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bulldogsthru&thru
29-06-2021, 03:02 PM
Still a chance for Gardy to return for the finals if we need that 3rd tall. But we’re really exposed down back if we lose one of Keath/Cordy.

Wood and Martin’s bodies starting to break down I think.

Fingers crossed for a healthy list come the pointy end of the season. We seem to cop an injury each week while some other clubs continue a clean run.

Bulldog Joe
29-06-2021, 03:02 PM
No news on Louis Butler, who has been unsighted since being the medical sub against Melbourne.

bornadog
29-06-2021, 03:10 PM
No news on Louis Butler, who has been unsighted since being the medical sub against Melbourne.

Last week he was listed as Groin - and Test. Not sure this week.

Rocco Jones
29-06-2021, 03:14 PM
Still a chance for Gardy to return for the finals if we need that 3rd tall. But we’re really exposed down back if we lose one of Keath/Cordy.

Wood and Martin’s bodies starting to break down I think.

Fingers crossed for a healthy list come the pointy end of the season. We seem to cop an injury each week while some other clubs continue a clean run.

With Gardner, Bevo mentioned him being rusty first game back. Think he might need 2 VFL games before we trust him in a final unless we have no other option. Hopefully for him we have a VFL game during pre finals week off. I think maybe the semi (hopefully we bypass it) or prelim if he makes it.

comrade
29-06-2021, 03:24 PM
With Gardner, Bevo mentioned him being rusty first game back. Think he might need 2 VFL games before we trust him in a final unless we have no other option. Hopefully for him we have a VFL game during pre finals week off. I think maybe the semi (hopefully we bypass it) or prelim if he makes it.

I think we now need to plan for life without Gardner this year. Doesn't seem the type at all to come in to a cut throat final off some VFL games and thrive.

Bulldog4life
29-06-2021, 03:48 PM
I think we now need to plan for life without Gardner this year. Doesn't seem the type at all to come in to a cut throat final off some VFL games and thrive.

This week is either Crozier or Young in. Eventually Wood comes into the equation. No one else.

1eyedog
29-06-2021, 04:09 PM
I think we now need to plan for life without Gardner this year. Doesn't seem the type at all to come in to a cut throat final off some VFL games and thrive.

Agreed he was out for 9 weeks the first time so wouldn't even get a VFL game in until at least our first final. We can't be messing with a finals side unless forced into it.

comrade
29-06-2021, 07:03 PM
Stevo reporting that Adz recovery has now been delayed by 2 weeks, ongoing soreness. Round 20 is the goal but may be pushed back further than that. Not great.

bornadog
29-06-2021, 10:09 PM
Stevo reporting that Adz recovery has now been delayed by 2 weeks, ongoing soreness. Round 20 is the goal but may be pushed back further than that. Not great.

On AFL 360 he said recovery was slow, but wouldn't commit to when he will return.

Article from AFL.com.au


WESTERN Bulldogs star Adam Treloar concedes his recovery from ankle surgery is going slower than hoped and he has not set a timeline for a return to the AFL premiership contenders.

The midfielder has not played since going down during the Bulldogs' smashing of St Kilda in round 10, having played every game before that in his first season at the club since arriving from Collingwood.

The Bulldogs are a game and significant percentage clear in second on the ladder at 11-3 and Treloar is desperate to play again.
But the 28-year-old will not rush back and is determined to get his ankle right.

Treloar remains 4-6 weeks away from playing.

"It's going slower than what I hoped," Treloar told Fox Footy.

"Initially I was very optimistic that I would be back six weeks post-surgery.

"I'm very diligent and persistent with my rehab and that would have been this week but that's not going to be the case.

"It's just going really slow. With my soft-tissue history and other things, we're just being super precautious with it.

"The last time I hurt myself and put an expectation on when I'd get back, I didn't get back and it gets pretty deflating."

Fellow onball star Josh Dunkley is listed as 3-4 weeks away from returning from shoulder surgery.

bornadog
29-06-2021, 10:10 PM
Player
INJURY
ESTIMATED RETURN


Josh Dunkley
Shoulder
3-4 weeks


Ryan Gardner
Shoulder
6-8 weeks


Stefan Martin
Groin
1-2 weeks


Lin Jong
Hamstring
3 weeks


Adam Treloar
Ankle
4-6 weeks


Laitham Vandermeer
Knee
3-5 weeks


Easton Wood
Ankle
3-4 weeks


Updated: Tuesday, June 29



Early prognosis

The Dogs have a couple of issues out of the weekend, with Wood suffering a setback in the VFL with an ankle concern that could keep him out for multiple weeks, while at AFL level Gardner also suffered a shoulder injury that will see him miss up to eight weeks. Dunkley (shoulder) and Treloar (ankle) continue their rehabilitation from their respective long-term concerns, while Martin will miss at least the next fortnight with groin soreness. - Callum Twomey

bornadog
01-07-2021, 11:08 AM
Stevo reporting:

More detail from club today, Treloar season now in doubt. Just hasn’t been able to shake pain.

Not good

1eyedog
01-07-2021, 11:11 AM
Stevo reporting:

More detail from club today, Treloar season now in doubt. Just hasn’t been able to shake pain.

Not good

Bloody hell that's just devastating, not wanted I wanted to har at all.

Grantysghost
01-07-2021, 11:11 AM
Stevo reporting:

More detail from club today, Treloar season now in doubt. Just hasn’t been able to shake pain.

Not good

Really? Must be very unusual for that type of injury.

Martin and Treloar might be done, so we've pretty much got last year's side with Scott and Hannan.

bornadog
01-07-2021, 11:12 AM
Really? Must be very unusual for that type of injury.

Martin and Treloar might be done, so we've pretty much got last year's side with Scott and Hannan.

Martin has a slight groin - he will be fine

comrade
01-07-2021, 11:13 AM
Martin has a slight groin - he will be fine

I wouldn't count on it.

1eyedog
01-07-2021, 11:13 AM
Treloar we can cover in finals. Dunkley makes us a vastly better team we need him back most of all.

bulldogtragic
01-07-2021, 11:16 AM
There’s 8 games and a bye before finals. With over a month out already, surely our medicos can get it right by then.

Grantysghost
01-07-2021, 11:17 AM
Martin has a slight groin - he will be fine

He's old, not sure his body can handle the rigours any more. Hope I'm wrong. He's barely played, and it's a long cold winter and the signs were there last season.

I'm not as optimistic BAD but maybe he can do a Clark Keating as mentioned elsewhere.

Treloar has a long history of injury doesnt he, real shame.

comrade
01-07-2021, 11:17 AM
Seems strange we're looking to leak this publicly. Why not just keep rehabbing and see how it progresses? Perhaps more surgery is planned, which will probably sink his season.

Grantysghost
01-07-2021, 11:19 AM
There’s 8 games and a bye before finals. With over a month out already, surely our medicos can get it right by then.

I'm finding it a little hard to understand myself BT. Soreness wouldn't be unusual surely? Maybe it's worse than we realise.

Happy Days
01-07-2021, 11:23 AM
Seems strange we're looking to leak this publicly. Why not just keep rehabbing and see how it progresses? Perhaps more surgery is planned, which will probably sink his season.

Why not mention it? Trying to conceal it and seeing him listed as 3-5 weeks for the rest of the year would just be condescending to people who incessantly check this stuff (i.e: us).

bulldogtragic
01-07-2021, 11:24 AM
I'm finding it a little hard to understand myself BT. Soreness wouldn't be unusual surely? Maybe it's worse than we realise.

I think Comrade is onto something.

1eyedog
01-07-2021, 12:20 PM
FWIW Bevo still hopeful Treloar will make it back this season.

Rocco Jones
01-07-2021, 12:29 PM
Maybe it's about reducing pressure on Treloar. He has had his challenges mentally. Spoke of his disappointment earlier this week and the pressure he has put on himself in the past. Perhaps a more understanding approach to what he has had in the past. Adz had an ankle issue in pre-season right? Whatever it was, he was slow to rehab from that.

Easier for Treloar if finals seen as a bonus rather than expectation.

bulldogsthru&thru
01-07-2021, 12:34 PM
Sounds like it's just 50/50 and we just have to wait and see how it heals over time. Was mentioned Dunkley is still 4 weeks away. Seems like he's hit the classic bulldogs injury list pause.

Axe Man
01-07-2021, 12:39 PM
'It's taking a little bit more time': Treloar might not return this year (https://www.afl.com.au/news/639776/injured-bulldog-adam-treloar-might-not-return-this-year)

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge concedes Adam Treloar might not return from his ankle syndesmosis injury in time to play a role in the club's premiership push this season.

Treloar's rehabilitation is progressing slower than hoped and the Bulldogs have not bet able to set a timeline on his return.

Speaking on Thursday, Beveridge said the star midfielder has "run into some complications" after undergoing surgery in May.

"It's taking a little bit more time and the important thing with Adam is he's going to be with us for a long time, so we just keep an open mind," Beveridge said.

"We hope to get him back towards the end of the year and if for some reason that doesn't happen and it's going to take a little bit more time, it's not going to be a major issue."

Treloar joined the Bulldogs on a five-year deal after being squeezed out of Collingwood during last year's trade period.

The 28-year-old added further depth to a strong midfield group and starred over the first 10 weeks of the season, averaging 25 disposals and four clearances.

Beveridge said the Bulldogs will take a "glass half-full" approach with an eye towards the 2022 season if Treloar can't return to action this year.

"It's a possibility (that he doesn't return this season)," Beveridge said.

"These syndesmosis injuries are obviously significant and some (players) come back really quickly.

"Libba (Tom Liberatore) came back after about five weeks, which was probably a bit too early, in '16, but hasn't had any ill-effects, whereas sometimes your body reacts to surgery in different ways.

"Sometimes you have a bit more swelling or inflammation and it can take a little bit more time to get back on your feet.

"Adam's experiencing some of that and, as much as he'll be frustrated with it, we've just got to reassure him that we're not going to rush him and he's got to be 100 per cent."

Treloar's troubles come at a time when the second-placed Bulldogs are flying high despite concerns over Stefan Martin (groin), Easton Wood (ankle) and Ryan Gardner (shoulder) cropping up in recent weeks.

Tough midfielder Josh Dunkley is still listed as four weeks away from returning from shoulder surgery.

The Bulldogs will start hot favourites against last-placed North Melbourne at Marvel Stadium on Sunday.

Axe Man
01-07-2021, 12:41 PM
Adz had an ankle issue in pre-season right?

I believe it was a calf strain/tightness. He has a well known history of soft tissue injuries, I'm not aware past ankle issues.

bulldogtragic
01-07-2021, 01:45 PM
What i find interesting, is last week on 360 AT said it was going on in leaps and bounds and hoping to run by the end of last week.

We put out he would start running on the special treadmill thing.

Now he’s possibly out for the season.

