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Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
12-04-2019, 07:33 PM
This is the round 4, 2019 edition of the weekly Bankers and Anchors thread. Once the game against Collingwood is concluded post your nominations for:

The Bankers = 3 guys/aspects of the game that we banked on to do the right thing during the game
The Anchors = 3 guys/aspects of the game that weighed us down by their errors or poor play

Please limit it to no more than three of each player or aspect of the game, but feel free to make honourable/dishonourable mentions. As usual try to make it constructive criticism.

Try and restrict it to individual players rather than aspects of the overall match - I will allow more freedom now as the thread seems to be going down more of the aspects of the game path so you can have 3 for each made up of aspects of the game and individual players.

The thread is named in honour of a popular WOOF Contributor, The Banker, who passed away on 22/04/2012 after a six month battle with cancer.

GVGjr
12-04-2019, 09:45 PM
Bump

bulldogtragic
12-04-2019, 10:18 PM
B

Crozier - our best medium/tall defender
Lloyd - hit the scoreboard
Bonts - that third quarter was huge
Naughton - that third quarter

A

Naughton touching the ball as it was sailing in for a goal.
Turnovers.
Burning shots at goal for fun.

Remi Moses
12-04-2019, 11:20 PM
B - Naughton , just brilliant
- The Bont , Just consistencely great
- The mids considering we get monstered in the middle they did exceptionally well
A- Turnovers killed us again
- Gowers and Schache just not doing enough
- I think we need a bigger body in the ruck . Reckon Tim’s going to be a top ruck , but he’s just so light on

merantau
13-04-2019, 06:34 AM
Bankers
1. Naughton is a great contested mark.
2 English has all the attributes of a good player - he just needs to believe it and we will real the dividends for years to come.
3 Bailey Smith is another who will be a 200 gamer.
Anchors.
1. Our delivery inside 50
2. Our goal kicking
3 Our turnovers.
3

SonofScray
13-04-2019, 07:07 AM
B1
That goal from Smith was electrifying. His miss, later in the game would have been The Moment IMO. He is gaining momentum.

B2
The Specky Show from Naughty and Crozier. Honestly, took the edge off the loss. How many times in your life have you seen multiple screamers in a game from our players? It was unprecedented.

B3
Bont. Handball, vision and calm under pressure. 3 votes in a losing side I suspect.

A1
Gowers. A non contributor, passenger riding shotgun all night. Time for Lippa or Greene. Fair dinkum Gilly, lay a tackle, pick a fight, disrupt things, just don't be a pylon.

A2
Economy. Ratio of I50 to scores still a big factor in the loss. Pies always looked like taking the game away from us because we never sustained any meaningful scoreboard pressure. The last 5 minutes was our issue writ large and in reverse as Collingwood walked a few in.

A3
Convinced Suckling was robbed of a goal.

Bulldog4life
13-04-2019, 11:54 AM
B

Crozier - The current mark of the year. Spectacular.
Naughty - 19 yo key forward who we can build our forward line around.
Suckling. Another consistent game.

A

Like Bevo said the ball that Naughty touched was behind the line .
Umpire - Shocking non decision re: Dickson in the back.
You can't win when 2 or 3 forwards don't contribute.

ratsmac
13-04-2019, 12:26 PM
Bankers

1. Crozier. I am definitely eating my words with this guy. I couldn't see the appeal of another smallish defender when we had quite a few already when we recruited him. He was brilliant last night. He played tight, defended in the air, run off his man at the right times, good disposal, ran hard both ways, 1%ers. He was everything you would want from a defender last night. And THAT mark, wow!!! 100% banker.

2. Bontempelli. He is showing the social media flogs of this world that he is not overrated at all. In fact he is very worthy to be rated in the top 4 midfielders of the comp conversation. I've seen him play some sheer brilliant games over his short career but last night he was workman like with flashes of his normal flare. He is 99% the complete footballer the only blemish at the moment is his conversion. How unlucky is he hitting the post as much as he does though.

3. Cordy's spoil. I can't remember what quarter but he was terribly out of position running with the flight of the ball with the Collingwood player in prime position to take a textbook mark and he somehow spoils the ball and creates enough time for help to arrive. Saves a certain goal. Well done Zaine.

