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Axe Man
15-08-2019, 10:49 AM
Head Coach - Luke Beveridge: 2025
National Recruiting Manager - Dom Milesi: ?
General Manager of List and Recruiting - Sam Power: ?
Contracted Players = 43 (36 Primary List, 6 Category A Rookies, 1 Category B Rookie)
Open List Spots = 0
*Free Agent
Bailey Smith: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1193536/)
Riley Garcia: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1210741/exciting-quartet-sign-on-at-bulldogs)
Jason Johannisen: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1229243/)*
Charlie Clarke: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1253024/2022-afl-draft-pick-24-charlie-clarke)
Alex Keath: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1387262/keath-extends-until-2024)
Dominic Bedendo: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1459925/bedendo-remains-in-red-white-and-blue)
Lachie McNeil: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1468140/duryea-mcneil-remain-at-the-kennel) (Rookie)*
Taylor Duryea: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1468140/duryea-mcneil-remain-at-the-kennel) (Rookie)*
Kelsey Rypstra: 2024 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1566509/bulldogs-select-kelsey-rypstra-in-2024-mid-season-draft) (Rookie)
Adam Treloar: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/835833/bulldogs-snare-treloar-retain-dunkley)
Marcus Bontempelli: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/944954/bontempelli-signs-four-year-deal)
Liam Jones: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1232929/jones-returns-home-to-the-kennel)
Sam Darcy: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1280147/darcy-continues-red-white-and-blue-legacy)
Ed Richards: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1299649)
Luke Cleary: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1300440)
Arthur Jones: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1311259/jones-remains-in-red-white-and-blue)
Laitham Vandermeer: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1352415/vandermeer-remains-at-the-kennel)
Oskar Baker: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1378335/baker-to-stay-a-bulldog) (Rookie)
Anthony Scott: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1400654/scott-remains-a-bulldog)
James O’Donnell: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1406616/odonnell-signs-for-two-seasons) (Rookie)
Caleb Poulter: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1423303/two-more-years-for-poulter) (Rookie)
Nick Coffield: 2025
Lachlan Smith: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1467839/2023-afl-draft-pick-47-lachlan-smith)
Tom Liberatore: 2025 (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1100157/western-bulldogs-hard-nut-tom-liberatore-inks-one-year-contract-extension)
Lachlan Bramble: 2025 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1576978/gallagher-bramble-remain-at-bulldogs) (Rookie)
Caleb Daniel: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1149571/daniel-inks-four-year-deal)
Ryan Gardner: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1268746/gardner-remains-in-red-white-and-blue)
Rory Lobb: 2026 (https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-2024-jamarra-uglehagan-lifetime-offers-from-rival-clubs-12year-deals-western-bulldogs-trade-news-rumours-whispers-tim-english-rory-lobb-bailey-smith-latest/news-story/b0cb306d5e7de3d42a0153e0e3344e99)
James Harmes: 2026 (https://www.afl.com.au/news/1051695/melbourne-demons-premiership-player-james-harmes-asks-for-trade-to-western-bulldogs)
Ryley Sanders: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1467058/ryley-sanders)
Jordan Croft: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1467055/jordan-croft)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1548796/ugle-hagan-remains-in-red-white-and-blue)
Harvey Gallagher: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1576978/gallagher-bramble-remain-at-bulldogs)
Rhylee West: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1585754/west-continues-bulldogs-legacy)
Jedd Busslinger: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1596788/busslinger-in-red-white-and-blue-until-2026)
Joel Freijah: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1622549/freijah-rewarded-with-new-deal)
Buku Khamis: 2026 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1651999/khamis-commits-to-the-kennel)
Jack Macrae: 2027 (https://www.afl.com.au/news/724367/jack-macrae-a-western-bulldog-for-life-after-signing-a-whopping-five-year-contract-extension)
Bailey Dale: 2027 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1150119/dale-signs-on-for-five-years)
Bailey Williams: 2027 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1423547/bailey-williams-extends-for-four-years)
Cody Weightman: 2027 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1591662/weightman-signs-on-until-2027)
Tim English: 2029 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1628298/english-pledges-future-to-the-bulldogs)
Aaron Naughton: 2032 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1446687/naughton-a-bulldog-for-life)
Axe Man
15-08-2019, 10:51 AM
This is the new thread for all things Western Bulldogs Player Contract related. Updated for the re-signing of Rhylee West.
Thanks to BT for maintaining this over the last few years.
Mods - can you please sticky this thread and un-sticky the old one.
Axe Man
15-08-2019, 10:51 AM
West re-signs for two more (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-08-15/west-resigns-for-two-more?fbclid=IwAR10ihTVX91PaUuu1oXgonP5bmJd_YVX8fjHJLMlBf_n9c L5IGBMhGd8HbA)
Exciting first-year player Rhylee West has re-signed with the Western Bulldogs for two more seasons.
The 19-year-old – who was due to come out of contract at the end of 2020 – will now remain in red, white and blue until at least the end of 2022.
“I think we’re building something special in this playing group and I couldn’t miss the opportunity to be a part of it,” West said.
“I feel like I’ve been able to play some strong footy in the VFL and then to make my AFL debut against Fremantle was an amazing feeling.
“We’ve got a great bunch of boys here and I can’t wait for the next three years.”
West made his AFL debut against Fremantle in round 19, collecting 14 disposals and kicking a goal.
He has spent time in the midfield and up forward at VFL level for Footscray, averaging 20 disposals across his 14 games – including a 29-disposal, four-goal game last week against Essendon.
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said West had a bright future.
“Rhylee has really grown since joining the Club and it’s pleasing to lock him in for two more years,” Power said.
“He is competitive and hard at the ball, with the ability to burst away from stoppages. As a forward, he has also been able to provide pressure and impact the scoreboard.
“Rhylee handled himself really well in his first taste of AFL football, and has been strong at VFL level throughout the season.
“We’re excited about what he can produce in the years to come.”
West joined the Bulldogs with pick 26 in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft and is one of five father-son draftees on the Club’s list, alongside Lachie Hunter, Mitch Wallis, Tom Liberatore and Zaine Cordy.
He becomes the 14th player to re-sign at VU Whitten Oval in 2019.
bornadog
15-08-2019, 10:52 AM
Great start Axe Man you have your first signing :)
Twodogs
15-08-2019, 11:31 AM
Various threads stuck and unstuck. Should I import a few of the old posts from the old thread? A few asked questions that hadn't been answered.
Great news on West, Sam doing a great job so far.
Hope the club have an announcement on re-signing Bailey Dale very soon.
IMO Dicko to get another year on recent form and that will be about it.
Happy Days
15-08-2019, 11:55 AM
So by my count that’s 6 delistings/retirements (Webb, Roberts, Morris, Williams, Boyd, Picken; Williams possibly to the RL although you’d think he’ll get a better offer elsewhere). Is that enough room for our draft intake plus all these other guys we’re allegedly taking on, or does a hard call need to be made on Dicko?
We could be in a bit of a jam if all these offers are legit and we’re more of a destination club than we think we are.
Axe Man
15-08-2019, 12:09 PM
Various threads stuck and unstuck. Should I import a few of the old posts from the old thread? A few asked questions that hadn't been answered.
As far as the questions over Buku go I am going to go with a standard 1 year rookie contract until the end of 2019 until someone can point me in the direction of evidence to the contrary.
The Doctor
15-08-2019, 12:26 PM
Nice work Axe and a great first up signing. You and Sam are doing a great job
bornadog
15-08-2019, 12:44 PM
As far as the questions over Buku go I am going to go with a standard 1 year rookie contract until the end of 2019 until someone can point me in the direction of evidence to the contrary.
According to this (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-western-bulldogs--buku-khamis) he only has a one year contract
Other players are also listed here (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/out_of_contract_players) although not right up to date with latest signings.
I would love to see Baily Smith extended further.
(https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/out_of_contract_players)
Twodogs
15-08-2019, 12:46 PM
So by my count that’s 6 delistings/retirements (Webb, Roberts, Morris, Williams, Boyd, Picken; Williams possibly to the RL although you’d think he’ll get a better offer elsewhere). Is that enough room for our draft intake plus all these other guys we’re allegedly taking on, or does a hard call need to be made on Dicko?
We could be in a bit of a jam if all these offers are legit and we’re more of a destination club than we think we are.
I'd rather let a few players from other clubs down gently than constantly have them turn their backs on us.
Axe Man
15-08-2019, 01:26 PM
According to this (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-western-bulldogs--buku-khamis) he only has a one year contract
Other players are also listed here (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/out_of_contract_players) although not right up to date with latest signings.
I would love to see Baily Smith extended further.
(https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/out_of_contract_players)
Thanks BAD. I do refer to Zero Hanger and Footy Wire although I'm not sure they are 100% accurate (but then what source is?).
Not sure it was ever reported in the media. But you'll have to take my word for it - Buku has 2 years.
PM if you like Axe Man.
The Adelaide Connection
15-08-2019, 11:41 PM
18 players out of contract at the end of next year seems bloody scary on paper.
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more locked in, potentially at cheaper prices before we become the powerhouse of the competition and their stocks rise too much more (Schache, Bailey Smith, and Lloyd would have to be the highest priority).
azabob
16-08-2019, 09:46 AM
From the outside looking in it appears we will be conservative and have minimal list changes which is slightly disappointing.
azabob
16-08-2019, 09:48 AM
18 players out of contract at the end of next year seems bloody scary on paper.
I wouldn't mind seeing a few more locked in, potentially at cheaper prices before we become the powerhouse of the competition and their stocks rise too much more (Schache, Bailey Smith, and Lloyd would have to be the highest priority).
Im not too worried. It’s a lot, but not many must keeps.
Only Crozier, Schache and Bailey Smith are must keeps.
Mofra
16-08-2019, 10:01 AM
From the outside looking in it appears we will be conservative and have minimal list changes which is slightly disappointing.
Young list that are performing ahead of expectations in many respects, I wouldn't want too much movement. As long as we keep who we want to keep.
We'll lose nobody from our best 22 this season and add 1 or 2 into it for 2020, I'd say we're well positioned.
azabob
16-08-2019, 10:16 AM
Young list that are performing ahead of expectations in many respects, I wouldn't want too much movement. As long as we keep who we want to keep.
We'll lose nobody from our best 22 this season and add 1 or 2 into it for 2020, I'd say we're well positioned.
Good perspective Mofra.
I will be looking with interest who else we re-sign.
bornadog
16-08-2019, 10:18 AM
Young list that are performing ahead of expectations in many respects, I wouldn't want too much movement. As long as we keep who we want to keep.
We'll lose nobody from our best 22 this season and add 1 or 2 into it for 2020, I'd say we're well positioned.
Bevo really wants to hold the group together. Smart move if you have the right personnel, which I think we do. A couple of tweaks here and there and we can play finals for a few years.
GVGjr
16-08-2019, 07:57 PM
From the outside looking in it appears we will be conservative and have minimal list changes which is slightly disappointing.
Standard fare however, once the confusing selection process was sorted out we have played vastly better football which of course results in fewer list changes
Assuming we don't add Gardiner then potentially it's looking like Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Williams are unlikely to be playing next season and there might even be a question mark on Jong for next season and Dickson
Bumper Bulldogs
27-08-2019, 08:22 PM
Assuming we don't add Gardiner then potentially it's looking like Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Williams are unlikely to be playing next season and there might even be a question mark on Jong for next season and Dickson
I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyd, Pickin, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Jong all moved on. I still think that we will add Gardiner and keep Dickson & Williams for another year. That would be IMO a huge turn over of personal with such a young list. With all of these guys only playing a hand full of games between them we will miss nothing from turning them over.
bornadog
27-08-2019, 09:55 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Boyd, Pickin, Morris, Roberts, R. Smith, Webb and Jong all moved on. I still think that we will add Gardiner and keep Dickson & Williams for another year. That would be IMO a huge turn over of personal with such a young list. With all of these guys only playing a hand full of games between them we will miss nothing from turning them over.