It stands to reason the scans and surgical review would’ve ticked the boxes to progress to running on the specialised treadmill. So based on my experience with various surgeries and rehab, some serious pain must have arisen in the running or after the running that’s not commensurate to the reasonable expectation. If that’s roughly it, it’d be interesting to know if the plan is rest and work on upper body stuff, or surgery if the scans show why there’s the pain. Surgery would probably rule him out. Rest is indefinite until it gets better. Or try rest to get him back and if it’s clear surgery is required, then it’s over. And his preseason is micro managed.

The flip side is, if Treloar is out of our best 22 for finals, there’s a great opportunity for someone to step up and fill it.

comrade
01-07-2021, 03:56 PM
Latest injury list update:

Injury list

Butler – available
Martin – 2-3 weeks
Dunkley – 2-3 weeks
Vandermeer – 3-4 weeks
Wood – 3-4 weeks
Jong – 4-5 weeks
Gardner – 6-8 weeks
Treloar – indefinite

Obviously the Stevo leak was to prepare for the announcement that Treloar's return is now considered 'indefinite'. Good to see Dunks is right on schedule.

Also, it's unlikely but we may not have seen the last of Gardy this year.

The Bulldogs Bite
01-07-2021, 04:14 PM
Vandermeer is an interesting one too.

Looked in good form early then trailed off / got injured. Since then, we've had the likes of McLean, Hannan, Weightman and Garcia come into the side. I wonder if the MC still consider Vandermeer ahead of Hannan/Garcia? McLean/Weightman look cemented, ditto Scott.

comrade
01-07-2021, 04:20 PM
Vandermeer is an interesting one too.

Looked in good form early then trailed off / got injured. Since then, we've had the likes of McLean, Hannan, Weightman and Garcia come into the side. I wonder if the MC still consider Vandermeer ahead of Hannan/Garcia? McLean/Weightman look cemented, ditto Scott.

VDM is a long shot to get back in this year, imo. Will need a block of games at VFL level and will then need to perform well enough to jump ahead of Hannan, Garcia, Scott, McNeil etc

I love his pace and hard edge though. Him and Weightman zipping around the forward half would trouble most sides.

bulldogsthru&thru
01-07-2021, 04:21 PM
Update on Dunkley is good news.

The Bulldogs Bite
01-07-2021, 07:56 PM
VDM is a long shot to get back in this year, imo. Will need a block of games at VFL level and will then need to perform well enough to jump ahead of Hannan, Garcia, Scott, McNeil etc

I love his pace and hard edge though. Him and Weightman zipping around the forward half would trouble most sides.

We seem to rate training track form though so while he still might not play for 4 weeks, he would be doing a fair bit of training. If he played 2 solid VFL games I think the MC would be tempted because they seem to love what he brings. Agree him and Weightman would be good to see, but VDM is a risk with his injury history.

Happy Days
01-07-2021, 10:13 PM
RVDM was well on the way to getting dropped before his injury. I really like him but wouldn’t have thought he walks back into the side.

boydogs
01-07-2021, 11:10 PM
Vandermeer for Hannan would make us better, it's important he gets back especially if Treloar doesn't, need that speed around half forward

bulldogsthru&thru
05-07-2021, 06:52 PM
Stevo just said Treloar has turned the corner and could be back in 3 weeks.

azabob
05-07-2021, 06:59 PM
Stevo just said Treloar has turned the corner and could be back in 3 weeks.

I’m sorry but lolz

bornadog
05-07-2021, 07:19 PM
I’m sorry but lolz

I feel the same

macca
05-07-2021, 07:29 PM
Latest injury list update:

Injury list

Butler – available
Martin – 2-3 weeks
Dunkley – 2-3 weeks
Vandermeer – 3-4 weeks
Wood – 3-4 weeks
Jong – 4-5 weeks
Gardner – 6-8 weeks
Treloar – indefinite

Obviously the Stevo leak was to prepare for the announcement that Treloar's return is now considered 'indefinite'. Good to see Dunks is right on schedule.

Also, it's unlikely but we may not have seen the last of Gardy this year.

In just over a months time we could have 5-6 move players back from injury. If we don't add to any more injuries ( lady luck... footy gods shine on us) it could be an incredible run in September.

EasternWest
05-07-2021, 07:35 PM
Stevo just said Treloar has turned the corner and could be back in 3 weeks.

He hasn't even started his new job and he's making stuff up.

bulldogtragic
05-07-2021, 07:44 PM
He hasn't even started his new job and he's making stuff up.

Yeah. Stevo promising the return of Treloar to midfield surplus by the end of the foreword estimates, signed, sealed and delivered sounds weird.

divvydan
05-07-2021, 08:09 PM
Also mentioned that Libba had scans on his ankle but seems to have been clear so he's a chance to play this weekend.

ratsmac
05-07-2021, 09:43 PM
Stevo just said Treloar has turned the corner and could be back in 3 weeks.
I"m hearing rumours that Dunks could play as early as this week. Now if their is any ounce of truth to that it also means that Treloar must heal for the bromance to be complete :)

bulldogsthru&thru
05-07-2021, 11:33 PM
I"m hearing rumours that Dunks could play as early as this week. Now if their is any ounce of truth to that it also means that Treloar must heal for the bromance to be complete :)

Heard they’re trying to have their comeback game together and that they’ll run through their own banner before the game. Stevo said it.

Bulldog4life
06-07-2021, 07:59 AM
I"m hearing rumours that Dunks could play as early as this week. Now if their is any ounce of truth to that it also means that Treloar must heal for the bromance to be complete :)

Dunks said himself that he is aiming for round 18.

bornadog
06-07-2021, 09:00 AM
Heard they’re trying to have their comeback game together and that they’ll run through their own banner before the game. Stevo said it.

Wouldn't surprise me


He hasn't even started his new job and he's making stuff up.

Getting in practise.

jazzadogs
06-07-2021, 10:34 AM
Stevo just said Treloar has turned the corner and could be back in 3 weeks.

I'm glad that our team are encouraging Adam to work through this persistent pain. Pain is such a difficult thing to quantify and really comes down to the individual, and Adam does have a history of persistent niggling injuries.

1eyedog
06-07-2021, 11:00 AM
Posted elsewhere

angelopetraglia
06-07-2021, 11:10 AM
Footage of Treloar today at training and he looks like he is moving OK which is a positive sign.

The Adelaide Connection
06-07-2021, 11:33 AM
Footage of Treloar today at training and he looks like he is moving OK which is a positive sign.

You can hear someone yell out “Slow down mate...” which he gives a wry smile to.

bornadog
06-07-2021, 01:44 PM
injury report from AFL site not worth the paper it is written on

bulldogtragic
06-07-2021, 01:45 PM
Geez it’d be nice not to have any serious injuries for the rest of the season and head into the finals at full strength.

Mantis
06-07-2021, 02:16 PM
injury report from AFL site not worth the paper it is written on

The one on our website which I believe we would control has him listed as indefinite as it would mean a return date is unknown... might be 3 weeks, might be 6.

Great signs that he's back on his feet... hopefully he pulls up well and can ramp up his training over the next 2-3 weeks with a return date soon after.

Axe Man
06-07-2021, 05:07 PM
Naughton ruled out, Richards in frame (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/973314/naughton-ruled-out-richards-in-frame?fbclid=IwAR1CXV34t2_skJ85KwfxI81BUSVCfyCl1SYr-RihlyPd5RZwESxaYHvkyg8)

The Western Bulldogs will be without key forward Aaron Naughton but could regain dashing defender Ed Richards for this week’s match against the Sydney Swans.

Naughton was substituted out of Sunday’s win against North Melbourne at half time.

“In the second quarter, Aaron went up for an aerial contest and on coming down bumped his head,” head of sports medicine, Chris Bell, said.

“This did give him some concussion symptoms.

“Aaron has come in well today and we’ll work through our concussion process over the next 12 days to determine his availability to play.”

Richards was a late withdrawal against North due to illness.

“Unfortunately he became unwell on Saturday night and was withdrawn,” Bell said.

“Ed’s improving this week and we expect him to fully train and return to availability.”

The Bulldogs have several senior players closing in on returns from injury.

Star midfielder Josh Dunkley is now only a week or two away from being available, after having a shoulder reconstruction following the Bulldogs’ round six win against the GWS Giants

Ruckman Stefan Martin (groin) and defender Easton Wood (ankle) are both two-to-three weeks away.

Injury list

Richards (illness) – test
Naughton (concussion) – TBC
Dunkley (shoulder) – 1-2 weeks
Martin (groin) – 2-3 weeks
Wood (ankle) – 2-3 weeks
Vandermeer (knee) – 3-4 weeks
Jong (hamstring) – 4-5 weeks
Gardner (shoulder) – 5-7 weeks
Treloar (ankle) - indefinite

comrade
06-07-2021, 05:08 PM
Martin's timeframe hasn't improved from last week.

bulldogtragic
06-07-2021, 05:30 PM
Martin's timeframe hasn't improved from last week.

Remember when he was right to go against Geelong though?

bornadog
06-07-2021, 08:27 PM
Remember when he was right to go against Geelong though?
he was but did the groin at training.

I would argue he is our most important out at the moment

bulldogtragic
06-07-2021, 08:46 PM
he was but did the groin at training.

I would argue he is out most important out at the moment

I wouldn’t go quite that far. If he’s fit he plays. But his third different injury screams to me his body hasn’t got much in it. Hopefully it’s just enough this year.

azabob
08-07-2021, 08:08 PM
We really have copped our fair share of injuries.

Melbourne not so much

From SirSwampThing

Medical subs used in 2021
11 - FREM PORT
10 - WBD
9 - CARL
8 - COLL GCS GEEL RICH STK
7 - ESS NTH WCE
6 - GWS SYD
5 - ADEL BRIS
4 - HAW
3 - MELB

comrade
08-07-2021, 08:10 PM
We really have copped our fair share of injuries.

Melbourne not so much

From SirSwampThing

Medical subs used in 2021
11 - FREM PORT
10 - WBD
9 - CARL
8 - COLL GCS GEEL RICH STK
7 - ESS NTH WCE
6 - GWS SYD
5 - ADEL BRIS
4 - HAW
3 - MELB

And the one Melbourne copped against us happened in like the last minute.

Mitcha
09-07-2021, 01:02 PM
Naughts has almost been subbed off more than total Melbourne combined. Would love to know how many of ours were off early (before 1/4 or 1/2 time. Gardners first was in the first minute of that game and the other I think was second quarter. Most of ours from memory have been key position types which aren’t often like for like with the replacement player. Melbourne have been kissed on the d$&k. Good side but let’s see how they go if they happen to lose some key mids or defenders.

bulldogsthru&thru
09-07-2021, 01:07 PM
Melbourne have absolutely had a dream run with injuries. Incredible really.

