WB Game Day V Collingwood R1 2020

[Eastdog]

It's official the match will go ahead.

Predictions per usual for margin, our first goal scorer and our best on ground.

[bulldogtragic]

No coronavirus transmissions.
Integrity back in decision making.
No injuries.

[I'm Not Bitter Anymore!]

Yes it’s on!

[Twodogs]

Us by 47 points
first goal kicker Bruce
BOG-Bont.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Dogs by 11 points
BOG Bont
1st Goal Wallis

[BornInDroopSt'54]

JFHC is it true?
Bulldogs by 7 points.
BOG Bailey Smith
First goal Schache.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

There must be a season now there is a round.

[Eastdog]

Dogs by 3 points in a thriller with all of us cheering into Marvel Stadium from our homes
First Goal: Josh Bruce
Best On Ground: THE BONT

[bornadog]

Crowd Zero
Dogs by 7
First Goal. Lloyd
BOG: Bont

[josie]

First goal - Wallis
BOG - Bont
Dogs by 2 points

[Happy Days]

Dogs by 20
BOG - Bont
First - Lloyd

Bite it you scum

[angelopetraglia]

I’m flat for the first time in my life for the start of the footy season. So sad to see what is happening. What is footy without fans?

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I’m flat for the first time in my life for the start of the footy season. So sad to see what is happening. What is footy without fans?
It may improve the umpiring.

[Hotdog60]

It may improve the umpiring.

Especially out west.

[bornadog]

Naughton, Bruce and Keath all playing tomorrow night.

[GVGjr]

Naughton, Bruce and Keath all playing tomorrow night.

Great news regarding Naughton

[comrade]

Reduced game time will help some players and hurt others. Should help English compete against beasts like Grundy, who just keep going all game. But doesn’t help the likes of Macrae and Hunter.

How are we positioned to take advantage of the reduced game time?

[bornadog]

Some snippets from Bevo Press Conference:

* Aaron Naughton will take on Collingwood. Alex Keath and Josh Bruce will also to make their debut in Dogs colours

* At this stage clubs have been told that round 2 will go ahead as scheduled.

* No games to be brought forward to mid-week as of yet but that could change

* No VFL footy makes it harder for injured players coming back. Tom Liberatore one of those. Dogs can’t put a timeframe on when he’ll be back.


* Beveridge suggested clubs be allowed to play 14 v 14 scratch matches to build up match fitness of those not selected

[Axe Man]

Cavarra gets his chance (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/578281/cavarra-gets-his-chance)

Ben Cavarra will make his AFL debut on Friday night against Collingwood.

Mature-age forward Ben Cavarra will make his AFL debut on Friday night.

Cavarra will run out in red, white and blue for the first time when the Western Bulldogs host Collingwood at Marvel Stadium.

It’s been a long journey for the 24-year-old, after missing out on multiple drafts before joining the Bulldogs with pick 45 in 2018.

Former Bulldogs star and now VFL senior coach Daniel Giansiracusa presented Cavarra with his jumper in a team meeting on Thursday morning.

“It’s been an interesting journey, overlooked a couple of times in drafts and things like that,” Giansiracusa said in the team meeting.

“We’ve known him for just over 12 months – he was in a hurry when he got here.

“He’s a hungry little goal sneak and his body probably failed him a little bit last year, but he continued to grow and learn from those experiences.

“He continues to knock down the coaches’ door about trying to get better.”

Cavarra had more than his fair share of injuries in his first year as a Bulldog, managing just 12 VFL games around quad, hamstring, rib and shoulder injuries.

But he’s now ready to make the most of his opportunity after a strong pre-season.

“It’s been a really long journey for me,” Cavarra told his teammates.

“Overlooked six times, constantly told I’m not good enough and that sort of stuff.

“I always had the belief that I was and knew that once I got my chance I would take it with both hands.

“Last year was really tough with injuries… I’m just looking forward to the opportunity.”

[Axe Man]

Naughton to play Round 1 (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/578245/naughton-to-play-round-1?fbclid=IwAR30LywozUawxJTnKhD_AvOpvk5LGuZ3-qOXgaVPcQ8KseuBTmXDW-BJMTQ)

Western Bulldogs senior coach Luke Beveridge has confirmed Aaron Naughton, Josh Bruce and Alex Keath will play in Friday night's season opener.

Western Bulldogs senior coach Luke Beveridge has confirmed Aaron Naughton will play in Friday night’s Round 1 clash against Collingwood.

Beveridge said Naughton, who underwent arthroscopic surgery on his right knee last month, has passed his rehabilitation with “flying colours”.

“We’ll name a side this afternoon, but Aaron is in our 22,” Beveridge said at a press conference on Thursday morning.

“He’s really important (to our team), not just for now, but as time goes by we hope he’ll keep getting better and better.

“We were a little uncertain as to whether or not he’d front up – he had that surgery at the end of last year, and then recently a bit of a clean-up – but after about a week he seemed fine.

“He’s come through with flying colours and will take his spot in the team on Friday night.”

Beveridge revealed there was no pressure put on the 20-year-old to play, considering he was sidelined for both Marsh Community Series matches.

“I said to him at the end of last week, ‘There’s no pressure to play – if you’re not feeling 100%, let’s push it back’,” Beveridge said.

“He got through all his training with no impediment – so he’s in a good state of mind, and really enthusiastic.”

The head coach also confirmed off-season recruits Alex Keath and Josh Bruce will take to the field on Friday night.

“It’s exciting for us and our supporters, to see the difference (Keath and Bruce) may make,” Beveridge said.

