Preseason Training - 2019

[bornadog]

Year 1 - 4 players are back training. Post all your preseason stories, comments etc.

[SlimPickens]

Libba, Lippa, McLean, Picken all look in cracking nick from the pictures posted on twitter. Good to see

[Happy Days]

Libba, Lippa, McLean, Picken all look in cracking nick from the pictures posted on twitter. Good to see

Who cares about any of that - what we all want to know is who's come back really overweight or with shit tattoos.

[SlimPickens]

Didn't we trade him to Essendon last year?

[Rocket Science]

Putting this here just cos it feels good.

https://image.ibb.co/d7mcOV/libba.png (https://ibb.co/bRS6Hq)

I mean what good's a first week back on the track without crap tatts and black nail polish.

[Grantysghost]

Year 1 - 4 players are back training. Post all your preseason stories, comments etc.

So basically the entire side :)

[Twodogs]

So basically the entire side :)


Except for most of the premiership players*




*it still feels *!*!*!*!ing good to say that...

[AshMac]

Except for most of the premiership players*




*it still feels *!*!*!*!ing good to say that...

Always will 😉

[lemmon]

Ryan Davidson on Twitter reporting that skills and goal kicking (THANK THE LORD) seem to be a focus

[Dancin' Douggy]

Hallelujah

[Doc26]

Ryan Davidson on Twitter reporting that skills and goal kicking (THANK THE LORD) seem to be a focus

They’re both ground breaking areas to focus on.
Who would’ve thought.

Who knows, at this rate we might go right out on a limb and focus on performance and rehabilitation.

Hopefully the other Clubs don’t catch on.

[bornadog]

Picko training early with the 1-4 players

https://scontent.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45568522_10156717680232487_7113783147300388864_n.jpg?_nc_cat =109&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel2-1.fna&oh=a6dcddb4a8b13906b7d6d386c885c126&oe=5C72E780

[bornadog]

This bloke will be a beast in 2019

https://scontent.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45680330_10156721810862487_6852729906858557440_o.jpg?_nc_cat =105&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel2-1.fna&oh=94dd8f97f3fd534b05c4e28dd818053d&oe=5C834BAB

[Eastdog]

Ryan Davidson on Twitter reporting that skills and goal kicking (THANK THE LORD) seem to be a focus

Great to hear Lemmon. They are areas we need focus on.

[westdog54]

This bloke will be a beast in 2019

https://scontent.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45680330_10156721810862487_6852729906858557440_o.jpg?_nc_cat =105&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel2-1.fna&oh=94dd8f97f3fd534b05c4e28dd818053d&oe=5C834BAB

Yikes. Massive. Adams will be well and truly covered.

[GVGjr]

Yikes. Massive. Adams will be well and truly covered.

Once he builds his tank and improves his kicking a bit he will be quite a player for us.
Both he and Richards have the ability to become great players

[AshMac]

This bloke will be a beast in 2019

https://scontent.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45680330_10156721810862487_6852729906858557440_o.jpg?_nc_cat =105&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel2-1.fna&oh=94dd8f97f3fd534b05c4e28dd818053d&oe=5C834BAB


Gee he has put on some bulk! Cant wait to see him next year.

Also Bornadog - how do you copy pictures into your post? I cant for the life of me figure it out on my phone or laptop...

[bulldogtragic]

Gee he has put on some bulk! Cant wait to see him next year.

Also Bornadog - how do you copy pictures into your post? I cant for the life of me figure it out on my phone or laptop...

https://www.woof.net.au/forum/showthread.php?374-How-To-Post-Pictures

[bornadog]

Gee he has put on some bulk! Cant wait to see him next year.

Also Bornadog - how do you copy pictures into your post? I cant for the life of me figure it out on my phone or laptop...

I just right click on a picture, copy image, and paste.

[bornadog]

Old hands have pups pumped (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-11-09/old-hands-have-pups-pumped)


The early return to pre-season training of Liam Picken and Tom Liberatore has the Western Bulldogs' crop of exciting young talent inspired, key defender Aaron Naughton says.

The crucial playmaking pair has been notable on the track this week, returning with the first-to-fourth-year players despite not being required on duty until November 19.

Picken failed to play a senior game this season after suffering a heavy concussion in the JLT Community Series in March, while Liberatore ruptured his ACL for the second time in round one of the season proper.

Speaking after training on Friday, Naughton said he and his fellow youngsters were buoyed by having such respected teammates on the track so early into their 2019 preparations.

"Picko and Libba are good characters and bring a lot of energy to the group, so it's really good to have some leadership around us young boys," Naughton told AFL.com.au.

"They seem like quiet blokes, but in the inner sanctum they're quite vocal.
"They both pretty much missed the whole of last season, so to have them back for week one of training is very exciting for us.

"They're both really good players and been around the club for so long. Hopefully I get the opportunity to play alongside them more often, because they bring so much to the team."

Picken, who did some training throughout the year during his recovery from his head knock, looked sharp on the track, while Liberatore showed no signs of his injury as he completed a series of ball and goal-kicking drills.

Fifth-year players Toby McLean, Zaine Cordy, Caleb Daniel and Roarke Smith were not required back at the Club until later in the month, but have also been training strongly.













(http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2018-11-07/the-boys-are-back)

[Eastdog]

Really great to hear our experienced players hitting the track early. They are motivated :)

[Rocket Science]

Really great to hear our experienced players hitting the track early. They are #motovated :)

Oh come now.

FIXED.

[Rocket Science]

This bloke will be a beast in 2019

https://scontent.fmel2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45680330_10156721810862487_6852729906858557440_o.jpg?_nc_cat =105&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel2-1.fna&oh=94dd8f97f3fd534b05c4e28dd818053d&oe=5C834BAB

I'm gonna say it and risk plonking the cart before the horse, but ... I wouldn't be surprised if Naughton makes himself part of the 'All-Australian' conversation, sooner rather than later.

[Eastdog]

Oh come now.

FIXED.

Thanks for fixing that one RS :) yes motovated :)

[Twodogs]

Really great to hear our experienced players hitting the track early. They are motivated :)


Oh come now.

FIXED.

oh come on people. Motovate yourselves to spell better!

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I could of been a good speller
I could have been a good speller
I could've been a good speller

[Eastdog]

I could of been a good speller
I could have been a good speller
I could've been a good speller

I could have been a good speller
I could've been a good speller

Those two are the correct ones :)

[Twodogs]

I could have been a good speller
I could've been a good speller

Those two are the correct ones :)

Yup but it's bad grammar, not bad spelling Easty.

[Mantis]

Came here for a pre-season update, left after an English lesson.. may not return. :rolleyes:

[EasternWest]

Came here for a pre-season update, left after an English lesson.. may not return. :rolleyes:

Are you saying you're unmotovated to return?

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Drw4xLWU4AARpPW.jpg

[Rocket Science]

Is it just me or is Lewy Young's frame starting to resemble that of an actual key position player?

[Dancin' Douggy]

Is it just me or is Lewy Young's frame starting to resemble that of an actual key position player?

I tell you what, he looks like he might have grown a bit taller too. Could he be the dark horse for a back up ruckman?

[GVGjr]

Is it just me or is Lewy Young's frame starting to resemble that of an actual key position player?

I think he is close to it. He still looks a bit lean but given his speed and athleticism should be his strengths he probably should stay on the leaner side. We've got some good sized younger key position players coming through with Boyd, English, Naughton, Schache and Lewis.

[bulldogtragic]

I think he is close to it. He still looks a bit lean but given his speed and athleticism should be his strengths he probably should stay on the leaner side. We've got some good sized younger key position players coming through with Boyd, English, Naughton, Schache and Lewis.

And Cordy! That's a yellow card if I was the actual host and/or moderator.

If these guys reach their potential together, it will be a terrific spine. I had to actually do a double take to realise it was Young, it looks like something close to the body shape he needs to play at to keep that good closing speed of his as you say. Naughton looks like he can take two gorilla forwards at a time from his photos this week. Young also looks to have had plastic surgery to look like Tony Martin impersonating Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[GVGjr]

He just misses my height requirements for "good sized key position players" Has to be 194cm or above ;)

[Twodogs]

And Cordy! That's a yellow card if I was the actual host and/or moderator.

