Charles Sutton Medal 2019

[bornadog]

October 2nd at Crown Palladium

Who will win this year?

[HOSE B ROMERO]

Jack Macrae for me. I just feel that he might do better within the club than from the umpires. Who votes for the Sutton anyway?

[Ozza]

Bont will win.

If he's good enough to win the coaches votes for the league - then he's going to win the coaches votes for his club. (I know the voting method is different).

[SonofScray]

I'm going this year. Have never been before, looking forward to it.

[ratsmac]

I hope it's Macrae. He's been bridesmaid a few times iirc

[Eastdog]

I’ll go for Jack Macrae as well. Been consistently great all season. Will there be a live stream on our website?

[Eastdog]

I'm going this year. Have never been before, looking forward to it.

Have a good night SOS.

[1eyedog]

Jack Macrae for me too his effort and consistency has to be awarded.

[Bulldog Joe]

I think it will go to Bont.

If Macrae couldn't win last year, I just don't see how he could get it this year.

Josh Dunkley to round out the top 3.

[Ozza]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Hayden Crozier go top 5.

1st: Bont
2nd: Macrae
3rd: Dunks
4th: Crozier
5th: Naughton

[Doc26]

I'm going this year. Have never been before, looking forward to it.

I’ll be there as well SoS. Any other Woofers going?

[Smads57]

I go each year - think Hunter will be in top 5 myself

[Eastdog]

That’s my Wednesday night set.

https://m.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-10-01/watch-the-2019-charles-sutton-medal-event

Watch the 2019 Charles Sutton Medal event
Oct 1, 2019 9:23AM

The Western Bulldogs’ Charles Sutton Medal event will be streamed live on the Club’s website this Wednesday, October 2.

The newest Bulldogs’ AFL Best and Fairest will be crowned, along with a host of other AFL, VFL and VFLW awards, at the Club’s night of nights at Crown Palladium.

Dogs fans unable to attend the evening will get full access to the formalities, including a special tribute to the Club’s retiring premiership stars Dale Morris, Liam Picken and Tom Boyd.

Event timings (approximate times, subject to change)

7.25pm – Event begins.
7.35pm – Welcome by Bulldogs CEO Ameet Bains.
7.58pm – Sutton Medal Rounds 1-10.
8.04pm – VFL Best and Fairest and Coaches Award.
8.09pm - VFLW Best and Fairest and Coaches Award.
8.55pm - Sutton Medal Rounds 11-20.
9.05pm – 2019 retirees’ tribute.
10.05pm – Address by Senior Coach Luke Beveridge.
10.15pm – AFL Awards – Most Improved, Best First Year Player, Most Improved, Best Team Player, Most Courageous, John Van Groningen Domestique Award.
10.30pm - Sutton Medal Round 21-Elimination Final.
10.40pm – AFL Gary Dempsey Medal announcement.
10.50pm – AFL Doug Hawkins Medal announcement.
11pm – AFL Charles Sutton Medal announcement.

[dadsgirl16]

I will be there..really hope Jack Macrae wins it but I think Bonti will
Am sure it doesn’t worry Jack but it’s like he is always the bridesmaid

[SquirrelGrip]

I expect Caleb to be leading at the time he is injured.

[Go_Dogs]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Hayden Crozier go top 5.

1st: Bont
2nd: Macrae
3rd: Dunks
4th: Crozier
5th: Naughton

Agree, Crozier will be very prominent. Wouldn’t surprise if he finished top 3 for his consistency across the season.

[choconmientay]

3% up in membership
6% up in attendance
2 wins in Ballarat

[Eastdog]

3% up in membership
6% up in attendance
2 wins in Ballarat

Great results

[AndrewP6]

Strange telecast. Was expecting a round by round announcement, similar to the Brownlow. Instead we get an update after round 10, then a 2nd half update? And a break in which we see videos repeated on a loop. Weird.

[bornadog]

Strange telecast. Was expecting a round by round announcement, similar to the Brownlow. Instead we get an update after round 10, then a 2nd half update? And a break in which we see videos repeated on a loop. Weird.

they do that every year

[AndrewP6]

they do that every year

Fair enough, not what I was expecting. Terrific speeches from the retirees. Jake Landsberger, what a champion of the club. I've got something in my eye.