I feel like 10 is low for us. I can only think of maybe 3 games where we didn’t have to use the sub and they were all near the start of the season. Feels like we have to every week.

Grantysghost
09-07-2021, 01:53 PM
Melbourne have absolutely had a dream run with injuries. Incredible really.

I feel like 10 is low for us. I can only think of maybe 3 games where we didn’t have to use the sub and they were all near the start of the season. Feels like we have to every week.

The Tigers were similar last few years. Good luck for sure, you can't help things like shoulders and ankles.

bornadog
13-07-2021, 02:32 PM
Dunkley set to return
(https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/978388)
Star midfielder Josh Dunkley will be available for selection for Saturday’s clash with the Gold Coast Suns.

The 24-year-old was one of the Western Bulldogs’ most influential players in the early stages of the season, before injuring his shoulder in round six.

Dunkley has completed his rehabilitation fro
“He has been back into full training for the last couple of weeks and hasn’t missed a beat.

“He will be looking to put his hand up for selection this weekend.”

Key forward Aaron Naughton will be a test to face the Suns, as he works back into training after a concussion injury.

“Aaron missed the weekend’s game due to a concussion that he suffered in round 16,” Bell said.

“He’s progressing well, but still has to work with our doctor to tick some boxes before we declare him available.”

Defender Easton Wood is on target to return over the next fortnight from an ankle injury, while Lin Jong is integrating back into high-speed running and football drills, with an eye to returning to play within the month.


Injury list


Josh Dunkley (shoulder) available
Aaron Naughton (concussion) test
Easton Wood (ankle) 1-2 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin) 1-2 weeks
Adam Treloar (ankle) 2-4 weeks
Laitham Vandermeer (knee) 2-4 weeks
Lin Jong (hamstring) 3-4 weeks
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) 4-6 weeks

comrade
13-07-2021, 02:33 PM
Hallelujah, the reinforcements are on their way.

DOG GOD
13-07-2021, 02:37 PM
Hallelujah, the reinforcements are on their way.

They cant come quick enough. I’d love to have dunk, Treloar, wood, Martin and vanders all firing for the first final.

Happy Days
13-07-2021, 02:37 PM
Good to see an improvement in Martin’s timetable.


I was kinda hoping for a BREAKING NEWZ Treloar shock return against the Dees but 2-4 weeks is a lot better reading than ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

bornadog
13-07-2021, 02:38 PM
Hallelujah, the reinforcements are on their way.

We need them and fingers crossed for the rest of the season

comrade
13-07-2021, 02:41 PM
Was kind of hoping for more on Martin's status. He's almost as important to our chances as Dunks.

1eyedog
13-07-2021, 02:43 PM
Good to see an improvement in Martin’s timetable.


I was kinda hoping for a BREAKING NEWZ Treloar shock return against the Dees but 2-4 weeks is a lot better reading than ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well Melbourne is 18 days away so he is a chance.

bulldogsthru&thru
13-07-2021, 02:44 PM
Surely Dunks is a straight in. No VFL needed. He's been doing full training for 2 weeks and being a shoulder injury (and being him), he'll be at peak fitness.

comrade
13-07-2021, 02:52 PM
Surely Dunks is a straight in. No VFL needed. He's been doing full training for 2 weeks and being a shoulder injury (and being him), he'll be at peak fitness.

It’s not like he needs a weak to fine tune his elite skills either. He’s just a brutal meat axe, so bring him in and let him loose.

It’s easy to forget how good we was before injury, he’s still just outside the top 5 of our WOOF award.

bulldogsthru&thru
13-07-2021, 02:55 PM
It’s not like he needs a weak to fine tune his elite skills either. He’s just a brutal meat axe, so bring him in and let him loose.

It’s easy to forget how good we was before injury, he’s still just outside the top 5 of our WOOF award.

I'm 99% sure he'll be in. If McLean can come straight back in, then Dunkley certainly can.

Axe Man
13-07-2021, 02:56 PM
Was kind of hoping for more on Martin's status. He's almost as important to our chances as Dunks.

At least Stef's return timeframe moved (in the right direction) this week. Would dearly love him to be available to face Gawn.

Mofra
13-07-2021, 02:57 PM
I'm 99% sure he'll be in. If McLean can come straight back in, then Dunkley certainly can.
He's 191cm and has rested forward a fair bit in the last three years so I'm certainly in the 'get him in' camp

Grantysghost
13-07-2021, 03:07 PM
Dunkley set to return
(https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/978388)
Star midfielder Josh Dunkley will be available for selection for Saturday’s clash with the Gold Coast Suns.

The 24-year-old was one of the Western Bulldogs’ most influential players in the early stages of the season, before injuring his shoulder in round six.

Dunkley has completed his rehabilitation fro
“He has been back into full training for the last couple of weeks and hasn’t missed a beat.

“He will be looking to put his hand up for selection this weekend.”

Key forward Aaron Naughton will be a test to face the Suns, as he works back into training after a concussion injury.

“Aaron missed the weekend’s game due to a concussion that he suffered in round 16,” Bell said.

“He’s progressing well, but still has to work with our doctor to tick some boxes before we declare him available.”

Defender Easton Wood is on target to return over the next fortnight from an ankle injury, while Lin Jong is integrating back into high-speed running and football drills, with an eye to returning to play within the month.


Injury list


Josh Dunkley (shoulder) available
Aaron Naughton (concussion) test
Easton Wood (ankle) 1-2 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin) 1-2 weeks
Adam Treloar (ankle) 2-4 weeks
Laitham Vandermeer (knee) 2-4 weeks
Lin Jong (hamstring) 3-4 weeks
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) 4-6 weeks

Gardner time frame is interesting. Quicker than Dunks. Could be a real fillip to the team coming into finals with a low injury count.

comrade
13-07-2021, 03:20 PM
Honestly, we just need to manage Stef so he's absolutely cherry ripe for week 1 of the finals. If he is at 100%, look out.

1eyedog
13-07-2021, 03:21 PM
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/978391?fbclid=IwAR17pi_YQY1beVQPmNRCAsi1bk1ror0tboIMLa7ID6wj jy7mhHX7a6yEPv0

https://resources.westernbulldogs.com.au/photo-resources/2021/07/13/c990dfd0-fd90-40f6-9993-a5d7794fd551/HERO_130721_injury.jpg?width=1904&height=1184

Happy Days
13-07-2021, 03:22 PM
As an aside I can’t really explain why but I love the pink training kits. Look so clean.

bornadog
13-07-2021, 03:30 PM
Adz will come back quicker after missing his mate in rehab. :D

1eyedog
13-07-2021, 04:20 PM
As an aside I can’t really explain why but I love the pink training kits. Look so clean.

Because you're in touch with your feminine side and that is a good thing.

The Bulldogs Bite
13-07-2021, 04:43 PM
Surely Stef would need a week in the VFL at least? He hasn't played at the top level for quite a while.

GVGjr
13-07-2021, 05:46 PM
Surely Stef would need a week in the VFL at least? He hasn't played at the top level for quite a while.

It would be an unnecessary risk if he played seniors straight away

comrade
13-07-2021, 05:50 PM
It would be an unnecessary risk if he played seniors straight away

Don't care if he needs a few half games at VFL level before building up to full VFL games and then coming in, just get him right and ready for finals.

bornadog
13-07-2021, 07:50 PM
It would be an unnecessary risk if he played seniors straight away

I would bring him straight in

Rocco Jones
13-07-2021, 08:45 PM
I would bring him straight in

The thing is, he will need reduced minutes which does not fit with AFL needs.

BornInDroopSt'54
14-07-2021, 07:20 PM
Because you're in touch with your feminine side and that is a good thing.

We all have a side of the opposite gender and it is a resource.
Catch your unconscious wealth.

jeemak
14-07-2021, 08:35 PM
Surely Stef would need a week in the VFL at least? He hasn't played at the top level for quite a while.

I'd give him a week. Need to build his base back up a bit.

Go_Dogs
17-07-2021, 06:48 AM
1011

Not sure anyone else noticed Martin has been listed as AC joint on the AFL website all week …

bornadog
17-07-2021, 10:24 AM
1011

Not sure anyone else noticed Martin has been listed as AC joint on the AFL website all week …

I saw that but thought it was an error and ignored it.

From Club website:



Player

Injury

Weeks



Josh Dunkley (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/1083/josh-dunkley)
shoulder
available


Aaron Naughton (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/1621/aaron-naughton)
concussion
test


Easton Wood (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/616/easton-wood)
ankle
1-2 weeks


Stef Martin (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/194/stefan-martin)
groin
1-2 weeks


Adam Treloar (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/492/adam-treloar)
ankle
2-4 weeks


Laitham Vandermeer (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/1931/laitham-vandermeer)
knee
2-4 weeks


Lin Jong (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/855/lin-jong)
hamstring
3-4 weeks


Ryan Gardner (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/901/ryan-gardner)
shoulder
4-6 weeks



*Updated: Tuesday 13 July 2021

Bumper Bulldogs
17-07-2021, 08:28 PM
I saw that but thought it was an error and ignored it.

From Club website:



Player

Injury

Weeks



Josh Dunkley (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/1083/josh-dunkley)
shoulder
available


Aaron Naughton (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/1621/aaron-naughton)
concussion
test


Easton Wood (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/616/easton-wood)
ankle
1-2 weeks


Stef Martin (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/194/stefan-martin)
groin
1-2 weeks


Adam Treloar (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/492/adam-treloar)
ankle
2-4 weeks


Laitham Vandermeer (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/1931/laitham-vandermeer)
knee
2-4 weeks


Lin Jong (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/855/lin-jong)
hamstring
3-4 weeks


Ryan Gardner (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/players/901/ryan-gardner)
shoulder
4-6 weeks



*Updated: Tuesday 13 July 2021

Would love to swap Gardner with Wood

hujsh
17-07-2021, 10:54 PM
Would love to swap Gardner with Wood


Dunno I feel Wood is a good replacement for Crozier. Gards may well be a nice upgrade on Cordy if we're sticking with 2 talls though

Mantis
18-07-2021, 12:07 PM
Club has just reported that Toby McLean has ruptured his ACL in his right knee… horrible news!

comrade
18-07-2021, 12:08 PM
Club has just reported that Toby McLean has ruptured his ACL in his right knee… horrible news!

Felt sick when I saw it.

Bulldog4life
18-07-2021, 12:10 PM
Club has just reported that Toby McLean has ruptured his ACL in his right knee… horrible news!

Bugger it. Poor guy. Important part of our team when he is going.

bulldogtragic
18-07-2021, 12:13 PM
Poor bloke. Bloody horrible. At training presumably?

2 ACLs in 10 months. I feel we will go more conservative again with this one. Just such a blow for him and the side.

Grantysghost
18-07-2021, 12:16 PM
Poor bloke. Bloody horrible. At training presumably?

