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Raw Toast
22-07-2020, 08:28 PM
With yet another player debuting for us tomorrow night, my mind turned to how young players have gone in their first few games with Beveridge as coach.

For all the mad-cap intensity of our play - when we're at our best - under Bevo, one of the things I've enjoyed the most is how well the debutantes have generally played while he has been the coach of our AFLM team.

While I generally liked how we played under Wallet and Rocket, I was also envious of how more staid coaches like Mick Malthouse often seemed to get players to perform better in their first few games.

Now maybe it was a matter of the grass being greener on the other side, but it also seemed to me that we lacked a certain structure to assist these players as they started to transition to the highest level of the game. Bevo, on the other hands, seems very good at giving the newbies very structured roles and tasks, making it much easier for them to initially 'just do their job'. And we've had a heap of players since 2015 who've been really impressive in their initial games.

Now of course there's the issue of how to grow these players once they've got through their first set of games is another matter, and I don't think there's ever going to be an easy solution for that, especially once opponents work out the weaknesses of particular players who then have to try and adapt to that.

Things also get harder as expectations arise. But we've spoken at length about those issues in other threads, whereas unless I've missed it, we haven't had a thread discussing how debutantes, as a whole, have played under Bevo.

MrMahatma
22-07-2020, 11:37 PM
What’s been the best debut under Bevo?

Bulldog Joe
23-07-2020, 07:08 AM
Bevo has certainly afforded opportunity to the majority who have been drafted to the club.

He obviously instils them with the confidence to perform and most have done well.

I think only Kieran Collins was discarded forever after a single game.

His initial first gamer was Lukas Webb against Hawthorn in Launceston and we all thought we had found a 200 game half back. Unfortunately for Lukas and us it didn't work out like that.

Bevo went on to give every player on the list a game in 2015.

bornadog
23-07-2020, 09:22 AM
What’s been the best debut under Bevo?

Depends if you mean first game, or first year? Bailey Smith was sensational last year playing every game. His first game was nothing to write home about, but for a first year player, he was very good.

Axe Man
23-07-2020, 12:49 PM
All club debuts since 2015 (under Bevo) by cap number. Obviously includes players that have previously played at senior level at other clubs.

981 Boyd, Tom
982 Webb, Lukas
983 Dale, Bailey
984 Biggs, Shane
985 Hamling, Joel
986 McLean, Toby
987 Daniel, Caleb
988 Prudden, Josh
989 Smith, Roarke
990 Cordy, Zaine
991 Adams, Marcus
992 Dunkley, Josh
993 Suckling, Matt
994 Adcock, Jed
995 Williams, Bailey
996 Collins, Kieran
997 Cloke, Travis
998 English, Tim
999 Young, Lewis
1000 Lipinski, Patrick
1001 Crozier, Hayden
1002 Gowers, Billy
1003 Naughton, Aaron
1004 Trengove, Jackson
1005 Richards, Ed
1006 Schache, Josh
1007 Lynch, Brad
1008 Greene, Fergus
1009 Duryea, Taylor
1010 Lloyd, Sam
1011 Smith, Bailey
1012 Hayes, Will
1013 Young, Lachie
1014 Gardner, Ryan
1015 West, Rhylee
1016 Bruce, Josh
1017 Cavarra, Ben
1018 Keath, Alex
1019 Vandermeer, Laitham
1020 Butler, Louis
1021 Weightman, Cody

Adams, Hamling, Lippa (if he had have kicked straight), Lynch are a few that had pretty good first games.

Bulldog Joe
23-07-2020, 01:04 PM
When you look at the list Marcus Adams was probably the most impressive early.

8 marks in his first game against Freo along with 15 possessions
5 marks in his second against St Kilda with 24 possessions
15 marks in game 3 against Hawthorn with 23 possessions.

Pity for him and us that his body couldn't stand up .. and clearly the same problems continue at Brisbane for him.