According to Hun
BAILEY WILLIAMS (Western Bulldogs)
Talks will ramp up with his management next week but all signs are now pointing to him re-signing at the Kennel. Had been keen to assess whether he was part of the Dogs’ future after only nine games this year and none since round 17.
comrade
27-08-2019, 10:00 PM
Happy to keep Williams. He’s shown enough at the highest level to prove he has a place.
bulldogtragic
27-08-2019, 10:03 PM
That's an interesting turn around with Williams. He's not in a strong bargaining position salary wise. Maybe a two year extension on something like the money he is on.
If he and Dale sign we need 6 list movements out to cover three draft selections and three trades in:
1. Boyd
2. Picken
3. Morris (ret)
4. Webb
5. Roberts
6. Dickson or a contracted player traded or retired early
Throughandthrough
27-08-2019, 10:54 PM
I believe that Bailey Williams wants to stay at the dogs.
jeemak
27-08-2019, 11:18 PM
What do you mean he doesn't want to join the dumpster fire that is Adelaide, or not get paid playing at Port?
westbulldog
28-08-2019, 09:59 AM
Happy to keep Williams. He’s shown enough at the highest level to prove he has a place.
I agree, I think he has talent and should be retained.
Bulldog4life
28-08-2019, 11:50 AM
I think Williams' best footy is still in front of him. Would be a shame to lose him.
That's an interesting turn around with Williams. He's not in a strong bargaining position salary wise. Maybe a two year extension on something like the money he is on.
If he and Dale sign we need 6 list movements out to cover three draft selections and three trades in:
1. Boyd
2. Picken
3. Morris (ret)
4. Webb
5. Roberts
6. Dickson or a contracted player traded or retired early
I think Dicko may have shown enough for another season, I can see us moving on Jong.
choconmientay
28-08-2019, 03:49 PM
That's an interesting turn around with Williams. He's not in a strong bargaining position salary wise. Maybe a two year extension on something like the money he is on.
If he and Dale sign we need 6 list movements out to cover three draft selections and three trades in:
1. Boyd
2. Picken
3. Morris (ret)
4. Webb
5. Roberts
6. Dickson or a contracted player traded or retired early
Watching Williams at Footscray, he seemed to be happy and quite engaged. If a player is unhappy, the output even at VFL level wouldn't be any good but he is a class above.
If we need to roll-over more spots, do we need to look at the next tier of players and have them exploring opportunity somewhere else even if they have a contract for 2020?
These are players who are with us for few seasons already:
Billy Gowers: 2020 (Depth player)
Fergus Greene: 2020 (Where is he at now?)
Lin Jong: 2020 (Depth player)
Brad Lynch: 2020 (Where is he at now?)
Roarke Smith: 2019 (Rookie)
List management is a tough gig :(
jazzadogs
28-08-2019, 04:08 PM
We won passes to go in the rooms post-match early in the year, and I was interested in the psychology of the listed players who had not played. While almost all of them went and stood in a corner together, Morris, Trengrove and Williams walked straight over to the 22 and pulled up a seat with them. This showed me that they see themselves as best 22 senior players who shouldn't be lumped with the VFL crew.
I think Port and Crows are missing a trick if they're not approaching him, but I'll be glad if he stays.
hujsh
28-08-2019, 04:13 PM
Watching Williams at Footscray, he seemed to be happy and quite engaged. If a player is unhappy, the output even at VFL level wouldn't be any good but he is a class above.
If we need to roll-over more spots, do we need to look at the next tier of players and have them exploring opportunity somewhere else even if they have a contract for 2020?
These are players who are with us for few seasons already:
Billy Gowers: 2020 (Depth player)
Fergus Greene: 2020 (Where is he at now?)
Lin Jong: 2020 (Depth player)
Brad Lynch: 2020 (Where is he at now?)
Roarke Smith: 2019 (Rookie)
List management is a tough gig :(
I'd be looking to keep Fergus at this stage. Looked good and injury has been what's kept him out. The others I'd be more comfortable parting with
Mofra
28-08-2019, 04:25 PM
I'd be looking to keep Fergus at this stage. Looked good and injury has been what's kept him out. The others I'd be more comfortable parting with
Ditto. A guy who has shown he can contribute at AFL level just had his year wiped out by injury, and presumably he's on base salary.
bulldogtragic
28-08-2019, 04:30 PM
Ditto. A guy who has shown he can contribute at AFL level just had his year wiped out by injury, and presumably he's on base salary.
One of Lynch, Gowers or Jong might have some interest from elsewhere. If they got offered a two year deal I wouldn’t stand in their way. I don’t see any at the club after 2020 finishes. I’d rather look for trading in a best 22 player with that spot and reduce our back up depth fractionally.
bulldogtragic
29-08-2019, 05:50 PM
So Bailey Dale said he wants to extend his contract, with talks underway. Latest media word is Bailey Williams is likely to stay with an extended contract, working on it this week. Everyone wants Bailey Smith to extend his contract immediately too.
Here's hoping for a pre-finals Triple Baileys announcement. And Guinness book of world record for most Baileys re-signed at the same time by one professional sporting club.
ledge
30-08-2019, 04:40 AM
So Bailey Dale said he wants to extend his contract, with talks underway. Latest media word is Bailey Williams is likely to stay with an extended contract, working on it this week. Everyone wants Bailey Smith to extend his contract immediately too.
Here's hoping for a pre-finals Triple Baileys announcement. And Guinness book of world record for most Baileys re-signed at the same time by one professional sporting club.
Let’s all have a Baileys to celebrate national Bailey day.
bulldogtragic
30-08-2019, 12:18 PM
From the OP:
Bailey Williams: 2019 - apparently likely to stay
Bailey Dale: 2019 - states want to stay
Lukas Webb: 2019 - surely going
Fletcher Roberts: 2019 (FA) - surely going
Tory Dickson: 2019 (FA) - the interesting spot
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Roarke Smith: 2019 (Rookie) - surely going
Ryan Gardner: 2019 (Rookie) - who knows, I'd move him on
Buku Khamis: 2019 (Rookie) - 100% locked for next year
Three vacancies now (Morris, Picken & Boyd). Roberts & Webb make five vacancies. I'd like to see at lest one more open up.
comrade
30-08-2019, 12:24 PM
From the OP:
Bailey Williams: 2019 - apparently likely to stay
Bailey Dale: 2019 - states want to stay
Lukas Webb: 2019 - surely going
Fletcher Roberts: 2019 (FA) - surely going
Tory Dickson: 2019 (FA) - the interesting spot
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Roarke Smith: 2019 (Rookie) - surely going
Ryan Gardner: 2019 (Rookie) - who knows, I'd move him on
Buku Khamis: 2019 (Rookie) - 100% locked for next year
Three vacancies now (Morris, Picken & Boyd). Roberts & Webb make five vacancies. I'd like to see at lest one more open up.
We have to bring in 3 via the draft, so at this stage we can only trade in 2 which seems light on given all the conjecture so far out. Can definitely see some surprises happening on our end.
bulldogtragic
30-08-2019, 12:27 PM
We have to bring in 3 via the draft, so at this stage we can only trade in 2 which seems light on given all the conjecture so far out.
Exactly my point. I want to aim at 3 mature role players from trading. If Williams & Dale do sign. That leaves Dicko the only unsigned player on the main list to open up spot 6. So if we want to keep him for next year, we might need to offer up a fringe type for trade to open the spot. Three players could get some interest Jong (GCS previously), Lynch (North last year) or Gowers. So the question is of Dickson, Lynch, Gowers & Jong, which three would help us most next year?
Mofra
30-08-2019, 12:28 PM
Exactly my point. If Williams & Dale do sign. That leaves Dicko the only unsigned player on the min list. So if we want to keep him for next year, we might need to offer up a fringe type for trade to open the spot. Three players could get some interest Jong (GCS previously), Lynch (North last year) or Gowers. So the question is of Dickson, Lynch, Gowers & Jong, which three would help us most next year?
Gowers and Jong are contracted, but I feel Dickson would help us most. He's AFL standard and a beautiful set shot as well.
bulldogtragic
30-08-2019, 12:30 PM
Gowers and Jong are contracted, but I feel Dickson would help us most. He's AFL standard and a beautiful set shot as well.
That's why I suggested trading them.
comrade
30-08-2019, 12:32 PM
Exactly my point. If Williams & Dale do sign. That leaves Dicko the only unsigned player on the min list. So if we want to keep him for next year, we might need to offer up a fringe type for trade to open the spot. Three players could get some interest Jong (GCS previously), Lynch (North last year) or Gowers. So the question is of Dickson, Lynch, Gowers & Jong, which three would help us most next year?
I’d keep Dickson for one more year & look for homes for the other 3. Jong is miles back in the queue and might be over the footy grind altogether, Lynch has tricks but has stagnated badly and could do with a change of scene. Gowers provides us with depth but if we brought in Bruce, he’d be surplus.
What the hell are we going to do next year with 4+ NGA & F/S kids available?
bulldogtragic
30-08-2019, 12:41 PM
I’d keep Dickson for one more year & look for homes for the other 3. Jong is miles back in the queue and might be over the footy grind altogether, Lynch has tricks but has stagnated badly and could do with a change of scene. Gowers provides us with depth but if we brought in Bruce, he’d be surplus.
What the hell are we going to do next year with 4+ NGA & F/S kids available?
Points wise, or list wise?
comrade
30-08-2019, 12:46 PM
Points wise, or list wise?
List spots.
bulldogtragic
30-08-2019, 01:08 PM
List spots.
So four priority access players at the draft on your post. Not likely to trade.
Suckling & Dickson retired (2). 2 players from Porter, Lynch, Jong, Greene, Gowers (4). Plus any players requesting a trade out.
Seems fine.
Bulldog Joe
30-08-2019, 05:28 PM
Gowers and Jong are contracted, but I feel Dickson would help us most. He's AFL standard and a beautiful set shot as well.
Gowers and Jong would help us most by finding a club that is not Western Bulldogs and will give them playing opportunities.
GVGjr
30-08-2019, 07:37 PM
Despite both Lynch and Jong having contracts I'm not sure they fit into our plans. Perhaps one of them might slide to the rookie list
I think Lynch has some senior AFL type attributes but he just doesn't get enough of the ball. We all love the physical style of Jong but he's really struggled with his injuries
Some tough decisions need to be made
FrediKanoute
30-08-2019, 11:08 PM
Football is fickle. This time last year we would have pencilled Gowers and Lynch into a starting 18, based on their form last year and had Jong in the top 25.
The reality is because of form/effort/injury/who knows they have fallen down the pecking order. 2 at least wont be in our plans next year.
Happy Days
31-08-2019, 02:04 AM
Football is fickle. This time last year we would have pencilled Gowers and Lynch into a starting 18, based on their form last year and had Jong in the top 25.
Maybe you guys would have.
Twodogs
31-08-2019, 11:01 AM
Maybe you guys would have.
I saw a bit of him at Footscray and I couldn't really see the need to draft another forward that couldn't kick (the first time I saw him play he took a mark and as he was going back to have his shot a bloke standing near me said "spread out, this could go anywhere") but I thought he had improved a lot last year to the player I saw first at Footscray.
Bumper Bulldogs
01-09-2019, 05:54 PM
I still think that Gowers has somethings my to offer. At his end of year review I would put the acid on him and say you need to come back ripping fitness as your gonna play midfield in the VFL. I think he could be a Mitch Harn type of guy and if nothing else it would add value to trading him if it didn’t work out that well at the end of 2020
bornadog
05-09-2019, 03:24 PM
Dale new contract
choconmientay
05-09-2019, 03:45 PM
Dale new contract
Great news. Another moral boost ahead of this weekend game.
