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hujsh
23-04-2021, 11:15 PM
That might be English out for next week.

Hopefully he's alright

EasternWest
23-04-2021, 11:15 PM
Far out this is turning into a horror show.

comrade
23-04-2021, 11:15 PM
Naughton just Cordy’d English.

DOG GOD
23-04-2021, 11:16 PM
Hopefully not a fractured jaw

EasternWest
23-04-2021, 11:16 PM
That might be English out for next week

Might be is being optimistic.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
23-04-2021, 11:16 PM
Well so English is gone for next week.

Scraggers
23-04-2021, 11:16 PM
Wow ... English too

The Underdog
23-04-2021, 11:18 PM
It’s a.......MCSTEAL

hujsh
23-04-2021, 11:18 PM
Good pressure for the McNeil goal

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:18 PM
Gee we did well with McNeil in the rookie draft.

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:18 PM
Has McNeil saved him self

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:18 PM
It’s a.......MCSTEAL

Gold.

FrediKanoute
23-04-2021, 11:18 PM
The term Phyrric victory springs to mind......depth going to be tested.

Sweet/Lippa/Westy start warming up

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Libba LIbba Libba

FrediKanoute
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Anything Treloar can do Libba can tooooooo

hujsh
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
The term Phyrric victory springs to mind......depth going to be tested.

Sweet/Lippa/Westy start warming up

There was just a lot of discussion about how good our depth is looking (and how little it's been tested)

Scraggers
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Dunkley is back on ????

angelopetraglia
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Dunks again. Why put him back out there? Crazy.

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Why is Dunkley back on.

EasternWest
23-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Gee, put Dunkley on ice.

On cue, pops out again

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:21 PM
Dunks again. Why put him back out there? Crazy.

Agree could've done more damage now. He's probably gone for a while.

Stefcep
23-04-2021, 11:22 PM
Dunkley....

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
23-04-2021, 11:22 PM
Dunks shoulder a worry too

josie
23-04-2021, 11:22 PM
West’s opportunity.

angelopetraglia
23-04-2021, 11:23 PM
We have a lot of depth. It’s going to be tested.

DOG GOD
23-04-2021, 11:25 PM
Hmm will Dunkley miss 6-8 ?

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
23-04-2021, 11:25 PM
I don't care what anyone says. This is the game I wanted to see and we passed.

comrade
23-04-2021, 11:26 PM
We have a lot of depth. It’s going to be tested.

Yep, we were all gloating about our depth watching Footscray last night. Let’s see if we’re right.

EasternWest
23-04-2021, 11:27 PM
Remember when Stringer was the best pickup for us in his draft year?

FrediKanoute
23-04-2021, 11:27 PM
We have a lot of depth. It’s going to be tested.

Agree. 5 or 6 goal win, but 2 or 3 injuries. Hoping Dunks is ok and just a few weeks,

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:28 PM
Hmm will Dunkley miss 6-8 ?

I'd say at least. Depends on damage and if he needs surgery.
The fact is popped out so easily the second time is a fair indication that joint might need some work.

angelopetraglia
23-04-2021, 11:28 PM
Shaq? West? Sweet? Wallis? Lippa? Marra?

Will be interesting to see who comes in.

DOG GOD
23-04-2021, 11:29 PM
I'd say at least. Depends on damage and if he needs surgery.
The fact is popped out so easily the second time is a fair indication that joint might need some work.

That’s what I thought. Going to be severely missed.

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:31 PM
Dale a real weapon

EasternWest
23-04-2021, 11:32 PM
Didn't Naughton take the most contested marks ever against Richmond?

Stefcep
23-04-2021, 11:33 PM
Expensive win.

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:33 PM
Astronaught my word.

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:34 PM
Didn't Naughton take the most contested marks ever against Richmond?

No way the Tigers would let him do that.

Stefcep
23-04-2021, 11:34 PM
Didn't Naughton take the most contested marks ever against Richmond?

Yeah..Hodge: "Richmond ain't gonna let that happen".. Well knowing what Naughton can do and stopping him are two different things

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:35 PM
No way the Tigers would let him do that.

What an idiot BT, Naughton will be standing on their shoulders

DOG GOD
23-04-2021, 11:35 PM
Finished the game well with a big quarter. Just what was required. Unfortunate injuries.

Mantis
23-04-2021, 11:35 PM
Nice way to finish off the game... it won’t always be easy so nice we could grind it out and as a less mature team tired we kept going.

divvydan
23-04-2021, 11:35 PM
If Dunks needs a shoulder reconstruction, that's often 12+ weeks.

angelopetraglia
23-04-2021, 11:36 PM
Anyone noticing all the scratches all over over players? Very dirty team GWS.

DOG GOD
23-04-2021, 11:36 PM
Dale a real weapon

Taken JJ’s position in the team. Having a very consistent year so far.

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:36 PM
Macrae and Bont covered in scratches. Umps need to check the nails like juniors.

KT31
23-04-2021, 11:36 PM
Remember when Stringer was the best pickup for us in his draft year?

Never heard of him, was he any good?;)

hujsh
23-04-2021, 11:36 PM
Lots of scratches on the boys. About what you'd expect.

