View Full Version : What does the ladder show us?
bulldogtragic
25-08-2019, 06:06 PM
Wins:
We were a mere 3 wins off contending for the top 4. We dropped games against GCS, Carlton, St Kilda & North all at Marvel.
Perhaps with consistency against lower/poorer sides, next year we can contend. An area we can improve no doubt.
For:
We are third for scoring. Just 43 points off Geelong and 63 points off Brisbane.
If we managed to improve our goal kicking accuracy by even 2 goals a game, we'd be 180 points higher than Brisbane this year (the only team to crack 2000 points). We pound on the pain, but there's still a lot of improvement to increase our pain giving. Hopefully the footy department spend some coin to fix this.
Against:
We are sixth last for scores against. Not great.
The questions here are whether newly acquired personnel in key position defence can help? Is it a new defensive coach with new ideas? Is it the structure and personnel further up the ground? Or something else again, or a little bit of everything?
Playing finals and with so much obvious growth to come!
Doggy
25-08-2019, 06:37 PM
It shows we have beaten the first, second and third best teams this year.
They will all be looking over their shoulders if we beat GWS.
The Doctor
25-08-2019, 06:39 PM
Wins:
We are sixth last for scores against. Not great.
The questions here are whether newly acquired personnel in key position defence can help? Is it a new defensive coach with new ideas? Is it the structure and personnel further up the ground? Or something else again, or a little bit of everything?
It will be interesting to see where we rank on points against since the bye.
Topdog
25-08-2019, 07:36 PM
It will be interesting to see where we rank on points against since the bye.
After round 11 we were second last with 1001 points against (Melbourne worst with 1004). Ended up on 1810 so 809 conceded in the last 11 games. It's hard to tell exactly but looks like around 8th
ledge
25-08-2019, 07:40 PM
Wins:
We were a mere 3 wins off contending for the top 4. We dropped games against GCS, Carlton, St Kilda & North all at Marvel.
Perhaps with consistency against lower/poorer sides, next year we can contend. An area we can improve no doubt.
For:
We are third for scoring. Just 43 points off Geelong and 63 points off Brisbane.
If we managed to improve our goal kicking accuracy by even 2 goals a game, we'd be 180 points higher than Brisbane this year (the only team to crack 2000 points). We pound on the pain, but there's still a lot of improvement to increase our pain giving. Hopefully the footy department spend some coin to fix this.
Against:
We are sixth last for scores against. Not great.
The questions here are whether newly acquired personnel in key position defence can help? Is it a new defensive coach with new ideas? Is it the structure and personnel further up the ground? Or something else again, or a little bit of everything?
Playing finals and with so much obvious growth to come!
Apparently you have to tell coaches by August if they are staying , we didn’t “delist “ any so I see no changes in coaches.
bornadog
25-08-2019, 07:53 PM
1. 2. 3. We have beaten the top 3 teams
4. We lost to Collinwood by 14 and 9 points. Should have won the second time but kept missing goals.
5. Lost West Coast
6. Beat GWS
8. Beat Essendon
So, only West Coast really belted us.
Dry Rot
25-08-2019, 08:22 PM
So, only West Coast really belted us.
Was that in the West?
Eastdog
25-08-2019, 08:23 PM
Was that in the West?
Yep in Perth at Optus Stadium we played them.
GVGjr
25-08-2019, 08:24 PM
I think it shows we had a great draw and we can mix it with most teams
Fear no one from this point forward
azabob
25-08-2019, 08:38 PM
We were a much more settled team in the second half of the year. As a result we became more predictable too each other which meant we could score more freely and defended better as a team.
I don’t think too many changes are required, just a tweak here and there.
josie
25-08-2019, 08:56 PM
We need a key back that can compete with monster forwards (who is reasonably agile).
Dry Rot
25-08-2019, 09:19 PM
We were a much more settled team in the second half of the year. As a result we became more predictable too each other which meant we could score more freely and defended better as a team.
I don’t think too many changes are required, just a tweak here and there.
We also had real forwards playing in the forward line.
For me, two huge changes in the second half of the season.
One was that the team was far more settled - forwards as forwards, mids as mids etc.
Secondly our defensive positioning seemed far better after the bye - and that helped limit the scores against.
Add that to young players developing more consistency as the season wore on, and Bontempelli, Dunkley and Macrae playing their absolute best footy - and the recipe was there.
jazzadogs
25-08-2019, 11:34 PM
It shows me that Josh Schache's final quarter from the gods against Hawthorn, and Sicily's brain fade, got us into the finals ahead of the Dawks. 30 points down 7 minutes into the last quarter, turned into a 19 point win! We can bemoan the ones we lost, but how important did those four points end up!
Bulldog4life
26-08-2019, 10:39 AM
We also had real forwards playing in the forward line.
Even Bevo said this in his presser after the Giants game.
Mofra
26-08-2019, 11:46 AM
It shows us that in terms of list profile and maturity we are by far the outlier.
bulldogtragic
26-08-2019, 11:51 AM
On the For/Against. If we can convert better (even just two goals a game) we will score the most next year if we can keep playing like this. But how do we pull back 2 goals game defensively or better (264 points cross the season)?
Mofra
26-08-2019, 11:58 AM
On the For/Against. If we can convert better (even just two goals a game) we will score the most next year if we can keep playing like this. But how do we pull back 2 goals game defensively or better (264 points cross the season)?
I think we already have, the first 11 rounds were woeful (4-7 record) and we completely turned it around afterwards.
I'd imagine we address that at the trade table as well as the current midfield set up does run both ways.
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