You are getting slack BAD. Where is the link (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-09-05/new-deal-for-dale) to the announcement :)
bornadog
05-09-2019, 04:16 PM
Great news. Another moral boost ahead of this weekend game.
You are getting slack BAD. Where is the link (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-09-05/new-deal-for-dale) to the announcement :)
here (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-09-05/new-deal-for-dale) of course :D
AshMac
06-09-2019, 10:32 PM
Would love to know where Cal Porter is at. Such big wraps on his leadership and potential when we drafted him. Seen him as an emergency a couple of times but doesn't look close to it from a distance.
bornadog
06-09-2019, 11:17 PM
Would love to know where Cal Porter is at. Such big wraps on his leadership and potential when we drafted him. Seen him as an emergency a couple of times but doesn't look close to it from a distance.
Has played well this year in the VFL, but I am not sure what his point of difference is. I am also not sure why we gave him another contract
Bulldog4life
07-09-2019, 12:12 PM
Has played well this year in the VFL, but I am not sure what his point of difference is. I am also not sure why we gave him another contract
Was disappointing in first final.
AshMac
07-09-2019, 03:04 PM
Has played well this year in the VFL, but I am not sure what his point of difference is. I am also not sure why we gave him another contract
It’s re signing him that made me wonder
Smads57
14-09-2019, 03:18 PM
Is anyone else a bit surprised that we didn’t hear of any delistings this week after players had their exit interviews? I would have thought that there would have been at least one ie Webb. Are we holding onto everyone for now as insurance against what might arise as offers to our uncontracted players?
ledge
14-09-2019, 04:52 PM
Is anyone else a bit surprised that we didn’t hear of any delistings this week after players had their exit interviews? I would have thought that there would have been at least one ie Webb. Are we holding onto everyone for now as insurance against what might arise as offers to our uncontracted players?
Was thinking the same actually.
bulldogtragic
14-09-2019, 08:06 PM
Is anyone else a bit surprised that we didn’t hear of any delistings this week after players had their exit interviews? I would have thought that there would have been at least one ie Webb. Are we holding onto everyone for now as insurance against what might arise as offers to our uncontracted players?
Yes without over analysing things.
So now I over analyse things. The uncontracted number is 4. Williams will stay or be traded. So he's not facing delisting. Roberts & Dickson are free agents so they will be re-signed or exercise their free agency status. Also by not delisting them, in the very, very, very unlikely event there's compensation for the player/s we could get a third rounder at best. But not if they're delisted first.
The obvious ones to me are Webb, and rookies Roarke Smith & Gardner. But if Bevo and Power want to keep them both (by upgrading La Young). So if the club keeps the rookies (I'd cut both), then we are back at delisting only Webb now. If a player or two said they are open to trades (ie Jong, Lynch) maybe there might be a very outside chance Webb could stay? Or maybe Webb has a club offering him a lifeline? Or maybe we are just waiting for a few more to be added to the media release so it doesn't just look like the only bloke fired is Webb?
But I agree with your post. I checked the club's website yesterday just in case 100 of us missed anything.
bulldogtragic
17-09-2019, 12:01 AM
Having said that, it’s interesting that Bailey Williams isn’t signed. 3 weeks from the trade period and he’s uncontracted and the media have reported interest this year from Adelaide & St Kilda. Two clubs we hope to deal with re Bruce/Keath. No real point, but interesting that we haven’t signed him up if that’s what we want.
bornadog
20-09-2019, 04:22 PM
Well, Bailey Williams signed.
Developing utility Bailey Williams has re-signed with the Western Bulldogs.
The 21-year-old has committed to a two-year contract extension, which will see him stay at VU Whitten Oval until at least the end of 2021.
Williams averaged more than 15 disposals per game in his nine AFL matches this year, playing primarily as a defender.
The South Australian product has played 41 AFL matches across four seasons, since joining the Bulldogs with pick 48 in the 2015 NAB AFL Draft.
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said Williams had shown promise in his first four years at the Kennel.
“We’ve seen plenty of growth in Bailey’s game over the past couple of years, and we believe he has a bright future as a Bulldog,” Power said.
“Bailey is a versatile player who has a strong game sense and intercepts the ball well. He’s shown across his career that he can play multiple roles, including down back and through the midfield.
“He displayed some impressive signs in his AFL opportunities this season and was dominant when playing for Footscray at VFL level.
“Having now had four years in the AFL system, Bailey will be determined to cement his position in the senior team and help drive us forward in 2020.”
Williams becomes the 16th player to re-sign with the Western Bulldogs in 2019.
Axe Man
20-09-2019, 04:27 PM
I'm happy to keep Bailey but I have NFI how we are going to make the list room for the 253 players we have been linked to.
bornadog
20-09-2019, 04:29 PM
I'm happy to keep Bailey but I have NFI how we are going to make the list room for the 253 players we have been linked to.
I think we will make very little change to the list.
We are compelled to draft 3 and we will most likely pick up 2 with trades. (just my thoughts)
bulldogtragic
20-09-2019, 04:39 PM
I'm happy to keep Bailey but I have NFI how we are going to make the list room for the 253 players we have been linked to.
I'm prepared to call 5 - Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts & Webb
I think we may need 7 though (4 trades &/or free agents) - So that leaves main 3 possibles: Dickson (uncontracted), Jong &/or Lynch (traded). Jong & Lynch might want to actually play afl footy, so maybe something moves here.
If we have Bruce, Naughton, Schache, Dale, Lloyd and say we bring in a small pressure forward. Plus Gowers, Greene and Cavarra. With the signing of the likes of Porter done already, Dickson might be up against it.
It's really tough now. I would've held Porter back, but good for him.
Cyberdoggie
20-09-2019, 04:40 PM
Perhaps they waited this long on Williams because they now realized they couldn't get the targets they were after.
bornadog
20-09-2019, 05:04 PM
I'm prepared to call 5 - Boyd, Picken, Morris, Roberts & Webb
I think we may need 7 though (4 trades &/or free agents) - So that leaves main 3 possibles: Dickson (uncontracted), Jong &/or Lynch (traded). Jong & Lynch might want to actually play afl footy, so maybe something moves here.
If we have Bruce, Naughton, Schache, Dale, Lloyd and say we bring in a small pressure forward. Plus Gowers, Greene and Cavarra. With the signing of the likes of Porter done already, Dickson might be up against it.
It's really tough now. I would've held Porter back, but good for him.
Still scratching my head why we signed Porter. Why do you think 7? Do we need 7 new faces.
bulldogtragic
20-09-2019, 05:14 PM
Still scratching my head why we signed Porter. Why do you think 7? Do we need 7 new faces.
I can't recall whether it was Bevo or a statement from the club indicating we are looking to be active with a focus on KPDs and ruck. We've been linked to Keath & Howard as a KPD, and Zak Smith as a cheap ruck option and with Josh Bruce as a KPF.
So that's three new faces and I'd like a small pressure forward. I'd take in two live draft picks and upgrade La Young.
In the passed couple of years:
We haven't replaced Boyd, Redders & Cloke (Boyd this year)
We haven't replaced Roughed & Campbell
We haven't replaced Adams, Morris, Collins & Roberts (two this year)
I think the club appears on the right track. One KPD, one KPF, one cheap ruck and keep an eye out for gettable talent up to and including a small pressure forward. Plus the three draft selections (inc. upgrades). So a turnover of 7 players seems about right to me, and get the balance and depth better in the big man areas.
bornadog
20-09-2019, 05:30 PM
I can't recall whether it was Bevo or a statement from the club indicating we are looking to be active with a focus on KPDs and ruck. We've been linked to Keath & Howard as a KPD, and Zak Smith as a cheap ruck option and with Josh Bruce as a KPF.
So that's three new faces and I'd like a small pressure forward. I'd take in two live draft picks and upgrade La Young.
In the passed couple of years:
We haven't replaced Boyd, Redders & Cloke (Boyd this year)
We haven't replaced Roughed & Campbell
We haven't replaced Adams, Morris, Collins & Roberts (two this year)
I think the club appears on the right track. One KPD, one KPF, one cheap ruck and keep an eye out for gettable talent up to and including a small pressure forward. Plus the three draft selections (inc. upgrades). So a turnover of 7 players seems about right to me, and get the balance and depth better in the big man areas.
We can use the rookie draft for some of those. if La Young upgraded I would also look at delisting Roarke - that is two spots for backup ruck, and maybe a small forward.
I wonder if there are any players wanting to leave?
bulldogtragic
20-09-2019, 05:37 PM
We can use the rookie draft for some of those. if La Young upgraded I would also look at delisting Roarke - that is two spots for backup ruck, and maybe a small forward.
I wonder if there are any players wanting to leave?
That’s a good question. No media outlet has hinted at anything.
We are moving to a ‘window’. Hoping in three year time kpps make it is not my idea of getting to and staying in the window longer. We have heaps of picks and salary cap right now, with heaps of kids to develop also next year. 7 isn’t an excessive number if it’s done right. I have no problem parting with Roarke & Gardner.
Axe Man
20-09-2019, 05:44 PM
I wonder if there are any players wanting to leave?
Nobody wants to leave, nobody wants to join. We are like some kind of weird cult.
All hail supreme leader Bevo.
bornadog
20-09-2019, 05:49 PM
That’s a good question. No media outlet has hinted at anything.
We are moving to a ‘window’. Hoping in three year time kpps make it is not my idea of getting to and staying in the window longer. We have heaps of picks and salary cap right now, with heaps of kids to develop also next year. 7 isn’t an excessive number if it’s done right. I have no problem parting with Roarke & Gardner.
Hold on, what is the status of Gardner? Is he taking up a spot?
bulldogtragic
20-09-2019, 06:21 PM
Hold on, what is the status of Gardner? Is he taking up a spot?
He's now uncontracted, but if we want to retain him, yes. Say Roarke goes &/or Young is elevated we can put him in one of those vacancies. I see no reason to keep him especially with the types of players we are hoping to bring in. I'd rather a rookie draft selection or SSP option.
Doc26
20-09-2019, 06:41 PM
He's now uncontracted, but if we want to retain him, yes. Say Roarke goes &/or Young is elevated we can put him in one of those vacancies. I see no reason to keep him especially with the types of players we are hoping to bring in. I'd rather a rookie draft selection or SSP option.
Hey BT, do you know that this is actually the term of the contract that Gardner negotiated with the Club?
The mid-season draft as far as I’m aware permitted a short term contract option to 31Oct this year, or the option to 31Oct2020, with the option to be re-signed based on existing rookie rules.
bulldogtragic
20-09-2019, 07:02 PM
Hey BT, do you know that this is actually the term of the contract that Gardner negotiated with the Club?
The mid-season draft as far as I’m aware permitted a short term contract option to 31Oct this year, or the option to 31Oct2020, with the option to be re-signed based on existing rookie rules.
Not for a fact on that. Buku got two years last year. La Young got an upgrade very early on. Sweet looked like at least two years plus and got that second year last month. Bevo loves Roarke and we should have one rookie selection or SSP at minimum. So all that factored in, I’m having an educated guess that at the time of the mid season draft we wouldn’t have given him anything passed the end of this year (locking ourselves & our flexibility down) based on two handful of VFL games. Unfortunately for him he his PCL. As I say, that’s my best guess. The rookie list will be interesting to keep tabs on.
bornadog
20-09-2019, 10:26 PM
Not for a fact on that. Buku got two years last year. La Young got an upgrade very early on. Sweet looked like at least two years plus and got that second year last month. Bevo loves Roarke and we should have one rookie selection or SSP at minimum. So all that factored in, I’m having an educated guess that at the time of the mid season draft we wouldn’t have given him anything passed the end of this year (locking ourselves & our flexibility down) based on two handful of VFL games. Unfortunately for him he his PCL. As I say, that’s my best guess. The rookie list will be interesting to keep tabs on.