Nice to see Bobby Hill going over and giving English and Jong a pat, I say he belongs here with us.

AshMac
23-04-2021, 11:38 PM
Costly win. Nice to win by 40 points. They rattled us out of our usual form for this year.

Now we test our depth.

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:39 PM
Nice way to finish off the game... it won’t always be easy so nice we could grind it out and as a less mature team tired we kept going.

Nine goal last quarter and really we should have won by morre with Naughton missing 3 easy shots

angelopetraglia
23-04-2021, 11:39 PM
Six goals in three quarters.
Nine goals in last quarter.

It’s a funny game. They did well to curtail us, but we blew it apart in the last quarter.

KT31
23-04-2021, 11:39 PM
If Dunks needs a shoulder reconstruction, that's often 12+ weeks.

If it was a reco, doubt he would have been able to retake the field.

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:40 PM
Macrae and Bont covered in scratches. Umps need to check the nails like juniors.

They are a real dirty team

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:41 PM
One of the best moments (not the key) was when Treloar ran away from Ward. Great to have someone with leg speed

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
23-04-2021, 11:42 PM
Sad for English, Dunks and Jong, but this is the test you want. September is rarely won with the first choice 22.
Glad we've got Lipinski, West, Schache in great form.
You wanna be AFL players in a successful team? Then come on down, Richmond awaits!

Testekill
23-04-2021, 11:44 PM
Bank the points and move on. Dunks probably being out for the season means that it's Lipinski's or West's chance to shine.

Ghost Dog
23-04-2021, 11:45 PM
Sad for English, Dunks and Jong, but this is the test you want. September is rarely won with the first choice 22.
Glad we've got Lipinski, West, Schache in great form.
You wanna be AFL players in a successful team? Then come on down, Richmond awaits!

Some guy called Wallace is pretty handy too.
Jack Mac Legend! 39 touches

Scraggers
23-04-2021, 11:45 PM
Dogs by 27 (close game all night, pulling away in the last quarter)
First Goal JJ
BOG: English

I reckon I’ve nailed this

27 (plus GST) close game but we’ll pull away late
JJ first goal (of the last quarter)
English BOG ... or really KOC (Knocked Out Cold)

Pretty damn close I reckon

FrediKanoute
23-04-2021, 11:45 PM
Our centre square clearances and scoring from them is superb.

Good win in the end but at a cost

FrediKanoute
23-04-2021, 11:46 PM
Some guy called Wallace is pretty handy too.
Jack Mac Legend! 39 touches

Wallis....... :)

FrediKanoute
23-04-2021, 11:47 PM
Six goals in three quarters.
Nine goals in last quarter.

It’s a funny game. They did well to curtail us, but we blew it apart in the last quarter.

That probably makes it all the better. Good teams can whether the pressure storm and emerge stronger

josie
23-04-2021, 11:48 PM
Any chance Jamarra debuts? I think a Schache deserves a go but picking Jamarra would be very Bevo. West &/or Lippy steps up.

Do we think Bevo will go in with Martin as only ruck?

Great last qtr by Dogs.

merantau
23-04-2021, 11:51 PM
Well that was a very strange game and I am so glad we showed our class in the last - Jacko, Treloar, Libba, Bont, Astro, Dale, Keath etc

jazzadogs
23-04-2021, 11:52 PM
Great win to grind it out. Our midfield dominance is such a huge weapon, and even with Dunks out we bat so deep.

The injuries remind us how important it is to bank wins early in the season. To be 6-0 is HUGE.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
23-04-2021, 11:53 PM
Any chance Jamarra debuts? I think a Schache deserves a go but picking Jamarra would be very Bevo. West &/or Lippy steps up.

Do we think Bevo will go in with Martin as only ruck?

Great last qtr by Dogs.


I REALLY want to see JUH play...... but he is not ready. We're very much a team game, and that is like a tightly wound spring. No margin for error. And JUH's fitness is a problem. He played from behind a lot last night, and in the 4th looked gassed, with zero defensive pressure.
If English is out, Shache comes in. He didn't hit the scoreboard, but he did show fitness, strong hands, and an ability to defend.

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:53 PM
Fair scratches. Jack's head and neck. Marcus' left arm.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBmQst47/20210423-224600.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7Cq2FLkk)

https://i.postimg.cc/Jn7tCvXM/20210423-224640.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5HGfwPpR)

bornadog
23-04-2021, 11:53 PM
45 hitouts to GWS -27, now there is a change

G-Mo77
23-04-2021, 11:54 PM
If Dunks needs a shoulder reconstruction, that's often 12+ weeks.

Wait? Reconstruction? He came back on the ground? Surely we didn't send him out and risk further damage.

The Bulldogs Bite
23-04-2021, 11:54 PM
Absolutely gutted about Dunks.

Sedat
23-04-2021, 11:55 PM
Dunks had a shoulder reco (left shoulder) in 2017 in R7 and was back by R21. He can do it again this year.

