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Topdog
06-09-2020, 09:15 AM
This link includes a photo of the Instagram post

https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/elijah-taylor-allegations/

Happy Days
06-09-2020, 09:24 AM
Damn. This is shocking to hear. Believe accusers everyone.

comrade
06-09-2020, 09:27 AM
Not good. We know AFL footy can be forgiving to domestic abusers but this should be career over if he’s found guilty.

Rocket Science
06-09-2020, 10:22 AM
I look forward to Wayne Carey's hot take on this.

1eyedog
06-09-2020, 10:43 AM
Holy shit this is just the worst!

The Underdog
06-09-2020, 11:05 AM
Not good. We know AFL footy can be forgiving to domestic abusers but this should be career over if he’s found guilty.

Yep, agree totally. Is he still on suspension from the Covid breach?

The Underdog
06-09-2020, 11:06 AM
I look forward to Wayne Carey's hot take on this.

Welcome to the AFL, where the only standards are double standards.

azabob
06-09-2020, 11:09 AM
Yep, agree totally. Is he still on suspension from the Covid breach?

Yeah, for the remainder of the season.

Grantysghost
06-09-2020, 11:34 AM
I look forward to Wayne Carey's hot take on this.
They’ll cross live to the set of the Full Monty.

Topdog
06-09-2020, 11:55 AM
Yeah, for the remainder of the season.

That's right and apparently it's the same girl involved

bornadog
06-09-2020, 12:39 PM
I will wait for both sides of the story before judging.

Bulldog Joe
06-09-2020, 02:12 PM
Clearly, if this is proven true it is unacceptable.

However, there must be some merit in delving into the circumstances and seeing if Taylor can be helped back to the right path in life.

Suggesting that he is finished is not helpful for anyone.

If we don't embrace a system that allows for atonement and rehabilitation we are effectively sending people to a scrapheap that will have their life spiral to a form of oblivion.

hujsh
06-09-2020, 08:31 PM
Clearly, if this is proven true it is unacceptable.

However, there must be some merit in delving into the circumstances and seeing if Taylor can be helped back to the right path in life.

Suggesting that he is finished is not helpful for anyone.

If we don't embrace a system that allows for atonement and rehabilitation we are effectively sending people to a scrapheap that will have their life spiral to a form of oblivion.

Should he be helped to be a better person and live a normal life, yes.

If true should he be granted the many benefits that come with being an AFL player? No. I believe that is what people mean when they say he's finished

Topdog
06-09-2020, 08:37 PM
Should he be helped to be a better person and live a normal life, yes.

If true should he be granted the many benefits that come with being an AFL player? No. I believe that is what people mean when they say he's finished

If true it's hard to imagine he plays again. Footy is a short career and he at this stage is a nobody.

Eastdog
06-09-2020, 09:22 PM
I will wait for both sides of the story before judging.

Yeah I’m the same as well BAD but if true it is not good.

bornadog
06-09-2020, 10:07 PM
Yeah I’m the same as well BAD but if true it is not good.

If true he should be charged by Police.

Bulldog Joe
06-09-2020, 10:30 PM
Should he be helped to be a better person and live a normal life, yes.

If true should he be granted the many benefits that come with being an AFL player? No. I believe that is what people mean when they say he's finished

As a 19 y-o he should have a chance at redemption, both in life and as a footballer. He does need to pay a penance, but he should not be ostracised from footy for life.

However, we also don't know the true story, but if true any chances at redemption should be dependent on not offending again.

Eastdog
06-09-2020, 10:38 PM
If true he should be charged by Police.

Yep absolutely. That stuff is not on.

hujsh
07-09-2020, 11:32 AM
As a 19 y-o he should have a chance at redemption, both in life and as a footballer. He does need to pay a penance, but he should not be ostracised from footy for life.

However, we also don't know the true story, but if true any chances at redemption should be dependent on not offending again.

Great, he can play state level and lower if it's true. There can't be a tolerance for what he's accused of. You shouldn't just get to be a celebrity athlete on a hundreds of thousands of dollars contract with kids looking up to you after choking and kicking a girl.

Of course this is not how society works (ask Chris Brown) so I suppose if he's a good enough footballer all will be forgiven.

bornadog
15-09-2020, 12:44 PM
Looks like he has been stood down by Swans. Police have charged him re assault.

Topdog
15-09-2020, 01:08 PM
Looks like he has been stood down by Swans. Police have charged him re assault.

not going to use the like button but thanks for the update. Story up on afl website now

https://www.afl.com.au/news/500818/stood-down-immediately-swans-take-action-after-taylor-arrest

Bolded part speaks volumes.