I never understood what we saw in Gardner. VFL form was ordinary.
GVGjr
21-09-2019, 07:57 AM
I never understood what we saw in Gardner. VFL form was ordinary.
I think he got off to a good start early in the year but you're right that his form before he got selected for a couple of senior games just wasn't good enough to warrant that promotion
Spots this year are incredibly tight at best he probably goes onto a rookie list
GVGjr
21-09-2019, 08:16 AM
I think we will make very little change to the list.
We are compelled to draft 3 and we will most likely pick up 2 with trades. (just my thoughts)
It's almost certain that there won't be many changes and we even have the option to upgrade Lachlan Young from the rookie list as one of those 3 draft picks.
The only think that might change is if a club or two are interested in the likes of Jong or Lynch
comrade
21-09-2019, 08:16 AM
I think he got off to a good start early in the year but you're right that his form before he got selected for a couple of senior games just wasn't good enough to warrant that promotion
Spots this year are incredibly tight at best he probably goes onto a rookie list
His only chance of making it is as a key defender. Looks completely lost forward.
GVGjr
21-09-2019, 08:18 AM
His only chance of making it is as a key defender. Looks completely lost forward.
Agreed although he did play a couple of good games as a forward for Footscray
Bulldog4life
21-09-2019, 09:07 AM
Agreed although he did play a couple of good games as a forward for Footscray
His majority of best games at Geelong were as a defender although he had on outstanding game as key forward when he kicked 6 goals.
G-Mo77
23-09-2019, 07:42 PM
I never understood what we saw in Gardner. VFL form was ordinary.
Tough crowd. He was really solid early in the VFL and I was very pleased to get him. We threw him to the wolves though and the rest is history. Considering how well Lewis Young performed late it's a head scratcher he was rushed in. I guess if you perform at VFL you get a call up so of he was on the list from the start he probably would have played earlier.
Twodogs
23-09-2019, 08:13 PM
Nobody wants to leave, nobody wants to join. We are like some kind of weird cult.
All hail supreme leader Bevo.
Oh! Is that Kool Aide you have there? Can I have some?
The Doctor
03-10-2019, 04:43 PM
Is Fergus Greene actually contracted til 2020? His profile on the club's site says he renewed in 2018 for 1 season til the end of 2019. Have I missed something?
bornadog
03-10-2019, 04:47 PM
Is Fergus Greene actually contracted til 2020? His profile on the club's site says he renewed in 2018 for 1 season til the end of 2019. Have I missed something?
Read here (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-04-05/greene-extends-stay-at-the-kennel)Doc
The Doctor
03-10-2019, 04:49 PM
Read here (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-04-05/greene-extends-stay-at-the-kennel)Doc
thanks for that BAD
Couldn't see that on his profile
Axe Man
03-10-2019, 05:11 PM
Is Fergus Greene actually contracted til 2020? His profile on the club's site says he renewed in 2018 for 1 season til the end of 2019. Have I missed something?
I was actually going to put links next to each player to the article reporting their most recent contract but unfortunately website technical issues have prevented me so far.
I am fairly confident every thing is correct with the exception of Buku who I am reliably informed has a contract for next season, but since nothing official has been announced I have not yet updated.
bornadog
03-10-2019, 05:19 PM
I was actually going to put links next to each player to the article reporting their most recent contract but unfortunately website technical issues have prevented me so far.
I am fairly confident every thing is correct with the exception of Buku who I am reliably informed has a contract for next season, but since nothing official has been announced I have not yet updated.
According to Footywire - Western Bulldogs Players Out of Contract in 2019
Name
Years Service
Status
Buku Khamis
1
Non-Free Agent
Dale Morris
15
Unrestricted Free Agent
Fletcher Roberts
8
Restricted Free Agent
Liam Picken
11
Unrestricted Free Agent
Lukas Webb
5
Non-Free Agent
Roarke Smith
5
Non-Free Agent
Ryan Gardner
1
Non-Free Agent
Tory Dickson
8
Restricted Free Agent
divvydan
04-10-2019, 12:09 AM
Keep opening this thread hoping for news that Bailey Smith has extended his contract but alas, still nothing. Not that it necessarily means anything but we've always tried to extend players during their first year so I have no doubt we've offered him an extension during the season and clearly he's either turned it down or just put if off until later.
Not that it means much but on Insta he's called himself a dog for life a few times haha.
Twodogs
13-10-2019, 08:06 PM
Not that it means much but on Insta he's called himself a dog for life a few times haha.
Poor bastard! Welcome to the sickness Bailey.
bulldogtragic
14-10-2019, 11:44 AM
So, as it stands if we only sign Bruce & Keath, we only need five list spots opened. Three for the draft, two for trade.
(1) Boyd (2) Picken (3) Morris (4) Roberts (5) Webb
Dicko might be going around in 2020.
ledge
14-10-2019, 01:06 PM
So, as it stands if we only sign Bruce & Keth, we only need five list spots opened. Three for the draft, two for trade.
(1) Boyd (2) Picken (3) Morris (4) Roberts (5) Webb
Dicko might be going around in 2020.
Good , I don’t see the need for many changes.
FrediKanoute
18-10-2019, 01:06 AM
This was the status on the AFL website today:
In limbo: The Dogs' successful Trade Period in landing key pillars Alex Keath and Josh Bruce has rookie Ryan Gardner's time at Whitten Oval in doubt. Tory Dickson (pictured) was told he had to wait until post Trade Period, while Fletcher Roberts, Roarke Smith and Lukas Webb are yet to be offered deals with Monday's list management meeting to determine their fate.
Delisted: Nil
Retired: Tom Boyd, Dale Morris, Liam Picken and Lukas Webb are yet to be offered deals with Monday's list management meeting to determine their fate.
Delisted: Nil
Retired: Tom Boyd, Dale Morris, Liam Picken
ledge
18-10-2019, 01:12 AM
I would imagine Roberts and Gardiner gone with who we picked up.
A Back and forward for a back and forward.
Dickson and Webb would be decided on what type of player we are looking at at 13 I would think.
Think Dicko will be retained, Webb and Roberts probably most at risk.
Webb and Dicko have done pretty well off field this month....they may be making more from racing than footy over the next 12 months!
bulldogtragic
22-10-2019, 08:59 PM
We are the only team not to announce any delistings.
I wonder if it's simply a timing issue post trade period and not take any shine of the AFLW Draft today. Or whether there's some serious debate around Tory Dickson (vs a DFA) or the exit of a contracted fringe player (see Cloke, Redpath). I don't see any huge issues sorting out decisions on Roberts, Webb, Roarke & Gardner.
Axe Man
23-10-2019, 06:17 PM
Roberts, Webb depart the Kennel (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-10-23/roberts-webb-depart-the-kennel)
Fletcher Roberts and Lukas Webb have been advised they will not be offered contracts by the Western Bulldogs for 2020.
Roberts, 26, was a member of the Bulldogs’ historic 2016 AFL premiership side.
The key defender played 51 AFL games – two of those in 2019 – across eight seasons, after joining the club in the pre-season draft of 2011.
His best season was 2016, where he featured in 18 AFL matches, including the preliminary final and grand final wins.
Webb, 23, played in Footscray’s 2016 VFL premiership team.
The midfielder made a return to football this season after sustaining a neck injury in 2018, but was unable to break into the AFL side.
He was drafted with pick 27 in the 2014 national draft, playing 24 AFL games over five seasons.
“We thank Fletcher and Lukas for their contributions at our football club,” General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said.
“Both were part of team success in 2016, with Fletcher an important member of our AFL premiership side and Lukas among the best performers in Footscray’s VFL triumph.
“They have been well-respected members of our playing group, and we wish them all the best for the future.”
Roberts and Webb join retired trio Dale Morris, Liam Picken and Tom Boyd as departures from the Bulldogs’ playing list in 2019.
bornadog
23-10-2019, 06:18 PM
Roberts, Webb depart the Kennel (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-10-23/roberts-webb-depart-the-kennel)
No surprises here
Axe Man
23-10-2019, 06:20 PM
No surprises here
Just that there is no mention of what is happening with Dickson, Roarke & Gardner. Surely Tory is safe now, no idea about the rookies.
bulldogtragic
23-10-2019, 06:47 PM
Just that there is no mention of what is happening with Dickson, Roarke & Gardner. Surely Tory is safe now, no idea about the rookies.
Yep. We know the field of DFAs and if something was happening Dicko would be gone. So a one year extension seems a safe bet.
Assuming La Young is upgraded in lieu of Pick 89, then the rookie list can stay together consisting of Khamis, Sweet, Roarke & Gardner. Why we wouldn't cut Roarke & Gardner is a seperate question.
Testekill
23-10-2019, 07:44 PM
Yep. We know the field of DFAs and if something was happening Dicko would be gone. So a one year extension seems a safe bet.
Assuming La Young is upgraded in lieu of Pick 89, then the rookie list can stay together consisting of Khamis, Sweet, Roarke & Gardner. Why we wouldn't cut Roarke & Gardner is a seperate question.
Aren't midseason rookie picks essentially unsigned at the end of season unless stated otherwise?
bulldogtragic
23-10-2019, 08:52 PM
Aren't midseason rookie picks essentially unsigned at the end of season unless stated otherwise?
Another poster (sorry who it was) mentioned that mid season pick ups can get offered 18 months and we didn't specify either way. With Bruce & Keath hopefully he goes back to Fooscray and proves many of us wrong after technical or straight forward delistment. On AFEL.com.au they've been referencing the other cut mid season pick ups as 'delisted' if that helps any.
bulldogtragic
23-10-2019, 10:51 PM
Kudos to Webby. The bloke literally broke his neck giving everything for red, white and blue jumper.
Complete credit to him for cracking in, in the role he was asked to play. And complete credit to him to fighting back to get in the paddock.
bornadog
28-10-2019, 05:24 PM
Dickson locked in for 2020 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-10-28/dickson-locked-in-for-2020)
Veteran forward Tory Dickson has signed a one-year contract extension for 2020.
The 32-year-old premiership player has kicked 181 goals across his 113-game AFL career and is renowned as one of the AFL’s most accurate set-shot exponents.
Dickson returned to fitness in 2019, playing 17 games and kicking 24 goals, including multiple goals on eight occasions.
A series of injuries had restricted him to just 17 appearances across the previous two seasons.
The experienced goal-kicker will be one of just three players on the Club’s young list aged 30-or-over at the start of 2020, alongside Easton Wood (30) and Matthew Suckling (31).
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said Dickson was an important signing.
“We’re really pleased to have Tory locked in for another year,” Power said.
“He’s one of the more experienced players on our list and has been a proven contributor at AFL level now for a significant period of time.
“Tory was able to bounce back this year after a couple of injury-hit seasons to play consistent football at AFL level. He provided an important avenue to goal for us throughout the year and knows how to make the most of his opportunities.
“We’re confident that he will have plenty to offer next year, complementing our emerging group of forwards.”
Grantysghost
28-10-2019, 06:05 PM
Great news I think he still has something to offer.
Eastdog
28-10-2019, 10:12 PM
Great news I think he still has something to offer.
Me too. Still has plenty to contribute to our team.
bulldogtragic
28-10-2019, 10:41 PM
Afel.com.au reporting that Gardner is tipped to re-sign. Why?? Anyway:
If true... That means Gardner, Sweet, Young & Khamis are locked in.
Meaning La Young gets upgraded and Roarke stays, or, Roarke gets delisted. No rookie draft or SSP option.
Or if we want a rookie draft spot/SSP option, La Young gets upgraded & Roarke gets cut.