Good way to win. We can't be Hollywood every week and will have to grind out the wins some weeks. GWS did a really good job stopping our D50 to F50 transition in the first 3 quarters, but we kept working hard and got the rewards as good teams do.

merantau
23-04-2021, 11:55 PM
Adam Treloar speaks so well when interviewed.

KT31
23-04-2021, 11:55 PM
[QUOTE=Grantysghost;725974]Fair scratches. Jack's head and neck. Marcus' left arm.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBmQst47/20210423-224600.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7Cq2FLkk)

https://i.postimg.cc/Jn7tCvXM/20210423-224640.jpg (https://postimg.cc/5HGfwPpR)[/QUOTE
Anti Dogs press will say nothing about it.

Grantysghost
23-04-2021, 11:56 PM
Dunks had a shoulder reco (left shoulder) in 2017 in R7 and was back by R21. He can do it again this year.

Yep let's hope he's back for the pointy end. Not sure why he went back on but it's done now.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
24-04-2021, 12:02 AM
Some guy called Wallace is pretty handy too.
Jack Mac Legend! 39 touches

Wallace??? Terry?? Or Wallis? :D
Your misspelling aside, you make a great point GD. Wally looked good at VFL in the mid..and he's the VC.... but he can't come into the forward line, we're good for lead up forwards....I can't see how then, he replaces Dunks in the midfield over Lipinski.
Good match committee meeting this week to be a fly on the wall!

angelopetraglia
24-04-2021, 12:04 AM
Six zip. Amazing how we adjust our expectations. Absolutely amazing start. On cloud nine. We are have given ourselves a realistic chance this season. So pumped for the footy at the moment. Can’t wait to get to the MCG on Friday night. Life’s good.

bornadog
24-04-2021, 12:07 AM
Dunks had a shoulder reco (left shoulder) in 2017 in R7 and was back by R21. He can do it again this year.

Good way to win. We can't be Hollywood every week and will have to grind out the wins some weeks. GWS did a really good job stopping our D50 to F50 transition in the first 3 quarters, but we kept working hard and got the rewards as good teams do.

I really love the way we locked the ball in our 50 in the 3rd quarter - should have had more reward, but it was impressive

jazzadogs
24-04-2021, 12:24 AM
I really love the way we locked the ball in our 50 in the 3rd quarter - should have had more reward, but it was impressive

I think that territory dominance went a long way to our big score in the last quarter. We ground them down and then pounced once they were fatigued (although I didn't expect that at the end of the third, I thought we were the ones looking gassed!)

GVGjr
24-04-2021, 01:03 AM
We really do need Twodogs to spend a couple of hours with Naughton and his goal kicking.
If he gets that sorted then we should hire him as a skills coach.

bornadog
24-04-2021, 01:05 AM
We really do need Twodogs to spend a couple of hours with Naughton and his goal kicking.
If he gets that sorted then we should hire him as a skills coach.

He has kicked 13.15 in 6 games - that is almost 5 shots a game

comrade
24-04-2021, 01:05 AM
We really do need Twodogs to spend a couple of hours with Naughton and his goal kicking.
If he gets that sorted then we should hire him as a skills coach.

The ball drop is a mess. Absolute lottery where the ball ends up.

The bulldog tragician
24-04-2021, 01:15 AM
The ball drop is a mess. Absolute lottery where the ball ends up.

But...his marking. Have we ever had a player grab the ball like that? The bullet pass from Bont which he caught so cleanly. The leaps over the packs. He was sensational in the air. I thought his kicking had improved lately but it just doesn’t do justice to his elite play in other areas.

It was a weird game. Flat and, well, boring in parts. Not helped by the lethargic and dopey commentating. How Brayshaw gets a gig is beyond me. To think Kelly Underwood got criticised for her voice. He is staccato, unfluent and bone lazy in his lack of knowledge and insight into what’s going on.

Poor Lin Jong, this game is cruel. I can’t imagine how he’s feeling tonight. He could so easily have been a premiership player but he has never had a scintilla of luck.

macca
24-04-2021, 02:10 AM
Is there a more dangerous player in the game than Greene? He looks like he's going to have impact any time he's near it.

I hate to say it but Green was involved in 5 of the first 6 goals. His probably one of the best one touch balance in the comp and looks so balanced whenever he goes near the ball. His a freakish in terms of how he reads the play unfold and his ability to get to the ball, grab it and execute. That 60 m first goal was phenomenal.

What was JJ role today ? He looked very rusty and just could not pick up the ball cleanly. His spot at risk. The way the backline is setup now and played, it did not suit his run and carry. Once GWS cut that off, we had to ping the ball accurately.

I feel for in Jong when he went down, he could have been anything except these bloody injuries. His injured his hammies a few times now. I hope he makes a fast recovery.

divvydan
24-04-2021, 02:35 AM
As much as he's easy to hate, Greene is an elite player and we would love to have someone of his ability and mindset in our side as a small/medium fwd. If anything, the captaincy has made him take another level, which is a sign of a great player.

G-Mo77
24-04-2021, 07:24 AM
Anyone listen to the Press Conference? The media actually knew what they were talking about and had interesting questions. Credit to who ever was there asking those.

comrade
24-04-2021, 07:30 AM
Anyone listen to the Press Conference? The media actually knew what they were talking about and had interesting questions. Credit to who ever was there asking those.