Anchors

1. Obviously Schache. Statue. Barely made any meaningful leads all night and was terrible in the air. He could of at least applied some f50 pressure, nope, zero tackles. C'mon shack, you're better than that.

2. Obviously Gowers. For a bloke with the physical attributes that he has and the marking strength he has, he was trying to hang out the back of the packs all night for the cheapy over that back. It's OK to do if you are smart enough to read if the ball is going over the top but Billy boy you ain't smart enough yet. Play in front and lead hard and create movement is all we needed. And goals.

3. Corridor turn overs. FMD Bruce, it's the same thing every week. I understand the risk for reward but we must execute much much better if this is the game plan.

bornadog
13-04-2019, 12:34 PM
Bankers

1. Crozier mark of the century :)
2. Naughton third quarter marking
3. Bont - What a star.

Anchors

1. Turnovers by Wood, Libba a Daniel
2. AFL - fixturing us with a 5 day break, can't they get it right
3. Crucial umpiring - Goal not given, and Cox mark that was taken out of Crozier's hands giving them the lead

Eastdog
13-04-2019, 03:17 PM
Bankers:

1. Marcus Bontempelli - 36 disposals been excellent so far this year and will be in the running for the B&F again I expect. Just needs to get some more goals then he will be even greater.

2. Hayden Crozier - Really liked his game last night and is a really good defender. Excellent mark! Our defence I reckon general this year has been good.

3. Bailey Smith - kicked a great goal and has a great future ahead.


Anchors:

1. Our general skill level well down Pies skill not much better. Need to use the footy better.

2. Not taking our oppotinities when we get it up forward. Just need to keep going and do better.

3. Libba turnover in the 3rd quarter which gifted them a goal. Otherwise Libba has been very good this year.

S Coast Simon
13-04-2019, 03:47 PM
B Bont did some u believable handballs last night. He should definitely be in the discussion of the best in the Como. Some of those even the players didn’t see it was happening. Disposal around the ground is first class as well

B I was a Naughton forward sceptic. Couldn’t see the point of robbing Peter. But holy shit the boy loves to have a jump at it. The mark from four deep was epic. Live his set shot kicking dead straight. Who would have thought that kicking action would be perfect for in front of goal.

B Crozier was awesome last night. He threw himself at everything. Like someone already pointed out his 1%ers were so important


A not looking properly at the one Naughton touched. I really thought he was behind the line. And the mark to Cox at a critical time was very painful to take.

A The boys getting pinged in the back fifty. Ie Wood and Daniel. They looked to give up half way through the turn. At least handball it away. Get done for deliberate out or something rather than give it up right there

A. Agree that Gowers could at least be hitting boys with some hard tackles or bumps. At the very least you could be hurting the opposition ( legally of course). If your not getting it you can still hit hard and make them nervous. He should be protecting the boys out there and making the opposition nervous on the loose ball in our forward line

Bulldog4life
13-04-2019, 06:21 PM
Bankers

1. Crozier mark of the century :)
2. Naughton third quarter marking
3. Bont - What a star.

Anchors

1. Turnovers by Wood, Libba a Daniel
2. AFL - fixturing us with a 5 day break, can't they get it right
3. Crucial umpiring - Goal not given, and Cox mark that was taken out of Crozier's hands giving them the lead

If we had to have a 5 day break the AFL should have made certain that Collingwood played on a Sunday too round 3.

Dancin' Douggy
13-04-2019, 08:24 PM
Bankers.

1. Tim English.
I feel like a captain sailing through a storm. The wind is rising, the swell is getting nasty with an unpredictable side chop, and there's no safe harbour in sight, the motley crew are on the verge of mutiny, perhaps even cannibalism.......... but I'm gritting my teeth and holding firm to the rudder, holding my course through the teeth of the gale because I know, I just know the treasure is worth the journey.

Tim English was beaten in the ruck by a seasoned, All Australian, Best and fairest winning, powerful ruckman in his prime.
Tim English has played 13 games. 13 freaking games. But anyone, seriously, who knows anything about football...........COME ON!! The way the kid moves.........how clean and neat he is below his knees......how seamlessly he involves himself in passages of play and what a balanced and neat kicking style he has. And how he never, ever, ever gave up, or stopped trying. Heart of a lion, and he's 205cm!

