds far fetched scape goat stuff.

The reality is:

- our list lacks class and is bogged down by poor users. List management and recruitment are to blame here.
- we play guys out of position for no apparent reason. Coaches are to blame here.
- we fade in games. Age of best 22 is to blame here.

Injurys are far from our problem when our list has Honeychurch, Webb, and Smith on it.

Sedat
15-06-2018, 12:03 AM
How many matches have we lost this year to soft tissue injuries?

I reckon our team isn't fit enough or strong enough. But I don't think we're injured to preventable injuries more than anyone. Sounds far fetched scape goat stuff.

The reality is:

- our list lacks class and is bogged down by poor users. List management and recruitment are to blame here.
- we play guys out of position for no apparent reason. Coaches are to blame here.
- we fade in games. Age of best 22 is to blame here.

Injurys are far from our problem when our list has Honeychurch, Webb, and Smith on it.
Your 3 points are valid and the coaching dept end of season review is essential - presumably we've already reviewed recruiting and list management with Dal and JMac gone.

My take on injuries is not limited to 2018 - we've had a very poor run for a number of years. Some are unavoidable, many others not so. We can either not review it and give Chris Bell and his team end of year bonuses for a job well done, or we can review it. I would expect for a professional organisation striving to get better in all areas of operation that we would do the latter without any hesitation whatsoever.

G-Mo77
15-06-2018, 03:59 AM
Ended up sitting through the 2nd half. Meh, it's what I expected. Bunnkef down ladies and gents, we're in hell right now and will be he for years and years.

Bullies
15-06-2018, 08:04 AM
Yep Amazing. The next amazing thing is how the hell did we offer Trengove a 3 year deal? He was cooked at Port playing seconds and we go and give him 1.2-1.4M over 3? Disgraceful. How are Trengov's skills? they are deplorable. How could the club sit there and say we need him and to get him on a 3 year deal. Seriously. I said in a previous post at the beginning of the year that this guy can't play and Port said supporters said enjoy the ride.

Grantysghost
15-06-2018, 08:21 AM
How are Trengov's skills? they are deplorable. How could the club sit there and say we need him and to get him on a 3 year deal. Seriously. I said in a previous post at the beginning of the year that this guy can't play and Port said supporters said enjoy the ride.

He's a best and fairest winner at Port which suggests he can play.

craigsahibee
15-06-2018, 08:37 AM
Would we look atvtrading Daniel?

I would.

He is too easily coached against. Can find the footy ok but is limited with his output purely because of his size. I said early last year that he may be only a 70 - 80 game player for us. I was hoping I would be wrong, but sadly, I can see it happening.

Due to his deficiencies, I think we get a late 2nd rounder at the very best.

jeemak
15-06-2018, 08:51 AM
I would.

He is too easily coached against. Can find the footy ok but is limited with his output purely because of his size. I said early last year that he may be only a 70 - 80 game player for us. I was hoping I would be wrong, but sadly, I can see it happening.

Due to his deficiencies, I think we get a late 2nd rounder at the very best.

I think he's a cream player, who in a weaker side can't get on the end of it in the open and use his skills. He's still only young, though needs to get much stronger than what he currently is.

Bulldog4life
15-06-2018, 09:30 AM
I think he's a cream player, who in a weaker side can't get on the end of it in the open and use his skills. He's still only young, though needs to get much stronger than what he currently is.

Agree. When we are playing well you want Caleb in your team. Finding it difficult now like a lot of players.

bornadog
15-06-2018, 09:31 AM
Agree. When we are playing well you want Caleb in your team. Finding it difficult now like a lot of players.

Not only Daniel as you say. The issue is too few are doing all the work.

Ozza
15-06-2018, 09:59 AM
Some real shocking games tonight from players you would expect could do better. Besides Smith, Honeychurch, Webb who are barely VFL level, guys like Wallis, Daniel, Mclean, JJ, Hunter, Biggs, were useless.

.