Pretty sure it was just Jude Bolton asking Bevo questions.

Ghost Dog
24-04-2021, 07:46 AM
Tim English injury was horrifying. Naughton Came right into his teammate and seemed a bit careless to me. It's fine to be able to launch yourself at a pack as he does but a bit of awareness helps.

merantau
24-04-2021, 07:58 AM
Tim English injury was horrifying. Naughton Came right into his teammate and seemed a bit careless to me. It's fine to be able to launch yourself at a pack as he does but a bit of awareness helps.
In the heat of play it's impossible for players to gainsay where others around them are going to put their bodies in the contest. I think it's a case of "See ball, get ball." And hope no one gets hurt by friendly fire.

Naughton is an exceptional pack mark - the best going around at the moment. Long may he launch.

Hotdog60
24-04-2021, 08:14 AM
Anyone listen to the Press Conference? The media actually knew what they were talking about and had interesting questions. Credit to who ever was there asking those.

As comrade said it was Bolton and also Del Santo was asking questions as well.

kruder
24-04-2021, 08:31 AM
So the first three quarters was very much bulldog footy from 17-20 very little reward for effort but this is a different team now. We were playing a young side who had parked the bus but once we broke the shackles we did what good teams do and put them away quickly.

I'm loving our centre bounce work and particularly loving when Trealor holds himself and follows the footy just outside the contest and then explodes away. He is definitely taking an extra step and finishing beatifuly atm, that last quarter goal is what you go to the footy to see.

G-Mo77
24-04-2021, 10:51 AM
As comrade said it was Bolton and also Del Santo was asking questions as well.

Pretty sure it was just Jude Bolton asking Bevo questions.

It was so much better than usual. I'm so used to hearing crap like this:

"Good win tonight Bevo, you've got to be happy with that?"
"What did you think of X incident?"
"What did you think of X decision"
Etc etc.

bulldogsthru&thru
24-04-2021, 10:53 AM
Did anyone else notice, apart from the evidence in scratches, how often Bont was getting scragged and held off the ball? It probably happens most weeks but I thought it was more noticeable last night.

Also the umpiring was really off last night. I know we benefited mostly from it, but I knew after half time when we had a large differential that the umpiring would change for the second half. Low and behold it did and we started to see some strange decisions in their favour. You can set your watch to them evening up the tally.

Ghost Dog
24-04-2021, 11:22 AM
Wallis....... :)

Thanks. Indicative of how long since I have been here and my current state of mind.

Happy Days
24-04-2021, 11:30 AM
I missed the game last night so catching up now. I see that coward Nick Haynes subbed himself out early out of fear of Bontempelli, interesting strategy.

comrade
24-04-2021, 11:36 AM
I was happy that Finlayson had a stinker. Hate that guy.

1eyedog
24-04-2021, 12:11 PM
I was happy that Finlayson had a stinker. Hate that guy.

Snake man.

Is there any update on Dunks or does anyone have any idea about this type of injury? What are the options can it be wrapped up and managed through a season or is he going to require surgery with a view to a later round return?

Hi absence cannot be understated. He's been pretty equal to our best player over the past 6 weeks and not having him out there is going to hurt us dearly.

Grantysghost
24-04-2021, 12:14 PM
Snake man.

Is there any update on Dunks or does anyone have any idea about this type of injury? What are the options can it be wrapped up and managed through a season or is he going to require surgery with a view to a later round return?

Hi absence cannot be understated. His has been pretty equal to our best player over the past 6 weeks and not having him out there is going to hurt us dearly.

You would expect he needs a reco.
So we have his last reco as a guide which was on the other shoulder in 2017. This is from his blog :

"Josh commenced the 2017 in good form, which even included playing some time in the Ruck. Unfortunately Josh suffered a shoulder injury in Round 4 requiring a full shoulder reconstruction. Josh was diligent in his recovery ensuring he didn't miss the rest of the season, which saw him return in Round 21 to play the remaining 3 games."

So it was a good 4 months last time, unfortunately have to expect the same as a worst case.

Agree it's going to hurt, he has driven the standard so far and been a real assistance to Treloar.

comrade
24-04-2021, 12:17 PM
You would expect he needs a reco.
So we have his last reco as a guide which was on the other shoulder in 2017. This is from his blog :

"Josh commenced the 2017 in good form, which even included playing some time in the Ruck. Unfortunately Josh suffered a shoulder injury in Round 4 requiring a full shoulder reconstruction. Josh was diligent in his recovery ensuring he didn't miss the rest of the season, which saw him return in Round 21 to play the remaining 3 games."

So it was a good 4 months last time, unfortunately have to expect the same as a worst case.

Agree it's going to hurt, he has driven the standard so far and been a real assistance to Treloar.

If we can remain top 4 and add Dunks before finals, would be a huge boost.

DOG GOD
24-04-2021, 12:24 PM
Will having Dunks out affect Treloar do you think? There’s an obvious bond there, and missing your BFF at the club, I hope Treloar doesn’t go into his shell.