“I think in our key-position areas, we’ve got a little bit more depth, and our team will present out on the park differently than it has the last couple of years.”

The Bulldogs will announce their starting 22 on Thursday night.

[Twodogs]

Cavarra gets his chance (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/578281/cavarra-gets-his-chance)

Ben Cavarra will make his AFL debut on Friday night against Collingwood.

Mature-age forward Ben Cavarra will make his AFL debut on Friday night.

Cavarra will run out in red, white and blue for the first time when the Western Bulldogs host Collingwood at Marvel Stadium.

It’s been a long journey for the 24-year-old, after missing out on multiple drafts before joining the Bulldogs with pick 45 in 2018.

Former Bulldogs star and now VFL senior coach Daniel Giansiracusa presented Cavarra with his jumper in a team meeting on Thursday morning.

“It’s been an interesting journey, overlooked a couple of times in drafts and things like that,” Giansiracusa said in the team meeting.

“We’ve known him for just over 12 months – he was in a hurry when he got here.

“He’s a hungry little goal sneak and his body probably failed him a little bit last year, but he continued to grow and learn from those experiences.

“He continues to knock down the coaches’ door about trying to get better.”

Cavarra had more than his fair share of injuries in his first year as a Bulldog, managing just 12 VFL games around quad, hamstring, rib and shoulder injuries.

But he’s now ready to make the most of his opportunity after a strong pre-season.

“It’s been a really long journey for me,” Cavarra told his teammates.

“Overlooked six times, constantly told I’m not good enough and that sort of stuff.

“I always had the belief that I was and knew that once I got my chance I would take it with both hands.

“Last year was really tough with injuries… I’m just looking forward to the opportunity.”

Can I just be the first to say "Yayyyyyy!!!!" and good luck to Ben. This may just be the most awaited and talked about debut since Brad Hardie in 1985.

[comrade]

A genuine speedy goal sneak along with some genuine key talls. Is this a real Bulldogs forward line?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Didn't see that coming?

Cav didn't play either Marsh game and yet now debuts? I wonder if it means Schache won't play.

[Mantis]

Bevo pulls one from left field with the Cavarra selection, but given the poor defensive efforts our mid/small forwards put on in our practice game vs Port it's certainly a needs based call.

As he mentioned its a shame his family can't be with him to watch him debut, but I hope he has a ripper game all the same!

[Rocket Science]

Self-quoting is the height of narcissism but I'm going to do it anyway.


I wonder in what universe Cavarra is considered even faintly likely to play in round one before I remind myself it's Bevo's universe, we just live in it.

Bevo sure loves him a selection smoky.

[comrade]

Self-quoting is the height of narcissism but I'm going to do it anyway.



Bevo sure loves him a selection smoky.

Bevo's universe confirmed.

[bornadog]

Self-quoting is the height of narcissism but I'm going to do it anyway.



Bevo sure loves him a selection smoky.

Brilliantly picked

[The Underdog]

Self-quoting is the height of narcissism but I'm going to do it anyway.



Bevo sure loves him a selection smoky.

I can’t wait to see who’s left out to make us all angry

[Remi Moses]

Great story
Rejected 6 times !
Us by 10 pts

[josie]

I have watching Cavarra at vfl and am a big fan, so excited with his debut. Go Benny, Benny, Benny, Benny and the Jets!

[Mofra]

You just know Cav will be going at 100% the entire time he's on the ground.

[Axe Man]

If Cavarra kicks a bag on Friday night imagine the headlines:

Cavarra virus infects the Pies
Cavarra outbreak at Marvel Stadium
Pies left with Buckley's chance of containing Cavarra
Pies into quarantine after Cavarra exposure

They practically write themselves!

Too soon?

[Axe Man]

Lipinski out after concussion symptoms from the Port game.:(

[josie]

If Cavarra kicks a bag on Friday night imagine the headlines:

Cavarra virus infects the Pies
Cavarra outbreak at Marvel Stadium
Pies left with Buckley's chance of containing Cavarra
Pies into quarantine after Cavarra exposure

They practically write themselves!

Too soon?

Gold Standard !!

[Rocket Science]

I can’t wait to see who’s left out to make us all angry


Lipinski out after concussion symptoms from the Port game.:(

This is an OUTRAGE!

[bornadog]

Lipinski out after concussion symptoms from the Port game.:(

Not good for the young bloke

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Western Bulldogs v Collingwood
Friday 20 March, 7.50pm AEDT
Marvel Stadium

B: Alex Keath, Zaine Cordy, Easton Wood
HB: Hayden Crozier, Jason Johannisen, Caleb Daniel
C: Bailey Smith, Marcus Bontempelli, Lachie Hunter
HF: Bailey Dale, Josh Bruce, Matt Suckling
F: Mitch Wallis, Aaron Naughton, Sam Lloyd
Foll: Tim English, Josh Dunkley, Jack Macrae
Int: Lewis Young, Ben Cavarra, Bailey Williams, Ryan Gardner
Emer: Josh Schache, Toby McLean, Ed Richards, Jordon Sweet

[Sedat]

Ryan Gardner a surprise inclusion to put it mildly

[Remi Moses]

Gardner , I’m not sure
Players have to perform as there’s some depth there

[ratsmac]

Gardiner really? Bevo is at it again. Hope it works out i really do.

Dogs by 26
First goal Naughton
BOG Captain The Bont

[bulldogtragic]

Ryan Gardner a surprise inclusion to put it mildly

So he’s got the photos of Bevo from Roarke Smith.

[Vred]

Ryan Gardner a surprise inclusion to put it mildly

Gardner over literally anyone is a surprise to be honest...