"As a result of the serious nature of these charges, coupled with Elijah's failure to abide by club directives on a number of occasions this year, we have made the decision to stand him down from all club commitments immediately. We will review this position as the situation unfolds.

"We believe this is the most appropriate course of action giving respect to all involved, and in light of the impending court proceedings."

Also the arrest is for something that happened a months ago, so potentially not the first time :(


This allegation, however, is related to a previous incident in Sydney prior to COVID-19.

comrade
15-09-2020, 01:11 PM
Crappy for everyone involved.

jeemak
15-09-2020, 02:24 PM
not going to use the like button but thanks for the update. Story up on afl website now

https://www.afl.com.au/news/500818/stood-down-immediately-swans-take-action-after-taylor-arrest

Bolded part speaks volumes.



Also the arrest is for something that happened a months ago, so potentially not the first time :(

I read it as the charges are related to an incident that happened on Sunday morning. The incident previously mentioned was brought to the attention of the public by the woman involved via social media, and happened in Sydney. He's not been charged for the Sydney incident.

Hopefully she is first and foremost being supported through this.

The Bulldogs Bite
15-09-2020, 03:50 PM
Getting what he deserves sadly. No excuses for this behaviour.

bornadog
15-09-2020, 05:09 PM
He needs help. 18 year old behaving badly. He has a great opportunity to use his talent and make some big dollars, wet him self up for life. I don't know his background, but doesn't sound to good, to think he can do what he did and get away with it.

Twodogs
17-09-2020, 12:16 PM
I read it as the charges are related to an incident that happened on Sunday morning. The incident previously mentioned was brought to the attention of the public by the woman involved via social media, and happened in Sydney. He's not been charged for the Sydney incident.

Hopefully she is first and foremost being supported through this.

That's how I read it too.

bornadog
17-09-2020, 12:39 PM
Funny how Elijah is stood down, but De Goey still playing

Topdog
17-09-2020, 06:41 PM
Funny how Elijah is stood down, but De Goey still playing

There is this extremely poorly written and highly contradictory article attempting to explain the difference

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-swans-stood-down-taylor-but-pies-let-de-goey-play-20200916-p55wcl.html

Happy Days
17-09-2020, 06:48 PM
There is this extremely poorly written and highly contradictory article attempting to explain the difference

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-swans-stood-down-taylor-but-pies-let-de-goey-play-20200916-p55wcl.html

I think if you stop reading at paragraph five or so he actually summed it up well;

"De Goey is a physically mature match-winner in his prime (he's booted nine goals in his past two games). Taylor, while talented, is an unproven 19-year-old draftee who has played just four games"

The AFL has only ever been willing to get knee-deep on this stuff, and will leverage social issues only to the degree they will not cost them money. We are in the entertainment business after all.

mjp
17-09-2020, 08:00 PM
I think if you stop reading at paragraph five or so he actually summed it up well;

"De Goey is a physically mature match-winner in his prime (he's booted nine goals in his past two games). Taylor, while talented, is an unproven 19-year-old draftee who has played just four games"

The AFL has only ever been willing to get knee-deep on this stuff, and will leverage social issues only to the degree they will not cost them money. We are in the entertainment business after all.

That sounds like the plot of the book 'Night Moves'. A well written book about a terrible subject.

Jeanette54
18-09-2020, 05:20 PM
I think if you stop reading at paragraph five or so he actually summed it up well;

"De Goey is a physically mature match-winner in his prime (he's booted nine goals in his past two games). Taylor, while talented, is an unproven 19-year-old draftee who has played just four games"

The AFL has only ever been willing to get knee-deep on this stuff, and will leverage social issues only to the degree they will not cost them money. We are in the entertainment business after all.

I think the league should leave De Goey in Collingwood's capable and experienced hands. After all they have had more experience with (both proven and alleged) social misfits and problem children.

Mofra
30-09-2020, 03:04 PM
He pleads guilty

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-swans-star-elijah-taylor-pleads-guilty-to-assaulting-girlfriend/news-story/9bb2fddef5e10b4f9e141f84ab53af70

Topdog
30-09-2020, 04:37 PM
He pleads guilty

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/sydney-swans-star-elijah-taylor-pleads-guilty-to-assaulting-girlfriend/news-story/9bb2fddef5e10b4f9e141f84ab53af70

Just a really bad situation all round.