Awful.

Training yesterday apparently.

bulldogtragic
18-07-2021, 12:17 PM
Awful.

Training yesterday apparently.

Feels like in 2016. Bleeds RW&B and as we push to finals gets a cruel injury.

kruder
18-07-2021, 12:18 PM
The same knee?

Insufficient Intent
18-07-2021, 12:20 PM
Not fair Toby! How cruel.
Incapable of elaborating further.

The bulldog tragician
18-07-2021, 12:22 PM
Awful, awful news about Toby. you also wonder what impact it has on the group, locked down together on the road, when a popular team-mate who they’ve watched go through the tedium of a long rehab suffers this fate.

ratsmac
18-07-2021, 12:22 PM
Oh no not again. Poor bloke. He would've been a handy option for finals. I'm shattered for him

Happy Days
18-07-2021, 12:23 PM
That’s just awful news.

Grantysghost
18-07-2021, 12:29 PM
The same knee?
Right knee again.

KT31
18-07-2021, 12:29 PM
Terrible news, feel for him.

azabob
18-07-2021, 12:32 PM
Far out.
A real sliding doors moment.
The VFL game goes ahead chances are he gets through the game.

angelopetraglia
18-07-2021, 12:33 PM
Horrible news for Toby. So sad.

comrade
18-07-2021, 12:35 PM
Far out.
A real sliding doors moment.
The VFL game goes ahead chances are he gets through the game.

Other clubs took their entire squad up to QLD and played a scrimmage match (Ess/North vs Bris). Not sure why we couldn't have done the same.

azabob
18-07-2021, 12:42 PM
We finally seemed to also escape a match with no injury. But alas, no, can’t take a trick.

jeemak
18-07-2021, 01:20 PM
That's putrid news.

GVGjr
18-07-2021, 01:24 PM
Poor Toby, devastating news for him.

josie
18-07-2021, 01:25 PM
Horrible, horrible, horrible news. Hope he can overcome this. Still remember so clearly that crucial goal he kicked just before half time in the GF. Was looking forward to his pressure and goal sneak abilities in the finals. No doubt our club will support him and he will give his 100% professionalism.

Anyone got stats on successful recovery from ACL when same knee goes twice? Darcy, Clay Smith, Roarke Smith, Jack Redpath…..we’ve got a bit of unwanted history. Probably most clubs do.

BornInDroopSt'54
18-07-2021, 01:27 PM
Next year Toby:(

angelopetraglia
18-07-2021, 01:41 PM
In terms of him getting the absolute best out of his talent, two ACLs in quick succession is a massive roadblock and difficult to overcome. Docherty is one that comes to mind who missed two entire seasons with consecutive ACLs. He came back after two years and didn't miss a game in 2020 after missing all of 2018 and 2019.

Go_Dogs
18-07-2021, 02:07 PM
Terrible outcome for Toby. The game can be cruel …

bornadog
18-07-2021, 02:10 PM
I feel sorry for Toby, poor bloke this is just crap.

chef
18-07-2021, 02:20 PM
Shattering.

DOG GOD
18-07-2021, 02:34 PM
One of my fave bulldogs players…feel sick for him.

1eyedog
18-07-2021, 03:49 PM
Devastating for everyone involved with the Bulldogs. I can't believe it.

I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
18-07-2021, 03:50 PM
Bugger

Bumper Bulldogs
18-07-2021, 08:22 PM
Bloody hell. Toby is the new Clay Smith.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
19-07-2021, 07:38 AM
Coming back from a weekend of camping with my mates on Sunday, switched on my phone once we got back in mobile phone range, and Toby's injury came up on my phone before I could even check the match result. Terrible news.

Bulldog Revolution
19-07-2021, 01:15 PM
Wretched news for a player and teammate who is highly valued

Seems a terrific person - and we can only hope for better luck and a better run ahead for him

Axe Man
19-07-2021, 04:40 PM
Bulldog trio nearing return (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/983178/bulldog-trio-nearing-return)

Important trio Tom Liberatore, Easton Wood and Laitham Vandermeer could be in the picture to return to football this week.

Liberatore was managed for Saturday’s win again the Gold Coast Suns and would be a welcome addition, particularly with fellow midfield star Josh Dunkley ruled out due to mandatory quarantine.

“Tom had some persisting general soreness. Being a long year, we want to make decisions to make sure that Tom plays at his best,” head of medical services, Chris Bell, said.

“We’ll work through a process with Tom this week to determine his availability.”

Wood (ankle) and Vandermeer (knee) are both closing in on comebacks from injury.

“(Easton’s) come back into full training this week and if he gets through like I expect, will be putting his hand up for selection,” Bell said.

“Laitham’s had a great block of training since a cartilage injury in his knee. He’s back into full training this week and we’ll determine when he returns to play at the back end of the week.”

Toby McLean is set for surgery later this week after sustaining an ACL injury on the weekend, while Stefan Martin’s return has hit a setback.

“Unfortunately at training on Saturday, Toby went to change direction and damaged his ACL,” Bell said.

“This is the same ACL that he had reconstructed last year.

“Stef has had some persistent soreness related to his groin injury.

“He’s missed a lot of footy this year and we want to make sure we’re slow in building him back up to full fitness for the pointy end of the season.

“We’ll confirm his return to play plan in the next few weeks.”

Injury list

Tom Liberatore (managed) – test
Easton Wood (ankle) – test
Laitham Vandermeer (knee) – test
Adam Treloar (ankle) – 2-4 weeks
Lin Jong (hamstring) – 2-4 weeks
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) – 3-5 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin/hip) – TBC
Toby McLean (knee) – season

bornadog
19-07-2021, 04:41 PM
Libba managed but on injury list.

Stef not looking good.

comrade
19-07-2021, 04:44 PM
Reckon we'll be seeing English in the ruck for the rest of the year. Good luck lad.

bulldogtragic
19-07-2021, 05:00 PM
Reckon we'll be seeing English in the ruck for the rest of the year. Good luck lad.

What is English gets injured…???…!!!?!?!!?!

bulldogtragic
19-07-2021, 05:03 PM
Sweet can’t play at this stage.

Schache & Young ruck combo in finals?

Happy Days
19-07-2021, 05:41 PM
Treloar’s timetable didn’t change. Again.

Not good.

Axe Man
19-07-2021, 05:49 PM
Best case scenario with Martin and Treloar now is we get them right just in time for finals.

Bulldog4life
20-07-2021, 10:40 AM
Treloar’s timetable didn’t change. Again.

Not good.

Adam will be on AFL360 tonight. Might find out a bit more.

MrMahatma
20-07-2021, 08:52 PM
Adam will be on AFL360 tonight. Might find out a bit more.

Yep. Said his ankle is healed and he’s heading into a training block. Hoping for round 21 return. Sounds like they’ll be cautious due to his history with soft tissue injuries and perhaps the added risks after a long lay off. I guess that may be why his time frame has been hard to pin down.

bulldogtragic
20-07-2021, 09:21 PM
Surely we just get him cherry ripe for finals week one. Managed vfl minutes for a couple of weeks.

1eyedog
20-07-2021, 10:59 PM
I would love him to just have one match before finals to regain some touch. Dunks was very rusty on the weekend.

Happy Days
20-07-2021, 11:15 PM
Assuming round 21 means fit from round 21 and not aiming to play in round 21, I’d think it’d be one game in the seconds and two in the firsts.

Now - if there is no seconds in round 21, maybe we just bite the bullet and play him on managed minutes. His value in finals is worth compromising a home and away match for.

Bulldog4life
21-07-2021, 09:56 AM
I would love him to just have one match before finals to regain some touch. Dunks was very rusty on the weekend.

Leigh Montagna said on First Crack that after a long out it takes a player about 4 games to hit their straps. He used Dangerfield as one of his examples.

1eyedog
21-07-2021, 10:19 AM
Leigh Montagna said on First Crack that after a long out it takes a player about 4 games to hit their straps. He used Dangerfield as one of his examples.

That would line him up for a Norm Smith then.

Grantysghost
22-07-2021, 01:24 PM
Wood and Vandermeer in full training today.

comrade
22-07-2021, 01:51 PM
Wood and Vandermeer in full training today.

Both players fit and firing are best 22. Going to start getting very tight for spots.

GVGjr
22-07-2021, 06:55 PM
Both players fit and firing are best 22. Going to start getting very tight for spots.

Who would they replace for us if they were ready to play this week?

comrade
22-07-2021, 06:59 PM
Who would they replace for us if they were ready to play this week?

Crozier and McNeil would have been the obvious ones for me, but who knows with Bevo?!

bornadog
23-07-2021, 01:27 PM
Treloar closing in on comeback (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/984608/treloar-closing-in-on-comeback)

Star midfielder Adam Treloar believes a strong two-week training block could have him in the frame to be back playing as soon as round 21.

The 28-year-old hasn’t played since round 10, when he suffered an ankle syndesmosis injury in the Western Bulldogs’ win against St Kilda.

He had surgery to repair the issue, with his initial return-to-play timeframe extended.

But there’s now some light at the end of the tunnel for Treloar, who has turned his attention to building his body back up to be ready to play AFL football.

“Ideally I’ll get back in the next couple of weeks,” Treloar told AFL360 this week.

“I’ve got a nice training block ahead of me in the next couple of weeks and put myself in good stead to hopefully get the last few games of the home-and-away season.

“I would love to get back as soon as possible.

“I’m always very optimistic. I’m hoping round 21, but there’s no guarantees. I’ve got to make sure I get through a good couple of weeks of training.

“The ankle’s feeling really good, so I’ve fully healed from that. It’s just about reloading and making sure I’m looking after the rest of my body – the soft tissue and all the other things that go with playing at the elite level.”

Treloar’s official timeframe is 2-4 weeks, with Bulldogs’ medical staff now confident he will be available to return during the home-and-away season after an earlier setback.

EasternWest
23-07-2021, 01:30 PM
Every time I hear or read Treloar speak I'm reminded that noted epidemiologist Buckley was right. He is of bad character and his team mates want him gone.

I don't actually think that at all, I just like to repeat that ridiculous statement.

Grantysghost
23-07-2021, 01:35 PM
Every time I hear or read Treloar speak I'm reminded that noted epidemiologist Buckley was right. He is of bad character and his team mates want him gone.

I don't actually think that at all, I just like to repeat that ridiculous statement.

Are ridiculous statements really that contagious? Asking for a friend.

bornadog
24-07-2021, 11:55 PM
Keath set for scans (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/987091/keath-set-for-scans)


Western Bulldogs defender Alex Keath will have scans on his hamstring after being subbed out of the Bulldogs’ win over Melbourne midway through the first quarter.

Senior coach Luke Beveridge was optimistic it may not be too bad for the influential Bulldog, but was hesitant to put a timeframe on the layoff.