[bornadog]

Dunks played with a broken rib over the last few games

[bornadog]

Aaron Naughton, Coaches Award

[bornadog]

Bailey Smith - Best first year player

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF39DFKXkAACVjU?format=jpg&name=900x900

[AndrewP6]

Bailey Smith thanks his 'missus':D

[bornadog]

Dunks - Most improved player ( back to back )

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF3-Cu8XUAE1HU2?format=jpg&name=large

[bornadog]

Sam Lloyd - Best team Player

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF3-Yw1W4AA8Uft?format=jpg&name=900x900

[bornadog]

Caleb Daniel - Most Courageous

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF3_OR4X0AIBcEI?format=jpg&name=large

[bornadog]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF3_-UaXYAI93zP?format=jpg&name=900x900

[bornadog]

Third Place

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF4BmAeX0AIax8x?format=jpg&name=900x900

[bornadog]

2nd Place

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF4C7mHXkAwvD67?format=jpg&name=900x900

[bornadog]

THE BONT for number 3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF4EWLKWoAE8FeW?format=jpg&name=large

[Hotdog60]

Bevo lead up for Marcus rings Captain for me.

Interesting mentioning flying the flag for him may be too much in it but could reference a lack of it against Green.

[bornadog]

Marcus Bontempelli is 23

2xAll-Australian
3xbest and fairest
1xAFLCA player of the year
Premiership player
1xAFLCA best young player
1xAFLPA best first year player
5xAFLPA 22 under 22 selection

[Remi Moses]

3 b and f’s and his only 23
Wow !

[Eastdog]

Congratulations Marcus! Fantastic achievement. 3x Charlie Sutton medalist now.

[Eastdog]

Enjoyed watching that through the live stream. Was a good evening.

[Eastdog]

Fair enough, not what I was expecting. Terrific speeches from the retirees. Jake Landsberger, what a champion of the club. I've got something in my eye.

Yep great tribute for him along with Liam, Tom and Dale.

[The Adelaide Connection]

I watched the stream with headphones on and could hear people talking on stage as it cut to highlight packages etc. After Bevo’s speech I could hear him (I assume) say “f***ing hell, tough crowd!”. :)

[divvydan]

Top 16:

Bont - 299 votes
Dunks - 270
Macrae - 268
JJ - 174
Daniel - 164
Hunter - 161
Wood - 160
Naughton - 154
Lloyd - 153
Crozier - 141
Suckling - 136
Cordy - 130
Duryea - 115
B.Smith - 106
Libba - 98
McLean - 86

[Eastdog]

SonofScray, Smads57 and dadsgirl16 might have some good stories to tell from the night.

[comrade]

Top 10 finish for Lloyd, great effort.

Lloyd > Stringer

[westdog54]

Dunks - Most improved player ( back to back )

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF3-Cu8XUAE1HU2?format=jpg&name=large

That in itself is astonishing. It gives you an indication of the level he's taken his game to over such a short time.

I'm stunned that Crozier only just sneaked into the top 10.

[Doc26]

Dunks played with a broken rib over the last few games

And from round 11, he played with a broken knuckle in his right hand. Had to be jabbed up before each game. Courageous lad.

[AshMac]

Marcus Bontempelli is 23

2xAll-Australian
3xbest and fairest
1xAFLCA player of the year
Premiership player
1xAFLCA best young player
1xAFLPA best first year player
5xAFLPA 22 under 22 selection

Is there a 23 year old with more accolades in the game?

[Bulldog4life]

Great win to Bonti and I think our captain Easton Wood needs to be congratulated on finishing 7th. We sit from a distance to critique his game while those on the MC, who give the votes, really respect what he does for the team on a weekly basis.

[bornadog]

Great win to Bonti and I think our captain Easton Wood needs to be congratulated on finishing 7th. We sit from a distance to critique his game while those on the MC, who give the votes, really respect what he does for the team on a weekly basis.

Good point B4L.

I thought he had his best season since 2016

[GVGjr]

Great win to Bonti and I think our captain Easton Wood needs to be congratulated on finishing 7th. We sit from a distance to critique his game while those on the MC, who give the votes, really respect what he does for the team on a weekly basis.