Grantysghost
24-04-2021, 12:31 PM
Will having Dunks out affect Treloar do you think? There’s an obvious bond there, and missing your BFF at the club, I hope Treloar doesn’t go into his shell.

He and Smith might have to fill the gap of his loss with more inside time which will shift the balance a bit. Unless a Lipinski, West or even Garcia stand up.

comrade
24-04-2021, 12:31 PM
Will having Dunks out affect Treloar do you think? There’s an obvious bond there, and missing your BFF at the club, I hope Treloar doesn’t go into his shell.

Dunks will be there everyday, and Treloar will do what he can to make sure we’re playing finals for Dunks to return to.

AshMac
24-04-2021, 12:40 PM
Pretty sure it was just Jude Bolton asking Bevo questions.

Exactly what it was, though pretty sure not one question was asked just a bunch of leading sentences.

G-Mo77
24-04-2021, 02:21 PM
Exactly what it was, though pretty sure not one question was asked just a bunch of leading sentences.

I'm not going to listen to it again but they talked about 3rd man up being removed and new mark rules. I thought it was really interesting conversation. I usually get bored and turn them off but watched the whole thing.

G-Mo77
24-04-2021, 02:23 PM
I was happy that Finlayson had a stinker. Hate that guy.

Was it the shh sign he gave his home crowd in that final? That's what got me. Karma hit that smug prick between the eyes on GF day.

bornadog
24-04-2021, 02:31 PM
As much as he's easy to hate, Greene is an elite player and we would love to have someone of his ability and mindset in our side as a small/medium fwd. If anything, the captaincy has made him take another level, which is a sign of a great player.

But why does he have to do stupid nasty things. He just can't help himself. Loved the way Wood stood up to him at least twice and basically showed we aren't going to take that bullshit he dishes out.

bornadog
24-04-2021, 02:36 PM
Snake man.

Is there any update on Dunks or does anyone have any idea about this type of injury? What are the options can it be wrapped up and managed through a season or is he going to require surgery with a view to a later round return?

Hi absence cannot be understated. He's been pretty equal to our best player over the past 6 weeks and not having him out there is going to hurt us dearly.

Dunks had already planned to stay in Sydney to catchup with family, so he hasn't flown down. Due to have scans as are Jong and English, although seems no structural damage to English.

chef
24-04-2021, 02:38 PM
But why does he have to do stupid nasty things. He just can't help himself. Loved the way Wood stood up to him at least twice and basically showed we aren't going to take that bullshit he dishes out.

Hes just a prick, but an amazing football playing one.

bornadog
24-04-2021, 02:40 PM
I don't catch all of it, but SEN crunch time is usually a good analysis of the FRiday night game.

You can listen, skip etc the show here (https://player.whooshkaa.com/player/playlist/show/1981?visual=true&sharing=true&episode=819179)

Topdog
24-04-2021, 03:04 PM
I'm not going to listen to it again but they talked about 3rd man up being removed and new mark rules. I thought it was really interesting conversation. I usually get bored and turn them off but watched the whole thing.

Yeah just listened to it all and it was good. Channel 7 only showed about the first 5 minutes last night and it was all Jude Bolton but in the full 20 minute video Nicky Dal was asking the other questions.

Funnily enough ch7 spent 30 minutes talking about Nick asking questions and then cut the press conference short not showing any of his questions.

It's available at

https://www.afl.com.au/video/599927/bevo-on-dunkley-an-emotional-night-?videoId=599927&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1619187498001

bornadog
24-04-2021, 03:12 PM
Yeah just listened to it all and it was good. Channel 7 only showed about the first 5 minutes last night and it was all Jude Bolton but in the full 20 minute video Nicky Dal was asking the other questions.

Funnily enough ch7 spent 30 minutes talking about Nick asking questions and then cut the press conference short not showing any of his questions.

It's available at

https://www.afl.com.au/video/599927/bevo-on-dunkley-an-emotional-night-?videoId=599927&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1619187498001

That was Foxtel - Nick works for them

jeemak
24-04-2021, 03:25 PM
But why does he have to do stupid nasty things. He just can't help himself. Loved the way Wood stood up to him at least twice and basically showed we aren't going to take that bullshit he dishes out.

This is the thing that irks me. People like Dermie love Toby Greene, because he plays on the edge (which is code for he's a *!*!*!*!wit and is allowed to be because you know, AFL). However, Dermie doesn't like Bailey Smith because he reckons someone like Smith would get his head knocked off for sledging opponents (notwithstanding Dermie's weird attitude to people with mental illness and how he thinks they should behave).

So what does Dermie think would happen to someone like Greene who punches people like Caleb Daniel or gouges the eyes, pulls the hair and slams the head of prone people into the ground opportunistically? He'd have his jaw broken, that's what. Greene only does what he does because he knows there's no consequences yet people like Dermie love "the way he goes about it".

Sedat
24-04-2021, 03:37 PM
I was happy that Finlayson had a stinker. Hate that guy.
I get the pantomime Greene hate but Finlayson is a douche who stinks it up regularly in big games. I'm on a unity ticket with you on this dickhead.