“Until you scan these you don’t know, but it may be a good sign that he jogged off and didn’t need help,” Beveridge told media post-match.

“He felt a grab – so we’ll be able to report more once we get a result from a scan.”

The Bulldogs will also be without utility Ed Richards next week, after suffering a concussion in the third quarter.

In more positive injury news, Easton Wood and Laitham Vandermeer both emerged unscathed from a scratch match played on Saturday afternoon.

“I thought Easton played pretty well in the scratch match coming back from an ankle injury,” Beveridge said.

“He was really productive and played with some freedom.

“And Vanders – we had limited game time for him today, he played a half and then ran.. We’d probably like to see him a bit more at state level and grow that confidence again in him.”

Grantysghost
26-07-2021, 02:51 PM
Keath low grade hamstring but expected to miss 3 to 4.

Best case scenario I reckon.

Axe Man
26-07-2021, 02:53 PM
Keath, Richards ruled out (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/987969/keath-richards-ruled-out?fbclid=IwAR00-3lkIb4f4hPARhtJ2hV7ZJ0MdTq9b5UQSKxjdAAhwEuD8gTR2u2nLGM)

https://i.postimg.cc/J49T5hWB/keith-richards.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

The Western Bulldogs will be without defensive duo Alex Keath and Ed Richards for this week’s clash with the Adelaide Crows.

Keath has been a significant contributor for the Bulldogs this season, playing every game.

However, the 29-year-old was subbed out of Saturday night’s win against Melbourne and will now miss up to a month of football.

“In the first quarter, Alex came to the bench with a hamstring injury,” head of sports medicine, Chris Bell, said.

“Although low grade, I expect Alex to miss the next three to four games of footy.”

Richards will be unavailable this week after being concussed in the third quarter.

The 22-year-old has played four games in an interrupted season, after missing the first three months due to an ankle injury.

“Ed was involved in a contest where he clashed heads. This caused him to have some concussion symptoms,” Bell said.

“Ed has come in well today and we’ll work through a process in the next 10 days or so to determine his availability.”

The timeline has become clearer for experienced ruckman Stefan Martin, who continues to work his way back from a groin and hip issue.

Martin is on track to return to availability in the next 3-4 weeks.

Injury list

Lewis Young (ankle) – test
Ed Richards (concussion) – TBC
Adam Treloar (ankle) – 1-2 weeks
Louis Butler (calf) – 2-3 weeks
Lin Jong (hamstring) – 2-4 weeks
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) – 2-4 weeks
Alex Keath (hamstring) – 3-4 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin/hip) – 3-4 weeks
Toby McLean (knee) – season

bulldogtragic
26-07-2021, 03:01 PM
Just get Keath cherry ripe for Finals Week 1. That rort only we have of the extra bye, is perfect for that to happen. No need to rush.

The Bulldogs Bite
26-07-2021, 03:04 PM
It should read:

Stefan Martin (groin/hip/shoulder/chicken pox/measles/bird flu) – season

He's basically been listed as 3-4 weeks ever since about Round 7!

bulldogtragic
26-07-2021, 03:06 PM
Time for honesty, Martin is done. I went through this thread since he’s injury he bounces back and forth between 1-2 & 3-4 weeks, when not ‘indefinite’. He’s going backwards, which is the opposite outcome of injury rehabilitation. There’s just no way he’s coming back and a smidge more transparency would be nice. I doubt he then gets another year.

comrade
26-07-2021, 03:07 PM
Lewy Young couldn't have timed a potential injury any worse.

bornadog
26-07-2021, 03:47 PM
Lewy Young couldn't have timed a potential injury any worse.

On the other hand Gardner at 2-4 sounds promising.

Treloar getting close now.

SquirrelGrip
26-07-2021, 04:26 PM
Injury list

Lewis Young (ankle) – test

Don’t think Lewy will be an in this week…

Eastdog
26-07-2021, 04:29 PM
Be great to get Treloar and Dunks back.

ratsmac
26-07-2021, 05:17 PM
Be great to get Treloar and Dunks back.

I was really hoping they would be back before we played Melbourne again so we could show them that they got us at a good time the first time around, but as it turns out we didn't even need them :) That works out even better for us (obviously) tactically for finals if we play them.

I'd really like Keith back before we play Port. Dixon scares me

Axe Man
02-08-2021, 03:25 PM
Treloar in selection picture (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/993200/treloar-in-selection-picture)

Star midfielder Adam Treloar could be available to return against Essendon this week.

The 28-year-old has been sidelined since suffering an ankle syndesmosis injury in round 10 against St Kilda.

Treloar had surgery to repair the injury and after a slightly delayed rehabilitation timeline is now on the verge of bolstering the Bulldogs’ line-up.

“Adam has had a great block of six week following his syndesmosis injury,” head of medical services, Chris Bell, said.

“He hasn’t skipped a beat since he’s been back training with the main group. He will look to return to selection availability for this weekend.”

The Bulldogs will also likely have Taylor Duryea and Ed Richards return to availability.

Both missed Saturday’s win against the Adelaide Crows – Duryea was managed, while Richards sat out under concussion protocols after being injured the previous week against Melbourne.

“Ed still has some boxes to tick following the concussion he suffered in round 19. If he comes through (training) like I expect, he will return to playing this weekend,” Bell said.

“Taylor had some persisting general soreness following our game against Melbourne. He’s come in really well today and if he fully trains this week like I expect, he’ll return to playing this weekend.”

Injury list

Taylor Duryea (managed) – test
Ed Richards (concussion) – test
Adam Treloar (ankle) – test
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) – 1-2 weeks
Louis Butler (calf) – 2-3 weeks
Lin Jong (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin/hip) – 2-3 weeks
Alex Keath (hamstring) – 2-3 weeks
Toby McLean (knee) - season

comrade
02-08-2021, 03:36 PM
Sounds like Adz, Richards and Duryea are coming back. Man, it is tight for spots.

bornadog
02-08-2021, 04:36 PM
Sounds like Adz, Richards and Duryea are coming back. Man, it is tight for spots.

Gardener not far off either, what a selection headache

bulldogtragic
02-08-2021, 05:26 PM
What if the MC like this English plus Bruce &/or Schache set up? Do we risk picking Martin and propensity for injury this year. I’m not sure I’d bet a final on Martin’s fitness/propensity for injury.

If that’s the case, if Schache can do enough as a defender plus take 18 ruck contests as he did against Melbourne, plus play 95-100% game time to give our mids a few more rotations, then he plays in the first final with Keath & Gardner. That leaves Bruce spending his time forward letting Marra get the 3rd defender all game.

Martin with only 7 games (6.5 game really) in total for the H&A, I just don’t have the faith to take that risk in a final. Plus he’s been 3+ weeks pretty much the whole time, so there’s every chance he’s not fit. With Sweet not up to a final, Schache could be a vital cog in our finals campaign as a KPD/2nd Ruck. What times we live in!

Hotdog60
02-08-2021, 05:53 PM
I think Bevo likes players that can run out 100% game time so Schache and Gardner fall into that space. If the Shack can do well over the remaining games Cordy might want to watch out.

Smads57
02-08-2021, 05:54 PM
I can't see Martin playing again this year (due to injury) and think we have enough 'other' practiced options we will take into the finals. I am not worried by his exclusion as we continue to play a game that is 'team' based (with role players) versus a 'traditional' set up basis per 1990s.

Go_Dogs
02-08-2021, 09:01 PM
Agree - Martin is done for the year. Not sure he can push out JUH which is what would need to happen for balance. Also not sure we can trust his body given the second half of the season. Shame as he was travelling well over the first month of football.

Happy Days
02-08-2021, 09:54 PM
Another thing with Martin coming in - English has actually been pretty decent the last month as the first ruck. He's not winning the hitouts but he's not getting thrown aside either, and he more than makes up for it elsewhere. Now that Timmy's found his feet, and Marra has looked pretty dangerous (if not consistently involved), are we actually better for this season playing Martin?

jazzadogs
02-08-2021, 10:02 PM
Another thing with Martin coming in - English has actually been pretty decent the last month as the first ruck. He's not winning the hitouts but he's not getting thrown aside either, and he more than makes up for it elsewhere. Now that Timmy's found his feet, and Marra has looked pretty dangerous (if not consistently involved), are we actually better for this season playing Martin?

Isn't it amazing how English has got better as he got older and stronger. The early calls that he would never be a #1 ruckman might look pretty silly by the end of September. His last month has been the best pure ruck play so far in his career.

I agree that we should have had better support for him over the past few years (ideally letting him be the Luke Jackson to somebody else's Gawn), and we definitely need better injury cover in coming years, but I'm not convinced that we need to recruit a genuine #1 ruck. I think Tim is that man.

I agree that Stef doesn't come in. If Tim can not get pushed out of contests and at least break even, that was Stef's main attribute and is no longer needed.

comrade
02-08-2021, 10:25 PM
Isn't it amazing how English has got better as he got older and stronger. The early calls that he would never be a #1 ruckman might look pretty silly by the end of September. His last month has been the best pure ruck play so far in his career.

I agree that we should have had better support for him over the past few years (ideally letting him be the Luke Jackson to somebody else's Gawn), and we definitely need better injury cover in coming years, but I'm not convinced that we need to recruit a genuine #1 ruck. I think Tim is that man.

I agree that Stef doesn't come in. If Tim can not get pushed out of contests and at least break even, that was Stef's main attribute and is no longer needed.

Tim's past month has had me going from an adamant 'we'll never a win a final with English rucking' to kind of seeing how it could work. I like the idea even more if he has decent back up from someone like Schache and it means we can keep Marra in the team.

Hard to believe it a few months a go but we might actually go into the first final with English rucking, Schache in defence and back up ruck and Marra in the side. And I'd give us a huge chance of winning.

Happy Days
02-08-2021, 11:01 PM
Tim's past month has had me going from an adamant 'we'll never a win a final with English rucking' to kind of seeing how it could work. I like the idea even more if he has decent back up from someone like Schache and it means we can keep Marra in the team.

Hard to believe it a few months a go but we might actually go into the first final with English rucking, Schache in defence and back up ruck and Marra in the side. And I'd give us a huge chance of winning.

Yeah I'm with you on that. It's not that I don't think we'd benefit with another ruck in the side, it's more that I'm not sure we benefit with Stef in the side.

bornadog
03-08-2021, 09:32 PM
Swamp @sirswampthing


Times each club has used medical sub in 2021

14 - FREM
13 - PORT
12
11 - CARL COLL GCS WBD
10 - STK
9 - ADEL ESS GEEL GWS NTH RICH WCE
8
7 - HAW
6 - BRIS SYD
5
4 - MELB

Mitcha
04-08-2021, 11:31 AM
Thinking back all of ours have been genuine, mostly to top liners and quite often prior to quarter/half time. Melbourne on the other hand, surely their time will come.