I wish we still had Roughead on our list to partner English through this year....I feel Tim has been thrown in to the front line a year too early, but next year and from then on.......Tim English will be phenomenal.

I would offer him a 4/5/6 year deal right now. For all those peanuts out there saying he is useless on the back of that game........you know NOTHING about football or seafaring. NOTHING John Snow.

2. Crozier.
His second efforts are nothing short of miraculous. He takes Mark of the year and then runs half the length of the ground to try and spoil a mark in the back pocket less than a minute later. I totally takes my hat off to him. He almost reminds me of Dale Morris at times with his selfless attack on the ball. Seems to play with NO EGO despite his prodigious aerial talents.
I love him.
I bend the knee.

3. MCG.
I just love that big open sky on a Friday night. The atmosphere.......the sound...
There are some things that are better at docklands maybe, but that magical MCG power is undeniable.
It is our Colosseum. Our Stonehenge. Our great pyramid.
Our KIng's landing.


Anchors.

Well.......this has been coming for a while.

1. Dunkley's kicking. It's a handicap we have to carry. The modern game punishes you so hard with a sloppy kick across half back.. or in any transitional play..........and this is an accumulative anchor I suppose.........but I have come to dread the ball in Dunkley's hands. I know he's not the only guilty party........... but nevertheless...... we are so easy to score against because the opposition just sets up for our turnovers. You can see them licking their lips when Dunkley gets the ball.
I actually love the kid and what he brings but we need to address this problem somehow............I know he's not the only offender out there but still, we can't hide them all in the forward pocket. I know people will say he wasn't too bad in this particular game..........but this is an anchor that has been forged over the first 4 games of the year.

2. The forward line coach. Yes I should do my research and find out who it is but..................meh.........
We have a forward line stacked with talent who all fly for the same mark against each other, don't create space for someone else to lead into. All clog up the pockets and flanks instead of opening one out. Our 'crumbers' fly in the pack with our talls............we are totally and utterly unorganised in the forward line.
so.............OUR FORWARD LINE COACH GETS AN ANCHOR.

3. Libba's kick across the halfback line. You know the one.

Ghost Dog
14-04-2019, 02:37 AM
Bankers
Tory Dickson 100 games
Tim English for sticking at it
Bailey Smith for his first goal
Midfield for an amazing job given our ruck situation

Anchors
Score review
Shack and BGowers

Ghost Dog
14-04-2019, 02:46 AM
B

Crozier - The current mark of the year. Spectacular.
Naughty - 19 yo key forward who we can build our forward line around.
Suckling. Another consistent game.

A

Like Bevo said the ball that Naughty touched was behind the line .
Umpire - Shocking non decision re: Dickson in the back.
You can't win when 2 or 3 forwards don't contribute.

Holy Moly is he only 19??? What a gigantus boy, and he's OURS! Oh Joy.

bulldogsthru&thru
14-04-2019, 08:05 AM
Bankers.

1. Tim English.
I feel like a captain sailing through a storm. The wind is rising, the swell is getting nasty with an unpredictable side chop, and there's no safe harbour in sight, the motley crew are on the verge of mutiny, perhaps even cannibalism.......... but I'm gritting my teeth and holding firm to the rudder, holding my course through the teeth of the gale because I know, I just know the treasure is worth the journey.

Tim English was beaten in the ruck by a seasoned, All Australian, Best and fairest winning, powerful ruckman in his prime.
Tim English has played 13 games. 13 freaking games. But anyone, seriously, who knows anything about football...........COME ON!! The way the kid moves.........how clean and neat he is below his knees......how seamlessly he involves himself in passages of play and what a balanced and neat kicking style he has. And how he never, ever, ever gave up, or stopped trying. Heart of a lion, and he's 205cm!

I wish we still had Roughead on our list to partner English through this year....I feel Tim has been thrown in to the front line a year too early, but next year and from then on.......Tim English will be phenomenal.