[bornadog]

Gardner over literally anyone is a surprise to be honest...
FMD, prefer Shaq

[comrade]

Gardner must be playing as defensive cover, he’s one of the most inept forwards I’ve seen.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

dogs by 3

bog Dunks

1st goal: Cav to kick the first Sav

[bornadog]

Gardner must be playing as defensive cover, he’s one of the most inept forwards I’ve seen.
I don’t get it, to me he is a b grade VFL player.

Toby out as is Richards

[Mantis]

2 x 6’6” guys on the bench is a strange, strange move.

Much prefer Richards in over one of them.

[azabob]

Will it be Gardner or Young for ruck support?

I’m still concerned no Trengove at all.

I see it as Young ahead of Schache and Gardiner ahead of Trengove.

[kruder]

Young to play second ruck/ forward to help out Timmy and Ryan to help out on Cox because they have kinda lost faith in Cordy?

Its interesting if we just played Trengove at Fullback and left Cordy and Gardner out we could play Richards agree.

I just hope we don't bomb it with all this tall timber.

[Mofra]

Will it be Gardner or Young for ruck support?

I’m still concerned no Trengove at all.

I see it as Young ahead of Schache and Gardiner ahead of Trengove.
Ditto. Collingwood to sit really hard on JJ as we've gone tall which means not much run off the bench.

[Sedat]

Gardner must be playing as defensive cover, he’s one of the most inept forwards I’ve seen.
Trengove's stocks have fallen further than Qantas.

[jeemak]

I can’t wait to see who’s left out to make us all angry

It's probably who's in this week!

[kruder]

Expecting a big game from Easton Wood in this.

He has to be an attacking weapon if we are playing Keith,Cordy and Gardner he gets his chance to shine, we need him to be going for his marks and not going the punch back into the corridor.

[comrade]

Why do we need ruck cover? English will be able to run out a shortened game.

[The Underdog]

It's probably who's in this week!

Yeah, that team balance is bizarre, especially when you look at the Collingwood line up

[josie]

Will Bevo pull a late change? Cordy or Gardner for Richards or Maclean?

[The Underdog]

Will Bevo pull a late change? Cordy or Gardner for Richards or Maclean?

We can only hope.
If Toby can’t get a gig with Lipinski out, he’s in some trouble.

[hujsh]

I thought Young had Shache's spot due to being able to play back or ruck better then saw Gardner...

God damn it Bevo. You just had to blow it up you maniac

[mjp]

Why do we need ruck cover? English will be able to run out a shortened game.

What if he gets injured??? In the first 10 minutes?

You've gotta have a plan. Naughton = NO. And after the Marsh series, Bruce and Keath = NO. I guess it's Young, but is that really his go? I think we are a bit tall, but with Naughton coming back from injury and maybe on limited minutes and some concerns about ruck support, I am not surprised with the selection of Gardner. I mean, when it comes to backup ruck someone has to do it.

I actually don't get the disdain in which everyone holds Gardner. He was a mid-season elevation which is about as working class as it gets in terms of AFL footballers. We seem to be celebrating the selection of Cavarra (who has done it the 'hard way') yet annoyed with the selection of someone who did it EQUALLY hard but has played maybe 5 games? Let's support him. Giving him games is called development and we need him to develop. If not now, then when??? It isn't like we don't need a tall who can play as a defensive stopper because the other defenders battle to do it.

[Happy Days]

McLean is better than Gardner. So is Richards. I'd even back them both to be more effective in the ruck.

I know the season is in question but I'd still like to win the game.

[GVGjr]

Suckling to the forward line is another interesting selection. The indications were he would be a back man or maybe on a wing this year
I suspect Young will be the 3rd tall forward and support ruck man instead of Schache. Schache might have a fair bit of work to do to get back in the side quickly

Cavarra did not play in one of the Marsh cup games and Gardner played a half of one game but come straight into the side.
Neither were prominent in the practice game either but obviously fit some needs

I think it's fair to say we have continued with our trend of unconventional selection process early in the season

[The Underdog]

What if he gets injured??? In the first 10 minutes?

You've gotta have a plan. Naughton = NO. And after the Marsh series, Bruce and Keath = NO. I guess it's Young, but is that really his go? I think we are a bit tall, but with Naughton coming back from injury and maybe on limited minutes and some concerns about ruck support, I am not surprised with the selection of Gardner. I mean, when it comes to backup ruck someone has to do it.

I actually don't get the disdain in which everyone holds Gardner. He was a mid-season elevation which is about as working class as it gets in terms of AFL footballers. We seem to be celebrating the selection of Cavarra (who has done it the 'hard way') yet annoyed with the selection of someone who did it EQUALLY hard but has played maybe 5 games? Let's support him. Giving him games is called development and we need him to develop. If not now, then when??? It isn't like we don't need a tall who can play as a defensive stopper because the other defenders battle to do it.

I guess it’s confusing in the sense that a match committee that has stoutly insisted on playing in general one tall too few, now seems insistent on playing at least one tall too many. I get that he might be in there as a Mason Cox matchup/ backup ruck, but if that’s the case then what is the point of Cordy (a longer question, I’m sure). I know there’s queries on Cordy’s one on one ability, but if he can’t be that guy, why is he there? And if he is there, why do we compound that with another guy who possibly can’t do that job either. I get your arguments but it seems a strange time to start choosing less talented tallls over more talented runners (looking at you Ed Richards). Maybe they figure with shortened game time, they can go taller, but it’s a weird moment for a change in philosophy.
Would they have picked the same team balance if Lipinski was available?

