Surprising stats

[Mofra]

There are far better stats gurus out there than myself, but I thought it would be good to have an area to post any stat you stumble across that is surprising.

First cab off the rank: Jackson Macrae is equal third in the competition for goal assists with 22. Bonti is two behind in 20.

[Twodogs]

Great thread. Thanks to Swamp on twitter:

Most Finals campaigns in @AFL
era
23 WCE
22
21 GEEL
20 SYD
19
18 HAW
17 ESS
16 NTH
15 ADEL COLL
14 WBD
13
12
11 BRIS CARL STK
10 MELB PORT
9
8 RICH
7 FREM
6
5
4 GWS
3
2
1
0 GCS

us playing in 14 finals series since 1990 would surprise a few of even our own supporters I think. That very nearly a finals spot every two years.

[bornadog]

Great thread. Thanks to Swamp on twitter:

Most Finals campaigns in @AFL
era
23 WCE
22
21 GEEL
20 SYD
19
18 HAW
17 ESS
16 NTH
15 ADEL COLL
14 WBD
13
12
11 BRIS CARL STK
10 MELB PORT
9
8 RICH
7 FREM
6
5
4 GWS
3
2
1
0 GCS

us playing in 14 finals series since 1990 would surprise a few of even our own supporters I think. That very nearly a finals spot every two years.

Including Prelims in 92, 97,98, 2008,2009,2010, 2016

[Twodogs]

Including Prelims in 92, 97,98, 2008,2009,2010, 2016

Yeah true. Plus a mystifying appearance in 1994 when we finished 5th, lost our first final (oh Billy you will be the king of Geelong tonight) but still went through to the semi final stage so we went deep quite a few times but couldn't get over the hump.

[Twodogs]

Wins in Finals for FOOTS/WBD
1x: 66 players
2x: 41 players
3x: 19 players
4x: 34 players
5x: Easton Wood
6x: Ted Whitten, Brad Johnson, Liam Picken
7x: DALE MORRIS
8x: Matthew Boyd

[Bulldog Joe]

Wins in Finals for FOOTS/WBD
1x: 66 players
2x: 41 players
3x: 19 players
4x: 34 players
5x: Easton Wood
6x: Ted Whitten, Brad Johnson, Liam Picken
7x: DALE MORRIS
8x: Matthew Boyd

Hopefully this will need updating on September 29 2019.

[Axe Man]

Hopefully this will need updating on September 29 2019.

Easton Wood to take the lead with 9 finals wins?

[bulldogtragic]

Jack Macrae this year is the only player in the entire competition to be Top 10 Contested Possessions & Top 10 Uncontested Possessions.

Hurt you in the inside, hurt you on the outside. Hurt you all over.

[Eastdog]

Jack Macrae this year is the only player in the entire competition to be Top 10 Contested Possessions & Top 10 Uncontested Possessions.

Hurt you in the inside, hurt you on the outside. Hurt you all over.

He is a gun!

[jazzadogs]

We have had one of the most settled sides for the season, with 9 players playing every game and another only missing one. Only Brisbane (11) has had more play every game.

Can we name all 9?

[ratsmac]

We have had one of the most settled sides for the season, with 9 players playing every game and another only missing one. Only Brisbane (11) has had more play every game.

Can we name all 9?

Without looking it up I'll go

Wood, Cordy, Bont, Macrae, B Smith, Hunter, Dunks, Naughton, Lloyd

[jazzadogs]

Without looking it up I'll go

Wood, Cordy, Bont, Macrae, B Smith, Hunter, Dunks, Naughton, Lloyd

Bingo. Crozier only missed one.

[AshMac]

Article on afl.com about our goal kicking with a nice table on the difference in key stats between rounds 1-18 and rounds 19-23. Thats some form we're steam rolling into finals in.

Look at the goal kicking!

948

[bornadog]

Article on afl.com about our goal kicking with a nice table on the difference in key stats between rounds 1-18 and rounds 19-23. Thats some form we're steam rolling into finals in.

Look at the goal kicking!

948

Look at that Defence - 14th to 5th best.

[1eyedog]

Wow we are smashing it. Need to maintain the rage.

[Dancin' Douggy]

That is a beautiful spreadsheet.

Article on afl.com about our goal kicking with a nice table on the difference in key stats between rounds 1-18 and rounds 19-23. Thats some form we're steam rolling into finals in.

Look at the goal kicking!