Dry Rot
05-08-2021, 06:01 PM
Latest all club's injury lists is interesting. Swans have virtually no injuries.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/659070/medical-room-the-full-afl-injury-list-r21

bornadog
05-08-2021, 07:17 PM
Latest all club's injury lists is interesting. Swans have virtually no injuries.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/659070/medical-room-the-full-afl-injury-list-r21

Makes a huge difference

Testekill
08-08-2021, 07:08 PM
Suspected ACL for Bruce

bornadog
08-08-2021, 07:33 PM
Dogs suspect worst for Bruce (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/997250/)


Western Bulldogs key forward Josh Bruce has suffered a suspected ACL injury in the dying seconds of Sunday’s loss to Essendon at Marvel Stadium.

The 29-year-old was playing his 150th AFL game and had kicked three goals, before injuring his knee laying a tackle in the forward pocket.

“That seems to be the fear (an ACL injury),” Beveridge said post-game.

“It’s not looking good, but our guys will confirm what the outcome is after a scan tomorrow.

“When the medicos infer that something as drastic as that has happened, they always want confirmation.”

Bruce has been a key contributor for the Bulldogs in 2021 and sits equal-second in the Coleman Medal race, with 48 majors.

1eyedog
09-08-2021, 12:47 PM
Bruce ACL confirmed.

https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/997776/?fbclid=IwAR0slGmON5aDoQIyQ3vyIpr19YGXTVNWz2aYBGvbcgt4rvix1z PQqHRhKXs

https://resources.westernbulldogs.com.au/photo-resources/2021/08/09/ee073aa8-3f81-4705-8b9c-0c04e8993b6a/HERO_090821Bruce.jpg?width=1904&height=1184

Mantis
09-08-2021, 12:53 PM
Bugger!

Grantysghost
09-08-2021, 12:54 PM
Bruce ACL confirmed.

https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/997776/?fbclid=IwAR0slGmON5aDoQIyQ3vyIpr19YGXTVNWz2aYBGvbcgt4rvix1z PQqHRhKXs

https://resources.westernbulldogs.com.au/photo-resources/2021/08/09/ee073aa8-3f81-4705-8b9c-0c04e8993b6a/HERO_090821Bruce.jpg?width=1904&height=1184

Second in the Coleman, on the eve of finals in the last few seconds of the game. That's as cruel as it gets.

All the best Josh, hopefully can come back late next year as a 30 yr old and help us with a flag tilt.

merantau
09-08-2021, 02:24 PM
Well this is just another challenge to overcome. It has to be dealt with. It won't go away. Heartbreaking for Josh but he would expect all staff and supporters to get behind the Club, work hard, support one another and keep winning!!

bulldogsthru&thru
09-08-2021, 02:49 PM
Very very cruel. With only a few seconds left. My heart goes out to Josh. Lockdown is gonna make things harder on him. Hope he makes a speedy recovery.

Hotdog60
09-08-2021, 05:15 PM
That really sucks I kinda think he would have done well in finals especially if we get to the big dance as his days are in football are starting to get on the wrong side of the scales.

The bulldog tragician
09-08-2021, 06:29 PM
It really is devastating news. I’ve enjoyed what he’s brought to the table this year. Not just the vastly improved on field efforts but his enjoyment of his teammates success is really infectious. Such a cruel cruel game this is - we haven’t had a good run this year, and the timing couldn’t be worse.

I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
09-08-2021, 09:10 PM
He probably won’t be back next season either so late in the season to do an acl

FrediKanoute
09-08-2021, 09:17 PM
270 days, so back by round 12 I reckon.

bornadog
10-08-2021, 03:37 PM
Reinforcements on the way (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/998382/)

The Western Bulldogs could have four important players back at their disposal for this weekend’s clash against Hawthorn.

Key defenders Alex Keath (hamstring) and Ryan Gardner (shoulder) could both be in the mix after injury layoffs.

“Alex has made fantastic progress following his minor hamstring injury. He’ll come back into full training this week and if he ticks our final boxes, he’ll return to availability,” head of sports medicine, Chris Bell, said.


“(Ryan) has been incredibly diligent following his surgery and if he gets through training this week, I expect him to return to playing.”

The Bulldogs could also regain forwards Mitch Hannan (shoulder) and Cody Weightman (managed).

The pair would be welcome additions to help offset the loss of Josh Bruce, with the star goal-kicker set for surgery later this week following a season-ending ACL injury.

“Cody had some persisting general soreness last week… he has improved and again, if he gets through training this week, I expect him to return to playing,” Bell said.

“Mitch had a contact shoulder injury in the dying seconds of the Adelaide game. We’ll put him through his paces this week before we determine his availability.”

Forward-turned-defender Josh Schache will also be a test this week after hyper-extending his knee in Sunday’s loss to Essendon.

“He did complete the game and scans have cleared him of any serious structural damage,” Bell said.

“We’ll work through a process with Josh this week to determine his availability.”

Injury list

Ryan Gardner (shoulder) – test
Mitch Hannan (shoulder) – test
Alex Keath (hamstring) – test
Josh Schache (knee) – test
Cody Weightman (shoulder) – test
Louis Butler (calf) – 1-2 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin/hip) – 1-2 weeks
Josh Bruce (knee) – season
Toby McLean (knee) – season

hujsh
10-08-2021, 03:58 PM
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) – test
Mitch Hannan (shoulder) – test
Alex Keath (hamstring) – test
Josh Schache (knee) – test
Cody Weightman (shoulder) – test
Louis Butler (calf) – 1-2 weeks
Stefan Martin (groin/hip) – 1-2 weeks
Josh Bruce (knee) – season
Toby McLean (knee) – season

We're really super serious this time guys. FOR SURE 1-2 weeks. No doubt about it

Axe Man
10-08-2021, 04:06 PM
We're really super serious this time guys. FOR SURE 1-2 weeks. No doubt about it

At least he's moving in the right direction now.

Grantysghost
10-08-2021, 04:14 PM
We're really super serious this time guys. FOR SURE 1-2 weeks. No doubt about it

What's a groin / hip btw? Make up your mind!

I'm Not Bitter Anymore!
10-08-2021, 04:21 PM
It’s like Scott Basset’s 16 week quad injury all over again

MrMahatma
10-08-2021, 04:29 PM
At least he's moving in the right direction now.

Absolutely! And with the pre-finals bye he's got over 3 weeks to get right. I'm bullish.

Eastdog
10-08-2021, 04:29 PM
Be good to get Alex Keath back. Important player for us holding up our defence.

MrMahatma
10-08-2021, 04:30 PM
I do wish the club would mention Stef in an injury update. Even to admit it's taking longer than expected but they're still planning on him playing again this season.

No actual commentary about it is what makes the time-line feel made up.

Eastdog
10-08-2021, 04:30 PM
I wish Josh Bruce well. Such a blow at this stage into the season with a big finals series coming up. He has been really good this season. I like what he has brought to the table.

1eyedog
10-08-2021, 05:25 PM
What's a groin / hip btw? Make up your mind!

Essentially osteitis pubis hence the slow recovery period and unknown ETA on his availability. It effects the groin but also radiates to soreness around the hip. Early hip soreness can often denote the early stages of osteitis pubis.

In many instances it is a protracted injury that can all of a sudden improve really quickly.

Let's hope it does and he gets a game in before finals.

Grantysghost
10-08-2021, 05:28 PM
Essentially osteitis pubis hence the slow recovery period and unknown ETA on his availability. It effects the groin but also radiates to soreness around the hip. Early hip soreness can often denote the early stages of osteitis pubis.

In many instances it is a protracted injury that can all of a sudden improve really quickly.

Let's hope it does and he gets a game in before finals.

Ah makes sense thanks. Wonder why they just don't put OP. Not in vogue anymore.

1eyedog
10-08-2021, 06:26 PM
Ah makes sense thanks. Wonder why they just don't put OP. Not in vogue anymore.

I have no idea but when you have on-going groin and hip soreness it's almost always associated with OP. I'm no Doctor but I've had it and researched it heaps cause it was shit when I had it.

Axe Man
12-08-2021, 01:26 PM
'It would be risky': Big Dog's finals return in doubt (https://www.afl.com.au/news/663073/-it-would-be-risky-big-dog-s-finals-return-in-doubt)

WESTERN Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge says it would be a huge risk to select Stefan Martin during the finals, but he hasn't closed the door completely on the veteran ruckman.

Martin, who has been sidelined since round 12 with hip and groin issues, is on track to be fit for selection in the coming weeks.

But given his lengthy stint on the sidelines, Martin faces an uphill battle to win a spot in the side as the club pushes for premiership success.

"It would be risky wouldn't it?" Beveridge said on Thursday.

"For a player that's been out for so long, it would be a huge risk. You just can't afford to lose anyone in those circumstances in any game, let alone a final.

"It would be less likely that he'd be selected. But it probably depends more on the training block in the lead-in.

"If he can really be on top of things physically with what we throw at him, then that would give us peace of mind if we get there.

"But we're not counting on it."

Of more immediate concern to Beveridge is attempting to find a way to fill the void left by spearhead Josh Bruce, who suffered a season-ending ACL injury in last week's loss to Essendon.

Bruce has booted a team-high 48 goals this season, with Aaron Naughton (38 goals) and midfielder Marcus Bontempelli (25) the next best.

Beveridge revealed Bruce hasn't even been able to see his close family since rupturing his ACL.

Bruce is set to undergo surgery on Thursday, with the 29-year-old forced to wait a few extra days to make sure a graze in his other leg wasn't infected.

"He's been isolated from Pip - his partner ... and his two children because of the fact they were up north after our Gold Coast game and then the quarantine aspect," Beveridge said.

"So he hasn't seen them for a little while either. They're scheduled to come out of isolation today as well. So at least he'll wake up to his family, that's a real positive."

With the second-placed Bulldogs well and truly in the flag hunt, Beveridge said Bruce's knee injury was a big blow.

Bruce has played just one final in his 150-game AFL career - the Bulldogs' elimination final loss to his former side St Kilda last year.

"It is devastating for Josh but we've got to move on pretty quickly because there's a lot at stake. We'll find a way," Beveridge said.

The Bulldogs can take a major step towards locking up a top-two berth with victory over Hawthorn in Launceston on Saturday.

Grantysghost
12-08-2021, 01:39 PM
I'm not sure how to read that. For some reason it's made me more confident of a return.

macca
12-08-2021, 01:43 PM
I'm not sure how to read that. For some reason it's made me more confident of a return.

I read it the same way. Bevo not giving anything away, put some doubt in the opposition on who is available.

Stefan is 2 weeks away from returning.

Axe Man
12-08-2021, 01:53 PM
I read it the same way. Bevo not giving anything away, put some doubt in the opposition on who is available.

