Intra club-8/2/08

[Twodogs]

A great traditional wet day at the footy ground.

Teams were evenly matched with only a few missing due to injury-Williams, Skipper and Guido. No Ward due to school commitments.

-Cooney and Griffin started on each. Cooney was outstanding for the whole game, Griffin got moved off him fairly quickly and it was hard to tell who manned him up after that. Didnt really matter though because Cooney was in the zone and dominated.

-Aker was brilliant. He is such a smart player, didnt waste a touch.

-Eagleton played the quarterback role that Jordy has done the last couple of years.

-Ray showed composure and guts backing into the unknown to take marks a couple of time. Still has the same problems kicking though.

-Hudson dominated in the ruck until halftime. His palming to his teammates is going to be huge for Cooney, Eagleton and the midfieders this year. Went off at halftime to give Minson and Street more time on the ball.

-Cam White played more in the middle and played well. His decision making is improving

-Dale Morris is looking a bit like Hulk Hogan without the hair and the beard.

-Matty Boyd improved as the game wore on and ended up in the best

-Harbrow looked bigger and did some nice things.

-Brennan Stack looks very assured with the ball in his hands. I've got a feeling about this guy.

-Johnno was in the guts for most of the game and was, well, Johnno. Sensational!


The gamestyle has a more defensive aspect to it. The players are making more space and sharing the ball in defence until an option appears and then they run forward. Going forward was a bit of a problem because we stuffed about a bit with the ball instead of shooting for goal. There were also many times when opponents were made to 'earn' their marks and a few spotfires flared up around the ground. The ones that I remember were Eagelton and Johnno throwing a few punches, Minson and Higgins having and altercation at a centre bounce and Westy giving DFA a punch in the guts, but I didnt see what DFA did in the first place.

[GVGjr]

How did McDougall, Callan, Wight and Everitt go?

Where did Higgins play?

Did Lake get through a full game?

[Twodogs]

How did McDougall,

Good, looks reamarkbly like Jordy in #23 from a distance.


Callan,

Outclassed by his opponent(Johnno)

Wight

Promising, Played mainly around the middle and got a bit of it. Might have a niggling injury though.


Everitt


Superb. The guy has footy smarts, knows where to run and is a beautiful kick. I will be suprised if he doesnt come on in leaps and bounds.
Where did Higgins play?

Wing nominally but he worked hard between the 50 metre arcs. Gee he's got a loud voice.

Did Lake get through a full game?

Didnt notice him leave the ground.





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[Mantis]

Thanks 2Dogs..

Just a quick one for you, say your at the pub talking footy and Higgins name comes up in conversation will you cut them off and say something like, 'Did you know he has a loud voice'.... I think we get the picture.... Shaun Higgins has a LOUD voice!!!

[GVGjr]

Where did Everitt play?

[Raw Toast]

Good that the club already has a report up on its website.

I heard that several clubs refused to let us have it on their grounds, which along with the cricket and drought conditions put paid to having it elsewhere.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/Default.aspx?tabid=4112&newsId=55087

[Twodogs]

Thanks 2Dogs..

Just a quick one for you, say your at the pub talking footy and Higgins name comes up in conversation will you cut them off and say something like, 'Did you know he has a loud voice'.... I think we get the picture.... Shaun Higgins has a LOUD voice!!!

It keeps getting louder though.

[LostDoggy]

Great post. Very analytical. I dug it....

Higgins. I want to see that guy snap 30 or 40 goals this year, a (likeable) Phil Matera type of player.

Good news about the Eagle. Hasn't received his due for us, so a big 2008 would be what he deserves. And Cam Wight, the forgotten player. Good to hear he is still putting his name forward.

How did we ever come up with DFA as a nickname? Dylan is so ripe with possibilities but we came up with DFA......

[Twodogs]

Where did Everitt play?


At full back on Grant. It was a good battle-Grant should be well pleased with himself.

[Twodogs]

Great post. Very analytical. I dug it....

Higgins. I want to see that guy snap 30 or 40 goals this year, a (likeable) Phil Matera type of player.

Good news about the Eagle. Hasn't received his due for us, so a big 2008 would be what he deserves. And Cam Wight, the forgotten player. Good to hear he is still putting his name forward.