If these guys reach their potential together, it will be a terrific spine. I had to actually do a double take to realise it was Young, it looks like something close to the body shape he needs to play at to keep that good closing speed of his as you say. Naughton looks like he can take two gorilla forwards at a time from his photos this week. Young also looks to have had plastic surgery to look like Tony Martin impersonating Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I've tried but Gary has made it almost impossible to give him a yellow card-and he's earned it with his criticism of (the great) Zaine.;) We don't have a red/yellow card system for a start. That makes it really difficult.

[hujsh]

He just misses my height requirements for "good sized key position players" Has to be 194cm or above ;)

Is he not? Club site has him at 196 though I know they aren't always accurate.

[bornadog]

Is he not? Club site has him at 196 though I know they aren't always accurate.

He was talking Cordy

[Dry Rot]

Also Bornadog - how do you copy pictures into your post?

Bornadog is actually Naughton, so he just takes selfies from his iPhone.

[GVGjr]

Is he not? Club site has him at 196 though I know they aren't always accurate.

Cordy is 193cm according to the player profile on the website

[hujsh]

He was talking Cordy


Cordy is 193cm according to the player profile on the website

Yeah bornadog had it right, it seemed like you were discussing Young.

[Sedat]

Young also looks to have had plastic surgery to look like Tony Martin impersonating Arnold Schwarzenegger.
He wouldn’t look out of place at a Matt Dillon lookalike contest

[jeemak]

He wouldn’t look out of place at a Matt Dillon lookalike contest

Imagine they actually had such a thing.

[AshMac]

I think he is close to it. He still looks a bit lean but given his speed and athleticism should be his strengths he probably should stay on the leaner side. We've got some good sized younger key position players coming through with Boyd, English, Naughton, Schache and Lewis.

Whats the word on why Young missed all of last year in the seniors? Was it form or injury?

[ledge]

Whats the word on why Young missed all of last year in the seniors? Was it form or injury?

No idea actually , Bevo never picked him all year from memory , although I didn’t notice him in the best a lot at VFL level.
Personally I’m a little disappointed he didn’t get in because he seems to read the ball well and Is very athletic, considering how bad we were in some games I would have thought he would have got a game at times.

[Bulldog Joe]

No idea actually , Bevo never picked him all year from memory , although I didn’t notice him in the best a lot at VFL level.
Personally I’m a little disappointed he didn’t get in because he seems to read the ball well and Is very athletic, considering how bad we were in some games I would have thought he would have got a game at times.

One VFL watcher commented to me that they seemed to be really educating Lewis to defend with an emphasis on spoiling the ball. He also was used as a swingman, playing forward at significant times.

Maybe it was decided that Lewis needed to just learn some facets of the game before greater exposure in an undermanned backline.

[dogman]

He actually played 2 games this year, against Gold Coast and Lions. He was out muscled and looked out of confidence, cost us few goals from memory. I believe Bevo thought to just leave him in the VFL to get his confidence back.

The other fact is that Naughton and Cordy are in front of him. As was Adams when he was fit too.

Fingers crossed he gets his mojo back, as he showed some great qualities in 2017.

[Rocket Science]

Bit to process here ... Webb still sporting his neck bling, Dahlhaus looks as motovated as ever and as far as JJ's concerned the 1-4 year guys can GAGF.

https://preview.ibb.co/dLCbVA/Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-7-32-21-PM.png (https://ibb.co/moiTcq)

[bulldogtragic]

Did Chad Wingard like the post though??

[Happy Days]

Bit to process here ... Webb still sporting his neck bling, Dahlhaus looks as motovated as ever and as far as JJ's concerned the 1-4 year guys can GAGF.

https://preview.ibb.co/dLCbVA/Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-7-32-21-PM.png (https://ibb.co/moiTcq)

Bit of a reach there but okay

[AshMac]

No idea actually , Bevo never picked him all year from memory , although I didn’t notice him in the best a lot at VFL level.
Personally I’m a little disappointed he didn’t get in because he seems to read the ball well and Is very athletic, considering how bad we were in some games I would have thought he would have got a game at times.

Bizarre we gave him the no. 2 then! He showed good signs but in small doses and hasn’t impacted since. The club must see something we don’t

[GVGjr]

Bizarre we gave him the no. 2 then! He showed good signs but in small doses and hasn’t impacted since. The club must see something we don’t

I'd be surprised if people can't see the potential in him. I'm very confident he will be an improver in 2019

[bornadog]

I'd be surprised if people can't see the potential in him. I'm very confident he will be an improver in 2019

Exciting to have a player on the list, who doesn't turn 20 for another month, with his potential and height.

[bulldogtragic]

Exciting to have a player on the list, who doesn't turn 20 for another month, with his potential and height.

Most marks of a kpp on debut since Chris Grant. The kid needed some experience and frame building. He’s got that now, arguably his main competitor for interceptor KPP was Adams who got his wish to be anywhere other than here. So stars maybe aligning for Young.

[boydogs]

Cordy is taller than Bont, no way is he only 193

[Mofra]

Bizarre we gave him the no. 2 then! He showed good signs but in small doses and hasn’t impacted since. The club must see something we don’t
He's 19 years old FFS and a late pick. Still a lot of development left.

[GVGjr]

He's 19 years old FFS and a late pick. Still a lot of development left.

A massive amount. I'm very confident that he will continue an upward trend.

[EasternWest]

Bit to process here ... Webb still sporting his neck bling, Dahlhaus looks as motovated as ever and as far as JJ's concerned the 1-4 year guys can GAGF.

Bit harsh.

[Rocket Science]

Bit harsh.

Dear me. Okay a clumsy crack at mirth given he's doing festivals while they're doing sprints, that's all.

I'm sure JJ's not nearly that mean-spirited. Me on the other hand ...

[Twodogs]

Bit harsh.


You don't think JJ owes a little back to the club and his teammates? I think he's getting paid outside of the pay scale he deserves and he held the club over a barrel to get it.

I don't mind paying blokes big money but they have to be earning it with performance and if the performance isn't there (as it hasn't been with JJ over the last two years) then they should be pulling out all the stops to ensure they are getting back to the level that sees him as one of our best renumerated players. It's a simple equation, if you are one of the best payed players then you should be one of the best performed too and JJ is a long way short of being that.

[The Adelaide Connection]

You don't think JJ owes a little back to the club and his teammates? I think he's getting paid outside of the pay scale he deserves and he held the club over a barrel to get it.

I don't mind paying blokes big money but they have to be earning it with performance and if the performance isn't there (as it hasn't been with JJ over the last two years) then they should be pulling out all the stops to ensure they are getting back to the level that sees him as one of our best renumerated players. It's a simple equation, if you are one of the best payed players then you should be one of the best performed too and JJ is a long way short of being that.

I am not sure a photo at a music festival (taken while he is still on leave) is any type of sign that he is or isn't pulling out all the stops.

Away from the camera he may be hitting the gym hard for all we know and he may well be in excellent shape. Some players may choose to come back early, others may do extra in an exotic location/somewhere away from the usual daily grind of the footy club (such as Bont and Dunkley in NY).

[Dry Rot]

Bit harsh.

This is harsh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4pnTrjEjd0

[Twodogs]

This is harsh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4pnTrjEjd0


A and M at their funniest.

[Mofra]

You don't think JJ owes a little back to the club and his teammates? I think he's getting paid outside of the pay scale he deserves and he held the club over a barrel to get it.

I don't mind paying blokes big money but they have to be earning it with performance and if the performance isn't there (as it hasn't been with JJ over the last two years) then they should be pulling out all the stops to ensure they are getting back to the level that sees him as one of our best renumerated players. It's a simple equation, if you are one of the best payed players then you should be one of the best performed too and JJ is a long way short of being that.
7th in the B&F (1 vote off equal 5th) after sacrificing his own game for periods during the year, it's not like he's just cruising. Didn't he also win a best team player award?