It might have something to do with a coach rating golden fist qualities more than his mere 11 possessions a game :)
The fact that he finished in front of Crozier is somewhat perplexing

[bornadog]

Love this from Bevo:

“In 2020, we will believe that we are closer than we may be, but we will prepare like we’re further away than ever.” - senior coach Luke Beveridge.

[Bulldog4life]

It might have something to do with a coach rating golden fist qualities more than his mere 11 possessions a game :)
The fact that he finished in front of Crozier is somewhat perplexing

Maybe G he has certain "jobs" that he has to do each week on the opposition that of course we are not aware of but the MC are.

[Mantis]

It might have something to do with a coach rating golden fist qualities more than his mere 11 possessions a game :)
The fact that he finished in front of Crozier is somewhat perplexing

Extremely perplexing given Bevo raised Crozier’s name as a possible AA squad member.

[hujsh]

Sam Lloyd - Best team Player

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EF3-Yw1W4AA8Uft?format=jpg&name=900x900

That one surprised me quite a bit. Not exactly the first guy that comes to mind when I think 'team first'. Though his willingness to take the shot is probably selflessness in the context of this team

[lemmon]

Extremely perplexing given Bevo raised Crozier’s name as a possible AA squad member.

Not sure who votes on the BnF, but maybe Bevo's view was different to a few of the other judges.

[Bulldog4life]

Not sure who votes on the BnF, but maybe Bevo's view was different to a few of the other judges.

The MC.

[Grantysghost]

I went along last night, its getting bigger every year it seems with the inclusion of the women's teams. Think there was 1400 in attendance.
Highlight was the retirement speeches especially Brad Johnson's for Dale Morris. Hopefully it's made available on the website soon. He had video clips from players including Nick Riewoldt, Jonathon Brown and Eddie Betts. Oh and some bloke called Chris Hemsworth.
I was struck by how entrenched the club doctors are in the lives of especially the footy department. Dr Landsberger was truly loved and will be sorely missed. Great night, club is in very good hands at the moment.

https://i.postimg.cc/XYjQ6cx1/20191002-214417.jpg (https://postimg.cc/3dqggGs2)

[GVGjr]

Maybe G he has certain "jobs" that he has to do each week on the opposition that of course we are not aware of but the MC are.

If the job was staying away from the ball, then mission complete :)
I think it's a questionable voting format for a player to have his worst season in a number of years finish in our top 7 players for the season. Ahead of Naughton and Crozier? No way.

I need to put my thinking cap on and try and recall who he actually beat convincingly. I can recall one or two but equally I can recall him getting towelled up as well

[Scorlibo]

If the job was staying away from the ball, then mission complete :)
I think it's a questionable voting format for a player to have his worst season in a number of years finish in our top 7 players for the season. Ahead of Naughton and Crozier? No way.

I need to put my thinking cap on and try and recall who he actually beat convincingly. I can recall one or two but equally I can recall him getting towelled up as well

I think the coaches would have rated Easton's value in the scheme of him leading a defensive unit which was put under serious strain during the course of the year given the lack of (tall) personnel.

I agree that Crozier had a better year on an individual basis, but as leader of the defensive area, Easton must be given some credit for us not capitulating entirely.

[jeemak]

If the job was staying away from the ball, then mission complete :)
I think it's a questionable voting format for a player to have his worst season in a number of years finish in our top 7 players for the season. Ahead of Naughton and Crozier? No way.

I need to put my thinking cap on and try and recall who he actually beat convincingly. I can recall one or two but equally I can recall him getting towelled up as well

It could possibly be that when it comes to Easton you have a bit of a fixation on what he doesn't do, versus the value of what he actually does.

Bevo could have thought Crozier had more of an impact, the other members on the match committee may have valued Wood's contribution more highly.

I thought Crozier was better, but I also thought that Wood's contribution (as quoted by him, in a different and deeper role on bigger players) was really valuable. Sure at times he had the odd clanger, but overall he was really solid and sometimes really good in a non-preferred role. As another poster said, he was leading a defencive unit that was under-sized and by everyone's admission lacking in structure due to personnel limitations, and that counts for a lot.

Super effort from Bont, and really strong performance from Dunks and Jacko with the latter unlucky to miss out on a higher position in the voting tally by a very small amount.

