View Full Version : Who has a point to prove in 2021, if only to themselves?
bulldogtragic
11-12-2020, 08:39 PM
Stef Martin - Not too old to make an impact in 2021, Brisbane got it wrong.
Adam Treloar - He is A Grade and worth every cent of the $900,000, 1/3 paid by Collingwood.
Josh Schache - Talk of JUH, Naughton & Bruce. That he deserves to be considered best 22.
Lewis Young - Hold down a KPD spot and hold it.
Bulldog Joe
11-12-2020, 08:54 PM
Stef Martin - Not too old to make an impact in 2021, Brisbane got it wrong.
Adam Treloar - He is A Grade and worth every cent of the $900,000, 1/3 paid by Collingwood.
Josh Schache - Talk of JUH, Naughton & Bruce. That he deserves to be considered best 22.
Lewis Young - Hold down a KPD spot and hold it.
If Lewis Young can command a spot as a KPD and retain it throughout the year, we should be in very good shape at the pointy end.
comrade
11-12-2020, 09:56 PM
Josh Bruce. If Marra holds his own over the pre-season, he’ll be breathing down Brucey’s neck. Does he have the pride and grit to fight back after a nightmarish 2020 and show the footy world he’s worth his long term contract?
bornadog
11-12-2020, 11:49 PM
Josh Bruce. If Marra holds his own over the pre-season, he’ll be breathing down Brucey’s neck. Does he have the pride and grit to fight back after a nightmarish 2020 and show the footy world he’s worth his long term contract?
Thanks Cooney :D
jeemak
12-12-2020, 01:33 AM
I reckon Rhylee West coming into his third year has a bit to prove.
He's not a keep on the shelf player and realistically he was borderline first round in his draft year. We've just stacked our midfield a little more so at 21 he needs to start making inroads and it's a tough road ahead for him.
bornadog
12-12-2020, 10:15 AM
I reckon Rhylee West coming into his third year has a bit to prove.
He's not a keep on the shelf player and realistically he was borderline first round in his draft year. We've just stacked our midfield a little more so at 21 he needs to start making inroads and it's a tough road ahead for him.
Still only 20 :)
AshMac
12-12-2020, 10:36 AM
I reckon there’s a few of the boys who have a statement to make.
Bruce is the obvious one after last year - but in the “experienced player” camp I’d add JJ as well. Doubt he feels heat but he has been below par for a couple of years and the whispers about his training ethic support this.
agree w comments here re. Young and West.
I’d love Treloar to get on a mission to make Collingwood regret their treatment of him and set the standard during the preseason this year.
If Bevo doesn’t absolutely flog the boys this preseason and set a culture of hard work and shared accountability again then we’re a 6-8 team again IMO.
bulldogtragic
12-12-2020, 10:40 AM
I reckon there’s a few of the boys who have a statement to make.
Bruce is the obvious one after last year - but in the “experienced player” camp I’d add JJ as well. Doubt he feels heat but he has been below par for a couple of years and the whispers about his training ethic support this.
agree w comments here re. Young and West.
I’d love Treloar to get on a mission to make Collingwood regret their treatment of him and set the standard during the preseason this year.
If Bevo doesn’t absolutely flog the boys this preseason and set a culture of hard work and shared accountability again then we’re a 6-8 team again IMO.
So Bevo has a point to prove.
AshMac
12-12-2020, 10:46 AM
So Bevo has a point to prove.
Hmmmmmm. I guess so. I’m a big fan but yes, we’ve underperformed on expectations lately.
soupman
12-12-2020, 10:50 AM
Didn't we have this thread very recently? Regardless the answer has to be Josh Dunkley.
Announces to the world that he thinks he can be the main man and is deserving of a $800K contract, tells his club he thinks he is too good to stay as a 3rd or 4th best mid and wants out, at the very least disenchants a bunch of supporters who loved him by doing so, and then cops a response from the club that not only is he staying but is challenged by being pushed even further back in the queue by Treloar.
If he has a mediocre start to the season i think it's very easy for his teammates, opposition, our supporters and the wider football public to point at him and think "Oh you are the guy who thought he was deserving of carrying a club and earning close to Bont money and instead you are just fading in and out of games averaging 16 touches and not even in the best handful of players at your club".
He has a shitload to prove after the joke of an offseason he has had.
Beveridge and Bruce strong runners up fwiw.