[LostDoggy]

Bit to process here ... Webb still sporting his neck bling, Dahlhaus looks as motovated as ever and as far as JJ's concerned the 1-4 year guys can GAGF.

https://preview.ibb.co/dLCbVA/Screen-Shot-2018-11-13-at-7-32-21-PM.png (https://ibb.co/moiTcq)

FWIW Webb posted the exact same photo on the 24th of October. So I think it's more of a throwback rather then a message to the 1-4 year guys

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsAHVj9VYAE9lUl.jpg

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsAIsFHU4AEguFA.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsAIsFFU8AAbLJX.jpg

[Axe Man]

FWIW Webb posted the exact same photo on the 24th of October. So I think it's more of a throwback rather then a message to the 1-4 year guys

A quick google also reveals that festival took place on 17th - 21st of October.

[Twodogs]

I am not sure a photo at a music festival (taken while he is still on leave) is any type of sign that he is or isn't pulling out all the stops.

Away from the camera he may be hitting the gym hard for all we know and he may well be in excellent shape. Some players may choose to come back early, others may do extra in an exotic location/somewhere away from the usual daily grind of the footy club (such as Bont and Dunkley in NY).


7th in the B&F (1 vote off equal 5th) after sacrificing his own game for periods during the year, it's not like he's just cruising. Didn't he also win a best team player award?


Fair enough I guess. It looks like the festival was a few weeks ago too, I went a bit hard early!

[ledge]

I believe the women started back training today. Wonder if they mix in any sort of way to learn how the men do certain things or they keep them separate.

[Axe Man]

Summer watch: Keep up to date with the latest news from every club over 2019 AFL pre-season (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/summer-watch-keep-up-to-date-with-the-latest-news-from-every-club-over-2019-afl-preseason/news-story/405838215207d05b1bf800954c2d7e6c)

WESTERN BULLDOGS
THERE were plenty of smiles at Whitten Oval when Liam Picken returned to pre-season training more than a week ahead of schedule. Picken – a 2016 premiership player – missed the 2018 season after suffering a heavy concussion during a pre-season match in March but is understood to be recovering well and is determined to return to the football field. Midfielder Tom Liberatore also hit the track early, having missed all of the year after rupturing his ACL in Round 1.

RECRUIT Sam Lloyd plans to play predominantly in his natural position next season – forward. Lloyd, who crossed from Richmond during the trade period, had been morphed into a midfielder at the Tigers, playing a lot of VFL football there over the past two years. But Lloyd admits he is a “forward at heart” and should return there. He kicked 35 goals from 22 games for Richmond in 2016.

KEY forward Josh Schache is determined to make his mark in 2019 as he enters his fourth season of AFL football. The 21-year-old took a short break to America over his break before beginning his own training schedule in his hometown of Seymour, including hitting the local pool four times a week along with gym work and running. The No.2 draft pick in 2015, Schache has said he is determined to earn respect during pre-season and in 2019 after showing some positive signs during 2018, kicking 17 goals from 13 games.

Draft picks: 7, 27, 32, 45, 63, 75, 82

[Dry Rot]

Schache could be a real surprise packet in 2019.

Love this bit:




KEY forward Josh Schache is determined to make his mark in 2019 as he enters his fourth season of AFL football. The 21-year-old took a short break to America over his break before beginning his own training schedule in his hometown of Seymour, including hitting the local pool four times a week along with gym work and running. The No.2 draft pick in 2015, Schache has said he is determined to earn respect during pre-season and in 2019 after showing some positive signs during 2018, kicking 17 goals from 13 games.

Draft picks: 7, 27, 32, 45, 63, 75, 82

[bulldogtragic]

He did the extra pre-season training before he joined us too. It sounds like he wants to try to build a Nick Riewoldt type of running power in time. He already covers a lot of ground with good field and goal kicking skills. To think he's only 21. So much talent to unlock.

[Rocket Science]

Summer watch: Keep up to date with the latest news from every club over 2019 AFL pre-season (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/summer-watch-keep-up-to-date-with-the-latest-news-from-every-club-over-2019-afl-preseason/news-story/405838215207d05b1bf800954c2d7e6c)

WESTERN BULLDOGS
THERE were plenty of smiles at Whitten Oval when Liam Picken returned to pre-season training more than a week ahead of schedule. Picken – a 2016 premiership player – missed the 2018 season after suffering a heavy concussion during a pre-season match in March but is understood to be recovering well and is determined to return to the football field. Midfielder Tom Liberatore also hit the track early, having missed all of the year after rupturing his ACL in Round 1.

RECRUIT Sam Lloyd plans to play predominantly in his natural position next season – forward. Lloyd, who crossed from Richmond during the trade period, had been morphed into a midfielder at the Tigers, playing a lot of VFL football there over the past two years. But Lloyd admits he is a “forward at heart” and should return there. He kicked 35 goals from 22 games for Richmond in 2016.

KEY forward Josh Schache is determined to make his mark in 2019 as he enters his fourth season of AFL football. The 21-year-old took a short break to America over his break before beginning his own training schedule in his hometown of Seymour, including hitting the local pool four times a week along with gym work and running. The No.2 draft pick in 2015, Schache has said he is determined to earn respect during pre-season and in 2019 after showing some positive signs during 2018, kicking 17 goals from 13 games.

Draft picks: 7, 27, 32, 45, 63, 75, 82

Oh does he just? Afraid you came to the wrong club for that sort of new-fangled thinking, bucko.

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PS: the JJ post was a stupid harmless GAG Woofers. That it garnered any traction tells me it's peak off-season. Hurry up draft.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

I like Schache and think he has a bright future so long as he continues to apply himself. Showed some nice signs last year and with a bigger tank/stronger body and more exposure, he'll only improve. Worth noting he's been involved in some poor sides too, so as we mature as a side, that should help.

I do think Schache would enjoy a foil such as a fit/firing Tom Boyd or somebody like a Max King.

[EasternWest]

Dear me. Okay a clumsy crack at mirth given he's doing festivals while they're doing sprints, that's all.

I'm sure JJ's not nearly that mean-spirited. Me on the other hand ...

A certified monster. Even my Mum says you are.

[EasternWest]

You don't think JJ owes a little back to the club and his teammates? I think he's getting paid outside of the pay scale he deserves and he held the club over a barrel to get it.

I don't mind paying blokes big money but they have to be earning it with performance and if the performance isn't there (as it hasn't been with JJ over the last two years) then they should be pulling out all the stops to ensure they are getting back to the level that sees him as one of our best renumerated players. It's a simple equation, if you are one of the best payed players then you should be one of the best performed too and JJ is a long way short of being that.

I think he's a professional athlete whose management negotiated the best deal they could while his employer chose to remunerate him for what they see as his worth. I think he owes it to his employer to perform his job to the best of his ability.

If part of his contract doesn't stipulate that he has to start at X time, then I don't blame him for that. If he chose to start earlier than the agreed time, I would tip my hat to him. I certainly wouldn't be giving my employer my free time for nothing.

I guess I don't really have the romantic notion of "owing" clubs. If the club feels like he "owes" them, then I imagine that would be stipulated in his contract. I don't know what else you'd want me to say.

Also, I realise that Rocket was being light hearted and that probably didn't come off in my reply.

[bornadog]

Keeping an eye on training

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsChGiTU4AA607F.jpg

[bulldogtragic]

Is he wearing a Manzier?

[Happy Days]

Keeping an eye on training

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsChGiTU4AA607F.jpg

Omg.

[jeemak]

Is he wearing a Manzier?

The Bro!

[bornadog]

Omg.

Those arms and chest

[bulldogtragic]

The Bro!

Manzier!!

[bulldogtragic]

Those arms and chest

Australian arm wrestling champion right there if he wants the title. Talk about leading by example with extra weight sessions.