How did we ever come up with DFA as a nickname? Dylan is so ripe with possibilities but we came up with DFA......



Higgins is every chance of doing that, he's so good around the goals.


DFA is short for Dylan ****ing Addison. It's from Johnno's speech prior to Dylan's first game when he was receiving his jumper. The speech was littered with the 'F' word0

[LostDoggy]

At full back on Grant. It was a good battle-Grant should be well pleased with himself.

I still see Grant and think Chris. Going to take me longer to adjust....

[Raw Toast]

Couple of things from my notes.

Intra club matches are strange beasts - you're really excited to be there, but also worried something bad might happen. You want the players to show a bit of aggression and toughness, but also want them to be careful not to injure their opponents. Every time Griffen was the subject of a big tackle I held my breath until he got up ok.

For those not in Melbourne, the rain really pelted down for much of the first half and it must have been bitterly cold at times out on the ground. The ground seemed in good nick though, and there was no mud for those nostalgic about the good old days at WO.

The game was tough and hard, a bit fiery at times even, though another strange aspect is the semi-regular swapping of players from one team to another. Eagle and Johnno did kiss and make up five minutes or so after their tangle, but it was great to see a bit of passion on the field. In another example Cross screamed blue murder when a free was paid against him in front of goal (I'm sure Sockeye would've agreed that it was a clearly incorrect decision). Cross was also winded late in the game after tackling Lake, while he shook up Higgins with a very big tackle (and what looked an accidental poke in the face), and Cooney and Griffen laid some very big tackles on each other.

Just before getting to the match-ups and performances, intra-clubs are really hard to review completely accurately because you're interested in all 36 players out on the ground, rather than just 18, and it's impossible to follow everyone at the same time. Some of my comments and observations then, might be a bit different to other watchers.

Cooney V Griffen was one of the feature match-ups. I don't think Griff was disgraced and he actually did quite well at some stoppages and in the defensive half of the ground, but Cooney was on fire and really impressed with his work-rate and composure. Unlike sometimes last year he didn't panic when no option was immediately available, instead he wiggled his way clear and found someone free. They were rested at the same time and it was a fierce battle.

Everitt V Grant was another good match-up. Everitt looks much bigger than last year and played better the longer the game went (he did concede a goal to a bad hand-pass early). Grant was impressive on the lead but a bit unsure with the ball, and fumbled a few marks and hand-ball receives that you'd think he would normally gobble. His mum said that he's still getting used to the footy side of things after a fairly long lay-off. My sense was that he was played mainly as a CHF, with Everitt at CHB. In the last quarter Everitt changed sides, and McDougall took Grant.

McDougall spent most of the game on Wight, with both having fairly impressive games. The conditions didn't suit high-marking, and McDougall brought the ball to ground when he was in the contest. Wight was good at leading long into space though, and took a fair few sliding marks. His disposal was poor early but improved and I can see why Eade was fairly happy with his game. Dougs did look v like McMahon at times, and has good hands and desperation when the ball is there to be won. Ran forward a bit though was rarely used.

Higgins tore the game apart in the first quarter in the middle and moving forward but was then shaken up by the tackle of Cross (which I think did poke him around the eye). He played well thereafter but didn't dominate. Lots of class and it was good to see him winning the contested ball early - looks very hungry.

Aker was great. In everything and lots of important knock-ons, Michael Long style. Seems more composed and set up a fair few goals, as well as dobbing one himself.

Hill was one of the surprises to me. Played mainly in defense and beat Lynch and Stack convincingly (though Stack had a better game than Lynch). Was really good in one-on-one contests and then provided great run. His kicking did seem to lack penetration at one point though.

Stephen Tiller was another who impressed in defense. He played on Aker a bit, adn was in everything for awhile, and looked sure of himself as well. Was moved forward late and didn't have as much impact.

Ray was also steady and seemed like he belonged more. Took some great marks backing back, but his kicking is still a concern (Gotch indicated he might want to change his ball drop a bit).

I liked the look of Reid as well. Strong body already and was prepared to mix it up with the likes of Hahn. Hahn was a bit disappointing for mine, but he did have Morris on him for most of the game.

