Recent Moneyball Trading

[bulldogtragic]

Since 2015 (4 trading periods):

Suckling - Free Agent
Cloke - Pick 76 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Crozier & future 4th - 40 & 82 (which was not going to be used), so effectivly Crozier & future 4th rounder for pick 40
Trengove - Free Agent
Schache - Picks 25 and 40
Lloyd - Pick 64 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Duryea - Likely pick 62

Ins: Suckling, Cloke, Crozier & Future 4th, Trengove, Schache, Lloyd, Duryea
Outs: (Picks 82*, 76*, 64*) Picks 62, 40, 40 & 25 (* picks not going to be used by us)

All bar Cloke (so 6 players) have played many to all games this year. I know the footy media generally ignores the good things we do, but the last four years our list management team have identified a lot of very capable players for next to nothing. That's as a good a job as any club in the last four years I'd imagine.

[Bulldog4life]

Since 2015 (4 trading periods):

Suckling - Free Agent
Cloke - Pick 76 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Crozier & future 4th - 40 & 82 (which was not going to be used), so effectivly Crozier & future 4th rounder for pick 40
Trengove - Free Agent
Schache - Picks 25 and 40
Lloyd - Pick 64 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Duryea - Likely pick 62

Ins: Suckling, Cloke, Crozier & Future 4th, Trengove, Schache, Lloyd, Duryea
Outs: (Picks 82*, 76*, 64*) Picks 62, 40, 40 & 25 (* picks not going to be used by us)

All bar Cloke (so 6 players) have played many to all games this year. I know the footy media generally ignores the good things we do, but the last four years our list management team have identified a lot of very capable players for next to nothing. That's as a good a job as any club in the last four years I'd imagine.

Great post BT and I agree with you 100%. We have done extremely well choosing these players without giving much away.

[Topdog]

Yep been an extremely effective way of building the list.

[bornadog]

Should we continue on this path, or throw some big dollars at an A grader.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Should we continue on this path, or throw some big dollars at an A grader.

We do have the money, so yes. But it needs to be someone who is really going to bring a point of difference.
I wouldn't be chasing big bodied midfielders.

An A grade small forward and/or an A grade Key defender would be on my shopping list.

[bulldogtragic]

Should we continue on this path, or throw some big dollars at an A grader.

I think we’ve built a very good foundation with these guys and our good drafting. Now it’s time build up with lots of money and picks. If we can get 2-4 talented experienced players added with the growth of young players, then finals next year is on the cards.

[Eastdog]

Since 2015 (4 trading periods):

Suckling - Free Agent
Cloke - Pick 76 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Crozier & future 4th - 40 & 82 (which was not going to be used), so effectivly Crozier & future 4th rounder for pick 40
Trengove - Free Agent
Schache - Picks 25 and 40
Lloyd - Pick 64 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Duryea - Likely pick 62

Ins: Suckling, Cloke, Crozier & Future 4th, Trengove, Schache, Lloyd, Duryea
Outs: (Picks 82*, 76*, 64*) Picks 62, 40, 40 & 25 (* picks not going to be used by us)

All bar Cloke (so 6 players) have played many to all games this year. I know the footy media generally ignores the good things we do, but the last four years our list management team have identified a lot of very capable players for next to nothing. That's as a good a job as any club in the last four years I'd imagine.

We have done a very good job. Been some very good acquisitions.

[ledge]

Lloyd a great moneyball.
Duryea under rated.
The best move they made, managers did a great job on both sides.

[bulldogtragic]

Since 2015 (4 trading periods):

Suckling - Free Agent
Cloke - Pick 76 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Crozier & future 4th - 40 & 82 (which was not going to be used), so effectivly Crozier & future 4th rounder for pick 40
Trengove - Free Agent
Schache - Picks 25 and 40
Lloyd - Pick 64 (which was not going to be used, so effectivly a Free Agent)
Duryea - Likely pick 62

Ins: Suckling, Cloke, Crozier & Future 4th, Trengove, Schache, Lloyd, Duryea
Outs: (Picks 82*, 76*, 64*) Picks 62, 40, 40 & 25 (* picks not going to be used by us)

All bar Cloke (so 6 players) have played many to all games this year. I know the footy media generally ignores the good things we do, but the last four years our list management team have identified a lot of very capable players for next to nothing. That's as a good a job as any club in the last four years I'd imagine.