[comrade]

I hate match committee decisions based on 'what ifs'. What if we don't lose a ruckman, but lose a runner?

[SonofScray]

Time will tell, but I'm not keen on the match committee selections here. It's in line with some of the bat shit crazy stuff Bevo was doing in recent history that had us all at sea, bobbing up and down like this.

[Bulldog4life]

Two things. Bevo is not alone on the MC so it is a MC decision not just his. Secondly Gardner has been training with the backline all summer so he will not be back up ruck you would think. I have previously thought we needed an extra tall in the back so that selection is ok. Young has done ok in the ruck in the past and he is the best shot to give Tim relief.

[Mantis]

Two things. Bevo is not alone on the MC so it is a MC decision not just his. Secondly Gardner has been training with the backline all summer so he will not be back up ruck you would think. I have previously thought we needed an extra tall in the back so that selection is ok. Young has done ok in the ruck in the past and he is the best shot to give Tim relief.

But the question is do we need an extra tall defender against Collingwood?

[Axe Man]

But the question is do we need an extra tall defender against Collingwood?

Nope. Especially when we have Naughton at the other end that can go back in an emergency.

[bornadog]

My concern is seeing Cordy up against Cox like round 4 last year and conceding almost 20cm, plus his reach

[Mantis]

My concern is seeing Cordy up against Cox like round 4 last year and conceding almost 20cm, plus his reach

Wouldn't Keath be the obvious match-up for Cox? We also have Young who can assist if Cox is out of control.

And Cox is 210cm so everyone on our list will be giving away size.

[bornadog]

Wouldn't Keath be the obvious match-up for Cox? We also have Young who can assist if Cox is out of control.

And Cox is 210cm so everyone on our list will be giving away size.

I prefer Young and Keath in the backline. I think Cordy and Gardner is overkill and yes Cox is taller than anyone, but Cordy is the shortest of the talls and has been beaten in the air many times.

[Mofra]

I prefer Young and Keath in the backline. I think Cordy and Gardner is overkill and yes Cox is taller than anyone, but Cordy is the shortest of the talls and has been beaten in the air many times.
I'd imagine we'd prefer a Wood on de Goey and Cordy on Mihochek, similar height. Stephenson out helps us immensely, he's the type that hurts us.

Gardiner just has to go to Cox. We selected him, and he's a "follow my man" lockdown defender. If he's in the team, back him in to do a job. He plays front (not back/shoulder) and just stops Cox from running at the ball. That's his role, keep it simple and he can help the team.
If we can release Keath to play an intercepting role (the role he is best at) and he takes a bunch of intercept marks during the game I imagine Bubba as backline coach would be rapt.

I suspect Young will play ruck/forward like he did in the Marsh series (and in the Willy VFL game last year where he was very good - yes he has done it at VFL level too). We just can't let Howe jump in front of Bruce/Naughton - they're both top 5 contested marks in the comp so isolate them and let them do their thing. Young can try and drag him away form the contest.

Big call - but Noble goes to Lloyd and beats him convincingly, the guy can tackle and can play a classic lockdown small defenders role and given the "generate run from the backline" mantra those types aren't as common in the AFL as they perhaps should be. We only have one of those on our list and he's injured right now (Duryea). That means Wally has to step up as that shortish leading option who can gather the ball off the deck. Cav concentrates on getting front of the pack in the event we have a slow F50 entry.

[comrade]

I'd imagine we'd prefer a Wood on de Goey and Cordy on Mihochek, similar height. Stephenson out helps us immensely, he's the type that hurts us.

Gardiner just has to go to Cox. We selected him, and he's a "follow my man" lockdown defender. If he's in the team, back him in to do a job. He plays front (not back/shoulder) and just stops Cox from running at the ball. That's his role, keep it simple and he can help the team.
If we can release Keath to play an intercepting role (the role he is best at) and he takes a bunch of intercept marks during the game I imagine Bubba as backline coach would be rapt.

I suspect Young will play ruck/forward like he did in the Marsh series (and in the Willy VFL game last year where he was very good - yes he has done it at VFL level too). We just can't let Howe jump in front of Bruce/Naughton - they're both top 5 contested marks in the comp so isolate them and let them do their thing. Young can try and drag him away form the contest.

Big call - but Noble goes to Lloyd and beats him convincingly, the guy can tackle and can play a classic lockdown small defenders role and given the "generate run from the backline" mantra those types aren't as common in the AFL as they perhaps should be. We only have one of those on our list and he's injured right now (Duryea). That means Wally has to step up as that shortish leading option who can gather the ball off the deck. Cav concentrates on getting front of the pack in the event we have a slow F50 entry.

Nice summary, makes sense.

How are you feeling about our chances tonight?

[Bulldog4life]

But the question is do we need an extra tall defender against Collingwood?

That is the question that will be answered tonight. None of us know for sure at the stage.

[Mofra]

Nice summary, makes sense.

How are you feeling about our chances tonight?
If they were 20 minute quarters, very apprehensive.

I still have concerns about where our run comes from around the ground but am confident we win the midfield battle with Treloar out. Would have preferred an extra runner on the bench, hopefully Suckling plays utility. I would have preferred a genuine wingman in the team along with Hunter.

I think we win and win ugly.

[dog town]

If in doubt go smaller is always my policy. One tall too many in my view. We need help for English but we don’t need 3 talls at each end.

[Axe Man]

Do we know if the roof can be shut yet with the indoor gathering restrictions? According to the BOM there is a 30% chance of a small amount of rain tonight. If there is any moisture playing so many talls would be foolish.