Stefan is 2 weeks away from returning.

Bevo pretty much ruled Treloar out for the season a while back so who knows?

bornadog
12-08-2021, 02:12 PM
I'm not sure how to read that. For some reason it's made me more confident of a return.

Ducks and drakes

1eyedog
12-08-2021, 02:29 PM
Expect Martin to play against Port

boydogs
13-08-2021, 01:34 AM
Expect Martin to play against Port

Yeah I think if he doesn't get up by then we won't risk him

bornadog
16-08-2021, 02:35 PM
Injury list

Louis Butler (calf) – available
Ryan Gardner (shoulder) – available
Stefan Martin (groin/hip) – test
Josh Schache (knee) – test
Josh Bruce (knee) – season
Toby McLean (knee) – season

boydogs
17-08-2021, 12:26 AM
That's pretty bloody good to be honest. How many years are you missing only 2 players heading into finals?

BornInDroopSt'54
22-08-2021, 06:36 PM
That's pretty bloody good to be honest. How many years are you missing only 2 players heading into finals?
Now that is.
However our injuries throughout the season have cost us our best ever H&A season.
Players like Treloar, Dunkley and Martin returning all too late in the season from long term injuries has shafted us.
We are very vulnerable despite our great team.

bulldogtragic
22-08-2021, 06:37 PM
Blood pressure spiked seeing this bumped.

BornInDroopSt'54
22-08-2021, 06:38 PM
Riley Garcia unfortunately suffered knee injury in very last session of year.

Lucky Scans have confirmed he Jarred the knee but scans reveal ACL intact. Will be ok with a bit of rest.
Dodged a bullet but how come Melbourne and others do not have our injury rate that has heavily compromised our promising era?

BornInDroopSt'54
22-08-2021, 06:43 PM
Blood pressure spiked seeing this bumped.

Mate I had an angiogram last week.
At 67 heart ends up healthy as. I am fit and vital despite high bp.
Bulldogtragic just take your meds EVERY day.
That is what I learnt.
And don't blackmail people with your blood pressure :)

bornadog
22-08-2021, 07:10 PM
Dodged a bullet but how come Melbourne and others do not have our injury rate that has heavily compromised our promising era?

You posted this twice so really want a response :D

All a matter of luck

MrMahatma
22-08-2021, 08:05 PM
Our injuries seem to have been pretty unlucky with contact injuries and a couple of knees.

Hopefully we keep a full bill of health for a good run at it.

1eyedog
23-08-2021, 09:56 AM
Now that is.
However our injuries throughout the season have cost us our best ever H&A season.
Players like Treloar, Dunkley and Martin returning all too late in the season from long term injuries has shafted us.
We are very vulnerable despite our great team.

Dunkley and Treloar's inability to impose themselves on the contest and their clear lag in confidence is partly shafting us I'll agree. Libba has been blindfolded around stoppages and Dunkley in particular has given us nothing since coming back. Macrae and Libba c. 2016 is a case in point. Really good players find ways of contributing quickly after long injury lay offs.

divvydan
23-08-2021, 02:18 PM
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1007393/crozier-richards-ruled-out

Crozier (concussion) and Richards (shoulder) both unavailable for selection. Everyone else available bar Bruce and McLean.

bornadog
23-08-2021, 02:29 PM
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1007393/crozier-richards-ruled-out

Crozier (concussion) and Richards (shoulder) both unavailable for selection. Everyone else available bar Bruce and McLean.

Bad luck for Ed.

BornInDroopSt'54
26-08-2021, 04:38 PM
Bad luck for Ed.

And us.

Bumper Bulldogs
30-08-2021, 09:01 PM
Good news with no injuries coming out of the Bombers game.

bornadog
31-08-2021, 04:45 PM
Cordy available for Semi Final (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1011755/)

Key defender Zaine Cordy will be available to play in Saturday’s semi final against Brisbane.

The 24-year-old was a late withdrawal from the Bulldogs’ elimination final team over the weekend with illness.

“On the morning of the game, Zaine woke up not quite feeling himself - we didn’t want to take any risks, so Zaine was a late withdrawal,” Bulldogs’ head of sports medicine, Chris Bell, said.

“I’m happy to say that Zaine is back to feeling 100%. He fully trained today, and will be ready to go on the weekend.”

The Bulldogs could also see both Hayden Crozier and Ed Richards return to availability, following their recoveries from a concussion and shoulder injury respectively.

“Hayden still has some boxes to tick with our doctor, but I expect him to come back into full training this week,” Bell said.

“If Hayden gets through like I expect, he will return to availability.

“Ed has made some great progress following his shoulder injury. He’s coming back into full training this week, and we’ll put him through his paces on Thursday to determine if he’s putting his hand up for selection.”

The Bulldogs will release their team of 22 and four emergencies on Thursday at 6.20pm.


Injury List


Zaine Cordy (illness) - Available


Hayden Crozier (concussion) – Test


Ed Richards (shoulder) – Test


Josh Bruce (knee) – Season


Toby McLean (knee) -Season

Mitcha
31-08-2021, 04:48 PM
Gardner>>>>>>>>>>Daylight>>>>>>>>>>>Cordy.

comrade
31-08-2021, 04:50 PM
Cordy available for Semi Final (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1011755/)

Key defender Zaine Cordy will be available to play in Saturday’s semi final against Brisbane.

The 24-year-old was a late withdrawal from the Bulldogs’ elimination final team over the weekend with illness.

“On the morning of the game, Zaine woke up not quite feeling himself - we didn’t want to take any risks, so Zaine was a late withdrawal,” Bulldogs’ head of sports medicine, Chris Bell, said.

“I’m happy to say that Zaine is back to feeling 100%. He fully trained today, and will be ready to go on the weekend.”

The Bulldogs could also see both Hayden Crozier and Ed Richards return to availability, following their recoveries from a concussion and shoulder injury respectively.

“Hayden still has some boxes to tick with our doctor, but I expect him to come back into full training this week,” Bell said.

“If Hayden gets through like I expect, he will return to availability.

“Ed has made some great progress following his shoulder injury. He’s coming back into full training this week, and we’ll put him through his paces on Thursday to determine if he’s putting his hand up for selection.”

The Bulldogs will release their team of 22 and four emergencies on Thursday at 6.20pm.


Injury List


Zaine Cordy (illness) - Available


Hayden Crozier (concussion) – Test


Ed Richards (shoulder) – Test


Josh Bruce (knee) – Season


Toby McLean (knee) -Season

Nah, we good Zaine. Thanks though.

bulldogtragic
31-08-2021, 05:03 PM
So Martin isn’t even making the list anymore…

Semi final and only three injuries is usually awesome. But one a Premiership player, the other first ruck and the other our leading goal kicking. All out got the year,

comrade
31-08-2021, 05:05 PM
So Martin isn’t even making the list anymore…

Semi final and only three injuries is usually awesome. But one a Premiership player, the other first ruck and the other our leading goal kicking. All out got the year,

If it was just one of Bruce or Martin, we’d be a heap better off. Two key pillars is a bitter pill to swallow.

bulldogtragic
31-08-2021, 05:19 PM
If it was just one of Bruce or Martin, we’d be a heap better off. Two key pillars is a bitter pill to swallow.

Imagine if we invested in a younger decent enough ruck, not a 34yo with a shot body? Wish we could go back in time and make a different decision. But since we can’t, let’s hope we don’t make the same mistake this year.

bulldogtragic
02-09-2021, 11:23 AM
Presser: Beveridge was still finalising his team but he said ruckman Stefan Martin (groin) may not feature again this season.

KT31
02-09-2021, 02:42 PM
Presser: Beveridge was still finalising his team but he said ruckman Stefan Martin (groin) may not feature again this season.

Retire him now, surely couldn't have reached any extension clauses in his contract and only managed to get on the track for six games this season.

Mitcha
02-09-2021, 03:01 PM
Delist then redraft back as a rookie/ruck coach. Would be handy to have in the wings Mumford style, especially if Sweet gets the flick.

bornadog
02-09-2021, 03:07 PM
Delist then redraft back as a rookie/ruck coach. Would be handy to have in the wings Mumford style, especially if Sweet gets the flick.

Agree.

The Adelaide Connection
02-09-2021, 05:22 PM
There have been a few rumblings in FB land that a player has been injured at training, allegedly from something Bevo said in his presser. Might be bollocks, but there are a few claiming they know who it is and aren’t saying anything till the club confirms.

bulldogtragic
02-09-2021, 05:27 PM
There have been a few rumblings in FB land that a player has been injured at training, allegedly from something Bevo said in his presser. Might be bollocks, but there are a few claiming they know who it is and aren’t saying anything till the club confirms.

I know. But out of respect to the club, I will let them announce it. But I definitely know everything and lots of stuff, like lots.

DOG GOD
02-09-2021, 05:56 PM
I know. But out of respect to the club, I will let them announce it. But I definitely know everything and lots of stuff, like lots.

Geez, I hope no one has done their knee

bulldogtragic
02-09-2021, 06:07 PM
Geez, I hope no one has done their knee

All I can say is that it’s a body part.

I’ve said too much.

EasternWest
02-09-2021, 06:10 PM
There have been a few rumblings in FB land that a player has been injured at training, allegedly from something Bevo said in his presser.

Powerful man to cause a physical injury with words.

Mitcha
03-09-2021, 01:49 PM
There have been a few rumblings in FB land that a player has been injured at training, allegedly from something Bevo said in his presser. Might be bollocks, but there are a few claiming they know who it is and aren’t saying anything till the club confirms.
Watched some training vision on the club website yesterday and failed to see Caleb anywhere during the ball movement drills.

Happy Days
03-09-2021, 01:52 PM
Just saw some footage of Caleb walking, I repeat walking onto the team bus and up its stairs.

bulldogtragic
03-09-2021, 01:55 PM
Just saw some footage of Caleb walking, I repeat walking onto the team bus and up its stairs.

That’s a relief. Thanks HD.

bulldogsthru&thru
03-09-2021, 01:57 PM
Just saw some footage of Caleb walking, I repeat walking onto the team bus and up its stairs.

Horrible news. Why wasn’t he running? We can’t have him walking Saturday night. Although he’d still stick to his opponent better than Zaine.

bornadog
05-09-2021, 11:39 AM
Bontempelli after knee scare (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1013535/bulldogs-to-assess-bontempelli-after-knee-scare)

Western Bulldogs superstar Marcus Bontempelli will be assessed in the coming days after finishing Saturday night’s Semi Final on the interchange bench with a knee injury.

Bontempelli was an excellent contributor in the Bulldogs’ epic one-point win over the Brisbane Lions, but left the field after pushing forward late in the game and coming off second best in a crucial marking contest against three opposition defenders.

“He copped a knock to the back of his knee. It’s difficult to know the extent of any injury,” senior coach Luke Beveridge told media after the game.