[bornadog]

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/f20705c6cd262b4d4ff32ea109e3760e?width=316

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/8e9b7e24efd25f5b07594309f87dbbd8?width=316

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/ce2cc4ccbe70944e08ae3452ddb4adc7?width=1024

[Axe Man]

A good sign for Webb if he's at least running laps you would think? Surely he wouldn't bother if he was being forced into retirement with his neck injury?

[Rocket Science]

A certified monster. Even my Mum says you are.

Definitive proof you should always listen to your Mum.


Those arms and chest

Fair dinkum, rookie-list him and stick him in the guts.

[Twodogs]

Definitive proof you should always listen to your Mum.

Lou Reed said that you can't always trust your mother.




Fair dinkum, rookie-list him and stick him in the guts.

He's impressive. I'd be keeping out of arm wrestles with him.

[Rocket Science]

He's impressive. I'd be keeping out of arm wrestles with him.

Can you imagine mudguts Stringer rocking up at the start of pre-season and being met with a stare from the cockroach in that sort of nick?

Barrett's a brave man if he keeps up his schtick.

[mjp]

Lou Reed said that you can't always trust your mother.


He also said 'But now you've sucked your lemon peel dry, so why not get high, high, high' so I am not sure he is the greatest source of advice...

[EasternWest]

Definitive proof you should always listen to your Mum.


Yeah but she's been gone 27 years now. Even I'm starting to worry about her talking to me.

[Twodogs]

He also said 'But now you've suckeded your lemon peel dry, so why not get high, high, high' so I am not sure he is the greatest source of advice...


Nick Cave, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, Johnny Cash, John Lydon, Henry Rollins, you think I may have been listening to the wrong people all these years?

That can't be right or I'd be totally *!*!*!*!ed up by now.

[ledge]

Nick Cave, Lou Reed, Iggy Pop, Johnny Cash, John Lydon, Henry Rollins, you think I may have been listening to the wrong people all these years?

That can't be right or I'd be totally *!*!*!*!ed up by now.
No Beatles ??

[bornadog]

Sam Lloyd on the track
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsUwTbBVAAA42vV.jpg

[bornadog]

Doc Duryea arrives as well

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsUweCIU4AIPuHl.jpg

[bornadog]

Preseason Medical update.

See here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2018-11-19/medical-room-preseason-update)

[divvydan]

Recap of medical update for those who can't watch.

C.Daniel and JJ, both had offseason surgery, both back running, expected to train fully after Christmas/New year break
Bailey Dale, did rehab over break on stress fracture, doing some running now, about a month away from joining in
Gowers fractured wrist, plenty of running, training fully in around a month (just before break)
Webb, still has neck brace, light running, will have scans in 8 weeks and plan made after that (long way away)
Picken, lots of running, still getting mild headaches, no contact allowed until given green light by specialist.

[bulldogtragic]

Thanks DD. Doesn't sound good for Webb or Picko. I'd be beside myself if they got an injury that made their injury and slight recovery much worse. There's a lot more to life than playing footy.

[AshMac]

Recap of medical update for those who can't watch.

C.Daniel and JJ, both had offseason surgery, both back running, expected to train fully after Christmas/New year break
Bailey Dale, did rehab over break on stress fracture, doing some running now, about a month away from joining in
Gowers fractured wrist, plenty of running, training fully in around a month (just before break)
Webb, still has neck brace, light running, will have scans in 8 weeks and plan made after that (long way away)
Picken, lots of running, still getting mild headaches, no contact allowed until given green light by specialist.

That’s really concerning for Billy.

Amazed Bont didn’t have surgery - thought all signs pointed to off season hip surgery this year.... god I hope he doesn’t have another year w discomfort

[divvydan]

Yeah, I'm surprised at the mention of only two players having off-season surgery. Perhaps there were more who had minor surgery and are already back in full training or close to it so they weren't worth singling out.

[Rocket Science]

Jeez. Picken's clearly a determined bastard and doesn't generally yield to the word "no" but if that's still where he's at he may just have to at some point.

[Go_Dogs]

Not great to hear about Picko.

We should start planning for the possibility he doesn’t play at all this year. I guess the club already have with our recruitment of a couple of senior footballers who can play forward.

[Go_Dogs]

No word on whether we did a time trial today? I know it doesn’t mean much and we haven’t seemed to talk about it in the media the last few years, but I’m always keen to hear who has come back in good condition and surprised.

[bornadog]

5 + players back in training

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Images/2_191118SQUAD-1.jpg

[bornadog]

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Images/3_191118BONT.jpg

[bornadog]

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Images/12_191118wood.jpg

[Eastdog]

The full team back and training today.

[Go_Dogs]

Bont looks in glorious condition

[EasternWest]

Picken, lots of running, still getting mild headaches, no contact allowed until given green light by specialist.

Should retire. Nothing left to prove. I get that he's a driven guy, but it's time to look to the future beyond playing.

[EasternWest]

Bont IS glorious

I've fixed that for you.

[Rocket Science]

5 + players back in training

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Images/2_191118SQUAD-1.jpg

Until I see DNA tests confirming otherwise I remain convinced Trengove is genetically half-Wookiee.

[comrade]

Tom Boyd looking in decent nick.

[Mofra]

That’s really concerning for Billy.

Amazed Bont didn’t have surgery - thought all signs pointed to off season hip surgery this year.... god I hope he doesn’t have another year w discomfort
He seemed pretty comfortable yesterday in his shiny new Mercedes 4x4. Thank god for sponsors...

[Mantis]

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/WesternBulldogs/Images/12_191118wood.jpg

Something not right about the size of Easton's quads.

[Mofra]

Noting that Bailey Williams is training with the midfielders, that's where his future lies. Happy with that.

[comrade]

Something not right about the size of Easton's quads.

Quadzilla! Given his hamstring issues, you may actually be onto something..

[The Pie Man]

Wood's legs are seriously cartoon like - thinking Teen Titans Go for anyone familiar

[The Pie Man]

Noting that Bailey Williams is training with the midfielders, that's where his future lies. Happy with that.

Duryea's recruitment making a bit more sense.

I'm pretty bullish on Williams.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Should retire. Nothing left to prove. I get that he's a driven guy, but it's time to look to the future beyond playing.

Billy may have told him you are a long time retired - get the remuneration whilst you can.

[bornadog]

Duryea's recruitment making a bit more sense.

I'm pretty bullish on Williams.

my Hawthorn mate said he was a beautiful kick but he was a little inconsistent

[Twodogs]

Something not right about the size of Easton's quads.

Is his left hamstring much bigger than the right?

[EasternWest]

Billy may have told him you are a long time retired - get the remuneration whilst you can.

Sure, and if he gets another knock and it kills/permanently disables him you're also a long time dead. I know that sounds dramatic but it's a real risk. I'd expect a guy as highly regarded as him wouldn't have a problem having a future in footy.

I'm just really worried about him.

[bornadog]

That’s really concerning for Billy.

Amazed Bont didn’t have surgery - thought all signs pointed to off season hip surgery this year.... god I hope he doesn’t have another year w discomfort

Bont Press Conference:


MB: I was a little bit banged up last year, but everyone was. You work out ways to do what you do. I’m feeling really good, feeling ready to attack pre-season.

[Eastdog]

Planning to go the family fun day in a few weeks at the Whitten Oval to watch some training. Hopefully I’ll be able to meet Twodogs there this time round.

[AshMac]

Sure, and if he gets another knock and it kills/permanently disables him you're also a long time dead. I know that sounds dramatic but it's a real risk. I'd expect a guy as highly regarded as him wouldn't have a problem having a future in footy.

I'm just really worried about him.

I agree. He's a family man first and a footy player second, some things are more important.

I love him but if it’s a worry for us fans I can only imagine what it’s like in his inner circle.

[jeemak]

Picken won’t have an issue with employment after football provided he is mentally capable, he’s well educated and has had work experience i think in government/defence/consulting.

[bornadog]

Picken won’t have an issue with employment after football provided he is mentally capable, he’s well educated and has had work experience i think in government/defence/consulting.

He has completed a Uni Degree plus a Masters in Finance

[Cyberdoggie]

Tom Boyd looking in decent nick.