[chef]

I can't even get excited about the game, I'll watch and hope we win but just can't get into it with whats about to happen.

[comrade]

I can't even get excited about the game, I'll watch and hope we win but just can't get into it with whats about to happen.

Definitely feel you there, hoping the switch gets flicked once the ball is bounced. It all feels kind of futile.

[chef]

Definitely feel you there, hoping the switch gets flicked once the ball is bounced. It all feels kind of futile.

Is it weird I don't care if we win, I just don't want any of our players to get sick from tonight?

Playing contact sport while trying to contain a virus that gets spread from bodily fluids and contact seems a bit strange.

[bornadog]

If in doubt go smaller is always my policy. One tall too many in my view. We need help for English but we don’t need 3 talls at each end.

I doubt they will all be on the ground at the same time

[mjp]

Is it weird I don't care if we win, I just don't want any of our players to get sick from tonight?

Playing contact sport while trying to contain a virus that gets spread from bodily fluids and contact seems a bit strange.

That's fair enough I guess. All I can suggest you do is take solace from the raw numbers which show Australia having 565 cases - and 6-deaths - from COVID 19. Yes, there will have been a (potentially high) number of unreported cases, but the death rate we are seeing is in the '0.05-0.05'% range so our detection levels might be not too bad.

I can't speak for Melbourne, but in Perth kids are still going to school (not to mention the shops), trains are still running etc...to a large extent 'normal' life is happening all around us.

I am sure at some point one of the players will be infected, but would suggest that right now the risk is very low.

[comrade]

That's fair enough I guess. All I can suggest you do is take solace from the raw numbers which show Australia having 565 cases - and 6-deaths - from COVID 19. Yes, there will have been a (potentially high) number of unreported cases, but the death rate we are seeing is in the '0.05-0.05'% range so our detection levels might be not too bad.

I can't speak for Melbourne, but in Perth kids are still going to school (not to mention the shops), trains are still running etc...to a large extent 'normal' life is happening all around us.

I am sure at some point one of the players will be infected, but would suggest that right now the risk is very low.

We're approximately 2-3 weeks behind the US and that country is in total shut down mode.

Normal life has about 1-2 weeks left at most here.

[kruder]

That's fair enough I guess. All I can suggest you do is take solace from the raw numbers which show Australia having 565 cases - and 6-deaths - from COVID 19. Yes, there will have been a (potentially high) number of unreported cases, but the death rate we are seeing is in the '0.05-0.05'% range so our detection levels might be not too bad.

I can't speak for Melbourne, but in Perth kids are still going to school (not to mention the shops), trains are still running etc...to a large extent 'normal' life is happening all around us.

I am sure at some point one of the players will be infected, but would suggest that right now the risk is very low.

The reason why its only 565 is because of the restrictions. I can see it already if the government do a good job flattering the curve, just watch social and talk back radio etc come at them stating low cases/deaths etc calling it all bullshit.

[bornadog]

We're approximately 2-3 weeks behind the US and that country is in total shut down mode.

Normal life has about 1-2 weeks left at most here.

I don't think you can compare us to the USA. they have been complacent from the start.


The reason why its only 565 is because of the restrictions. I can see it already if the government do a good job flattering the curve, just watch social and talk back radio etc come at them stating low cases/deaths etc calling it all bullshit.

We had a jump of 160 to now be on 765. We should have been tougher a few weeks ago, especially with our borders.

[comrade]

The reason why its only 565 is because of the restrictions. I can see it already if the government do a good job flattering the curve, just watch social and talk back radio etc come at them stating low cases/deaths etc calling it all bullshit.

It's more likely due to lack of testing. There is no way with our blase attitude to isolating/self quarantine that only 565 Australians have the virus.

[comrade]

I don't think you can compare us to the USA. they have been complacent from the start.


And we haven't been?

[bornadog]

And we haven't been?

True, but at least we cut off returning Chinese after their CNY visits. Most of our issues have been people coming from USA visits

[chef]

That's fair enough I guess. All I can suggest you do is take solace from the raw numbers which show Australia having 565 cases - and 6-deaths - from COVID 19. Yes, there will have been a (potentially high) number of unreported cases, but the death rate we are seeing is in the '0.05-0.05'% range so our detection levels might be not too bad.

I can't speak for Melbourne, but in Perth kids are still going to school (not to mention the shops), trains are still running etc...to a large extent 'normal' life is happening all around us.

I am sure at some point one of the players will be infected, but would suggest that right now the risk is very low.

Normal life finished last week imo.

[comrade]

True, but at least we cut off returning Chinese after their CNY visits. Most of our issues have been people coming from USA visits

Thousands of Chinese students landed in Australia just last week.

Public transport is still running en masse.

Positive cases will sky rocket in Australia before we know it.

[hujsh]

Doesn't feel normal working from home and seeing Woolworths with empty shelves. Though from the Bushfires onwards this has been a strange year

[comrade]

Normal life finished last week imo.

When people are brawling in supermarkets over a trolley of TP and the elderly are forced to go shopping at 7am just to buy milk and bread, businesses are laying off staff all over the place, huge organisations are closing...normal life is over.

[bornadog]

Thousands of Chinese students landed in Australia just last week.

Public transport is still running en masse.

Positive cases will sky rocket in Australia before we know it.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Government hasn't been tough enough.

All I was saying was the USA was worse than us.

PS: Those Chines students have been isolating for 14 days before they got here.

[bornadog]

Back to footy - roof will be open tonight

[chef]

Back to footy - roof will be open tonight

They don't have a choice do they?