Interesting.
ledge
29-10-2019, 12:48 AM
This is very funny
https://www.facebook.com/356560647486/posts/10157561998232487/
strebla
29-10-2019, 02:15 AM
I must be the only one who thinks this is not us moving forward I would hope that Lipinski would take his spot. I think we would be better served chasing a small quick tackling forward.
bornadog
29-10-2019, 10:08 AM
I must be the only one who thinks this is not us moving forward I would hope that Lipinski would take his spot. I think we would be better served chasing a small quick tackling forward.
Are you talking about Dickson?
hujsh
29-10-2019, 10:48 AM
I must be the only one who thinks this is not us moving forward I would hope that Lipinski would take his spot. I think we would be better served chasing a small quick tackling forward.
Lipinski is doing well as a mid so trying to make him adjust his game again to replace Tory wouldn't make much sense. Maybe if we'd got Martin it'd be different but Dickson likely offers us more than whoever would take the last spot on the list next year.
Bulldog Joe
29-10-2019, 12:41 PM
I must be the only one who thinks this is not us moving forward I would hope that Lipinski would take his spot. I think we would be better served chasing a small quick tackling forward.
Dickson can be the player who kicks a clutch goal and makes the difference in a final. He is a known quantity.
bulldogtragic
29-10-2019, 02:24 PM
I would've been happy either way on Dickson.
But the reality is, if Dicko plays 11+ games (1/2 normal season) then Lloyd, Dale, Greene, Cavarra & Gowers have not taken the next step in their development. If they do elevate their own games, then Dicko may not get a lot of games. May competition bring out the best in our players over the preseason and next season.
Axe Man
29-10-2019, 04:42 PM
Smith, Gardner earn new deals (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-10-29/smith-gardner-earn-new-deals?fbclid=IwAR31RyLPFzb9k9WbRNWqWIcIA1a5j8fwju67fF0-sAdZDnVkTQy5LhwCJSk)
The Western Bulldogs have re-signed Roarke Smith and Ryan Gardner as rookie-listed players for 2020.
Smith, 23, played five AFL games in 2019 to take his career tally to 17.
The utility joined the Bulldogs with pick five in the 2014 NAB AFL Rookie Draft, making his AFL debut in 2015.
He had two knee reconstructions in his first three seasons, before being delisted and redrafted at the end of 2017.
Smith kicked his maiden AFL goal in round 15 against Port Adelaide in arguably his best performance at the level, where he collected 24 disposals and laid five tackles.
Gardner, 22, was drafted from Footscray in this year’s AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft.
The tall utility made his AFL debut the same week – against the West Coast Eagles in Perth – which was one of his two senior appearances for the year.
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said both Smith and Gardner had the attributes to be successful AFL players for the Bulldogs.
“We saw some really promising signs from Roarke and Ryan in 2019,” Power said.
“Roarke’s challenges with injury early in his career are well-known. This year, he was able to consistently play good football for Footscray and make an impact when given the opportunity at senior level.
“He’s good by foot and has the flexibility to play roles across all three lines.
“Ryan also offers great versatility, in being able to play as a key defender or key forward, and he provides plenty of competitiveness in the air.
“He was drafted on the back of some impressive form for Footscray, and while a knee injury restricted him later in the season, we are confident he has more to offer at AFL level.”
hujsh
29-10-2019, 04:57 PM
Well at the very least I guess they offer some depth. Not convinced they're there next year (though you could say that of Rourke for 3-4 years now)
bulldogtragic
29-10-2019, 05:40 PM
= 5 rookies with contracts, so:
La Young will be upgraded in lieu of Pick 89
&
No rookie draft picks or SSP options (4 rookie spots filled - Khamis, Sweet, Roarke, Gardner)
Virtually the same senior and rookie list from this year (Boyd, Picko & Morris all injured, Roberts & Webb not much selected), plus Bruce, Keath, Pick 13, Pick 53.
Two trades. Two draft picks. No rookie draft picks.
Minimalist. Very.
bulldogtragic
29-10-2019, 05:47 PM
Well at the very least I guess they offer some depth. Not convinced they're there next year (though you could say that of Rourke for 3-4 years now)
Next year needs to be a big overhaul if the fringe players don't perform. From:
Main List: (1) Jong, (2) Lynch, (3) Porter, (4) Greene, (5) Gowers, (6) Cavarra & likely retired (7) Dickson & (8) Suckling.
Rookie List: (1) Roarke (2) Gardner
bornadog
29-10-2019, 05:51 PM
Ridiculous, Smith has been a rookie for 5 years. Either he is up to it or not.
Axe Man
29-10-2019, 06:12 PM
Roarke has the designated eker position on our list all sewn up. About to enter his sixth season with 17 games to his name and at long odds to add more than a handful to that total. I will be amazed if he is still on the list in 12 months time which suggests this is a wasted opportunity to give a shot to somebody else.
Gardner actually makes more sense. His untimely injury meant he didn't get much opportunity to prove himself and he provides much needed tall depth, potentially forward, back and the ruck. We have plenty of players who can offer similar qualities to Smith, not so Gardner.
Bulldog Joe
29-10-2019, 07:17 PM
Roarke has the designated eker position on our list all sewn up. About to enter his sixth season with 17 games to his name and at long odds to add more than a handful to that total. I will be amazed if he is still on the list in 12 months time which suggests this is a wasted opportunity to give a shot to somebody else.
Gardner actually makes more sense. His untimely injury meant he didn't get much opportunity to prove himself and he provides much needed tall depth, potentially forward, back and the ruck. We have plenty of players who can offer similar qualities to Smith, not so Gardner.
I feel this is more about 2020 draft than anything else.
We have NGA and Father/Son candidates who look like we should take them.
We will need plenty of list spots to be able to utilise the picks and adding someone who could not be delisted next year would interfere with that requirement.
GVGjr
29-10-2019, 09:32 PM
I feel this is more about 2020 draft than anything else.
We have NGA and Father/Son candidates who look like we should take them.
We will need plenty of list spots to be able to utilise the picks and adding someone who could not be delisted next year would interfere with that requirement.
Not so sure BJ, what if many of the players on one year deals all have good seasons in 2020? I think we could have opened spots on the rookie list this year without compromising 2020 objectives in the slightest
The Bulldogs Bite
29-10-2019, 09:37 PM
Really is ridiculous that Roarke has been on our list this long.
GVGjr
29-10-2019, 10:17 PM
Axeman is right. On displayed form keeping Smith is a strange decision that smacks of Bevo liking the player. Lets hope Bevo has got this one right
With Roberts moving on Gardner at least provides some coverage as a key defender
bulldogtragic
29-10-2019, 10:41 PM
Axeman is right. On displayed form keeping Smith is a strange decision that smacks of Bevo liking the player. Lets hope Bevo has got this one right
With Roberts moving on Gardner at least provides some coverage as a key defender
It's been many a year we've not participated in a rookie draft. Moreso factoring out times where it was for financial reasons. For a club with a rich history in plummeting the rookie draft, sitting one out altogether is hard to fathom.
Happy Days
30-10-2019, 02:27 AM
Retaining Roarke is weird, but there's a real possibility that Gardner is the worst player in the AFL next year. Baffling decision to re-list him.
bornadog
30-10-2019, 09:07 AM
Retaining Roarke is weird, but there's a real possibility that Gardner is the worst player in the AFL next year. Baffling decision to re-list him.
Roberts>Gardner
GVGjr
30-10-2019, 09:54 AM
Roberts>Gardner
Not necessarily if the coach wasn't going to select Roberts
bornadog
30-10-2019, 11:01 AM
Not necessarily if the coach wasn't going to select Roberts
Personally I don't rate Gardner at all. I hope he proves me wrong as he is on our list, but what I have seen in the VFL, he is only on the team due to height.
GVGjr
30-10-2019, 11:17 AM
Personally I don't rate Gardner at all. I hope he proves me wrong as he is on our list, but what I have seen in the VFL, he is only on the team due to height.
While I tend to agree roughly how many times did you see him play at Footscray this year? He did start the season off well and was moved forward and back.
lemmon
30-10-2019, 11:30 AM
While I tend to agree roughly how many times did you see him play at Footscray this year? He did start the season off well and was moved forward and back.
Any chance they see Gardner as ruck depth? Think we're still running way too short in that area. Might be one that's groomed as a potential ruck over summer.
strebla
30-10-2019, 11:53 AM
Was really hoping we targeted a small zippy forward and ruck depth I will back Sam and his team but this makes me feel uneasy
GVGjr
30-10-2019, 12:42 PM
Any chance they see Gardner as ruck depth? Think we're still running way too short in that area. Might be one that's groomed as a potential ruck over summer.
He's not a ruckman from what I have seen. We will probably back ourselves to get him improving but I hope we don't think he can ruck
1eyedog
30-10-2019, 06:38 PM
While I tend to agree roughly how many times did you see him play at Footscray this year? He did start the season off well and was moved forward and back.
I saw three very ordinary games at Footscray early last season.
bornadog
30-10-2019, 06:40 PM
I saw three very ordinary games at Footscray early last season.
Plus the game v Freo. He hardly touched the ball in all of them.
I also saw him in the ruck v Richmond and did his knee, but wasn't doing much till then. There is a reason Geelong dumped him.
Rocco Jones
30-10-2019, 06:59 PM
I mostly like our 'kindness' with list management, demonstrating loyalty being being a two way street. However, I do not really get keeping Roarke Smith or Gardner. The only thing with Gardner is that we drafted him mid year and he got hurt. I can kinda see us 'doing the right thing' by him. Roarke I struggle with. Great team guy, great attitude but he isn't up to it.
GVGjr
30-10-2019, 08:13 PM
I saw three very ordinary games at Footscray early last season.
From what I saw of him he played probably about 3 good games and one of them was as a forward. These rest of them were fairly quiet. Perhaps we like his mobility
bornadog
31-10-2019, 12:30 PM
This is very funny
https://www.facebook.com/356560647486/posts/10157561998232487/
For those who don't have facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JggpoahhEf8
Twodogs
31-10-2019, 01:16 PM
That's a *!*!*!*!ing awesome piece of football there. Never gave up and then tucked him up in the tackle.
Brilliant.
bornadog
31-10-2019, 01:38 PM
That's a *!*!*!*!ing awesome piece of football there. Never gave up and then tucked him up in the tackle.
Brilliant.
and the dirty prick bit Dicko in the tackle
Twodogs
01-11-2019, 10:20 PM
and the dirty prick bit Dicko in the tackle
Did he? I didn't see it but it doesn't surprise me.
Happy Days
01-11-2019, 11:42 PM
Did he? I didn't see it but it doesn't surprise me.
He did. He got suspended for it but somehow it's been lost to history. Getting run down like than and to respond as pathetically as to bite the person who did it is about as sad a thing I've seen in the AFL.
Remi Moses
02-11-2019, 11:09 AM
Shocked by the retaining of Smith and Gardner
Roarke’s had long enough to make it and think Gardner isn’t up to it
anfo27
02-11-2019, 12:14 PM
Shocked by the retaining of Smith and Gardner
Roarke’s had long enough to make it and think Gardner isn’t up to it
I was surprised we even drafted Gardner. He has looked very ordinary when i've seen him & reminds me of that hack Mulligan.
Smith i thought was lucky to be retained but i do think he has shown he is capable at the level. He did play very well against Port & if he can maintain that level then he'll be around the mark for a senior game each week.
Axe Man
13-11-2019, 10:14 AM
Schache’s new deal (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-11-13/schaches-new-deal?fbclid=IwAR0Vyuxw38WFXgLe9vGvEtP7SY3ZRGJWbigck6AMY1zj4T ZRibzs8LTefHc)
Emerging Western Bulldogs forward Josh Schache has recommitted to the Club for a further two years.