Probably just cos he got rid of that hobo beard he was sporting.

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds-2dqFVAAARvVn.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ds-2gFBUcAAjpur.jpg

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[Twodogs]

Lin doesn't exactly look comfortable up in the stratosphere!

[Rocket Science]

Lin doesn't exactly look comfortable up in the stratosphere!

'bout as comfortable as this bloke ...

https://i.ibb.co/55PNpMW/Screen-Shot-2018-11-27-at-7-55-30-PM.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Welcome to big league, rookie.

[Twodogs]

'bout as comfortable as this bloke ...

https://i.ibb.co/55PNpMW/Screen-Shot-2018-11-27-at-7-55-30-PM.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Welcome to big league, rookie.


I was wondering if I would take that job if it was offered to me. It would be awesome working for the footy club and being outside at training and all that but I dunno that my old bones would stand up to it anymore.

I'm probably too competitive anyway. I just couldn't stand there and take it.

[Smads57]

Does anyone know if the Bulldog's training sessions are open to public viewing?

In the past couple of years, they have not been, so wondering if this is the case this pre-season. (Thought I might wander down on a day off to see the new recruits pre Xmas).

[GVGjr]

Does anyone know if the Bulldog's training sessions are open to public viewing?

In the past couple of years, they have not been, so wondering if this is the case this pre-season. (Thought I might wander down on a day off to see the new recruits pre Xmas).

It's a bit of a tricky one Smads. I've normally just gone and entered the ground from the Café but I believe on occasions we have enforced a closed session. The club needs to do a bit better job of letting the fans know which sessions are open

[BornInDroopSt'54]

If we can wander in to training via the cafe then so can spies.It's like: lockingthe front door only keeps honest people out, the thieves know alternative entries.
Come on club, let us see the recruits and team doing pre season training. I don't want to PT from Frankston to be excluded.

[bornadog]

If we can wander in to training via the cafe then so can spies.It's like: lockingthe front door only keeps honest people out, the thieves know alternative entries.
Come on club, let us see the recruits and team doing pre season training. I don't want to PT from Frankston to be excluded.

When it is closed training, the cafe windows are blacked out

[Axe Man]

When it is closed training, the cafe windows are blacked out

Take a drone with you just in case.

[Twodogs]

If other club's spies really want to see training they just have to climb and watch from Scotchman's Hill. They can even see what's happening from parts of Gordon st. I don't see why they have closed sessions, I think we lose just as much as we gain.

Anyway as part of the rebuilding the ground was proclaimed a public park (the club wasn't even supposed to build a fence around it) so if you really wanted to stand up for yourself and insist on entry I can't see how they can stop you.

[ReLoad]

That's why Essendon moved their training/drug lab facilities indoors!

[Insufficient Intent]

That's why Essendon moved their training/drug lab facilities indoors!

Somewhat dank in there, I believe...

[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtIiwOiUcAAz_Oa.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtIiwOlVAAAeET_.jpg

[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[EasternWest]

How does Easton Wood pass testing? Ridiculous.

[comrade]

How does Easton Wood pass testing? Ridiculous.

Genetic freak.

[bulldogtragic]

How does Easton Wood pass testing? Ridiculous.

Auditioning to be a Luke Beveridge look a like. I'd be interested to know which one of the coach or captain bench presses the most.

[Axe Man]

I thought Liam was strictly non-contact? I bet he just can't help himself.

[Cyberdoggie]

I thought Liam was strictly non-contact? I bet he just can't help himself.

Yeah he is clearly not wearing the yellow vest of protection anymore. Maybe the club was deliberately trying to dull fans expectations so they could ease him into next year?

[Dry Rot]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtIiwOiUcAAz_Oa.jpg



Jong cannot be stopped!!!

[Dry Rot]

What group are Williams and Richards training with?

[kruder]

Big year for Jongy, the midfield has more depth with spots at a premium. It's his first full preseason after a knee I'd love for him to become a best 22 lock. Still remember the West Coast final after being emotional on the bench he still had a massive smile on his face while singing the song after the game. It speaks volumes to me, he is one player I'd love to see get a bit of luck, the game owes him little.

[GVGjr]

Lipinski has certainly put in some work on his physical development as has Lynch. Lynch is no longer the skinny kid that arrived at the club 3 years ago.

[bornadog]

The young pups must be excited training In an AFL club

[bulldogtragic]

The young pups must be excited training In an AFL club

Yep. Excited... :D

"Now Buku, as a defender you need to learn how to tackle big men en though your slight of frame. This is Tom Boyd. Tom is going to run at you at full pace and you have to stop him. Now just wait here for him, and don't worry we have a defibrillator somewhere in the change rooms if you encounter any bad luck."

[Twodogs]

Yep. Excited... :D

"Now Buku, as a defender you need to learn how to tackle big men en though your slight of frame. This is Tom Boyd. Tom is going to run at you at full pace and you have to stop him. Now just wait here for him, and don't worry we have a defibrillator somewhere in the change rooms if you encounter any bad luck."

Faulty defribs are a big problem ATM.

[Mantis]

Lipinski has certainly put in some work on his physical development as has Lynch. Lynch is no longer the skinny kid that arrived at the club 3 years ago.

As has Bailey Dale... He looks to finally have a frame capable of mixing it so I'll watch his development with interest.

[GVGjr]

As has Bailey Dale... He looks to finally have a frame capable of mixing it so I'll watch his development with interest.

I did notice that and I should have mentioned it. He could be a big improver in 2019

[jeemak]

Big year for Jongy, the midfield has more depth with spots at a premium. It's his first full preseason after a knee I'd love for him to become a best 22 lock. Still remember the West Coast final after being emotional on the bench he still had a massive smile on his face while singing the song after the game. It speaks volumes to me, he is one player I'd love to see get a bit of luck, the game owes him little.

It’s hard to say this without being completely disparaging to his character and effort, but I don’t want Jong anywhere near our best 22. We need players who can think their way through situations and use the ball better than we have demonstrated recently and he isn’t able to do that for mine.

Our game needs to move on from what worked in 2016, I don’t think he has capacity to do that beyond being a depth player should preferred options go down.

[Smads57]

Someone just asked the Bulldog's Twitter account for details re next open training session - it will be tomorrow (4/12) at 2 pm. I can't make it but hopefully a Woofer or two can, and add any relevant training news to this forum afterwards :).

[GVGjr]

Someone just asked the Bulldog's Twitter account for details re next open training session - it will be tomorrow (4/12) at 2 pm. I can't make it but hopefully a Woofer or two can, and add any relevant training news to this forum afterwards :).

I stand to be corrected but it looks like Ben Cavarra to me

[josie]

Looks younger and fairer in hair than Cavarra (I might be wrong though!). I initially thought Callum Porter but I do not think so. Does not look like any of this year’s recruits. A mystery.....

[The Adelaide Connection]

Darcy Cassar has been training with us today (Monday). he is a Western Jets bottom ager from this year and friends with Khamis. There was apparently another unidentified player with long, fair hair too.

[Twodogs]

It’s hard to say this without being completely disparaging to his character and effort, but I don’t want Jong anywhere near our best 22. We need players who can think their way through situations and use the ball better than we have demonstrated recently and he isn’t able to do that for mine.

Our game needs to move on from what worked in 2016, I don’t think he has capacity to do that beyond being a depth player should preferred options go down.


That's OK. After he won his seventh B & F Scott West said words to the effect of "if wins next year's B&F that's not a good thing. We have to be bringing up players who put pressure on the blokes who are best 22 and also put pressure on the best players in the team. I don't want any more Sutton medals. I want to play finals and win a flag and we aren't going to do that with the same faces"

[Smads57]

Got to the open training session this afternoon (left work early).