Shut the roof and you can only have 100 there.

[GVGjr]

Haven't we already got a corona virus thread?

Can we please try and stick to discussing tonight's game and not what the US is doing or move those discussions to the appropriate thread

Thanks

[Bulldog Revolution]

Im excited to see what we dish up tonight - it will be intriguing to see and hear us - it was different last night with no crowd but its still bloody exciting to see what we dish up - Ive bought some expensive beer to mark the occasion.

It does look a top heavy team on paper - but I'll reserve judgment until we see how it performs. I am glad to see Lewis Young in the team as Id say he's had a pretty solid summer and pre season. I hope his confidence and contribution will grow over the season.

Shame Patty Lipinski is unavailable - hes been such a consistent performer early stages and is good with the ball in hand. Im a fan.

Richards and McLean are a little unlucky but have had their fitness and form issues - but I do think both are in the 22 at their best.

Delighted with what Ive seen from Bailey Williams pre season - has been very good and really adds to the backline mix.

And in my time following the dogs we havent had too many key forwards as exciting as Naughton, nor as accomplished as Bruce - so thats tantalising

[kruder]

I don't think you can compare us to the USA. they have been complacent from the start.



We had a jump of 160 to now be on 765. We should have been tougher a few weeks ago, especially with our borders.

yeah agree....

[Axe Man]

Back to footy - roof will be open tonight

I hope we keep an eye on the weather and drop a tall if it's going to be wet.

[Axe Man]

Gavin Brown and family have been allowed to attend tonight to watch Tyler debut - I hope Cavarra's family have been extended the same opportunity, according to this they should:


The League has set strict guidelines on who is able to attend the games in the wake of the pandemic, with the AFL confirming media, officials, each club's chairperson, chief executive and immediate family of debutants will be allowed to enter the closed games.

[bornadog]

I hope we keep an eye on the weather and drop a tall if it's going to be wet.

No chance of rain

[Axe Man]

No chance of rain

Thanks Jane Bunn, but the BOM don't agree with you.

https://i.postimg.cc/SKG3p24k/Capture.png (https://postimages.org/)

The app also tells me a 20% chance between 8pm and 11pm. A small chance and probably nothing significant, but not "no chance".

[bornadog]

Thanks Jane Bunn, but the BOM don't agree with you.

https://i.postimg.cc/SKG3p24k/Capture.png (https://postimages.org/)

The app also tells me a 20% chance between 8pm and 11pm. A small chance and probably nothing significant, but not "no chance".

http://www.janebunn.net/melbourne :D

[G-Mo77]

Gosh this is depressing. :(

[Mantis]

Feels like we’re about to play a game in a library.. oh well, it is what it is.

#godogs

[Eastdog]

Bulldog jumper and scarf on. Hard watching but I’m watching. Go Dogs!

[Mofra]

Macrae not starting in the centre. Interesting

[ratsmac]

Not a great start. Can't get out hands on the ball

[Eastdog]

Poor start.

[jeemak]

Collingwood more sure with their touch.

Hunter has frustrated me for the first time this year by missing Bruce, that was weak from English.

[Mantis]

They’re all over us with their pressure and our skills aren’t sharp.

[jeemak]

Well it looks like the Pies don't need the crowd to get the benefit of dodgy umpiring decisions.

[The Underdog]

Worst free kick in football history?

[chef]

Danger signs already

[Sedat]

Grundy well on his way to 9 Brownlow votes in 3 games against us.

[bulldogtragic]

Cancel the season already.

[Mantis]

Worst free kick in football history?

He grabbed his arm.. just dumb by Hunter.

[ratsmac]

Umpires killing us

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Pretty pathetic footy to be honest

[bulldogtragic]

Umpires killing us

Hunter is killing us.

[chef]

Nearly over already

[Eastdog]

Terrible start to 2020!

[Mantis]

Umpires killing us

Which ones haven’t been there?

We’re jumping at shadows!

[GVGjr]

Scrappy and unappealing footy at the moment and Grundy is having his way with us plus their forward line looks dangerous

[The Underdog]

He grabbed his arm.. just dumb by Hunter.

Did he though?

We’re not playing in this game at all.

[AndrewP6]

Pathetic.

[Eastdog]

Wally gets our first goal of 2020.

[Sedat]

Poor start Bont. Looks a step off the pace

[azabob]

Wood has started well.

[Mantis]

Lucky Mitch can kick for goal well.

[The Underdog]

Glad we brought Gardner in to play on Jamie Elliot.

[jeemak]

Weak as piss Bulldogs, weak as piss.

So bloody weak. Wake up, you're ruining my social distancing experience.

[bulldogtragic]

Weakest goal in afel history.

[AndrewP6]

This is horrific.

[kruder]

Cordy kicking out? ahhhh why?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Feels like the GWS final all over

[Sedat]

Our mids being taught a lesson in work rate

[chef]

Pissweak tackle from English

[ratsmac]

How bad is our start. Have not come to play. Collingwood have.

[Mantis]

Any chance we can stick a tackle?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Boy. Qtr time can't come quick enough. Whatever our plans were, they are not working.
Players, especially our mids and defenders need a big spray.

[Grantysghost]

Lucky to be this close. Haven't turned up.

[bulldogtragic]

16 minute quarters are great.

[jeemak]

Glad we brought Gardner in to play on Jamie Elliot.

I'm pretty sure he's not our issue right now. The midfielders deciding to prepare by having a bump of ketamine before the game probably is.

[The Underdog]

God, that was *!*!*!*!ing disgraceful.