Schache, who was due to come out of contract at the end of the 2020 season, moved early to agree to a two-year extension which will see him remain a Bulldog until at least the end of 2022.
The 22-year-old becomes the 20th player to re-sign for the Club this year.
“I’ve loved my time at the Bulldogs over the last two years and had no hesitation in wanting to extend my contract with the Club,” Schache said.
“I’ve thoroughly enjoyed working on my game and trying to make an impact for the team, and I look forward to continuing my development over the next few years.
“We have a talented young group, and I’m excited about what we might be able to achieve together in the future.”
In 2019, Schache produced his most productive season yet at AFL level, playing 14 games and booting 24 goals, including multiple goals on seven occasions.
His career-high four-goal performance against Hawthorn in Round 2 also earned him a Brownlow Medal vote, and he experienced his first taste of finals football as a key player in the Club’s thrilling second half of the season.
“We’re thrilled to extend Josh’s contract, and we’re excited about what the future holds for him,” said Bulldogs’ General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power.
“Josh continues to make great strides in his game, and at just 22 years of age, his best football is well and truly ahead of him.”
Schache has played 27 games for the Bulldogs in the last two seasons and kicked 41 goals, after spending his first two AFL seasons with the Brisbane Lions
bulldogtragic
13-11-2019, 10:19 AM
There's a great video with Schache on YouTube on the club feed too.
Sam Power doesn't muck around. With the draft coming up in two weeks, he's still signing up top talent.
bulldogsthru&thru
13-11-2019, 10:48 AM
Sammy needs to sign up Bailey Smith next post haste!
The Adelaide Connection
13-11-2019, 10:55 AM
There's a great video with Schache on YouTube on the club feed too.
Sam Power doesn't muck around. With the draft coming up in two weeks, he's still signing up top talent.
I am bullish that this will be Schache’s real breakout year. He has steadily been building confidence and experience. Another preseason and getting probably the third best defender each game also can’t hurt
Signing him now rather than midseason might have saved us a bit of coin. Another big tick for Sam IMO, he definitely has his finger on the pulse.
bulldogtragic
13-11-2019, 11:04 AM
I am bullish that this will be Schache’s real breakout year. He has steadily been building confidence and experience. Another preseason and getting probably the third best defender each game also can’t hurt
Signing him now rather than midsession might have saved us a bit of coin. Another big tick for Sam IMO, he definitely has his finger on the pulse.
Yep. Locks in our big guys for many years too. Naughton 5 more years, Bruce 4 years, Schache 3 years (JUH 2 next year).
comrade
13-11-2019, 11:14 AM
Looks like Schache has thickened up in the contract video. No longer a skinny kid.
Excited for his 2020.
bulldogtragic
13-11-2019, 11:39 AM
Looks like Schache has thickened up in the contract video. No longer a skinny kid.
Excited for his 2020.
I think it's one of the best videos we've produced. He was so eloquent in explaining his home sickness and sounds like if we didn't grab him he'd be playing country footy. It's one thing to say you play where you're drafred, but another thing if you're very unhappy and the only medicine to treat it is being close to family.
He's happy, super fit, improved his game, he looks stronger and has a club that really believes in him. Now he's third banana like Gunston was with Buddy & Roughy and with his goal kicking accuracy, should be able to apply the pain to opponents next year. I'm really looking forward to his 2020 as well.
Eastdog
13-11-2019, 12:15 PM
Great news. Showed a lot in 2019 in our forward line. Looking forward to what he can bring in 2020.
Bulldog4life
13-11-2019, 04:59 PM
I remember reading the following last year and thought I would share. It shows Bailey Smith's ideas on his first contract. Not sure what he thinks now.
While Walsh is firming to be snapped up by Carlton with Pick 1 in November, the likes of gun Sandringham midfielder Bailey Smith and WA bolter Jordan Clark are Iikely to go in the top 10. And the way things look, both are strong chances to move interstate.
Smith would even be happier to sign a one-year contract first up. But his reasoning is unique.
“I reckon two years is fine, I’ve got no problem with it. Even one year - I couldn’t care less, just get your foot in the door, try prove yourself,” Smith told foxfooty.com.au.
“Probably one year would be better because you’ve got a shorter time to prove yourself and you’re more hungry to prove yourself. If you had a longer time, you’d think ‘I’ve got next year to show what I can do’.
“The shorter it is, I honestly think the better. Whatever, I don’t mind.”
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-draft-2019-young-guns-split-on-if-new-draftee-contracts-should-be-longer-than-two-seasons/news-story/9281b35a40b458866149fd737a67643f
Twodogs
13-11-2019, 07:51 PM
I think that Bailey Smith has proved himself.
Bulldog4life
14-11-2019, 09:25 AM
I think that Bailey Smith has proved himself.
Agree entirely.
Eastdog
15-11-2019, 09:48 PM
I think that Bailey Smith has proved himself.
Yep agree TD. A great first season for us.
Twodogs
15-11-2019, 10:09 PM
Agree entirely.
Yep agree TD. A great first season for us.
I don't think that I have seen as a consistently good first season from a kid coming up from underage footy. Hardie won the brownlow in his first year but he was in his 20s by that stage and had been playing senior footy for a few years.
Maybe Chris Grant's 50 odd goals as a 17 year old in 1990 and Templeton's kicked 25 goals as an 18 yo (and 82 from 23 games as a 19 yo was a fair effort). Leon Cameron had a good first year too.
ledge
16-11-2019, 09:59 AM
I don't think that I have seen as a consistently good first season from a kid coming up from underage footy. Hardie won the brownlow in his first year but he was in his 20s by that stage and had been playing senior footy for a few years.
Maybe Chris Grant's 50 odd goals as a 17 year old in 1990 and Templeton's kicked 25 goals as an 18 yo (and 82 from 23 games as a 19 yo was a fair effort). Leon Cameron had a good first year too.
Bontempelli ? Steve McPherson IIRC
Axe Man
09-12-2019, 12:44 PM
One more year for Vandermeer (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/539881/one-more-year-for-vandermeer)
Emerging speedster Laitham Vandermeer has signed a one-year contract extension with the Western Bulldogs.
The 20-year-old will call VU Whitten Oval home until at least the end of 2021.
Vandermeer joined the Bulldogs in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft, where he was selected with pick 37 from the Murray Bushrangers.
The line-breaking utility averaged 14.6 disposals across 15 VFL matches for Footscray in an impressive first season in red, white and blue, but has yet to make an AFL debut.
“It shows the Club has a lot of trust in me and also gives me confidence going into the 2020 season to just play with freedom and give it everything,” Vandermeer said
“Getting drafted to the Bulldogs is the best thing that’s happened to me. It’s a very comfortable environment.
“It’s good to head into my second season feeling fit and fresh. I had a few injuries last year, which was a good learning curve, needing to be resilient and work through them.
“Continuity is my biggest goal now. Staying on the track for the whole pre-season will hopefully give me the best chance to play senior footy next year.”
Vandermeer was the travelling emergency for the Bulldogs’ mid-season win against Port Adelaide, before collecting a season-high 24 disposals in Footscray’s semi-final loss to Port Melbourne.
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said Vandermeer would be looking to push for senior selection in 2020.
“Laitham displayed some really promising signs in his first year at the Club,” Power said.
“His speed and ability to cover the ground are among his strengths, while he has already shown for Footscray that he is capable of having an impact across all three lines.
“We see Laitham as a player with plenty of room to grow and improve his game. Hopefully he can get a full pre-season under his belt and be pushing to break into the AFL side next year.”
GVGjr
09-12-2019, 12:47 PM
Good signing, he can be a damaging player for us.
Twodogs
09-12-2019, 12:56 PM
Good signing, he can be a damaging player for us.
Yep, he is a good pick up at 37 I reckon.
Smads57
09-12-2019, 03:47 PM
He was exciting with the ball in hand in most of his VFL games - shows promise as that outside running player - not that dissimilar to Richards
Eastdog
09-12-2019, 06:38 PM
Look forward to hoping to see him play some senior footy in 2020.
Twodogs
09-12-2019, 08:05 PM
Bontempelli ? Steve McPherson IIRC
I think that Magic MacLean and Steve MacPherson made their debuts within a couple of weeks of each other
Eastdog
09-12-2019, 08:07 PM
I think that Magic MacLean and Steve MacPherson made their debuts within a couple of weeks of each other
1983 looking at afl tables but not sure what rounds.
Twodogs
09-12-2019, 08:58 PM
1983 looking at afl tables but not sure what rounds.
Actually looking at it Steve debuted in 1982 and Madge played his first game in 1983.
Which is odd because I always had them down as playing their first game in 1984.
divvydan
18-12-2019, 09:46 AM
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/549928/smith-signs
Young gun Bailey Smith has re-signed with the Western Bulldogs for a further two seasons.
The 19-year-old midfielder had a sensational debut season in red, white and blue, playing all 23 matches at AFL level which included a taste of finals football.
Smith will now call VU Whitten Oval home until at least the end of 2022.
He had me worried for a while there.
bornadog
18-12-2019, 09:53 AM
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/549928/smith-signs
He had me worried for a while there.
Great News
comrade
18-12-2019, 09:59 AM
Bazlenka!!
Happy Days
18-12-2019, 10:10 AM
I was more worried about this than I was willing to let on. Great news.
bornadog
18-12-2019, 10:14 AM
I was more worried about this than I was willing to let on. Great news.
Yeah, I heard the Hawks were in his ear.
Remi Moses
18-12-2019, 10:33 AM
Tremendous news
Strikes me as a very loyal young bloke
bulldogtragic
18-12-2019, 10:33 AM
Best Christmas present ever. Ever.
kruder
18-12-2019, 11:33 AM
You just cant see BAZ not becoming an elite player, exaclty the type of midfielder we have been looking for.
Twodogs
18-12-2019, 01:09 PM
Great news.
Now for the Bont...
The Underdog
18-12-2019, 01:10 PM
Between this news and that photo of Naughton’s massive guns, I need a little lie down. *!*!*!*!ing awesome.
1eyedog
18-12-2019, 01:16 PM
Sleep just became that little bit more restful
Smads57
18-12-2019, 01:56 PM
Great news and well done by the publicity dept with the video they put together around his re-signing
bulldogtragic
18-12-2019, 02:23 PM
Fun Fact: We have re-signed 3 Baileys in 3 Months, for a total of 7 years combined.
Daughter of the West
18-12-2019, 04:39 PM
Fun Fact: We have re-signed 3 Baileys in 3 Months, for a total of 7 years combined.
Time to break out a bottle of Baileys and a box of BBQ Shapes in celebration methinks! ;)
The Bulldogs Bite
18-12-2019, 04:56 PM
Great news - the kid is special.
Bulldog4life
18-12-2019, 05:32 PM
Fantastic signing. Looking forward to seeing his improvement next year.
Hotdog60
29-02-2020, 12:52 PM
Lloyd adds another year
https://resources.westernbulldogs.com.au/photo-resources/2020/02/28/6de5db2a-6987-48fe-ac39-8efb921e2c53/LloydExtension-1920x1080-ART.jpg?width=952&height=592
Western Bulldogs forward Sam Lloyd has signed a one-year contract extension.
The 29-year-old has been rewarded for a career-best year in his first season in red, white and blue, where he featured in all 23 matches at AFL level and led the Bulldogs’ goal-kicking tally with 38 majors.
Having joined the Bulldogs in the 2018 NAB AFL Trade Period on a two-year deal, Lloyd will now remain at VU Whitten Oval until at least the end of 2021.
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said Lloyd had made an immediate impact as a Bulldog.
“Sam has been a great fit for our Club and enjoyed an outstanding first season,” Power said.
“He had a significant on-field impact, playing every game and consistently hitting the scoreboard to be our leading goal-kicker in 2019.