Probably not a lot to report on with players performing fairly simple drills with 'expected' team mates, but some observations:

1. didn't see Boyd, Libba, Picken, Lloyd, Suckling, Naughton, Morris, Lynch, or Duyrea on track (they were in the Monday training video)
2. I noticed Cavarra and Daniel on sidelines
3. No sign of JJ, Webb, Gowers or Dale (recovering from injury and therefore inside Elite Learning centre) or B Smith(?)
4. seemed to be 4 unknown players training. I had binoculars, and recognise most players, so these 4 didn't register. Possibly future f/s(?) having a run
5. Trengove and English seemed to be first ruck options (noting Boyd wasn't on the ground), with Schache teaming up with Sweet in a separate training drill.
6. B Williams trained with midfield group
7. an odd grouping was Lewis Young, Greene, Lipinski and Richards training together....does this suggest a fwd move for Young?
8. new recruits seemed to mostly train as a group with a couple of senior players amongst them e.g. Wood. Sweet, Hayes and West however worked with the other senior players on some ball up situations
9. Bont looked in great nick as did Crozier, Dunkley, Wood and Roberts
10. hard to get a feel for the newbies, Hayes and West clearly the most confident pair

I sat out on the outer wing, so didn't see everything going on, so happy to be corrected an any of the points above. I also note there is a Social Club function at Marvel Stadium this evening, so maybe some of the players not on the field were suiting up for tonight.

[bornadog]

Thank you for the update Smads57. Open training sessions are usually a fizzer and you don't get to see as much, but at least there was some action.

[Go_Dogs]

Love your work Smads, thanks.

[Eastdog]

Much appreciated Smads57. Good summary. Hopefully we can catch up in a few 2 weeks at the family fun day.

[bulldogtragic]

According to AFEL.com.au

These kids are training with us over summer: Western Bulldogs: Jack Bell, Hugo Ralph-Smith, Josh Worrell, Darcy Cassar

[SonofScray]

I think we will see Young tried up front at some point in 2019, we might try swing him forward at times like we did with Adams.

[Mofra]

I think we will see Young tried up front at some point in 2019, we might try swing him forward at times like we did with Adams.
It's easy to forget how Young young is comparing him to our other young Young who was just rookied and is only 4 months the younger Young, while our existing Young is into his 3rd re-season.

[Mofra]

9. Bont looked in great nick as did Crozier, Dunkley, Wood and Roberts

Bont & Dunks did undertake a training camp in the US so they've basically done a pre-pre-season.
I really rate Crozier so good to hear he's in good shape.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Bont & Dunks did undertake a training camp in the US so they've basically done a pre-pre-season.
I really rate Crozier so good to hear he's in good shape.

Crozier was accompanying Bonts and Dunks in the US. Not sure if he did the nike camp though

[Hotdog60]

Suckling return on track

Western Bulldogs defender Matt Suckling is pain free and looking forward to attacking the pre-season at full speed by Christmas.
Achilles soreness kept the experienced defender on the sidelines for the second half of the 2018 season, but a solid rehabilitation program has put him in a strong position to be ready for next year.
"I've had some problems with the Achilles before, but it's just down to calf strength issues and playing a wet game against Adelaide (last year) … it just flared up, and then I tried to play on and couldn't," Suckling said.

"I've spent a lot of time putting strength into my calves and I'm pain free at the moment, so running around and building up to be flat out by Christmas.”
Suckling was in arguably career-best form before his injury last season, where he averaged 24 disposals and six marks per game, and booted five goals, in the first 11 rounds.

He was on track for a top-five finish in the Charles Sutton Medal, amassing 63 votes in the first half of the campaign.
Suckling has played 50 games over three seasons for the Bulldogs since crossing from Hawthorn at the end of 2015, and signed a one-year contract extension for the 2019 season.

LINK (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2018-12-05/suckling-return-on-track-)

[Hotdog60]

So do we bring the Beasley theory in to play and don't play Matt in the wet.:)

[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[comrade]

Moz just rocks up every year in top knick.

[Vred]

Moz just rocks up every year in top knick.

I really hope we see another solid two years out of Moz before he retires, one of my favorite players to watch.

[bulldogtragic]

I really hope we see another solid two years out of Moz before he retires, one of my favorite players to watch.

I went to an event where Bevo & Moz were talking in 2015. Bevo & Moz said it'd be great to get 3 more years out of his body (16, 17 & 18). If he can stay fit and in the side, they might be saying the same thing again. He just never takes a short cut on anything on field, training or off field. Surprising he hasn't spent a lot more time in leadership groups come to think of it.

48 games to go to 300....

[Vred]

I went to an event where Bevo & Moz were talking in 2015. Bevo & Moz said it'd be great to get 3 more years out of his body (16, 17 & 18). If he can stay fit and in the side, they might be saying the same thing again. He just never takes a short cut on anything on field, training or off field. Surprising he hasn't spent a lot more time in leadership groups come to think of it.

48 games to go to 300....

Seeing him hit 300 would be a huge achievement, how his so underrated by the AFEL at large boggles my mind.

Looking at him in this pre-season training photos, no short cuts are being taken, that's for sure.

[Mantis]

Seeing him hit 300 would be a huge achievement, how his so underrated by the AFEL at large boggles my mind.

Looking at him in this pre-season training photos, no short cuts are being taken, that's for sure.

But is he really? I think he's known by all to be an extremely dependable defender.

Nice to see Bont moving freely and looking to be on an unrestricted program.

[Mofra]

But is he really? I think he's known by all to be an extremely dependable defender.
He's certainly not seen in the same light Bulldogs fans hold him in.

2nd in the B&F in a premiership year too. If you asked a neutral who came 2nd in our B&F in 2016 Moz wouldn't be in the first ten answers.

[Mantis]

2nd in the B&F in a premiership year too. If you asked a neutral who came 2nd in our B&F in 2016 Moz wouldn't be in the first ten answers.

If I asked you who came 2nd in Hawthorn's top 4 (before finals) finish in 2018 I would think unless you know, you would have 20 guesses before saying Blake Hardwick.

Point being B&F finishes are only relevant to club supporters and footy nerds/ people paid to be footy nerds.

[Twodogs]

If I asked you who came 2nd in Hawthorn's top 4 (before finals) finish in 2018 I would think unless you know, you would have 20 guesses before saying Blake Hardwick.

Point being B&F finishes are only relevant to club supporters and footy nerds/ people paid to be footy nerds.

Player managers too. They get a nice bonus if their players place in the B&F. If they don't they are dickheads and should probably find another job.

[Mofra]

If I asked you who came 2nd in Hawthorn's top 4 (before finals) finish in 2018 I would think unless you know, you would have 20 guesses before saying Blake Hardwick.

Point being B&F finishes are only relevant to club supporters and footy nerds/ people paid to be footy nerds.
Blake Hardwick would also be more highly rated by Hawks fans than neutrals, so if anything that supports Vred's point.

[Dry Rot]

I have read elsewhere that Crozier is the standout - can anyone confirm?

[bornadog]

Great short video here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2018-12-07/the-drive-moz-and-buku) on Moz picking up Buku on the way to training

[Twodogs]

Great short video here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2018-12-07/the-drive-moz-and-buku) on Moz picking up Buku on the way to training

"OK Buku, we even want you to drive the way Moz does!"

[Vred]

Great short video here (http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/video/2018-12-07/the-drive-moz-and-buku) on Moz picking up Buku on the way to training

Good to see the club putting up more media like this, felt in recent times we've lacked with positive news.
Looking forward to seeing Baku play, specially if Moz is mentor.

[Raw Toast]

Does anyone know when the men's pre-season camp on the Sunshine Coast is?

My brother lives up there, and his son is very keen to see a bit of training.

[Eastdog]

Does anyone know when the men's pre-season camp on the Sunshine Coast is?

My brother lives up there, and his son is very keen to see a bit of training.

Good question Raw Toast. Maybe you could email or call the club up and they might be able to tell you when we go up there. Hotdog60 would probably want to know as well being up in QLD.

[bornadog]

Billy is back

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuByB0QU8AAJbMh.jpg:large

[Eastdog]

Great to see. I’m hoping for another solid year from Billy.

Need to catch up on the pre season videos including the ones featuring our new draftees.