Agree that Smith and Honey are not AFL level.
I also agree on Webb generally - but probably deserves some flack last night given he played much of the night with a broken thumb.
On the others, harsh on McLean who was on an off with his shoulder after he apparently dived at Robbie Gray's legs with it in the opening play. Bevo mentioned that they took some time to assess whether or not he should be out there at all after that.

I know I stick up for Wally a bit - but pretty tough to be playing as a deep forward most of the night when the side gets 40 inside 50's. The couple of times we kicked to him isolated, he did his bit and won the contest and converted.

bornadog
15-06-2018, 10:05 AM
Agree that Smith and Honey are not AFL level.
I also agree on Webb generally - but probably deserves some flack last night given he played much of the night with a broken thumb.
On the others, harsh on McLean who was on an off with his shoulder after he apparently dived at Robbie Gray's legs with it in the opening play. Bevo mentioned that they took some time to assess whether or not he should be out there at all after that.

I know I stick up for Wally a bit - but pretty tough to be playing as a deep forward most of the night when the side gets 40 inside 50's. The couple of times we kicked to him isolated, he did his bit and won the contest and converted.

At the time I wrote that didn't know Mclean was on and off - so fair enough.

Sedat
15-06-2018, 10:06 AM
I would.

He is too easily coached against. Can find the footy ok but is limited with his output purely because of his size. I said early last year that he may be only a 70 - 80 game player for us. I was hoping I would be wrong, but sadly, I can see it happening.

Due to his deficiencies, I think we get a late 2nd rounder at the very best.
Can we honestly afford to offload another mid and one of our best ball users and decision makers, when we are already threadbare in terms of midfield depth? He's not playing anywhere near like it but he's not the Lone Ranger.

Mantis
15-06-2018, 10:08 AM
I know I stick up for Wally a bit - but pretty tough to be playing as a deep forward most of the night when the side gets 40 inside 50's. The couple of times we kicked to him isolated, he did his bit and won the contest and converted.

Only a bit. ;)

I genuinely want Wallis to succeed, as he has good traits, but to be pigeon-holed as a FP isn't ideal. When he was in the midfield he just couldn't spread from the contest and is a bit of a one trick pony up forward.. I think he's up against it to continue with us beyond this year.

bornadog
15-06-2018, 10:15 AM
Only a bit. ;)

I genuinely want Wallis to succeed, as he has good traits, but to be pigeon-holed as a FP isn't ideal. When he was in the midfield he just couldn't spread from the contest and is a bit of a one trick pony up forward.. I think he's up against it to continue with us beyond this year.

I tend to agree and it is a worry. If his name wasn't Wallis, would we be as sympathetic towards him.

bornadog
15-06-2018, 10:17 AM
Can we honestly afford to offload another mid and one of our best ball users and decision makers, when we are already threadbare in terms of midfield depth? He's not playing anywhere near like it but he's not the Lone Ranger.

Having said that, 5 disposals for the game doesn't cut it at AFL level.

Mantis
15-06-2018, 10:21 AM
I tend to agree and it is a worry. If his name wasn't Wallis, would we be as sympathetic towards him.

I think we are sympathetic to all our players as we want them to succeed as we know that if they play well it will make us a better team, but no doubt the F/S players are held in higher regard due to the conenction they have to the club.

Jam Donuts
15-06-2018, 10:49 AM
Two years ago when we achieved the dream, I made the comment that with a couple of more pre-seasons in these youngsters they would bulk up get a lot fitter and be nearly unstoppable. They appear to have gone backwards in fitness and still look like schoolboys playing grown men, what the hell is the fitness staff doing? Questions need to be asked of this department and also the soft tissue problem, this may be attributed to lack of fitness as well, we can forget the talk of attracting big names to the club for a few years now, we will be lucky to attract an "A" grader through the door, and it will also be harder to hold onto to our talented young guys.