I'll write more later, got to finish some work by 5pm first though.

[aker39]

I know it's only an intra club game, but from all reports Cooney was on fire.

I'm glad I took the 100-1 on him for the Brownlow back in December.

[Templeton31]

thanks 2D & RT. great reports. Notice Welsh at all? Did he play up fwd? What would you say about our fwd line structure given it sounds like johnno played a bit in the middle? Was it any different last year having someone taller like Minson or Wight up fwd?

[LostDoggy]

Thanks for the reports guys, it's good to hear that there were no real injuries and they all performed well.

[Raw Toast]

thanks 2D & RT. great reports. Notice Welsh at all? Did he play up fwd? What would you say about our fwd line structure given it sounds like johnno played a bit in the middle? Was it any different last year having someone taller like Minson or Wight up fwd?

Welsh was played primarily as a forward I think. He took awhile to get into the game - seemed almost like he was trying too hard to impress in the first half and he rushed things a bit and the bounce of the ball didn't go his way. He settled in the second half and showed that he is a lovely kick for goal.

Minson played as a deep forward for much of the first half, with Welsh also deep, and Harbrow starting there as well. Although at times players seemed a bit cute going forward (waiting for the perfect option), the ball was kicked long to a contest involving Minson more often. Very hard conditions for overhead marking. He read the ball well once and missed one he should've taken (followed by an angry roar), but brought the ball to ground well, and I think can be an asset when the ball does hit the ground. He picked up the ball beautifully at pace on one occassion and handed off well, and also had the presence of mind to kick back out of the fifty to Cooney when he was hemmed in the pocket. In other words, he did what Morgan did, maybe a bit more, but promised to be able do a fair bit more (no guarantees though). He had Lake on him who did well.

Murphy mainly played on a half-forward flank and had a good contest with Gilbee, though they nullified each other a fair bit as well. I think Murphy shaded him, though he let himself down a few times with poor short passes forward.

The rookie ruck, Shaw played forward for much of the game, and showed a bit when he was able to lead to the ball, but O'Shea comprehensively beat him, especially when the ball hit the ground, and was good at taking Shaw under it as well. I'd speak about O'Shea's courage but we already know lots about that even though he's only been around for a year.

Stack played forward a bit in the first half and was ok - did some nice things when he got it, and looked promising but didn't get it enough. He played back a bit in the last quarter and went a bit better but the sting was out of it by then. Lynch looked quite good but couldn't quite get into it, apart from a great rove and goal. He's put on muscle but is still troubled by conditions that favour heavy bodies and was pushed of it a bit.

Harbrow also struggled early to get into it for mine, but eased his way in and had a very good second quarter. Missed a couple of set shots though.

West spent a bit of time resting forward and was handy, but also missed a snap.

So we were setting up taller at both ends and mixing it up a bit more. Even though neither Minson nor Wight were taking over-head marks they'll probably change the way team's defend us, as both require a KP backman on them. And I suspect the forward rovers will come into it more, though it was hard to pick evidence of that up in todays game.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Great reports as always, very interesting and well detailed reading. :)

[LostDoggy]

Someone posted photos here
http://www.gspimages.com.au/photography/results/?q=collection:AFL%202008%20Media%20-%20%20Western%20Bulldogs%20Intraclub%20Match%20080208&sub_code=all

Onslaught and cyberdoggie look funny watching.

[Raw Toast]

Just to add a bit more to the previous posts.

On the new draftees: O'Keefe, Grant, Reid, Henry White and Shaw were the ones who played.

White was easy to recognise because he is very young looking, but he wasn't afraid to go into the middle of packs, and did a fair few nice things. O'Keefe was zippy and got more of it as the game went on, and I've already discussed Reid and Grant (who would be unhappy with his performance I reckon, but you could see Everitt really wanted to beat him, and I think did. Grant's work rate was impressive though).

Addison went in and out of the game. Looked a bit more polished but still tended to run into trouble sometimes. Does seem bigger.

Eagle was impressive - Cross and West were themselves, which unfortunately included some poor shots at goal, though Cross kicked a nice long set shot to go with a closer shocker into what must've been a very tricky wind.