Twodogs
12-12-2020, 11:44 AM
I hope that at very session Trealor has a little Nathan Buckley on his shoulder saying "Collingwood doesn't rate you Adam" and prepares himself accordingly. Then he starts round one fitter than he's ever been so he can spend 24 or 25 games rubbing their noses in the dog shit they dumped on his career.
Josh Dunkley has put his hand up as a player who wants to be the main man. I want him to get more disposals and hit outs than any player in the comp and prove that he can walk the walk.
I'm not as critical of Josh Bruce 's season as some were but I also think that he has a point or two to prove. Maybe with a full season from Naughton and a few games from Marra, Josh will have a little bit less attention from the opposition and will be able to perform accordingly. I'd like to see him kick around 45/50 goals, that's about where his talent is.
Josh Scasche has too much ability to be a player who played a few OK games and then just drifted out of the scene. Maybe a move to defence or even the wing might rejuvenate his career? I'd really love to see him blossom as a footballer. He has all the tools to be a jet.
Bulldog4life
12-12-2020, 11:58 AM
Josh Schache and Lewis Young for me. Their very best on a regular basis means they play in the main team most weeks without a doubt. The question remains can they both reach that standard. I hope so as I like both players.
bornadog
12-12-2020, 12:25 PM
add JJ as well. Doubt he feels heat but he has been below par for a couple of years and the whispers about his training ethic support this.
I can categorically say this is untrue and I don't know where you got the whispers from?
Bulldog4life
12-12-2020, 12:45 PM
I can categorically say this is untrue and I don't know where you got the whispers from?
Chinese whispers???
So Bevo has a point to prove.
100%
Our time is now, If Bevo cannot get this team cracking top 6 and winning finals, we need to look at him next, the ONLY hole we have in our team is a pure lockdown defender, and I think we'll be waiting on Sam Darcy to fill that hole full time. We have the talent, we certainly have the midfield, we have a very good forward line with options a plenty.
If we don't improve, it'll be on coaching at this rate.
comrade
12-12-2020, 02:12 PM
I can categorically say this is untrue and I don't know where you got the whispers from?
Hard for anyone on WOOF to know first hand how hard any of the players work on the track, but using the eyeball test, there is no way JJ was at peak physical condition this year (in the same way Bruce failed the eyeball test).
bornadog
12-12-2020, 02:21 PM
Hard for anyone on WOOF to know first hand how hard any of the players work on the track, but using the eyeball test, there is no way JJ was at peak physical condition this year (in the same way Bruce failed the eyeball test).
You didn't read the posts. The discussion wasn't on peak fitness, it was on work ethic at training.
My source comes from the Footy Department. If posters don't believe me when i say categorically, I won't bother in future.
AshMac
12-12-2020, 02:50 PM
I can categorically say this is untrue and I don't know where you got the whispers from?
The media - can’t remember which reporter exactly but the mail I read was Dunkley was particularly disappointed w JJ and Bruce’s training effort and preparation
comrade
12-12-2020, 03:59 PM
You didn't read the posts. The discussion wasn't on peak fitness, it was on work ethic at training.
My source comes from the Footy Department. If posters don't believe me when i say categorically, I won't bother in future.
Imagine how much harder he could train (and play) if he was in even better condition.
Being a professional athlete doesn't stop once the training session finishes.
You didn't read the posts. The discussion wasn't on peak fitness, it was on work ethic at training.
My source comes from the Footy Department. If posters don't believe me when i say categorically, I won't bother in future.
Dont think anyone is disputing your info man, but one of the fuels to the Dunkley-roumor fire is that he was unhappy with the work/training ethnic of some of the other guys, JJ being one of them.
bornadog
12-12-2020, 04:53 PM
Dont think anyone is disputing your info man, but one of the fuels to the Dunkley-roumor fire is that he was unhappy with the work/training ethnic of some of the other guys, JJ being one of them.
I can tell you now it is BS, made up by most likely Essendon people.
Danjul
12-12-2020, 09:03 PM
Josh Schache and Lewis Young for me. Their very best on a regular basis means they play in the main team most weeks without a doubt. The question remains can they both reach that standard. I hope so as I like both players.
Can’t see either of them making it. The bar has been set too high.
For example, in the last three seasons Young could not get more than 2 or 3 games in a row before being overlooked for a dozen. He has watched others catch the coach’s favour. I think he made a mistake by not leaving.
AshMac
13-12-2020, 07:17 AM
I can tell you now it is BS, made up by most likely Essendon people.
I’m not happy with his work ethic on the field either. Drops his head too quickly, is soft at the footy and goes missing for days.
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