“As an experienced player in a developing group, Sam’s leadership and ability to help guide his younger teammates has also been important.”
In a consistent 2019 season, Lloyd kicked multiple goals on 14 occasions and had 10 or more disposals in every match.
He has kicked 107 goals from 80 matches at AFL level, since making his debut for Richmond in 2014.
LINK (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/570070/lloyd-adds-another-year)
bornadog
29-02-2020, 12:53 PM
Good News, he had been a great acquisition
Eastdog
29-02-2020, 06:23 PM
Good News, he had been a great acquisition
Agree BAD. He has been a great acquisition. Great to have him sign on.
Mantis
04-03-2020, 12:42 PM
I think Lloyd was really good for us last year, but he’s in the age bracket where I would be waiting until the mid point of the year before re-signing.
I’m not sold on how he will perform in big games yet.
azabob
05-03-2020, 09:27 PM
Hayden Croizer has signed until end of 2023.
Amazingly good news.
bulldogtragic
05-03-2020, 09:35 PM
A lot of our players resigning early. A great sign of a happy group.
Eastdog
05-03-2020, 09:36 PM
Great news. Hayden was great for us in 2019 in that back half.
bornadog
05-03-2020, 09:38 PM
Hayden Croizer has signed until end of 2023.
Amazingly good news.
One of our best recruits for along time.
GVGjr
05-03-2020, 09:40 PM
Hayden Croizer has signed until end of 2023.
Amazingly good news.
He's playing his best football with us. Nice to have him signed up
bornadog
05-03-2020, 11:59 PM
He's playing his best football with us. Nice to have him signed up
Some highlights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1HQtbzkBoI
GVGjr
06-03-2020, 04:42 AM
One of our best recruits for along time.
I wonder if his trip to the US with Bont and Dunkley was a turning point for him? He is clearly playing better football now than he did at Fremantle. He is a genuine leader of the back line and organises others plus his tackling and marking along with his kicking skills has been impressive. I suggest he would be one of the first picked each week.
The Doctor
06-03-2020, 08:30 AM
fantastic news
The Underdog
06-03-2020, 10:19 AM
Hayden Croizer has signed until end of 2023.
Amazingly good news.
Best number 9 since Gilbs :)
Axe Man
06-03-2020, 10:33 AM
Of the players coming out of contract at the end of the season I think Crozier was clearly our number 1 priority to re-sign. Should be a fairly stress free year with most of the remaining players unlikely to attract too much opposition interest.
Three more years for Crozier (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/572617/three-more-years-for-crozier)
Reliable defender Hayden Crozier has put pen to paper on a three-year contract extension with the Western Bulldogs.
The 26-year-old has played 39 games in red, white and blue over the past two seasons, since being secured in a trade from Fremantle at the end of 2017.
He will now call the Kennel home until at least the end of 2023.
“To re-sign was one of the easiest decisions I’ve ever made,” Crozier said.
“I absolutely love this Club and to be here until the end of 2023 is awesome.
“I’m really enjoying the challenge in defence, and I pride myself on being able to play tall or small. I’m happy to play wherever ‘Bevo’ wants me to and whatever role he wants me to.
“It’s a nice confidence-builder being able to go out on the ground every week knowing you have the full backing of your coaches and teammates.
“I want to be part of something special and I feel like we’ve got the group that can potentially take us there.”
Crozier featured in all but one AFL match for the Bulldogs last season, averaging more than 16 disposals and six marks per game across half-back.
Renowned for his aerial exploits, the forward-turned-defender has now played 108 AFL matches since making his debut for the Dockers in 2012.
General Manager of List and Recruiting, Sam Power, said Crozier had been a great acquisition for the Club.
“Hayden has shown continuous improvement and been a really consistent player for us over the past two seasons,” Power said.
“He’s slotted into our defensive group seamlessly and has finished in the top-10 in our best and fairest in both years.
“Hayden’s versatility and dependability are among his strengths. He’s able to play on taller and smaller opponents and shows tremendous courage in the air.
“We feel he will continue to grow and get better over the next three years.”
Axe Man
06-03-2020, 11:01 AM
Hayden Crozier signs a new deal to stay at Western Bulldogs (https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/western-bulldogs/hayden-crozier-signs-a-new-deal-to-stay-at-western-bulldogs/news-story/b09aeede2ac8cc88f09a5f83df8ce254)
They say Hawthorn is the family club, but for newly re-signed Bulldog Hayden Crozier there is no contest which club truly deserves the moniker.
The underrated defender – who has inked a new deal with the Western Bulldogs until the end of 2023 – has both his brother Mason and cousin Nick working at the Whitten Oval in commercial partnerships.
Crozier joked his cousin’s influence was a big reason why he was able to move across to the kennel from Fremantle at the end of 2017.
“The rumour has it Nick was pushing pretty hard for me to come to the club,” Crozier told the Herald Sun.
“He was pretty happy when I got here.
“And my brother has also been working here for a bit over a year now and he really enjoys it.
“The boys were giving him a bit of stick on photo day the other day.
“He came down with his hair looking all nice and sharp, so he blends in well with everyone upstairs and with all the playing group.”
The acquisition of Crozier until the end of 2023 is a big boost for the Bulldogs ahead of the start of the new season.
The 26-year-old’s on-field importance continued to grow in 2019 after playing 22 games and proving himself as a weapon off half-back.
He was the club’s leader for effective disposals last year, finishing the season with an efficiency rating of 82 per cent.
He also ranked second for both marks and rebound-50s.
The former Docker said he was happy to come to terms quickly rather than let his contract issue drag into the season.
“It’s a club that welcomed me from the moment I walked in the door,” he said.
“It’s somewhere where I feel like I’m playing my best footy and I’m loving coming to work every day.
“It was the easiest decision I’ve ever made (to stay).
“I was pretty happy to come to terms quickly and I didn’t want anything sort of hanging over my head too much during the season.”
The Bulldogs’ backline has been bolstered by the off-season recruitment of Alex Keath from Adelaide.
Crozier predicted Keath would make a big imprint at his new home.
“He’s slotted in seamlessly,” he said.
“He’s a great bloke and very professional the way he goes about his business.
“The club obviously targeted him and he really suits our game style as he is a very good intercept defender who can also hold down a one-on-one.
“It helps out our backline as we were playing relatively small last year and it allows guys like Easton Wood to be a little bit further up now.
“We’re building some good continuity together and it’s something that’s obviously going to take time, but I feel like we’ve gotten off to a good start.”
bornadog
06-03-2020, 11:37 AM
Hayden's cousin is Nick Truelson, the Chief Commercial Officer
Eastdog
06-03-2020, 11:37 AM
Hayden's cousin is Nick Truelson, the Chief Commercial Officer
I didn’t know that.
comrade
06-03-2020, 12:54 PM
Can we get Zac Williams' cousin a job?
azabob
06-03-2020, 12:56 PM
Crozier was interviewed on RSN this morning for those interested. Hopefully BAD or Axe can track it down and post the link. I’m not clever enough to do it on my phone.
azabob
06-03-2020, 12:57 PM
Can we get Zac Williams' cousin a job?
Or his dad as a recruiter.
Axe Man
06-03-2020, 01:18 PM
Crozier was interviewed on RSN this morning for those interested. Hopefully BAD or Axe can track it down and post the link. I’m not clever enough to do it on my phone.
Can't find anything from RSN but there is this from SEN:
“WE’VE GOT TO DARE TO DREAM”: BULLDOGS STRIVING FOR PREMIERSHIP GLORY (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/03/06/weve-got-to-dare-to-dream-bulldogs-striving-for-september-glory/)
Hayden Crozier says there’s no reason why the Western Bulldogs can’t add a third premiership cup to its trophy cabinet.
Fresh off inking a three-year deal on Thursday, Crozier is daring to dream of September glory in 2020.
When asked by SEN’s The Captain’s Run host Kane Cornes whether the Bulldogs can win the flag, Crozier replied: “I don’t see why not.
“We obviously just want to take it one week at a time, but we’ve got to dare to dream.
“We built some good momentum towards the backend of last year and we understand that we need to start the year off well and go week by week.
“I think we’ve got the pieces to contend over the next few years.”
The Dogs were soundly beaten by GWS in last year’s elimination final after entering the finals as one of the form teams of the competition.
Saturday's match against Port Adelaide rounds out their Marsh Series campaign before they take on Collingwood in a Round 1 blockbuster on March 20.
Audio Link (https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=585225)
strebla
06-03-2020, 05:41 PM
In years gone we were so bad at this I am so happy to see us wrap up key signings early rather than waiting. This type of professional approach could have kept Cal Ward at the club glad we are learning from previous mistakes.
Bulldog4life
07-03-2020, 01:02 PM
In years gone we were so bad at this I am so happy to see us wrap up key signings early rather than waiting. This type of professional approach could have kept Cal Ward at the club glad we are learning from previous mistakes.
Yes Sam Power has done a great job for us. Full credit to him and the club.
Axe Man
25-03-2020, 12:40 PM
The early re-signing of our most important players is looking even smarter now.
Contract talks stop: Big names in limbo as COVID causes cash crisis (https://www.afl.com.au/news/390012/contract-talks-stop-big-names-in-limbo-as-covid-causes-cash-crisis)
Clubs use the summer months and pre-season period to start negotiations with player agents, hoping to lock in some of their most important personnel.
But those plans have gone awry with the AFL suspending its season due to the COVID-19 threat, with the majority of list management and recruiting teams stood down across the competition.
Player managers and clubs have also been told that any contracts lodged in the foreseeable future will not be approved by the League as it comes to grips with the massive economic hit the AFL will take as a result of the pandemic and what it will mean for player salaries and club lists.
Discussions for a new contract for Wood, who handed over the Dogs' captaincy to Marcus Bontempelli ahead of 2020, were also underway but have been halted.
Axe Man
07-08-2020, 10:25 AM
Mega-deal coming? Dogs start talks on new contract for superstar (https://www.afl.com.au/news/481628/mega-deal-coming-dogs-start-talks-on-new-contract-for-superstar)
Western Bulldogs CEO Ameet Bains says the club is keen to re-sign skipper Marcus Bontempelli ahead of next year
THE WESTERN Bulldogs aim to lock in captain Marcus Bontempelli to a new deal before he reaches free agency next year after beginning contract discussions earlier this season.
The Dogs superstar's deal ties him to the Bulldogs until the end of 2021, when he will be a restricted free agent, but the club is working on an extension.
Bontempelli signed a two-year contract extension in November, 2018, a year before that contract was due to end and Bulldogs chief executive Ameet Bains said the club would aim for the same timeline for his next deal after the AFL's contract freeze was ended.
"Yeah definitely. With the prohibition on concluding contracts only being lifted recently, I think contracts like Marcus' come back on the table," Bains told AFL.com.au's Footy Feed podcast.
"I know (Bulldogs list manager) Sam Power and Tom Petroro, who manages Marcus, had some preliminary discussions earlier in the year.
"We'd be keen to do that. Clearly Marcus as our new captain in 2020 is really deeply committed to the club as well, so I think that will happen over the coming months and will be terrific for our club as well."
Bontempelli could be due for a mega-deal, with star players often securing long and lucrative extensions before they reach free agency for the first time.
The 24-year-old took over the Bulldogs' captaincy at the end of last year and is a three-time best and fairest winner and two-time Virgin Australia AFL All-Australian.
His contract talks will be a priority for the Dogs this year who, under list boss Power, have locked away most of their young talent beyond 2020.
Premiership skipper Easton Wood, who handed the captaincy on to Bontempelli, falls out of contract at the end of this season and had opened talks prior to the COVID-19 enforced contract shutdown in March.
The AFL last month lifted the contract freeze after the players union agreed to their compressed fixture block.
