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bornadog
05-04-2021, 09:58 PM
link (https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/04/05/the-surprising-statistic-that-highlights-how-important-tom-liberatore-is/)


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The Western Bulldogs midfield was already stacked before the addition of Adam Treloar, but it has gone to a new level in 2021.

Marcus Bontempelli, Jack Macrae, Treloar, Josh Dunkley, Lachie Hunter and Bailey Smith receive a lot of plaudits for their work, and rightly so.

The somewhat unheralded member of the squad is Tom Liberatore, who is quietly averaging 26 disposals, nine clearances and eight score involvements so far this season.

David King has revealed that after three weeks of the season, Liberatore is actually ranked second in the competition for generating scores.

“I had a look at some random numbers. Guys that generate scores. There’s always a player that starts the chain,” King told SEN Breakfast.

“Usually it’s ruckmen because scores from stoppages are 30 per cent of scoring.

“So Nic Naitanui is clearly number one and most of that is at centre bounces logically.

“The player ranked second is Tom Liberatore. Now that surprised me, but that just shows the importance of this guy in this group.

“They don’t need Treloar to come in and win contested possessions because you don’t want to be butting heads with your teammates.

“I think the complimentary role they’ve got with this midfield is allowing Marcus Bontempelli to get forward of the ball, it’s allowing Jack Macrae to get forward of the ball and Treloar with his breakaway speed, it’s going to be hard to clamp.”

King was also full of praise for Treloar and how he has changed the shape of this Bulldogs midfield on the outside.

“They added Adam Treloar in and Treloar isn’t winning contested possessions, he’s not. He’s the first receiver at breakneck speed and his kicking is a lot better given he’s been told he’s a good player … he’s living a different version of himself right now,” the former Kangaroo said.

“What he’s done to this midfield is just unbelievable.

“They’re stacked in the midfield, we all know that, but the contested possession numbers are just crazy numbers. Back to 2016.

“Don’t undersell how tough they are (either).”

The Dogs obliterated North Melbourne by 128 points in Round 3 and now face a much tougher task up against Brisbane at Mars Stadium.

Vred
05-04-2021, 10:53 PM
I don't care that he can't kick a goal from 50 out, run quickly, or is considered ''slow'' - His one of our most valuable players and this stat/article shows why.

I fear for the day we don't have him in our midfield.

ratsmac
06-04-2021, 12:18 AM
I'm not surprised at all.

boydogs
06-04-2021, 12:20 AM
He's a combative heart and soul player that lifts the team beyond his own stats

Go_Dogs
06-04-2021, 08:59 AM
Inflated numbers after we spanked the Roos.

Let’s see how we shape up by mid season.

I agree though - Libba is unheralded in our midfield and has been very solid in his start to the year.

1eyedog
06-04-2021, 12:29 PM
Love it. Life is easier when the Dogs are winning.

When shit hits the fan I'm like F&%& it Dogs are on top of the ladder.

Testekill
06-04-2021, 09:27 PM
I'm surprised that a player that is a clearance king gets no interest during trade fortnight, he's be most teams best extractor.

Twodogs
06-04-2021, 11:22 PM
I'm surprised that a player that is a clearance king gets no interest during trade fortnight, he's be most teams best extractor.

I'm betting that he's laughed at more than one club's approach. They must have enquired and Libba would have said "I'm going nowhere but thanks for asking"

Mofra
07-04-2021, 09:34 AM
Best phone-box player in the competition. I'm convinced.

Happy Days
07-04-2021, 09:35 AM
Best phone-box player in the competition. I'm convinced.

No one’s even near him. The accuracy of his handballing in close is astonishing.

comrade
07-04-2021, 09:36 AM
I’ve heard he once got a brain scan done and they found a Sherrin in there instead.

Topdog
07-04-2021, 10:07 AM
Inflated numbers after we spanked the Roos.

Let’s see how we shape up by mid season.

I agree though - Libba is unheralded in our midfield and has been very solid in his start to the year.

Not really, Libba has always been Elite with Score involvements & Launches.

EasternWest
07-04-2021, 10:24 AM
I'm surprised that a player that is a clearance king gets no interest during trade fortnight, he's be most teams best extractor.

I doubt they'd bother seriously asking given his pedigree.

jeemak
07-04-2021, 10:41 PM
I thought the Bummers were sniffing around him a few years back..........

hujsh
07-04-2021, 11:42 PM
I thought the Bummers were sniffing around him a few years back..........

Around the time we traded Dahl I think. Only options were a performance heavy contact with us or maybe something with them IIRC. Very glad he stayed.

jeemak
07-04-2021, 11:48 PM
Around the time we traded Dahl I think. Only options were a performance heavy contact with us or maybe something with them IIRC. Very glad he stayed.

Thanks, I thought that was the case. Reckon the approach was a good one for all concerned.

bornadog
14-04-2021, 11:07 PM
Some Stats on Libba.

Leading the AFL with 34 total clearances and ranked 3rd for total score launches, but he’s doing all of this with just a 77.7% time on ground number which is relatively minuscule, and ranks only 18th at the Western Bulldogs



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey6an3BVcAIpySu?format=jpg&name=medium

jeemak
15-04-2021, 12:24 AM
That's pretty awesome, thanks for posting BAD.

Based on the TOG numbers it's looking like he's being managed really well. It's also a credit to Libba that he's clearly focusing on his fitness, he looks great and the fact that he is putting this level of influence together (and off one step at the end of the game he could kick the sealer from about fifty out) suggests he, the conditioning and coaching teams are aligned.

He may need to be managed throughout the second half of the year and take the odd break, but while he's doing what he's doing we should squeeze the lemon as much as we can to help us keep winning as many games as we can.

Topdog
15-04-2021, 02:24 PM
where is that from BAD? Really like that kind of stuff.

bornadog
15-04-2021, 02:28 PM
where is that from BAD? Really like that kind of stuff.

I will see if I can track down as I got it through twitter post

bornadog
15-04-2021, 02:33 PM
where is that from BAD? Really like that kind of stuff.

Tracked it down:

https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl

and https://twitter.com/StatsInsider/status/1382257325893820419

mjp
15-04-2021, 02:36 PM
Tracked it down:

https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl

and https://twitter.com/StatsInsider/status/1382257325893820419

Yeah - you just have to scroll through - AFL - Player DNA and you find it...

For example: https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/player-dna?p2=Jack%20Steele&p1=Tom%20Liberatore

That compares Liber and flavour of the month Jack Steele.

bornadog
15-04-2021, 02:42 PM
Yeah - you just have to scroll through - AFL - Player DNA and you find it...

For example: https://www.statsinsider.com.au/afl/player-dna?p2=Jack%20Steele&p1=Tom%20Liberatore

That compares Liber and flavour of the month Jack Steele.

I see you can make any comparison.

Adam Treloar compares pretty much with Libba, except Ads has more uncontested poss.

jazzadogs
15-04-2021, 11:23 PM
The Shot Charting section on Stats Insider is also a great resource. They do some good work on there (and based off Twitter, one of the guys involved @sgtbutane is a Dogs fan so it deserves our support!).