Greene is a top 15 player in the competition and one of the most pure footballers going around. He suffers from the red mist but his talent and footy IQ are off the charts. He's actually being wasted in his prime the last couple of years in a pretty ordinary mid table team. I struggle to even dislike him now.

hujsh
24-04-2021, 03:42 PM
I get the pantomime Greene hate but Finlayson is a douche who stinks it up regularly in big games. I'm on a unity ticket with you on this dickhead.

Greene is a top 15 player in the the competition and one of the most pure footballers going around. He suffers from the red mist but his talent and footy IQ are off the charts. He's actually being wasted in his prime the last couple of years in a pretty ordinary mid table team. I struggle to even dislike him now.

Like when he crippled a bouncer

Sedat
24-04-2021, 03:48 PM
Like when he crippled a bouncer
Purely talking on the ground, and to be honest the last couple of years he has let his talent do the talking much moreso than his fists. I can admire pure football talent, especially when it is usually a forlorn task in a mediocre team.

Off the ground is a different story. Having said that, he not the lone ranger when it comes to unacceptable behaviour away from the club.

bornadog
24-04-2021, 03:51 PM
Purely talking on the ground, and to be honest the last couple of years he has let his talent do the talking much moreso than his fists. I can admire pure football talent, especially when it is usually a forlorn task in a mediocre team.

Off the ground is a different story. Having said that, he not the lone ranger when it comes to unacceptable behaviour away from the club.

Might be a good footballer but still an absolute dickhead. Laying on top of of The Bont and pressing his elbows into his neck, is just not on.

comrade
24-04-2021, 03:54 PM
Might be a good footballer but still an absolute dickhead. Laying on top of of The Bont and pressing his elbows into his neck, is just not on.

Woody was right in there to fly the flag. We'll never let 2019 repeat itself again.

jeemak
24-04-2021, 04:05 PM
I get the pantomime Greene hate but Finlayson is a douche who stinks it up regularly in big games. I'm on a unity ticket with you on this dickhead.

Greene is a top 15 player in the the competition and one of the most pure footballers going around. He suffers from the red mist but his talent and footy IQ are off the charts. He's actually being wasted in his prime the last couple of years in a pretty ordinary mid table team. I struggle to even dislike him now.

Call it for what it is, rather than red mist. He is a *!*!*!*!wit, who often does opportunistic dirty things to vulnerable people.

Agree with everything else about his talent, he is an out and out gun.

HOSE B ROMERO
24-04-2021, 05:59 PM
Agree with the standard of the press conference questions. A breath of fresh air. I enjoyed him on the 'Danny Boyd' podcast a couple of weeks ago.

HOSE B ROMERO
24-04-2021, 06:03 PM
Re the scratches, after the match the cameras focused on a couple of others who had them. Woody may have been one.

HOSE B ROMERO
24-04-2021, 06:06 PM
Whatever we think of Greene, it certainly adds a bit to the match build up when the opposition has a villain. Once upon a time i think every side had at least one.

Grantysghost
24-04-2021, 06:10 PM
Re the scratches, after the match the cameras focused on a couple of others who had them. Woody may have been one.

I'd be asking the Gi-ants for a please explain.

Eastdog
24-04-2021, 09:00 PM
Great hard fought win last night from our team. Our midfield work was great. We were excellent at the clearances. Libba such an important player in our team. The downside were the injuries. I feel for Lin Jong. No luck. Hopefully English and Dunkley will be ok.

Enjoyed a pub meal at the Victoria Hotel in Footscray today and chatted to the guy who served me about the Dogs start. Drove also in Braybrook a bit past the Skinner Reserve down Churchill Avenue, Duke Street and South Road which would be familiar to woofers who grew up in Braybrook.

EasternWest
24-04-2021, 09:06 PM
I get the pantomime Greene hate but Finlayson is a douche who stinks it up regularly in big games. I'm on a unity ticket with you on this dickhead.

Greene is a top 15 player in the competition and one of the most pure footballers going around. He suffers from the red mist but his talent and footy IQ are off the charts. He's actually being wasted in his prime the last couple of years in a pretty ordinary mid table team. I struggle to even dislike him now.

He's amazing. Don't think I'll ever be able to say I struggle to dislike him, because I'm a noble romanticist, but he is an out and out incredible player.

Twodogs
24-04-2021, 09:26 PM
Call it for what it is, rather than red mist. He is a *!*!*!*!wit, who often does opportunistic dirty things to vulnerable people.

Agree with everything else about his talent, he is an out and out gun.

No doubt it's the excellent upbringing his father gave him that leads to his wonderful attitude to life and his respect for his opponents.


https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2019-toby-greene-estranged-father-michael-greene-jailed-headbutt-police-officer/news-story/cb97f6bc2199270cfdb99c4c98671590

Happy Days
24-04-2021, 09:51 PM
Greene’s my favourite non-Dogs player, which was set in stone in that game where he punted Dahl in the face only to take a hanger and kick a goal like 30 seconds later. The sooner you all accept that there is no justice or fairness in the world the happier you’ll all be.