Callan showed a bit when he was in play, but Johnson was everywhere. Sometimes Johnno showed great vision and sometimes wasn't great going forward, and still gets goal fever when in the fifty.

Hudson and Aker, along with Cooney, were probably the most pleasing features of the game.

[dogman]

Thanks for the report guys, great to hear.

Any news on Mulligan, he was all the talk a few weeks back, did he play today?

Going by what you have seen of Grant, is there any chance he will play senior footy this year?

[dogman]

What position did Hargrave play?

[Twodogs]

Thanks for the report guys, great to hear.

Any news on Mulligan, he was all the talk a few weeks back, did he play today?

Going by what you have seen of Grant, is there any chance he will play senior footy this year?



No Mulligan. Dont know where he was. He's had a haircut though, that's the only information I heard about him.


Hard to say. He still appears fairly raw but he's only just out of a cast from a wrist injury so he might have been a bit rusty. The kid's a competitor, really works hard and has got talent. He also demands the ball more than your average first year draftee. Short answer is I wouldnt expect him to play this year but I wouldnt be suprised if he did.

[DOG GOD]

GREAT report guys.....thanks for sharing :)

[Go_Dogs]

Thanks for the very detailed reports, good reading.

Could Johnno be a chance to play a fairly big part in the midfield this year? Perhaps he could be the missing, 'explosive' link.

[LostDoggy]

Great reporting fellas.

[hujsh]

Excellent quality. Coooooooooney is bloody pumping me up!:D

[LostDoggy]

Excellent quality. Coooooooooney is bloody pumping me up!:D

Griffen was at exactly the same stage this time last year. Lets not get ahead of ourselves...


...but shit, its hard not to!!!

[FrediKanoute]

Thanks guys great reports and has me already to head home after work tonight, crack open a can and watch the Collingwood game from last year.......

[The Coon Dog]

Unfortunately, due to work commitments I was unable to attend this mornings practice match, which is a pity as I would love to have attended.

Due to the ground being a construction site spectators weren't permitted in under OH&S guidelines. Adequate warning was issued & friends of mine who were there sent me this.

Here's their report:

"A typical wet & windy Whitten Oval, something to reminisce about. The rain fairly bucketed down during periods of the game, so combined with the fluky wind, the slippery conditions were never going to be conducive to 'champagne football'. Having said that, it might be a pointer of what to expect should it be wet/slippery in Darwin next Friday night.

The players were split in two teams, one wearing white, the other in blue. During the game some players changed teams.

The most evident & pleasing thing was the amount of defensive pressure applied. Certainly a vast improvement on that shown in the past. Very pleasing!

Aker was probably the most dominant player on the day. They say the cream rises to the top in inclement conditions. Well it's certainly true of Aker. He knocked up getting possessions & rarely wasted it.

Shaun Higgins was also prominent. He's probably got the deepest & loudest voice of all AFL players, a very polished display today in the midfield.

2 intriguing contests were all 4 players showed out at various stages were the Murphy/Gilbee & Everitt/Grant duels. Everitt & Gilbee use it so well, Murphy & Grant demand it.

Ben Hudson played the first half & was clearly the most dominant big man on the ground. He's going to be a ripper this season! His combination in the middle with our plethora of talented mids could be our key this season.

Speaking of mids, Cooney was prominent & is one of the best tacklers in the team, certainly sticks them. He got a fair bit of it today as did the usual suspects of Cross, West & Boyd.

Up forward Will Minson was handy all day, not just for what he did, but his physical presence.

On more than one occasion Farren Ray showed terrific courage backing into oncoming traffic to take overhead marks, particularly early when the oncoming herd was headed by Big Will.

Guy O'Keefe showed some good signs up forward, lovely left foot snap for a goal. Infact the draftees all did well as Sam Reid was very prominent, seems to read the play well & has a beautiful physique about him. Callan Ward & Jarrod Baumann didn't play. Someone said that Callan was at school, which is important.

The game was played under NAB Cup rules, so backwards kicks that were marked were called play on as were balls hitting the goal post & bouncing back into play, which one fell beautifully into the unsuspecting arms of Matthew Boyd.