[GVGjr]

It could possibly be that when it comes to Easton you have a bit of a fixation on what he doesn't do, versus the value of what he actually does.

Bevo could have thought Crozier had more of an impact, the other members on the match committee may have valued Wood's contribution more highly.

I thought Crozier was better, but I also thought that Wood's contribution (as quoted by him, in a different and deeper role on bigger players) was really valuable. Sure at times he had the odd clanger, but overall he was really solid and sometimes really good in a non-preferred role. As another poster said, he was leading a defencive unit that was under-sized and by everyone's admission lacking in structure due to personnel limitations, and that counts for a lot.

Super effort from Bont, and really strong performance from Dunks and Jacko with the latter unlucky to miss out on a higher position in the voting tally by a very small amount.

Not at all, it's simply he doesn't pass the test of being a productive player and it's been a steady decline over the last 3 years
He's hugely popular and I know I don't have a lot of support with my differing view but if he warranted a position in the top 7 players of 2019 I can't agree with it.
His limitations, not a good ball user, can't play forward can't consistently play tall etc, would be called out more forcibly for most other players.

[jeemak]

Not at all, it's simply he doesn't pass the test of being a productive player and it's been a steady decline over the last 3 years
He's hugely popular and I know I don't have a lot of support with my differing view but if he warranted a position in the top 7 players of 2019 I can't agree with it.
His limitations, not a good ball user, can't play forward can't consistently play tall etc, would be called out more forcibly for most other players.

But at his height he does consistently play tall - that's precisely the point we are tying to make. I mean, how tall do you want him to play?

[ratsmac]

Before the bye we had conceded 1001 points against, the second worst in the league just ahead of Melbourne with 1004 points against. The second half of the season we conceded 809 points against, the 6th best in the comp. A fair turn around.

Going off those figures our defense got better as the year wore on and if Easton Wood was if charge of the defense, well his place is the BNF is understandable.

I was very critical of Wood all season but credit where credit is due. Well done.

[S Coast Simon]

I am a bit surprised with how high Wood finished as well. I though Crozier had a cracker of a season. Enough to be top five in my eyes. In saying that the MC have a way better idea ( mind you I don’t always think this either) than I do. I appears they must have assigned the more difficult task on bigger blokes to Wood. Therefore they have viewed Woods contributions to be greater than that of Crozier. Every year there are surprises to us but all understood internally.

I’m a bit excited for 2020 I can’t friggen wait

[GVGjr]

I am a bit surprised with how high Wood finished as well. I though Crozier had a cracker of a season. Enough to be top five in my eyes. In saying that the MC have a way better idea ( mind you I don’t always think this either) than I do. I appears they must have assigned the more difficult task on bigger blokes to Wood. Therefore they have viewed Woods contributions to be greater than that of Crozier. Every year there are surprises to us but all understood internally.

I’m a bit excited for 2020 I can’t friggen wait

Most people would suggest Tex Walker had a poor season for the Crows this year and bingo the captain finished 7th in the B&F
There might be something to that. :)

[soupman]

Top 16:

Bont - 299 votes
Dunks - 270
Macrae - 268
JJ - 174
Daniel - 164
Hunter - 161
Wood - 160
Naughton - 154
Lloyd - 153
Crozier - 141
Suckling - 136
Cordy - 130
Duryea - 115
B.Smith - 106
Libba - 98
McLean - 86

A few guys rated better than i expected. I didn't think JJ had a great year, Wood was poor mostly but improved at the end, Suckling did well considering his whipping boy status and quiet patch mid year, Cordy nearly made the top ten despite what many including me thought was a terrible year, Libba fpr me looked done for most of the year and missed a huge chunk yet still is top 15, and Mclean had maybe 3 effective games.

Surprised Trengove didn't atleast get similiar credit to Cordy for his defensive efforts, surprised English rates lower than Libba and Mclean considering i thought English had more good games than them overall, same goes for Lipinski, and thought both Schache and Dickson had better years as forwards than Toby, Dales late form would have seen him in the mix too surely.