The next closest team to us over this period using the money ball style trading strategy happened to play in the Grand Final last year, Collingwood. Although they've also thrown three first rounders in the period at Treloar & Beams.

Ins: Aish, Mayne, Wells, Roughead, Hoskin-Elliott, Dunn (virtually free), Howe (player trade), Sam Murray (swaps)
Outs: Pick 75, Future Pick 33, Future Pick 29, Pick 26, player trade, swaps


Ins: Suckling, Cloke, Crozier & Future 4th, Trengove, Schache, Lloyd, Duryea
Outs: (Picks 82*, 76*, 64*) Picks 62, 40, 40 & 25 (* picks not going to be used by us)


I think both clubs have done well. Being completely one eyed, I'd say we are the best in the business at finding good talent for little outlay.

[ledge]

The next closest team to us over this period using the money ball style trading strategy happened to play in the Grand Final last year, Collingwood. Although they've also thrown three first rounders in the period at Treloar & Beams.

Ins: Aish, Mayne, Wells, Roughead, Hoskin-Elliott, Dunn (virtually free), Howe (player trade), Sam Murray (swaps)
Outs: Pick 75, Future Pick 33, Future Pick 29, Pick 26, player trade, swaps


Ins: Suckling, Cloke, Crozier & Future 4th, Trengove, Schache, Lloyd, Duryea
Outs: (Picks 82*, 76*, 64*) Picks 62, 40, 40 & 25 (* picks not going to be used by us)


I think both clubs have done well. Being completely one eyed, I'd say we are the best in the business at finding good talent for little outlay.

Be interesting to know who the worst team is , at a glance I would say Essendon, spent a lot and not a good return yet.

[Twodogs]

Be interesting to know who the worst team is , at a glance I would say Essendon, spent a lot and not a good return yet.

Yep. They keep recruiting players by name and not need too. Stringer looks great on the odd occasion that the whole "grab the ball and bomb it out of the centre square' thing comes off but they still haven't got the players with leg speed they need. It's great that they win the trade period every year.

[Eastdog]

Lloyd a great moneyball.
Duryea under rated.
The best move they made, managers did a great job on both sides.

Out of the two Lloyd has been better but I have enjoyed Duryea games recently. He has been quite good.

[1eyedog]

Crozier has had a better year than all of them. Has become twice the player he was at Freo.

[hujsh]

Be interesting to know who the worst team is , at a glance I would say Essendon, spent a lot and not a good return yet.
As is often the case, probably Carlton. Not many fringe players go to Carlton for cheap and get better

[bulldogtragic]

As is often the case, probably Carlton. Not many fringe players go to Carlton for cheap and get better

I think you're right. Just off the top of my head: Tutt, Lobbe, Palmer, Jaksch, a heap of ex GWS players.

[Ghost Dog]

Be interesting to know who the worst team is , at a glance I would say Essendon, spent a lot and not a good return yet.

Did you see the article in the Hun about Roughy? He got concussed and though he was playing for us still. Kept going on about Bevo. Poor bloke.

For 30+ goals a season, Lloyd at 64 is outstanding.

[Vred]

We do have the money, so yes. But it needs to be someone who is really going to bring a point of difference.
I wouldn't be chasing big bodied midfielders.

An A grade small forward and/or an A grade Key defender would be on my shopping list.

Resign Bailey Dale and play him as a Dicko replacement when he retires.
Throw all the money behind a grade A key defender.

Our forward line might of been a mess at the start of this season but now I see what we have building, Lloyd, Schache, Naughton, Dickson, Dale, I feel we lack most in defense, specially with Morris gone for at minimum, 12 months to forever.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Resign Bailey Dale and play him as a Dicko replacement when he retires.
Throw all the money behind a grade A key defender.