Brad Johnson got better the further the game went. Very strong hands out infront, looked super impressive when on the ball & made life very difficult for Tim Callan.

Cam Wight seemed to run to all the right places across half forward & whilst not a Johnno Brown, he'll be very handy if he keeps presenting as he did today.

Scott Welsh looks a very polished AFL player. He got a fair bit of it today, as did Josh Hill. Brennan Stack could be the 'X factor' at some stage as he has a bit of Ashley Sampi about him, the ability to make the difficult look ridiculously easy.

Nathan Eagleton did well early but what was impressive was his run from defence when moved back in the second half, played like a former running defender we had from SA, only he hit his targets!

All in all, pretty much what you'd expect from a scratch match in February."

Whilst it was disappointing that spectators weren't able to be let in, I think it's important people understand & respect the decision, particularly as it was outside the club's control & make sure you get yourself to the family day there on the 9th of March!

[hujsh]

]Griffen was at exactly the same stage this time last year[/B]. Lets not get ahead of ourselves...


...but shit, its hard not to!!!

Was he! guys on this site are talking up brownlow smokey for COON, surely it wasn't the same amount of hype

[LostDoggy]

From sportal http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/aker-stars-for-dogs-42865

Some points of interest
- Tiller was mentioned as one of the better younger players
- Welsh kicked 1.3 in a game which had only 13 goals
- Williams is still 2-3 weeks away

[ledge]

Great to see Stephen Tiller going well , he lived with my mother in law when he first came from SA.
Good kid, good head on shoulders, he also had the luck of Boarding with Jesse Wells at same time, must have driven my mum in law mad lol.

[always right]

From sportal http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/aker-stars-for-dogs-42865

Some points of interest
- Tiller was mentioned as one of the better younger players
- Welsh kicked 1.3 in a game which had only 13 goals
- Williams is still 2-3 weeks away

What is William's injury? I hope he isn't going to spend his whole career in and out with injuries. I have huge hopes for him this year.

[hujsh]

What is William's injury? I hope he isn't going to spend his whole career in and out with injuries. I have huge hopes for him this year.

Well at least we do know he won't stuff up his foot again according to him.

[LostDoggy]

Was he! guys on this site are talking up brownlow smokey for COON, surely it wasn't the same amount of hype

Yeah he sure was. On the cover of a mag in the Hun. His Brownlow odds shortened to around the $50 mark IIRC. He was having a spotless PS up until he injured his thigh late in the NAB Cup and never fully recovered.

[LostDoggy]

I know it's only an intra club game, but from all reports Cooney was on fire.

I'm glad I took the 100-1 on him for the Brownlow back in December.


Now hes paying 126-1 :D might chuck $20 on myself..lose $20 or win $2500? hmm :cool:

[hujsh]

Yeah he sure was. On the cover of a mag in the Hun. His Brownlow odds shortened to around the $50 mark IIRC. He was having a spotless PS up until he injured his thigh late in the NAB Cup and never fully recovered.

Damn. I didn't even realize he did that injury. Good thing i have this forum now.

[Twodogs]

I know it's only an intra club game, but from all reports Cooney was on fire.

I'm glad I took the 100-1 on him for the Brownlow back in December.



Ok how much did you win?

[westdog54]

I'm more curious as to whether Alexxx took $20 at 126-1

[LostDoggy]

Now hes paying 126-1 :D might chuck $20 on myself..lose $20 or win $2500? hmm :cool:

OH MY GOD

WHY DID I NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS ONE.

WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING. "LOSE 20 OR WIN 2500" WHAT STOPPED ME PUTTING THAT ON :mad:

I DONT EVEN REMEMBER TYPING THIS

Im such a fool :D

[westdog54]

OH MY GOD

WHY DID I NOT GO AHEAD WITH THIS ONE.

WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING. "LOSE 20 OR WIN 2500" WHAT STOPPED ME PUTTING THAT ON :mad:

I DONT EVEN REMEMBER TYPING THIS

Im such a fool :D

YOU FOOL! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozEIsWWngJo)

[aker39]

Ok how much did you win?


$1,000