[S Coast Simon]

A few guys rated better than i expected. I didn't think JJ had a great year, Wood was poor mostly but improved at the end, Suckling did well considering his whipping boy status and quiet patch mid year, Cordy nearly made the top ten despite what many including me thought was a terrible year, Libba fpr me looked done for most of the year and missed a huge chunk yet still is top 15, and Mclean had maybe 3 effective games.

Surprised Trengove didn't atleast get similiar credit to Cordy for his defensive efforts, surprised English rates lower than Libba and Mclean considering i thought English had more good games than them overall, same goes for Lipinski, and thought both Schache and Dickson had better years as forwards than Toby, Dales late form would have seen him in the mix too surely.

agree with you completely. How English did not rate better as the sole Rick most games at his age against the monsters. Would have a Schache above Maclean and Libba

[Sedat]

The top 3 were awesome but I would like to see a much closer top 10 in our B&F in 2020 - we fell away too much for my liking, which reflected in the 2nd tier not stepping up on the rare occasions that Bont/Dunks/Macrae lowered their colours.

Not surprised with Libba polling well - he jumped out of the blocks early in the season when most others were still yet to find their best footy. A fully fit Libba will be a very welcome addition to our midfield.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Liked Duryea's interviews up on the website - seems a bit of a character.

[bornadog]

Most people would suggest Tex Walker had a poor season for the Crows this year and bingo the captain finished 7th in the B&F
There might be something to that. :)

Kicked 43 goals

[GVGjr]

Kicked 43 goals

Some here have doubts on Sam Lloyd and he kicked 38 goals and finished 9th after playing every game
I'd say the press and Adelaide supporters have been somewhat negative towards Walker this year

[bornadog]

Some here have doubts on Sam Lloyd and he kicked 38 goals and finished 9th after playing every game
I'd say the press and Adelaide supporters have been somewhat negative towards Walker this year

Agree they have been, even supporters haven't enjoyed his year, but 43 goals is also nothing to sneaze at.

[The Adelaide Connection]

Agree they have been, even supporters haven't enjoyed his year, but 43 goals is also nothing to sneaze at.

I watched all of their games this year (many live) and I can tell you that he absolutely was horrible for most of the year. I am staggered he kicked that many, but a lot came when the game was over (like against us), in games where he was missing for 110 of 120 minutes, or when beating up easy opposition. There would not be too many that make his career highlights reel.

The other thing is that a lot of clubs would run off of him (he was a huge liability because he couldn’t go with almost anyone). Clubs almost stopped worrying about him. I lost count of all the times his opponent would run towards the contest etc. and he would try to go with them and then crawl to a halt (and do a lot of finger pointing). He is either super cooked or was playing injured.

[bornadog]

I watched all of their games this year (many live) and I can tell you that he absolutely was horrible for most of the year. I am staggered he kicked that many, but a lot came when the game was over (like against us), when the game was already over, or when beating up easy opposition. There would not be too many that make his career highlights reel.

The other thing is that a lot of clubs would run off of him (he was a huge liability because he couldn’t go with almost anyone). Clubs almost stopped worrying about him. I lost count of all the times his opponent would run towards the contest etc. and he would try to go with them and then crawl to a halt (and do a lot of finger pointing). He is either super cooked or was playing injured.

The others players must have been pretty bad as well with Walker polling so high

[The Adelaide Connection]

The others players must have been pretty bad as well with Walker polling so high

They absolutely were. Honestly, it’s remarkable that they were only a game out of finals because they really replicated Melbourne’s year in a lot of ways. They were saved by a good quarter here or there, a kind draw, and some incredible luck with opposition injuries/form.

That said, the media gush over Walker and in some of their games this year Walker hitting one from 60m and hitting two lace out passes were the only highlights. I suspect that there is a bit of internal gush too.

It’s been enjoyable watching entitled, pompous Adelaide supporters getting a dose of seriously crap team. 5AA talkback has been fun this year after games and I expect next year is going to be almost more enjoyable than logging onto Bomberblitz when Essington go down.

[bornadog]

Average age of top 5 in 2019 club B&Fs (sorted oldest to youngest)
28 FREM GEEL NTH
27 RICH WCE
26 BRIS ADEL COLL
25 GCS CARL ESS PORT SYD
24 HAW GWS STK MELB WBD


Third year in a row WBD have had the youngest top 5