Totally agree. Interesting that we have been linked to Alex Keith and Darcy Moore as possible targets. It’s an interesting one as Keith would be running out of Adelaide and Moore would cost far more. I think Moore is flashily and would be a promoters dream but I feel Keith at 28 is more like what we are looking for with Bulldog values. With is less of a risk assembly as Moore is injury prone.

We have also been linked to Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti if true that would be a good get and maybe Wallis as a swap would work out as they have shown interest before in him. Essendon are very hard to deal with and maybe this is a project for a Brett Goode’s to land.

[Vred]

Totally agree. Interesting that we have been linked to Alex Keith and Darcy Moore as possible targets. It’s an interesting one as Keith would be running out of Adelaide and Moore would cost far more. I think Moore is flashily and would be a promoters dream but I feel Keith at 28 is more like what we are looking for with Bulldog values. With is less of a risk assembly as Moore is injury prone.

We have also been linked to Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti if true that would be a good get and maybe Wallis as a swap would work out as they have shown interest before in him. Essendon are very hard to deal with and maybe this is a project for a Brett Goode’s to land.

I've watched all the Essendon games this year.. I don't rate Tipungwuti - his got some tricks but really his had some super flat spells as well, I honestly think retaining Dale and keeping the Naughton / Schache / Dale / West / Lloyd forward line and working on that is a huge plus.

Again, have also been (Forced) to watch all the Collingwood games this year, I'd take Darcy Moore over Keith any day. Moore is a really, really solid backman in ever sense of the word.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Again, have also been (Forced) to watch all the Collingwood games this year, I'd take Darcy Moore over Keith any day. Moore is a really, really solid backman in ever sense of the word.

Ok well let’s go get him. It looks like he was out of favour with Bucks a while ago do hopefully he needs a change and wants to play for Bevo.

[AshMac]

I’d be happy with either Keith or Moore.

Moore’s injuries are a worry as he’ll cost a fortune to pry out of the pies - not in love with blokes who have continuous injuries in the same part of the body. Having said this, Wood has managed to keep his hammy a under control and I understand there is a lot that can be done to prevent the soft tissue injuries.

Here’s an interesting one - Dons are red hot on JJ, were anyway. Would you consider a straight swap for Tippa?

[comrade]

Here’s an interesting one - Dons are red hot on JJ, were anyway. Would you consider a straight swap for Tippa?

Not in a million years.

[Twodogs]

I’d be happy with either Keith or Moore.

Moore’s injuries are a worry as he’ll cost a fortune to pry out of the pies - not in love with blokes who have continuous injuries in the same part of the body. Having said this, Wood has managed to keep his hammy a under control and I understand there is a lot that can be done to prevent the soft tissue injuries.

Here’s an interesting one - Dons are red hot on JJ, were anyway. Would you consider a straight swap for Tippa?

No. JJ has proven he can perform on the biggest stage in the game. Tippa struggles with consistency. In all reality Tippa is worth no more than a second rounder, maybe.

[Bulldog Joe]

Here’s an interesting one - Dons are red hot on JJ, were anyway. Would you consider a straight swap for Tippa?

Essendon have since added Saad and McKenna.
Don't see how they could accommodate JJ as well.

[AshMac]

Liam Pickering in SEN this morning confirmed there has been zero dialogue with the dogs on Moore.

Grain of salt this time of year from agents...

[AshMac]

Essendon have since added Saad and McKenna.
Don't see how they could accommodate JJ as well.

Yes, forgot about Saad

[Danjul]

No. JJ has proven he can perform on the biggest stage in the game. Tippa struggles with consistency. In all reality Tippa is worth no more than a second rounder, maybe.

Play to their skills. JJ is our best runner and good long kick. I don’t want to see him under packs and I don’t want to see him in other colours. If we had a genuine CHB JJ would look twice as good.