Dry Rot
24-04-2021, 10:50 PM
I get the pantomime Greene hate but Finlayson is a douche who stinks it up regularly in big games. I'm on a unity ticket with you on this dickhead.

These I loathe

These days I loathe Himmelberg more than Greene and Finlayson

Sedat
24-04-2021, 11:10 PM
These days I loathe Himmelberg more than Greene and Finlayson
He has been bog awful this season. Greene is almost their entire forward line at the moment, because they are getting nothing from Finlanyson and Himmelberg. Or Riccardi for that matter since he's come back in.

The bulldog tragician
24-04-2021, 11:52 PM
These days I loathe Himmelberg more than Greene and Finlayson

No need to limit ourselves or try and rank the loathesomeness. There’s a plethora of choice, someone to loathe for every taste but I admit Himmelberg’s punch of Bont over the boundary line, and Finlayson’s shush do entitle them to special kudos.

1eyedog
25-04-2021, 12:48 AM
No doubt it's the excellent upbringing his father gave him that leads to his wonderful attitude to life and his respect for his opponents.


https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-grand-final-2019-toby-greene-estranged-father-michael-greene-jailed-headbutt-police-officer/news-story/cb97f6bc2199270cfdb99c4c98671590

He's had a rough trot. I understand it and don't begrudge him at all. Absolute gun love watching him play.

Dry Rot
25-04-2021, 12:49 AM
I had the enormous pleasure of having oral surgery on Friday morning (wisdom tooth), and watching the first 3 quarters of the game reminded me of my time in the chair.

This team has a real resilience which has been missing in 2017 - 20.

And Treloar is an utter pleasure to watch.

DOG GOD
25-04-2021, 10:27 AM
I had the enormous pleasure of having oral surgery on Friday morning (wisdom tooth), and watching the first 3 quarters of the game reminded me of my time in the chair.

This team has a real resilience which has been missing in 2017 - 20.

And Treloar is an utter pleasure to watch.

Hope you’re feeling a bit better today Dry Rot.

Yep, Treloar is a massive pick up. The energy he brings is undeniably what our one paced midfield desperately needed.

Twodogs
25-04-2021, 01:20 PM
I had the enormous pleasure of having oral surgery on Friday morning (wisdom tooth), and watching the first 3 quarters of the game reminded me of my time in the chair.

This team has a real resilience which has been missing in 2017 - 20.

And Treloar is an utter pleasure to watch.

Hope hat you're bearing up OK mate, I know the special pleasure that is having a wisdom tooth removed is.

I was walking through the middle of the city the day I was on the way to have mine taken out. Being in a hurry I crossed the road against the pedestrian lights. A bloke in a cheap suit walked up and flashed a warrant card and said "my name is constable So-and-so from the traffic division. We are conducting a blitz against Jay walkers in the city today and I just observed you cross against the lights"

He got his notebook out and opened it up and as he did it he said "can I ask where you are in such a hurry to get too today?" I said I was running late for an appointment to have my wisdom teeth out at which point he shut his notebook, put it away and said "well in that case sir I will let you go on your way because your day is about to get a whole lot worse and I don't want to add to it.

He was dead right too.

Vred
25-04-2021, 02:24 PM
Hope hat you're bearing up OK mate, I know the special pleasure that is having a wisdom tooth removed is.

I was walking through the middle of the city the day I was on the way to have mine taken out. Being in a hurry I crossed the road against the pedestrian lights. A bloke in a cheap suit walked up and flashed a warrant card and said "my name is constable So-and-so from the traffic division. We are conducting a blitz against Jay walkers in the city today and I just observed you cross against the lights"

He got his notebook out and opened it up and as he did it he said "can I ask where you are in such a hurry to get too today?" I said I was running late for an appointment to have my wisdom teeth out at which point he shut his notebook, put it away and said "well in that case sir I will let you go on your way because your day is about to get a whole lot worse and I don't want to add to it.

He was dead right too.


hahaha *!*!*!*! that's gold

bornadog
25-04-2021, 03:55 PM
Apparently Jason McCartney approached the umpires at half time to complain about the umpiring. He is now under investigation.

Edit just saw post in other thread about the orange.

jeemak
25-04-2021, 07:56 PM
It was a better press conference than the usual dross that is served up.

Interesting question about the third man up, and Tom Boyd's opinion that it had a major impact on our fortunes in the years after 2016. Bevo basically agreed, noting that while we trained for it and used it to our benefit. He followed up by noting the major issue we had in the ensuing years was the huge changes in personnel that took place after the close of the 2017 season, which probably supports the theory (whatever we want to call the process of putting the right list together to compete again) that it was a huge factor in how we performed.

Further to Tom's comments that the third man up was an advantage we pushed, he also claimed the stationary man on the mark has benefitted our wish to play free flowing football. Bevo in this instance suggested that we trained really hard on how to defend it, which was also insightful.

azabob
25-04-2021, 09:21 PM
As comrade said it was Bolton and also Del Santo was asking questions as well.

Not sure the second person was Del santo. Not sure who, but didn’t sound like Del Santo.

westdog54
25-04-2021, 10:29 PM
Apparently Jason McCartney approached the umpires at half time to complain about the umpiring. He is now under investigation.