948

[Bulldog Joe]

That is a beautiful spreadsheet.

The most impressive part of all that, is that we were playing contenders in those improved performances.

[AshMac]

I’m actually a little nervous after the bye round now. I feel we’ve had a run of 2016 finals form up until round 23 and really hoping the bye doesn’t dull that momentum.

It could just be a weekend without footy after living round to round on a top 8 finish too tbh...

[The bulldog tragician]

We were the youngest and most experienced side on the weekend... and also fielded 10 premiership players!

[Dancin' Douggy]

I’m actually a little nervous after the bye round now. I feel we’ve had a run of 2016 finals form up until round 23 and really hoping the bye doesn’t dull that momentum.

It could just be a weekend without footy after living round to round on a top 8 finish too tbh...

Yeah well everyone else is in the same boat. It's not like we're the only team that had the bye. AND we had the same scenario in 2016.
Don't worry about it. we are FLYING!!!

[Eastdog]

Article on afl.com about our goal kicking with a nice table on the difference in key stats between rounds 1-18 and rounds 19-23. Thats some form we're steam rolling into finals in.

Look at the goal kicking!

948

Really refreshing to see that. Great stat. We are actually kicking some healthy scores. Our defence as well has been excellent.

[AshMac]

Yeah well everyone else is in the same boat. It's not like we're the only team that had the bye. AND we had the same scenario in 2016.
Don't worry about it. we are FLYING!!!

True, lots of comparisons between 2016 and now - true in the way we're playing, not so in the broader context. In the way we've played the last few weeks there are distinct similarities - our handball effectiveness, the spread from contests and the running in waves - but we limped into the finals in 2016 and the bye regenerated our ranks. This year we're going in with a full head of steam and ready to bulldoze anything in our way. I'm not writing us off, did that at the start of the year and was wrong - saturday afternoons final will be the best game of the weekend IMO.

[bornadog]

Average marks inside 50 - Orange = top 8 teams

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDlfCiNVAAAPrC-?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Dancin' Douggy]

What the????

Average marks inside 50

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDlfCiNVAAAPrC-?format=jpg&name=900x900

[hujsh]

Average marks inside 50

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDlfCiNVAAAPrC-?format=jpg&name=900x900

Does the orange vs grey denote anything significant?

[Mofra]

Does the orange vs grey denote anything significant?
Top 8 sides as I read it

[bornadog]

Top 8 sides as I read it

Yes, I should have noted that

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDmcLlyXoAA65ge?format=jpg&name=large

[AshMac]

Average marks inside 50 - Orange = top 8 teams

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDlfCiNVAAAPrC-?format=jpg&name=900x900


I'd love to see this split out between th front and back half of the year. I expect there wouldnt be a huge difference on number alone, its the efficiency inside 50 and control through the middle leading to better deliver into the F50 that improved our outcomes.

[bornadog]

I'd love to see this split out between th front and back half of the year. I expect there wouldnt be a huge difference on number alone, its the efficiency inside 50 and control through the middle leading to better deliver into the F50 that improved our outcomes.

Not much difference for marks inside 50, between the two halves. The big difference has been the defensive side, especially stopping the opposition from scoring.

[AshMac]

Not much difference for marks inside 50, between the two halves. The big difference has been the defensive side, especially stopping the opposition from scoring.

And our scoring from opportunities

[bornadog]

And our scoring from opportunities

Here are the stats for goal kicking



Round
For
Against


R1
82
65


R2
106
87


R3
68
73


R4
64
78


R5
57
101


R6
69
88


R7
99
52


R8
92
76


R9
89
133


R10
90
115


R11
72
133


Total
888
1001


average
80.7
91







R13
103
100


R14
73
82


R15
66
41


R16
71
55


R17
74
66


R18
89
116


R19
113
66


R20
80
98


R21
137
33


R22
126
65


R23
121
87


Total
1053
809


average
95.7
73.5



We kicked an average of 15 more points and allowed 17.5 fewer points.

[AshMac]

Here are the stats for goal kicking



Round
For
Against


R1
82
65


R2
106
87


R3
68
73


R4
64
78


R5
57
101


R6
69
88


R7
99
52


R8
92
76


R9
89
133


R10
90
115


R11
72
133


Total
888
1001


average
80.7
91







R13
103
100


R14
73
82


R15
66
41


R16
71
55


R17
74
66


R18
89
116


R19
113
66


R20
80
98


R21
137
33


R22
126
65


R23
121
87


Total
1053
809


average
95.7
73.5



We kicked an average of 15 more points and allowed 17.5 fewer points.