[comrade]

Nice to see we’re complying with the 1.5m exclusion zone.

[GVGjr]

Any chance we can stick a tackle?

It's really evident so far that we aren't putting a lot of effort into the tackling

[ratsmac]

Thank you siren

[Vred]

What preseason? We’re getting completely destroyed.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

It's really evident so far that we aren't putting a lot of effort into the tackling

Could have stopped after writing effort.

We've been disgusting.

[comrade]

If Zaine Cordy isn’t the worst defender getting a regular game in the AFL, he must be damn close.

[The Underdog]

I'm pretty sure he's not our issue right now. The midfielders deciding to prepare by having a bump of ketamine before the game probably is.

I didn’t say he was our issue, just seems a questionable choice. The fact we only have one decent player on the ground is an issue. Easton Wood leading the B & F by all the votes.

[Sedat]

English is a massive problem. It all starts at the source and he is clearly spooked by Grundy. That awful missed tackle is a player completely devoid of confidence againat this opposition.

[ratsmac]

We look spooked. Time to regroup and start playing footy

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Cordy kicking out? ahhhh why?

And it was only he or Gardner who were the options!
Our defense is not switched on at all.
And our mids aren't either.
Forwards haven't had a chance!

[GVGjr]

Lucky to be this close. Haven't turned up.

We haven't been great starters so we need to get a wriggle on in the 2nd quarter

[Jeanette54]

Kill me now, I couldn't stand another 67 quarters of that Bullsh*#t effort this season.

[comrade]

Both Bruce and Naughton have both been out-marked in a contest. Not good enough.

[kruder]

And it was only he or Gardner who were the options!
Our defense is not switched on at all.
And our mids aren't either.
Forwards haven't had a chance!

He was kicking out in the preseason I just dont get it

[Mofra]

Hunter is killing us.
He kept is in it. One of the few players who actually got a touch.

Gardner has shown a bit. Might just develop into a no frills lockdown defender yet.

[Grantysghost]

Positives, Keath and Wood both looked good. Negatives midfield, their talls dominance, struggling with their keeping off.

[Happy Days]

Well that sucked.

Have we put 5 possessions together?

[Happy Days]

Wood looks excellent. I'll let you all know how Dunkley looks the first time I see him.

[soupman]

Hunter has three bad errors but also is working hard and actually getting the footy. Complete lack of attack on the ball apart from Smith thus far. Our intensity is like a preseason game.

Gardner has been alright, as has Wood.

Need to get the ball and possess it a little. Had more than 3 consecutive touches maybe twice thatquarter

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Can we get 22 Corona virus tests to Marvel. I think our guys might've all contracted it.

[Happy Days]

Can we get 22 Corona virus tests to Marvel. I think our guys might've all contracted it.

Don't you have to touch someone to catch it?

[jeemak]

Good quarter from Easton, aside from one poor kick followed by a poor tackle.

Our midfield is just not doing enough defencively, and fluffing lines when they get it. We just got completely smashed in territory because of this.

[jeemak]

I didn’t say he was our issue, just seems a questionable choice. The fact we only have one decent player on the ground is an issue. Easton Wood leading the B & F by all the votes.

Not sure why that's the first thing that comes to mind though. So many other obvious issues.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Wow. Grundy owns Timmy.

[jeemak]

Sucking that was pathetic and completely unnecessary and it's cost us territory and almost a goal. Get your shit together Bulldogs.

[kruder]

The Bonts hands have been so poor.. Cant believe im saying that its been a strange year so far

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Cordy again with the kick out. It is by design???

[Mantis]

He kept is in it. One of the few players who actually got a touch.

Gardner has shown a bit. Might just develop into a no frills lockdown defender yet.

To be fair.. He gave it straight back to them. He was disgusting.

[Sedat]

Bont shithouse so far

[Sedat]

Gee that's an ordinary free. That's the classic Ben Brown looking unco free.

[bulldogtragic]

Who reads their own headlines?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Wow. So setting the bar real low for a push in the back.

[Happy Days]

Bont shithouse so far

You reckon? He's been easily our best player for me.

[ledge]

This is pathetic, have we actually had any of the ball ?
We have gone forward once in over a qtr .
What is it with us and tall useless forward beating us ., Majal Daw abs this Cox only play well against us.
Tell you what free kicks will be 20 to 1 at this rate.

[jeemak]

Reckon our midfield group have been having one big circle jerk during the preseason if this performance is anything to go by.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Bont, Macrae and Dunkley worst on ground. No wonder we're getting hammered.

[Mantis]

Bont shithouse so far

He’s comfortably the worst player on the ground right now... even counting English.

[Happy Days]

Fair play Collingwood look amazing.

[AndrewP6]

Did our preseason planning involve any preparation to play against actual opponents? I’m close to turning this garbage off.

[jeemak]

Not sure why that's the first thing that comes to mind though. So many other obvious issues.

Now you can let rip!

[bulldogtragic]

FFS Gardner.

[chef]

Hahahahahaha wtf

[Mofra]

This is now officially embarrassing

[The Underdog]

Not sure why that's the first thing that comes to mind though. So many other obvious issues.

Because I was looking at it at the time I typed. Sorry I’ll do a list of crap stuff in order of importance next time

[chef]

Why the *!*!*!*! is Cordy kicking out?

[Happy Days]

I never want to see Gardner again. In a Dogs jumper, in real life, ever.

[Sedat]

Gardner will cop it because he is an easy target. But he's got 20 mates (Bailey Smith honorable exception)

[DOG GOD]

I didn’t believe the hype, and this is why....shades of post 2016

[Mantis]

Can we *!*!*!*!ing stop Cordy kicking it out?