I would offer him a 4/5/6 year deal right now. For all those peanuts out there saying he is useless on the back of that game........you know NOTHING about football or seafaring. NOTHING John Snow.

2. Crozier.
His second efforts are nothing short of miraculous. He takes Mark of the year and then runs half the length of the ground to try and spoil a mark in the back pocket less than a minute later. I totally takes my hat off to him. He almost reminds me of Dale Morris at times with his selfless attack on the ball. Seems to play with NO EGO despite his prodigious aerial talents.
I love him.
I bend the knee.

3. MCG.
I just love that big open sky on a Friday night. The atmosphere.......the sound...
There are some things that are better at docklands maybe, but that magical MCG power is undeniable.
It is our Colosseum. Our Stonehenge. Our great pyramid.
Our KIng's landing.


Anchors.

Well.......this has been coming for a while.

1. Dunkley's kicking. It's a handicap we have to carry. The modern game punishes you so hard with a sloppy kick across half back.. or in any transitional play..........and this is an accumulative anchor I suppose.........but I have come to dread the ball in Dunkley's hands. I know he's not the only guilty party........... but nevertheless...... we are so easy to score against because the opposition just sets up for our turnovers. You can see them licking their lips when Dunkley gets the ball.
I actually love the kid and what he brings but we need to address this problem somehow............I know he's not the only offender out there but still, we can't hide them all in the forward pocket. I know people will say he wasn't too bad in this particular game..........but this is an anchor that has been forged over the first 4 games of the year.

2. The forward line coach. Yes I should do my research and find out who it is but..................meh.........
We have a forward line stacked with talent who all fly for the same mark against each other, don't create space for someone else to lead into. All clog up the pockets and flanks instead of opening one out. Our 'crumbers' fly in the pack with our talls............we are totally and utterly unorganised in the forward line.
so.............OUR FORWARD LINE COACH GETS AN ANCHOR.

3. Libba's kick across the halfback line. You know the one.

The forward line. How on earth has that been happening for 4 years without being addressed.

Twodogs
14-04-2019, 11:53 AM
The forward line. How on earth has that been happening for 4 years without being addressed.


And the most annoying thing about it is that it's relatively simple to fix. Give me the worst kick on the list for 15 minutes and I guarantee that I will at least improve his accuracy at set shots. I cant see that any of our players have a routine when it comes to set shots, most of them just wander in from any old angle spinning the ball in their hands, they lean back as they take the shot and they lift their head as the ball strikes their boot.

If you wanted to show somebody how exactly not to take a set shot then you could just show them vision of any of our forwards except for Josh Schache. I was hoping that over summer some of our players or coaches would notice what a beautiful fluid set shot Josh is and maybe aspire to do the same but sadly not. I don't know what they do with all their time as professional footballers but it's certainly not working on their skills otherwise we wouldn't be going into this year with the same problems that were glaringly obvious 5 years ago.

Remi Moses
14-04-2019, 12:25 PM
I think we should just cut and paste the forward 50 debacle

kruder
14-04-2019, 12:33 PM
I think we should just cut and paste the forward 50 debacle

It's just bizarre we haven't tried to bring in someone new coaching wise to give a new perspective on things. 2015 feels long ago thats for sure, Its still my fav home and away season ever we were so good to watch.

whythelongface
15-04-2019, 11:25 AM
B

1. Cordy - Zaine has flown under the radar week in week out. Think he has been doing a great job. In fact our defence for the most part has been really good with scores against being 78, 73, 87 and 65 our defence is standing the test.

2. Bont - he is taking his game to a new level. Has been absolutely sensational. Just nail those shots

3. Crozier - his body work is fantastic. He is able to position himself in a contest and use his body to take a mark.

A
1. Forward line and forward entries - disappointing - same story every week. Teams seem to be able to flood our defensive fwd 50 and rebound very quickly. Iron this part of our game out and we will be top 4.

2. Gowers and Schache - 2nd efforts and tackling. If you are not making an impact on the score get yourself into the game.

3. Rucking - i know we negated the impact in terms of winning the contested ball, but we need to help Tim. He is going to be a star and this is great for his development. Reckon we could of gone in with Trengove as well to assist. maybe this is a banker for the MC