Edit just saw post in other thread about the orange.

Would any club other than GWS pull a stunt like that and think they'd get away with it?

comrade
26-04-2021, 09:02 PM
Coaches votes have come out:

8 Macrae
8 Treloar
4 Bont
4 Greene
3 Libba
2 Keath
1 Dunks

That means a coach gave Greene 4 and Bont 0 and vice versa. Pretty funny.

comrade
26-04-2021, 10:31 PM
AFL360: not a second spent on the Dogs
On The Couch: we get 10 seconds of Healy saying Bulldogs are underrated and 'Dailey Bale' is a gun.

bornadog
26-04-2021, 11:36 PM
AFL360: not a second spent on the Dogs
On The Couch: we get 10 seconds of Healy saying Bulldogs are underrated and 'Dailey Bale' is a gun.

I don't watch those shows anymore unless I know Bevo or someone is on. They are really pathetic.

Our numbers are way better than Melbourne which gives you an indicator how we are travelling



High Rankings







● Ranked 1st in Handballs Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2021&sby=1)




● Ranked 1st in Disposals Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2021&sby=2)




● Ranked 1st in Points Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2021&sby=11)




● Ranked 3rd in Inside 50s Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in Goal Assists Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in Clearances Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=TA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in least Opponent Handballs Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=1)




● Ranked 2nd in least Opponent Disposals Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=2)




● Ranked 2nd in least Opponent Points Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=11)




● Ranked 4th in least Opponent Tackles Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=6)




● Ranked 1st in least Opponent Inside 50s Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 3rd in least Opponent Goal Assists Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 3rd in least Opponent Clearances Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in least Opponent Clangers Per Game (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=OA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Handballs Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=1)




● Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Disposals Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=2)




● Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Points Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=11)




● Ranked 4th in Team to Opponent Tackles Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=6)




● Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Inside 50s Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Goal Assists Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=-1)




● Ranked 1st in Team to Opponent Clearances Per Game Diff. (https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/fts_team_rankings?type=DA&year=2021&sby=-1)

jeemak
26-04-2021, 11:42 PM
AFL360: not a second spent on the Dogs
On The Couch: we get 10 seconds of Healy saying Bulldogs are underrated and 'Dailey Bale' is a gun.

How many minutes did they spend on Carlton preforming to reasonable/ uninflated expectations?

Dry Rot
27-04-2021, 12:01 AM
Hope you’re feeling a bit better today Dry Rot.

Yep, Treloar is a massive pick up. The energy he brings is undeniably what our one paced midfield desperately needed.

Thanks DG. Feeling a bit better today.

Dry Rot
27-04-2021, 12:02 AM
Hope hat you're bearing up OK mate, I know the special pleasure that is having a wisdom tooth removed is.

I was walking through the middle of the city the day I was on the way to have mine taken out. Being in a hurry I crossed the road against the pedestrian lights. A bloke in a cheap suit walked up and flashed a warrant card and said "my name is constable So-and-so from the traffic division. We are conducting a blitz against Jay walkers in the city today and I just observed you cross against the lights"

He got his notebook out and opened it up and as he did it he said "can I ask where you are in such a hurry to get too today?" I said I was running late for an appointment to have my wisdom teeth out at which point he shut his notebook, put it away and said "well in that case sir I will let you go on your way because your day is about to get a whole lot worse and I don't want to add to it.

He was dead right too.

Thanks, great story.

I have been quoting that today.

Mantis
29-04-2021, 12:46 PM
It was a better press conference than the usual dross that is served up.

Interesting question about the third man up, and Tom Boyd's opinion that it had a major impact on our fortunes in the years after 2016. Bevo basically agreed, noting that while we trained for it and used it to our benefit. He followed up by noting the major issue we had in the ensuing years was the huge changes in personnel that took place after the close of the 2017 season, which probably supports the theory (whatever we want to call the process of putting the right list together to compete again) that it was a huge factor in how we performed.

Further to Tom's comments that the third man up was an advantage we pushed, he also claimed the stationary man on the mark has benefitted our wish to play free flowing football. Bevo in this instance suggested that we trained really hard on how to defend it, which was also insightful.

Been quite a bit of discussion on twitter regarding the press conference (length & quality). Besides Jude Bolton I believe lots of the questions were asked by Cody Atkinson (ABC) who has penned the following article which has lots of interesting points.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-29/western-bulldogs-charging-towards-afl-flag/100100592

The bulldog tragician
29-04-2021, 03:20 PM
What the hell!? An interesting insightful article which tells us about things we don’t know. Such a rarity...more please !

bornadog
29-04-2021, 05:36 PM
Been quite a bit of discussion on twitter regarding the press conference (length & quality). Besides Jude Bolton I believe lots of the questions were asked by Cody Atkinson (ABC) who has penned the following article which has lots of interesting points.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-29/western-bulldogs-charging-towards-afl-flag/100100592

Great article.

Also interesting to listen to Craig Jennings discuss how we defend and rely on the mids to help the defenders. If they don't get back fast enough, he says we are not good at defending one on one.

We certainly play a different brand of footy than any other team - the genius of Bevo