There appears to be issues concerning some players and the performances they are turning in, they simply cannot regress that much without off field issues. It all looks like it did in the past dismal decades, how can this be turned around?

kruder
15-06-2018, 11:50 AM
On the Fox coverage Brown was asking Johnson after the game why so many senior players had fallen off a cliff. He replied and said recently the senior and mid tier players had been seriously challenged by Bevo. He pointed out that Roughead may not have been happy with his FA comments in one of his pressers and said that after his recent performances he deserves to be playing VFL football.

Its going to be a very interesting off season at the Kennel. We need more points to get in West and kahamis in the draft while hanging on to our early first round selection which means a few premiership heroes will have to go. I'd expect a change in captaincy also.

bornadog
15-06-2018, 11:58 AM
I'd expect a change in captaincy also.

Your hatred of Wood has no bounds.

G-Mo77
15-06-2018, 12:14 PM
On the Fox coverage Brown was asking Johnson after the game why so many senior players had fallen off a cliff. He replied and said recently the senior and mid tier players had been seriously challenged by Bevo. He pointed out that Roughead may not have been happy with his FA comments in one of his pressers and said that after his recent performances he deserves to be playing VFL football.

Its going to be a very interesting off season at the Kennel. We need more points to get in West and kahamis in the draft while hanging on to our early first round selection which means a few premiership heroes will have to go. I'd expect a change in captaincy also.

I'm fine with Wood as Captain, I'm fine with Bont as VC and even Roughy does have some leadership traits and was comfortable to hear he's selected in the leadership group. The other members of the leadership group though? Surely the club could have stepped in and said something rather than let the tail wag the Dog. Redpath? JJ? Hunter? Give me a break!

LostDoggy
15-06-2018, 12:51 PM
Yep Amazing. The next amazing thing is how the hell did we offer Trengove a 3 year deal? He was cooked at Port playing seconds and we go and give him 1.2-1.4M over 3? Disgraceful.

I don't think the Trengove signing was a bad one. He cost us no picks, a $400-$450k annual salary is only average and 3 years is fair enough for a 27 year old (26 when signed). It's hard to offer an interstate player with a family much less.

Given where our list is at, a versatile big man with leadership skills and 150 games experiece makes a lot of sense.

He was a b&f and leadership credentialled player at Port and played 21 games there in 2016 and then 19 of 20 (missed 1 injured) in 2017 before being dropped for the last couple when it was clear he was out the door.

I reckon he's been good for us overall and will play quite a few games for us. The way this season is playing out, we'd probably like 2 of him, 1 would be kpd and the other rucking.

A few were highly critical of his game last night. Dixon was good, but given Port pumped the ball in so regularly, kicked 132 points and had Dixon as the prime spearhead, his output of 11 possessions, 2 marks (1 contested) and 3 goals was hardly the thrashing of Trengove (14 possessions, 7 marks) some are making out.

Mofra
15-06-2018, 01:13 PM
I don't think the Trengove signing was a bad one. He cost us no picks, a $400-$450k annual salary is only average and 3 years is fair enough for a 27 year old (26 when signed). It's hard to offer an interstate player with a family much less.

Given where our list is at, a versatile big man with leadership skills and 150 games experiece makes a lot of sense.

He was a b&f and leadership credentialled player at Port and played 21 games there in 2016 and then 19 of 20 (missed 1 injured) in 2017 before being dropped for the last couple when it was clear he was out the door.

I reckon he's been good for us overall and will play quite a few games for us. The way this season is playing out, we'd probably like 2 of him, 1 would be kpd and the other rucking.

A few were highly critical of his game last night. Dixon was good, but given Port pumped the ball in so regularly, kicked 132 points and had Dixon as the prime spearhead, his output of 11 possessions, 2 marks (1 contested) and 3 goals was hardly the thrashing of Trengove (14 possessions, 7 marks) some are making out.
I thought I was the only one who didn't think Trengove was too bad.

He's a guy who will do anything for his teammates and there is nobody else we could have played that would have done the same job.

I assume Naughton will be back in next week to provide some chop-out and JJ gets sent back to provide some rebound that we desperately need.