[bornadog]

These two forming a great partnership

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuB6SsVUUAADxWf.jpg

[Go_Dogs]

Great to see Billy Goat back. One of many genuine candidates for our most interesting player in the year ahead.

[bulldogtragic]

Great to see Billy Goat back. One of many genuine candidates for our most interesting player in the year ahead.

I still see Libba as the most interesting. Who knows what the photographers will see when he takes off his training top. I'm going with a full back tatt of the Womack & Womack female singers and the lyrics to 'teardrops' underneath. You just can't tell, it could easily be the smoking camel sharing a smoke with the Marlboro Man. Or a full back tatt of Stringer with a tatt of a Wookie across his chest just like Steve O. God it's a thread of guesswork this topic. Interesting man. Interesting what his brother is like.

[Twodogs]

I still see Libba as the most interesting. Who knows what the photographers will see when he takes off his training top. I'm going with a full back tatt of the Womack & Womack female singers and the lyrics to 'teardrops' underneath. You just can't tell, it could easily be the smoking camel sharing a smoke with the Marlboro Man. Or a full back tatt of Stringer with a tatt of a Wookie across his chest just like Steve O. God it's a thread of guesswork this topic. Interesting man. Interesting what his brother is like.


I love the Womacks. Even Bobby.

[Vred]

I still see Libba as the most interesting. Who knows what the photographers will see when he takes off his training top. I'm going with a full back tatt of the Womack & Womack female singers and the lyrics to 'teardrops' underneath. You just can't tell, it could easily be the smoking camel sharing a smoke with the Marlboro Man. Or a full back tatt of Stringer with a tatt of a Wookie across his chest just like Steve O. God it's a thread of guesswork this topic. Interesting man. Interesting what his brother is like.

I know people who are close with the Libba family, from what I've been told, Oliver is completely different to Tom, ''straight and narrow'' are the words that have been said to me.

Billy being back makes me so happy, 100% my favorite player last season, really looking forward to what he can do next year.

[Mofra]

These two forming a great partnership

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuB6SsVUUAADxWf.jpg
Someone posted an analysis of the last 4-6 weeks of the season when Dunkley went into the middle. Bonti's % of contested possessions dropped from 50% to 33%, his total possession count went up and his metres gained was much higher. Dunkley basically allows Bonti to do what he does best and we're a much better side for it.
I'm wondering if Libba is now second rotation with Dunkley there. Libba is the better player but Dunks' impact on the midfield structure may be greater, not to mention he seems to know how to find the contested ball himself now after spending those weeks in the middle of the year as a run-with player.

[Twodogs]

Someone posted an analysis of the last 4-6 weeks of the season when Dunkley went into the middle. Bonti's % of contested possessions dropped from 50% to 33%, his total possession count went up and his metres gained was much higher. Dunkley basically allows Bonti to do what he does best and we're a much better side for it.
I'm wondering if Libba is now second rotation with Dunkley there. Libba is the better player but Dunks' impact on the midfield structure may be greater, not to mention he seems to know how to find the contested ball himself now after spending those weeks in the middle of the year as a run-with player.

Gee that's a good problem to have!

My take is Libba is more dangerous forward so Dubks starts in the midfield.

[jeemak]

Gee that's a good problem to have!

My take is Libba is more dangerous forward so Dubks starts in the midfield.

Interesting, always thought of the midfielders Dunks was our most natural forward, aside from Bont.....

[Axe Man]

Interesting, always thought of the midfielders Dunks was our most natural forward, aside from Bont.....

Agreed, although Wallis is a pretty handy forward as well. It's just Dunkley's goal kicking that lets him down, whereas I don't think Libba is a natural forward but is an excellent finisher.

[Happy Days]

Agreed, although Wallis is a pretty handy forward as well. It's just Dunkley's goal kicking that lets him down, whereas I don't think Libba is a natural forward but is an excellent finisher.

Wallis' set shot range is about 30m and his delivery inside 50 is poor, both of which are weird outliers in his overall skill set - his craft is good but he can't be relied upon as a full time forward. I'd prefer Dunkley, whose issues have a better chance of being addressed.

[Mantis]

I'm wondering if Libba is now second rotation with Dunkley there. Libba is the better player but Dunks' impact on the midfield structure may be greater, not to mention he seems to know how to find the contested ball himself now after spending those weeks in the middle of the year as a run-with player.

So come round 1 next year who are our 3 starting mids?

[The Doctor]

So come round 1 next year who are our 3 starting mids?

Libba, MaCrae, Dunks

[Twodogs]

Interesting, always thought of the midfielders Dunks was our most natural forward, aside from Bont.....


Agreed, although Wallis is a pretty handy forward as well. It's just Dunkley's goal kicking that lets him down, whereas I don't think Libba is a natural forward but is an excellent finisher.


Wallis' set shot range is about 30m and his delivery inside 50 is poor, both of which are weird outliers in his overall skill set - his craft is good but he can't be relied upon as a full time forward. I'd prefer Dunkley, whose issues have a better chance of being addressed.

To be fair I did say Dubks. It's Eric Dubks. He's a cat B rookie we are looking at...

[Mofra]

So come round 1 next year who are our 3 starting mids?
It's a tough one. We could well start Bont forward which would mean Macrae, Libba, McLean start with a quick rotation to Dunkely, Bont, Bailey Smith straight after - Smith gets protected by two huge bodies and Bont/Dunkley get paired.

From memory McLean attended the third most centre bounces for us last year, he's really highly rated internally.

[Twodogs]

It's a tough one. We could well start Bont forward which would mean Macrae, Libba, McLean start with a quick rotation to Dunkely, Bont, Bailey Smith straight after - Smith gets protected by two huge bodies and Bont/Dunkley get paired.

From memory McLean attended the third most centre bounces for us last year, he's really highly rated internally.

Is it worth missing what Bont brings to the midfield so we can play him permently at centre half forward? Bont is close to the best mid in the game at the moment but we have more players that can play in the midfield and not so many that can play forward.

I really wish we had two Bonts. It would make things much simpler.

[Mofra]

Is it worth missing what Bont brings to the midfield so we can play him permently at centre half forward? Bont is close to the best mid in the game at the moment but we have more players that can play in the midfield and not so many that can play forward.

I really wish we had two Bonts. It would make things much simpler.
We've really had a constant generational shift in wishing we had two of a certain type of player.

For years it was Grant - one forward, one back.
Then Johnno - one on the wing, one forward
Then Murphy - one back, one forward
Now it's the Bont - one mid, one forward.

[Twodogs]

We've really had a constant generational shift in wishing we had two of a certain type of player.

For years it was Grant - one forward, one back.
Then Johnno - one on the wing, one forward
Then Murphy - one back, one forward
Now it's the Bont - one mid, one forward.

Two Doug Hawkins would have been handy. Not only could we play one on each wing they could have gone out drinking with one another!

[Mofra]

Two Doug Hawkins would have been handy. Not only could we play one on each wing they could have gone out drinking with one another!
I bet CUB would have loved two Dougies.

[Twodogs]

I bet CUB would have loved two Dougies.

It would have doubled their profits.

[Mantis]

It's a tough one. We could well start Bont forward which would mean Macrae, Libba, McLean start with a quick rotation to Dunkely, Bont, Bailey Smith straight after - Smith gets protected by two huge bodies and Bont/Dunkley get paired.

I'm hitting them right between the eyes - Bont, Libba & Dunkley.


From memory McLean attended the third most centre bounces for us last year, he's really highly rated internally.

He is rated highly by many external parties too, he was putting together a really good season until he got poleaxed against Port (??) and wasn't the same player afterwards... needs to tidy up a few things (more care with his kicking), but he's developing into a really nice player.

[Mofra]

He is rated highly by many external parties too, he was putting together a really good season until he got poleaxed against Port (??) and wasn't the same player afterwards... needs to tidy up a few things (more care with his kicking), but he's developing into a really nice player.
I'd actually like to see him rotate forward a little more. He did spend significant time forward for us when drafted and does have attacking instincts. I really hope he doesn't lose that be begin forced to grind out his time in the midfield. Hopefully with Dunkley and Libba back he spends a little more time outside the contest too.