If Daniel is supposedly our QB let him do it as he struggles to win it himself.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Oh boy. This just gets worse by the second.
Gardner pitiful.

[chef]

Playing like we dont want to be out there.

[AndrewP6]

You reckon? He's been easily our best player for me.

:D:D :D Thanks for the laugh.

[Rocket Science]

Pretty happy for the AFEL to cancel the season right now.

[Eastdog]

No pressure from us at all. Our defence is under siege.

[AndrewP6]

I didn’t believe the hype, and this is why....shades of post 2016

Shades of 2012-13

[kruder]

They need to get JJ and suckling off half back its crazy no drive at all

[bulldogtragic]

Why the *!*!*!*! is Cordy kicking out?

Because Collingwood keep missing easy shots.

[Happy Days]

Gardner will cop it because he is an easy target. But he's got 20 mates (Bailey Smith honorable exception)

He literally kicked it 20m backwards across goal to the other team 35m out from goal. He deserves it.

[Mofra]

Our pressure on the ball carrier is well below where it was last year.

[ledge]

Are we actually going to go in our forward 50 ?

[chef]

Train wreck.

[angelopetraglia]

Cancel the season

[comrade]

This is hilariously bad.

[Mantis]

They need to get JJ and suckling off half back its crazy no drive at all

You don’t think Wood, Cordy & Gardner will give us enough drive? LMFAO!!

[DOG GOD]

The AFL said the “majority” of players wanted to play...what they didn’t say was the WB didn’t want to

[Mofra]

He literally kicked it 20m backwards across goal to the other team 35m out from goal. He deserves it.
The kick to him was poor too start with, shouldn't have been in that position

[Sedat]

He literally kicked it 20m backwards across goal to the other team 35m out from goal. He deserves it.
My word he does, it was awful. As awful as a hundred other efforts by better credentialed players

[Vred]

See you guys in 2021

[Happy Days]

Personally I'm disgusted they're playing through the pandemic. They need to stop the game immediately.

[bulldogtragic]

1 shot at goal in one third of a game.

Feels like the end of 2018.

[Mantis]

We can get *!*!*!*!ed!!

[G-Mo77]

I've seen enough. Night all.

[Mofra]

Kicking to Daniel in a contest. Good that's stupid

[The Bulldogs Bite]

*!*!*!*! you dogs. This is a slap in the face

[soupman]

Wtf is Llpyd kicking to Daniel 2 on 1 in the corridor for? Idiotic

[ReLoad]

Wow.

Insipid.

[comrade]

I honestly can’t understand what I’m seeing.

[Mantis]

We beg for more high exposure games and then deliver this type of performance... embarrassing!!

[Sedat]

Josh Bruce in the ruck. A concession

[Happy Days]

I honestly can’t understand what I’m seeing.

Same. It's like they aren't even there.

[bulldogtragic]

We beg for more high exposure games and then deliver this type of performance... embarrassing!!

We told Ch7 they’d be high scoring games. This is currently true.

[Mofra]

Bailey!

[comrade]

I can accept losing. I can’t accept a lack of effort or care.

This has been the softest half of footy I’ve ever seen us play. Absolutely spooked.

[soupman]

The kick to him was poor too start with, shouldn't have been in that position

Thats standard. If you cant execute the switch under little pressure thats not good enough. Shame because otherwise he has been ok

[Mofra]

Cav!!!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Good to see Cavarra's family there to see him kick a goal

[Happy Days]

This is better! We should kick more goals I reckon!

[Eastdog]

Congrats Ben. First Bulldog AFL goal.

[comrade]

Cav with his first AFL goal. Most likely our best moment for the night.

[Mofra]

Thats standard. If you cant execute the switch under little pressure thats not good enough. Shame because otherwise he has been ok
I actually tought Gardner has a few good contests in the first quarter. Would be a tough gig as a backman right now

[Mantis]

Finally a little bit of spirit & fight!

[Eastdog]

We are coming!

[bulldogtragic]

Our goals are coming from umpires, but they’re coming. Now the effort to stay up.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Pies aren't far enough in front. We will eat them.

[chef]

Lloyd heard footsteps?

[comrade]

Lloyd heard footsteps?

Yep, embarrassing.

[Happy Days]

Lloyd heard footsteps?

That was poo sandwich from Lloyd.

[Sedat]

Umm, good conversion so far

[Mantis]

A meek performance bar the last 5min when we actually had a dip.. we set up poorly and had no intensity around the contest, but it’s not a massive lead.

[jeemak]

Lloyd heard footsteps?

It looked like his main focus was somewhere other than the footy coming at him.

[ratsmac]

I honestly believe we couldn't have played any worse so that's a positive.

We finally showed some intensity towards the end of that 2nd quarter at least.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

This is better! We should kick more goals I reckon!

Brilliant. I agree.😂

[Eastdog]

That was poo sandwich from Lloyd.

Yep thought he should have done better.

[Mofra]

Positives - Bailey Smith has learned to mark.
Cav's first goal.
This case of pinot I bought is excellent.

Negatives - pretty much everything else

[The Underdog]

A meek performance bar the last 5min when we actually had a dip.. we set up poorly and had no intensity around the contest, but it’s not a massive lead.

It is against this opposition

[comrade]

Hunter and Macrae have just butchered us tonight.

Dale doing his usual disappearing act against good opposition.

Cordy one of the worst decision makers in the league is our designated kicker.

Bont having an absolute mare.

Bailey Smith/Williams our only bright spots at this point.