“He’s obviously a little bit sore. We’ll need a little bit of time before we can assess it.

“He’ll probably get a scan when we get to Perth and see if there’s any damage in there.”

Bontempelli finished the game with 29 possessions, seven tackles and nine score involvements in a typically influential performance.

“I just landed quite awkwardly. I was a bit ginger initially, so rather than limp around out there probably the right thing was just the interchange,” he told Channel 7 after the match.

1eyedog
05-09-2021, 11:47 AM
Bontempelli after knee scare (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1013535/bulldogs-to-assess-bontempelli-after-knee-scare)

Western Bulldogs superstar Marcus Bontempelli will be assessed in the coming days after finishing Saturday night’s Semi Final on the interchange bench with a knee injury.

Bontempelli was an excellent contributor in the Bulldogs’ epic one-point win over the Brisbane Lions, but left the field after pushing forward late in the game and coming off second best in a crucial marking contest against three opposition defenders.

“He copped a knock to the back of his knee. It’s difficult to know the extent of any injury,” senior coach Luke Beveridge told media after the game.

“He’s obviously a little bit sore. We’ll need a little bit of time before we can assess it.

“He’ll probably get a scan when we get to Perth and see if there’s any damage in there.”

Bontempelli finished the game with 29 possessions, seven tackles and nine score involvements in a typically influential performance.

“I just landed quite awkwardly. I was a bit ginger initially, so rather than limp around out there probably the right thing was just the interchange,” he told Channel 7 after the match.

Interesting that no ice was applied on the bench and he was walking around and even when up for an interview after the game.

angelopetraglia
05-09-2021, 12:03 PM
Interesting that no ice was applied on the bench and he was walking around and even when up for an interview after the game.

Agree. No ice at all. Appeared to be walking freely. Fingers crossed.

1eyedog
05-09-2021, 12:27 PM
Bontempelli after knee scare (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1013535/bulldogs-to-assess-bontempelli-after-knee-scare)

Western Bulldogs superstar Marcus Bontempelli will be assessed in the coming days after finishing Saturday night’s Semi Final on the interchange bench with a knee injury.

Bontempelli was an excellent contributor in the Bulldogs’ epic one-point win over the Brisbane Lions, but left the field after pushing forward late in the game and coming off second best in a crucial marking contest against three opposition defenders.

“He copped a knock to the back of his knee. It’s difficult to know the extent of any injury,” senior coach Luke Beveridge told media after the game.

“He’s obviously a little bit sore. We’ll need a little bit of time before we can assess it.

“He’ll probably get a scan when we get to Perth and see if there’s any damage in there.”

Bontempelli finished the game with 29 possessions, seven tackles and nine score involvements in a typically influential performance.

“I just landed quite awkwardly. I was a bit ginger initially, so rather than limp around out there probably the right thing was just the interchange,” he told Channel 7 after the match.

Bontempelli 'Yeah should be alright initial test and what not are pretty good'

Axe Man
06-09-2021, 03:05 PM
Bont a chance to play, Weightman ruled out (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1013857/bont-a-chance-to-play-weightman-ruled-out)

Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli is considered a chance to take his place in this Saturday night’s Preliminary Final, while enigmatic forward Cody Weightman has been ruled out under AFL concussion protocols.

Bontempelli will be tested throughout the week to determine if he can lead the side out against Port Adelaide.

“In the last minutes of the game, Marcus landed and had his knee twisted,” said Bulldogs’ head of sports medicine, Chris Bell.

“Scans have cleared him of any serious structural damage, but he does have some symptoms related to the injury.

“We’ll work with Marcus through the back end of this week to determine his availability.”

Weightman was withdrawn at half time of the Bulldogs’ memorable win over Brisbane at the Gabba after colliding with Lions’ defender Marcus Adams.

“During the half time break we made the decision to remove him from the game,” Bell said.

“Subsequent testing has confirmed he does have some low-level concussion symptoms.

“He won’t play this week, but we’ll monitor Cody in the next couple of days to determine his availability.”



Injury list (at September 6)

Marcus Bontempelli (knee) TEST

Cody Weightman (concussion) TBC

Josh Bruce (knee) SEASON

Toby McLean (knee) SEASON

BornInDroopSt'54
07-09-2021, 05:10 PM
Clearly we are not foxing with Cody as we took him off but surely we test the rules if he is as alert as he seems.
Plenty of room for foxing with Bonty but reading his body language he looked very concerned.

jeemak
07-09-2021, 05:42 PM
Clearly we are not foxing with Cody as we took him off but surely we test the rules if he is as alert as he seems.
Plenty of room for foxing with Bonty but reading his body language he looked very concerned.

Sorry bud, it's already been confirmed Flea will miss.

bornadog
13-09-2021, 11:29 AM
Vandermeer’s battle to prove fitness (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1016404/vandermeer-s-battle-to-prove-fitness)


Western Bulldogs forward Laitham Vandermeer will be racing the clock to be fit in time for the Toyota AFL Grand Final after being subbed out of the preliminary final against Port Adelaide with hamstring tightness.


Just a week ago, the 22-year-old rushed through a match-winning point to get the Bulldogs across the line in a semi-final, and he started brightly against the Power with the second goal of the match.


Coach Luke Beveridge said Vandermeer is now in doubt for the premiership decider in a fortnight against Melbourne.


"He's a bit tight in the hamstring. He's got scary history with his soft-tissue, Laith, and our guys thought if he ran any more it was just about to explode," Beveridge said.


"He definitely feels like he hasn't had a nasty injury but he had to come out of the game because he couldn't run.


"So that's a concern because he's been important for us. But at the moment he'll be doubtful."

Exciting young forward Cody Weightman missed the preliminary final due to a concussion sustained against the Lions but will be available for the Grand Final if he passes the standard protocols.


Beveridge also threw his support behind prized recruit Adam Treloar after the midfielder came in for stinging criticism for his performance in the semi-final against Brisbane.


"For a guy like Adam that people know has had some challenges over the journey, it was just really poor, vindictive stuff and it was really distasteful," Beveridge said.


"He has an average game last week, he didn't like it. But what a great night for him to be able to withstand that and then give a great contribution for his teammates and our footy club.


"I'm really proud of him and just bloody disappointed in a few people that are really nasty."


The Bulldogs are now into their second Grand Final under Beveridge and their first since breaking the club's 62-year premiership drought in 2016.


Their opponent Melbourne will now hope to break its own drought of 57 years in what is a rematch of the 1954 decider.


Beveridge started his playing career at the Demons with 42 matches in 1989-92 but will be hoping to prolong his former club's pain for at least another season.


"As much as I would love for them to salute at some point, I definitely don't want it in two weeks' time,” Beveridge said.


"Like us in '16, the Demons have had to wait for a long time. I imagine the emotions and the public support will be behind the Demons to break the drought, I get that, I understand that.


"But obviously we'll be doing our best to spoil the party."

bulldogtragic
13-09-2021, 07:23 PM
Ralphy said he spoke to Chris Grant. Apparently VDM scans were perfect, just tight. Expected to be fit for selection.

Bumper Bulldogs
13-09-2021, 10:01 PM
Ralphy said he spoke to Chris Grant. Apparently VDM scans were perfect, just tight. Expected to be fit for selection.

That makes selection even more tighter. Wouldn’t want to be on the MC now.

Thought I could help them out through the test but now it’s the pointy end and I have nothing. Nothing but faith

bornadog
14-09-2021, 11:14 PM
Weightman available, duo to be tested (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1017076/weightman-available-duo-to-be-tested)

Electric small forward Cody Weightman will be available for selection in next Saturday’s 2021 Toyota AFL Grand Final.

The 20-year-old missed last weekend’s preliminary final win over Port Adelaide as per AFL concussion protocols, but has since passed his testing.

“In the game against Brisbane, Cody was removed due to a concussion,” Bulldogs’ head of medical services, Chris Bell, said.

“He has now passed all of his concussion tests, and will look to reintegrate back into contact training at the end of this week.”

Bulldogs’ duo Laith Vandermeer and Alex Keath will be put through their paces throughout the week, after both reported some hamstring tightness.

Vandermeer was subbed out in the third quarter of the preliminary final.

“In the third quarter, Laitham received a knock to his gluteal area which caused some associated hamstring fatigue,” Bell said.

“Scans have since cleared him of any structural hamstring damage, so we’ll look to re-integrate Laitham back into full training at the end of this week.

“In the dying seconds (of the semi-final), Alex reported some hamstring tightness. We didn’t want to take any risks, so he didn’t play on the weekend.

“Alex is now clear of symptoms, and we are currently reloading his speed.

“He will look to full train next week, and we remain optimistic that he will be pulling the jumper on for the Grand Final.”

INJURY LIST


Cody Weightman (concussion) – available
Alex Keath (hamstring tightness) – test
Laith Vandermeer (hamstring tightness) - test
Toby McLean (knee) – season
Josh Bruce (knee) – season

bulldogtragic
18-09-2021, 09:59 PM
Going into the GF in slightly less than a week now, this is the summary of the injuries suffered in 2021 (from this thread):

Treloar, Young, Bonts (didn’t miss), Dunkley, Hunter, Martin, Crozier, Wood, Schache, Duryea (managed), McLean, Bruce, Butler, Weightman, Richards, Libba (managed), Marra, Vandermeer, Scott, Hannan, Naughton, Williams, Daniel (didn’t miss), Garcia, Keath, Gardner, English, Jong

But. The only clearly best 22 not available is Bruce. We got more than our fair share of injuries. But we’ve had them at the right time as fate has it. Amazing to be in the position we are. Timing is everything.

bornadog
18-09-2021, 10:00 PM
Going into the GF in slightly less than a week now, this is the summary of the injuries suffered in 2021:

Treloar, Young, Bonts (didn’t miss), Dunkley, Hunter, Martin, Crozier, Wood, Schache, Duryea (managed), McLean, Bruce, Butler, Weightman, Richards, Libba (managed), Marra, VDM, Scott, Hannan, Naughton, Williams, Garcia, Keath, Gardner, English, Jong

But. The only clearly best 22 not available is Bruce. We got more than our fair share of injuries. But we’ve had them at the right time as fate has it. Amazing to be in the position we are. Timing is everything.

Love to have seen Mclean make it as well.

bornadog
19-09-2021, 07:28 PM
What is happening here, with the leg brace

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_omEHfVEAQobEl?format=jpg&name=large

meenies
19-09-2021, 09:22 PM
Who has the leg brace?

bornadog
19-09-2021, 09:30 PM
Who has the leg brace?

Cavarra

Bulldog4life
20-09-2021, 09:48 AM
What is happening here, with the leg brace

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_omEHfVEAQobEl?format=jpg&name=large

Fashion statement of course.

Happy Days
20-09-2021, 10:15 AM
Libba wore runners which was awesome stuff.