[Go_Dogs]

I'm hitting them right between the eyes - Bont, Libba & Dunkley.



He is rated highly by many external parties too, he was putting together a really good season until he got poleaxed against Port (??) and wasn't the same player afterwards... needs to tidy up a few things (more care with his kicking), but he's developing into a really nice player.

I’m going Bont, Macrae, Dunks.

Imagine rolling up to the bounce and having these blokes milling around. How are you going to compete with their size?

[Twodogs]

I’m going Bont, Macrae, Dunks.

Imagine rolling up to the bounce and having these blokes milling around. How are you going to compete with their size?

It's moments like those that you get to laugh at the footy. A lot.

[bornadog]

new hair style

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[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[Mofra]

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Is that Vandermeer?

[soupman]

Is that Vandermeer?

Duryea and Lloyd I reckon.

[GVGjr]

Is that Vandermeer?

I think Vandermeer and Lloyd

[Axe Man]

I think Vandermeer and Lloyd

That's correct as per the original Facebook post from the club.

Looks like all the rain washed JJ's hair dye out.

[Vred]

I need to find out what Easton's workout routine is because... well, damn.

https://i.imgur.com/20p2vTU.jpg

[kruder]

Yeah good size about Vandermeer for an 18 year old kid.

[bulldogtragic]

Yeah good size about Vandermeer for an 18 year old kid.

Yep, a good size and looks to attack it well from that photo. He turns 20 in just over two months, so if the skill is right, he might have the body to play sooner rather than later.

[kruder]

Yep, a good size and looks to attack it well from that photo. He turns 20 in just over two months, so if the skill is right, he might have the body to play sooner rather than later.

Ahh thats right he was an overage player this year. Agree looks promising.

[GVGjr]

That's correct as per the original Facebook post from the club.

Looks like all the rain washed JJ's hair dye out.

That's the best he has looked in ages.

[Testekill]

I need to find out what Easton's workout routine is because... well, damn.

https://i.imgur.com/20p2vTU.jpg

I have big quads and even I'm wondering how his haven't exploded yet.

[Mofra]

Wood is an athletic freak though, state level high jumper at 185cm. On top of incredible work ethic he's been blessed with freakishly good genetics.

[Bulldog Joe]

Wood is an athletic freak though, state level high jumper at 185cm. On top of incredible work ethic he's been blessed with freakishly good genetics.

I recall Rocket Eade once saying that Wood had the biggest thighs he had ever seen on any individual.

[Smads57]

Just some quick observations from the trek to WO this morning for Family Fun Day to watch the men's training only:

Players trained on the ground for about an hour
Not involved in any training: Dale, Libba, Suckling, B Smith
Running laps only: Bonti, Duyrea, Webb, Naughton
Didn't see Tom Boyd and don't think I noticed Cordy (could be wrong on this latter player however...)
Rest of players out on track including Picken and Gowers.
Last drill had players running and then being asked to shoot on goal before repeating the process four times - i guess it was about goal kicking under fatigue. It was interesting how they had the running groups set up...might have been an indication on who still needs to build their running capacity/tank. Buku clearly has no tank as he really seemed to struggle keeping up with his group in this drill.
Got to see kicking actions of Lloyd, West, Cavarra, Vandermeer and Young - they seemed ok in the drills, but there was no real pressure being applied.
Anyone else see something of note?

[Eastdog]

Thanks Smads57. Yeah I wish I could add something but came after the training session when they were doing the speeches.

[ratsmac]

I have big quads and even I'm wondering how his haven't exploded yet.


Wood is an athletic freak though, state level high jumper at 185cm. On top of incredible work ethic he's been blessed with freakishly good genetics.


I recall Rocket Eade once saying that Wood had the biggest thighs he had ever seen on any individual.

I loved in the GF when Wood used those thighs to great effect firstly with his solid bump on Kieran Jack to set the scene for the day, and then secondly when he took out Hannerbury. He was like smashing into a tree stump.

He's looking in great nick so hopefully we see the return of 2015-16 Easton Wood in 2019.

[Eastdog]

Pre season heads to Torquay this week.

[bornadog]

Pre season heads to Torquay this week.

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[Twodogs]

Wally doesn't look very happy losing. Moz looks very happy to be on the winning team.

[Axe Man]

'Game of Thrones' themed player draft hits Dog beach (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-12-17/game-of-thrones-themed-player-draft-hits-dog-beach)

A 'GAME of Thrones' themed pre-season player draft is driving the Western Bulldogs' endeavours to return to finals football.

Descending on Torquay on Monday for day one of a four-day training camp, the Dogs completed a series of beach activities, aimed at building fitness and team morale.

Split into four teams, defender Matt Suckling revealed the popular TV program – based on four families – had provided the catalyst for the summer's activities.

"We do it most pre-seasons, we've got four captains, had a draft and picked teams," Suckling said.

"It was Game of Thrones themed (this year) and it was picking characters out of Game of Thrones as different players."

"All events go towards points and the end of pre-season, usually (we) have a winner and some prizes. It boosts morale, you get to hang out with guys you might not hang as much with.

"It's always nice to get away from the club and do something different."

After a tiring session at Whitten Oval on Monday morning, the Dogs were put through drills such as a digging treasure hunt, relay races and the popular tug-of-war – drawn up by assistant Ash Hansen.

The group containing captain Easton Wood, Liam Picken, Mitch Wallis, Dale Morris, Patrick Lipinski, Josh Schache and Ed Richards claimed a come-from-behind victory in the tug-of-war.

Picken completed the entire session, able to take part in all non-contact work as he continues to recover from an entire 2018 season missed with concussion symptoms.

Midfielder Lukas Webb was on hand for parts of the afternoon, still sporting a neck brace that he hopes to have removed around March following an injury sustained in the VFL in July.

Suckling, in the midst of his 13th pre-season, has only just returned to full running after a delayed start to the summer due to missing the back half of 2018 with Achilles soreness.

While he said there was a fantastic "vibe" around the group as they look to play finals for the first time since the 2016 premiership, Suckling said he was also enjoying the company of a dual premiership teammate.

Arriving during the NAB AFL Trade Period, Taylor Duryea looks poised for a role alongside Suckling in defence – the pair re-uniting under their former Hawthorn assistant coach Luke Beveridge.

"It's nice to have a familiar face around, he drove me down here today and we're rooming together, so we've been hard to separate at the moment," he said.

"He's fitting in really well at the moment and looks good.

"He's a really versatile player and I think 'Bevo' (Beveridge) really likes that, guys that can play multiple roles.

"He's a hard-bodied guy that can play down back, or we've seen him play forward and kick goals as well.

"He's probably training more down back at the moment but can play anywhere."

Suckling highlighted NAB AFL Rookie Draft pick Lachie Young as the player to have stood out most to date – with No.7 national draft pick Bailey Smith showing up a few of his older teammates.

"He's come straight in and has got the best rig at the club already so that's one for him. A few guys like myself don't have the shirt off around him," Suckling said.

After Thursday, the Dogs will head off on their three-week break over Christmas, as stipulated by the AFLPA, before the club embarks on a pre-season training camp in Queensland in January.

As for Suckling, the new year brings in wedding season, with the defender off to celebrate the nuptials of current teammate Mitch Wallis and also attend the marriage of former teammate Isaac Smith.

[EasternWest]

Good to see Griff back at the club.
https://imgur.com/a/hpXSzRv

[LostDoggy]

Libba was training apart from the main group in a white T shirt at the Family Day last Saturday. Looked very fit.

[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

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[bornadog]

Fletch looking stronger than many seasons before. Hopefully he can reach some form and reclaim a spot.

[bulldogtragic]

Fletch looking stronger than many seasons before. Hopefully he can reach some form and reclaim a spot.

Looks leaner at the same time too. Maybe there’s a new style to his play in 2019?

[Vred]

A few videos put out by the club on Facebook today, all the boys are looking real good this pre-season.