Hotdog60
07-08-2020, 10:49 AM
Interesting to see what sort of contract we offer the Bont.
I hope for Marcus and our sake the hip doesn't become an issue. I think we should give him 7 years so he is lock away.
Happy Days
07-08-2020, 10:56 AM
Pay the man.
EasternWest
07-08-2020, 03:23 PM
Pay the man.
Pay the man.
bornadog
07-08-2020, 03:23 PM
Pay the man.
Pay him and more
comrade
07-08-2020, 05:04 PM
https://i.ibb.co/7r1xGvk/tenor-2.gif (https://imgbb.com/)
The Doctor
08-08-2020, 02:10 PM
The uncontracted list
Easton Wood: 2020
Billy Gowers: 2020
Fergus Greene: 2020
Jackson Trengove: 2020
Taylor Duryea: 2020
Lin Jong: 2020
Brad Lynch: 2020
Ben Cavarra: 2020
Will Hayes: 2020
Callum Porter: 2020 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-08-14/two-young-dogs-resign)
Tory Dickson: 2020
Matt Suckling: 2020 (FA)
Lachie Young: 2020 (Rookie)
Jordan Sweet: 2020 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-08-14/two-young-dogs-resign) (Rookie)
Roarke Smith: 2020 (Rookie)
Ryan Gardner: 2020 (Rookie)
Buku Khamis: 2020 (Rookie)
Easton Wood aside, most if not all of these boys will need a big finish to the season to earn a new contract. I can see a clean out coming if we don't make finals.
Mantis
08-08-2020, 02:21 PM
Easton Wood aside, most if not all of these boys will need a big finish to the season to earn a new contract. I can see a clean out coming if we don't make finals.
Why wouldn’t Easton Wood need to finish the year strongly?
He’s form has been average at best for the past 4 or so years and whilst he’s of great character surely we need to determine if he’s part of the future.
soupman
08-08-2020, 02:33 PM
Amazing really. You could probably only make a case for Dickson, Suckling, Wood, Duryea and Trengove even contributing in the last two years, and maybe one of them were genuinely pretty good in that time period. On top of that basically none of these players have shown signs of being a better than average footballer. Really highlights how generous our list management policy is.
Grantysghost
08-08-2020, 02:59 PM
Why wouldn’t Easton Wood need to finish the year strongly?
He’s form has been average at best for the past 4 or so years and whilst he’s of great character surely we need to determine if he’s part of the future.
I would expect one year contracts for Easton from here on out. Matthew Boyd style.
Grantysghost
27-08-2020, 12:12 AM
Just found this list from another thread I was researching.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/to-western-bulldogs
Ahh....Crozier ? Bailey Smith ? Is this accurate ?
Axe Man
27-08-2020, 12:19 AM
Just found this list from another thread I was researching.
https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/to-western-bulldogs
Ahh....Crozier ? Bailey Smith ? Is this accurate ?
Um no, that list is not accurate at all. You don’t need to go further than the op of this thread for contract info.
Both Smith and Crozier’s extension announcements are also linked in the op.
Grantysghost
27-08-2020, 12:33 AM
Um no, that list is not accurate at all. You don’t need to go further than the op of this thread for contract info.
Both Smith and Crozier’s extension announcements are also linked in the op.
Cant believe the internet lied to me. Thanks. I can rest assured Billy and Ryan are safely locked away too....wait...
Grantysghost
27-08-2020, 12:35 AM
Um no, that list is not accurate at all. You don’t need to go further than the op of this thread for contract info.
Both Smith and Crozier’s extension announcements are also linked in the op.
Seriously thanks I just remembered what a sticky thread was. Keep up the good work.
azabob
27-08-2020, 08:17 AM
Um no, that list is not accurate at all. You don’t need to go further than the op of this thread for contract info.
Both Smith and Crozier’s extension announcements are also linked in the op.
Cant believe the internet lied to me. Thanks. I can rest assured Billy and Ryan are safely locked away too....wait...
Seriously thanks I just remembered what a sticky thread was. Keep up the good work.
This thread just keeps giving and giving....
Grantysghost
27-08-2020, 04:42 PM
This thread just keeps giving and giving....
Serious facepalm by me realising how much great work Axeman has done and here’s me believing some common internet rabble! I’ve politely informed them of their error.
1eyedog
27-08-2020, 06:47 PM
Um no, that list is not accurate at all. You don’t need to go further than the op of this thread for contract info.
Both Smith and Crozier’s extension announcements are also linked in the op.
Like a slap in the face everytime.
EasternWest
27-08-2020, 10:47 PM
Um no, that list is not accurate at all. You don’t need to go further than the op of this thread for contract info.
Both Smith and Crozier’s extension announcements are also linked in the op.
You should sticky this thread, Axe
Grantysghost
27-08-2020, 10:57 PM
You should sticky this thread, Axe
Can we start a thread about piling on idiots who don't realise its a sticky thread?
I've just checked futystats.deepweb and they say Billy is secured until 2022 can we verify this?
azabob
28-08-2020, 08:42 AM
Can we start a thread about piling on idiots who don't realise its a sticky thread?
I've just checked futystats.deepweb and they say Billy is secured until 2022 can we verify this?
Nah, its much more fun watching Axeman have his gears grinded.
azabob
28-08-2020, 08:43 AM
You should sticky this thread, Axe
Makes sense to, quiet logically actually. Wonder why it hasn't been?
Happy Days
28-08-2020, 10:23 AM
Can we start a thread about piling on idiots who don't realise its a sticky thread?
I've just checked futystats.deepweb and they say Billy is secured until 2022 can we verify this?
Gowers is out of contract at the end of the year, I know because I have the individual days marked out on a giant whiteboard hanging in my living room.
Topdog
28-08-2020, 10:55 AM
Makes sense to, quiet logically actually. Wonder why it hasn't been?
Funnily enough I always go to the new posts page and never seen the threads so I would miss this if i wanted to check it out.
azabob
28-08-2020, 10:57 AM
Funnily enough I always go to the new posts page and never seen the threads so I would miss this if i wanted to check it out.
Same as me. Its the only way to keep up!
EasternWest
28-08-2020, 12:42 PM
Nah, its much more fun watching Axeman have his gears grinded.
I'm going to persist with this gag until Axe responds. Then I'm going to persist harder.
Axe Man
28-08-2020, 12:48 PM
In response to this insubordination I'm going to pay a Russian hacker (need to be careful with the spelling there) to produce a legitimate looking article on the Bulldogs website announcing 10 year deals for Gowers and Gardner.
EasternWest
28-08-2020, 01:19 PM
I'm going to persist with this gag until Axe responds. Then I'm going to persist harder.
In response to this insubordination I'm going to pay a Russian hacker (need to be careful with the spelling there) to produce a legitimate looking article on the Bulldogs website announcing 10 year deals for Gowers and Gardner.
Got him!
Joke's on you. I want both those guys on long term contracts.
azabob
28-08-2020, 01:21 PM
In response to this insubordination I'm going to pay a Russian hacker (need to be careful with the spelling there) to produce a legitimate looking article on the Bulldogs website announcing 10 year deals for Gowers and Gardner.
Clearly Grantyghost has already found the russian hacker just ask him for the details.
jeemak
29-08-2020, 03:19 PM
What a resource.
So what is actually going on with our re-signings at the moment? A lot of clubs starting to re-sign key talent, I don’t think I’ve heard anything about our players in months now.
bornadog
31-08-2020, 11:42 PM
So what is actually going on with our re-signings at the moment? A lot of clubs starting to re-sign key talent, I don’t think I’ve heard anything about our players in months now.
AFL has put a restriction to all contract signings. Not sure if it is totally lifted. Axeman - help
Axe Man
01-09-2020, 10:47 AM
So what is actually going on with our re-signings at the moment? A lot of clubs starting to re-sign key talent, I don’t think I’ve heard anything about our players in months now.
AFL has put a restriction to all contract signings. Not sure if it is totally lifted. Axeman - help
Contracts were frozen in March because of Covid - no contracts could be signed. I believe this was lifted in late July as part of the AFLPA negotiations in extending the hub stays.
Since then there has been a few reported re-signings but I haven't seen anything more than a trickle. I would imagine it is still quite difficult for clubs to commit without knowing the size of playing lists and the salary cap.
I think we were quite fortunate that most of our key re-signings were done before the contract freeze. I don't think there are too many concerns about who is left. We should be able to re-sign who we want from here.
ledge
04-09-2020, 09:42 PM
Contracts were frozen in March because of Covid - no contracts could be signed. I believe this was lifted in late July as part of the AFLPA negotiations in extending the hub stays.
Since then there has been a few reported re-signings but I haven't seen anything more than a trickle. I would imagine it is still quite difficult for clubs to commit without knowing the size of playing lists and the salary cap.
I think we were quite fortunate that most of our key re-signings were done before the contract freeze. I don't think there are too many concerns about who is left. We should be able to re-sign who we want from here.
Also noticed a lot are ones who had performance Based extensions.
The Doctor
08-09-2020, 07:29 AM
Ryan Gardner: 2020 (Rookie)
He's earnt a new contract me thinks
Axe Man
09-09-2020, 10:53 AM
Wood’s new deal nearly done (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/809662/wood-s-new-deal-nearly-done?fbclid=IwAR1qbSERQ-qk68ic558wUFixyrCBZV-J-k2GculxDN_-Jdw7RDGHVUn8wxQ)
THE WESTERN Bulldogs have all but locked in 2016 premiership skipper Easton Wood to a new contract.
Discussions on a deal for the important defender had started prior to the COVID-19 contract freeze but were delayed as the AFL prohibited clubs from confirming any extensions.
However the Dogs are set to secure Wood for what is expected to be another two years, taking the 31-year-old through to the end of 2022.
Wood told AFL.com.au this week he was keen to put pen to paper.
"It's as good as done, which is really positive. I'll be here for a little while yet," Wood said.
"There's just a few formalities and bits and pieces to tidy up so it's not technically done yet but I'm not going to be anywhere else."
Wood loomed as the Bulldogs' priority signing this year with the club's list management team having locked away most of their key players beyond 2020.
The high-leaping defender is a chance to return from a hamstring injury against Hawthorn in Adelaide on Sunday after suffering the minor strain against Geelong in round 14.
He remains a key part of the Bulldogs' backline as they attempt to return to the finals after a strong run of form in the second half of this season.
The impending contract extension will see Wood, who skippered the Dogs to their historic premiership four years ago as injured captain Bob Murphy's stand-in, be a Bulldog for life.
He took on the role permanently for the 2018-19 seasons before handing on the job to superstar midfielder Marcus Bontempelli ahead of the 2020 campaign.
bornadog
09-09-2020, 10:55 AM
Good news, we need to keep some older wiser heads, especially in the backline.
comrade
09-09-2020, 10:56 AM
2 years for a 31 year old with a long history of soft tissue issues?
Axe Man
09-09-2020, 10:57 AM
2 years for a 31 year old with a long history of soft tissue issues?
I'm not sure why he couldn't be signed on 1 year deals from here as many players over 30 do?
bornadog
09-09-2020, 11:03 AM
2 years for a 31 year old with a long history of soft tissue issues?
Other than 2018 injuries he has not missed many games over the last 6 years. In fact an average of 3 per year (discounting 2018)
Happy Days
09-09-2020, 11:04 AM
I don't see the need for the second year but it's not exactly backbreaking either.
Happy to have Woody sign on for another 2.
bulldogsthru&thru
09-09-2020, 12:28 PM
Let's face it, we need all the leadership we can get. On form alone, 2 years might be 1 too many but I think his experience and leadership warrant an extra year. If Morris was one year younger he'd be an enormous difference for us this season.
Grantysghost
09-09-2020, 12:31 PM
I thought 1, but I'm ok with 2. Looking after the premiership captain I can live with it.
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