Remarkable result - a 32.5 turnaround. Still think the major reason is our increased pressure in and better delivery from the middle.

Fingers crossed the momentum carries on tomorrow

[bornadog]

Remarkable result - a 32.5 turnaround. Still think the major reason is our increased pressure in and better delivery from the middle.

Fingers crossed the momentum carries on tomorrow

Increased pressure is all part of the better defense all over the ground.

[bornadog]

Wins since 2015

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEoiTOuUEAA1ifa?format=jpg&name=medium

[AshMac]

Wins since 2015

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEoiTOuUEAA1ifa?format=jpg&name=medium

8th best in comp in wins.

Equal 1st in no. of premierships

😁

[AshMac]

Don’t read zero hanger too much; but recent post has 3 of our players in the top 10 brownlow votes which would be just delightful.

https://www.zerohanger.com/top-10-brownlow-medal-contenders-34768/amp/

10. Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs)

Dunkley is only a 0.18% chance to win the medal, but the young Bulldog shot into the Brownlow discussion after a brilliant second half of the season. Dunkley averaged 28.3 disposals per game for the Dogs, while also averaging 6.1 tackles per game. He is an up and coming star of the competition and one to watch for in the coming years.


9. Adam Treloar (Collingwood)

Treloar is a mere 0.27% chance to win the Brownlow, but the Pies star had yet another brilliant season, leading the entire AFL in total disposals (767 disposals) on an average of 33.3 disposals per game. Treloar’s running power and ability to find the ball consistently were a massive factor in the Pies’ top four finish and he should poll well.

8. Patrick Cripps (Carlton)

Cripps is a 2.8% chance to take home the Charlie and was the big shining light all year for a young Carlton team, averaging 28 disposals per game and 6.2 tackles per game. In games where Carlton won or were very competitive, Cripps should poll well for the Blues and could be a sneaky chance to crack the top 5 come the end of the night.

7. Tim Kelly (Geelong)

Kelly is a 2.9% chance for the Brownlow medal and should poll well given the Cats’ strong 2019 season. Kelly averaged 25.5 disposals and 4.3 tackles per game in 2019, and was massively influential all season for a Geelong team that was the team to beat for the most part of the season.

6. Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)

Macrae is a 3.7% chance to win on the back of a fantastic 2019 season which saw him join Adam Treloar as the leading disposal getter in the entire competition. Macrae averaged 33.3 disposals per game and was a major factor in a Bulldogs midfield loaded with talent. Should poll consistently.

5. Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)

Grundy is a 4.4% chance for the medal and really staked his claim as the best ruckman in the competition with a brilliant and consistent showing all season. Grundy averaged 21.1 disposals per game whilst also averaging 41.1 hit outs per game. Grundy has been the man all season for the Pies in the ruck and could sneakily poll very well.

4. Lachie Neale (Brisbane)

Neale is a 7.5% chance of taking out the Brownlow after a fantastic first season in a Brisbane Lions outfit. Neale averaged 31.5 disposals per game in 2019 including a 51 disposal performance against Richmond in round 23. Neale looks primed to poll well in a Brisbane team that performed well all season long.

3. Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)

Bontempelli has an 18.1% chance of taking out the Brownlow medal and seems a good bet to cause a stir in the pot and poll very well, especially given his start to the season and the Bulldogs’ fantastic finish to the season as a whole. Bontempelli averaged 26.3 disposals and 5.0 tackles per game in 2019, but it’s not the stats that attract, it’s the influence he has on games, and due to that reason, the Bont should poll very well.

2. Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)

Fyfe is a 22.9% chance to win the Brownlow and is always a name that shines bright in the eyes of the umpires. Fyfe had another brilliant season, averaging 29.2 disposals per game and was the major influence in all things surrounding the Dockers. Fyfe will yet again poll well and is a serious chance of taking out the medal.

1.Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)

The favourite to take out the Brownlow, Dangerfield is a 55.7% chance to win the medal and was an ever imposing presence for the Cats all season long. Danger averaged 27.5 disposals, 5.0 marks and 4.3 tackles per game and was the key man for the ladder leading Cats throughout the season. Danger’s finish to the season was particularly immense, and the star Cat should poll very well and is a deserving favourite for the award.

[Twodogs]

I've never sen zerohanger before. Cheers, I love all the 2016 final specials.