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Mofra
27-09-2021, 01:28 PM
... and tell me one of the first weird ideas that come to mind.

English as a Full-back?
It worked for Roughy, McEvoy has done it, if you're smart you can be slow and cut angles (Sam Collins, Sid). He's certainly got the reach.
It's no more unlikely than taking an inside mid who could miss targets under pressure (Boyd) and turned him into a gun HB who played as an unofficial captain down there.
Keath gets released to a second KPD role and gets to intercept more, something we sorely lacked this year.

What other crazy-Bevo ideas can we think of?

soupman
27-09-2021, 01:32 PM
Bailey Williams to the midfield.

Is composed in traffic and a good user under pressure (please ignore the Grand Final). Naturally finds the ball and is a strong body and not slow. Think he could work well as a more defensive minded mid to complement the others.

josie
27-09-2021, 01:36 PM
Bailey Williams to the midfield.

Is composed in traffic and a good user under pressure (please ignore the Grand Final). Naturally finds the ball and is a strong body and not slow. Think he could work well as a more defensive minded mid to complement the others.

If he can stick a tackle why not try it?

SquirrelGrip
27-09-2021, 01:38 PM
Lachie Hunter as a run-with mid-fielder/tagger. He can run all day.

SquirrelGrip
27-09-2021, 01:41 PM
Jamarra as that intercept marking backman we are talking about. Maybe like the run in defence for Schache, it will help build his intensity and defensive pressure. Of course it wouldn't be permanent but definitely a teaching opportunity for at least the pre-season.

1eyedog
27-09-2021, 01:45 PM
Bailey Williams to the midfield.

Is composed in traffic and a good user under pressure (please ignore the Grand Final). Naturally finds the ball and is a strong body and not slow. Think he could work well as a more defensive minded mid to complement the others.

Gets caught way too often second guessing his first decision.

Vandermeer as a +1 in the midfield. Multifunctional player who can burst away or create chaos defensively.
Daniel deep forward. His stoppage goal in Ballarat was the stuff of legends.

josie
27-09-2021, 01:49 PM
Roarke Smith in midfield defensive role or as a mid sized pressure forward.

whythelongface
27-09-2021, 02:15 PM
Bailey Williams to the midfield.

Is composed in traffic and a good user under pressure (please ignore the Grand Final). Naturally finds the ball and is a strong body and not slow. Think he could work well as a more defensive minded mid to complement the others.

I like idea but also think Bailey Dale would be good in the midfield. Has pace, can break tackles and of course disposes the ball (generally) well. Off HBF he has been fantastic but there are still one or two areas that concern me and one of those is his man on man defending. This wouldn’t be exposed as much in the midfield. We definitely need more pace in the midfield and he would complement a Libba, Dunks and the like.

The Bulldogs Bite
27-09-2021, 02:17 PM
Richards inside mid, Macrae to a wing.

macca
27-09-2021, 02:42 PM
Gardner as number me backman
Keith as the interceptor
VDM / Garcia burst midfield in short stints
Young as ruck . We need to try him in ONE position and play the whole season.
Richards on the hb

Fast track JUH in Hannan role . Sorry Hannan , love your story and achievement but in the big stage was found wanting
Garcia/scott/McNeil/Cody get them to be the small feds who crumb. I like scott and Garcia’s versatility they can play in the midfield
And good tacklers

Learn to make tackles stick .Big weights program to improve groups core and strength. Oliver is so strong how in world he can break those tackles ?
Trading :

Trade Dunks and convert into round 1 or 2x2 picks to get the best talent to plug those holes.

Melksham , is he gettable ? He could be our fwd/mid , maybe burst mid ?

Ask Grundy if he wants to play in another GF ? Somehow find a way to convince him or his management .His one of the missing pieces

Bring Mumford in as ruckcoach

Not popular suggestions , some are going to hate it .

I want to win another premeriship

Twodogs
27-09-2021, 09:01 PM
Bont to CHF. Bruce (when he's fit again) to defence.

I don't mind Mof's idea of moving English to FB, he's certainly got the skillset to play down back.

azabob
28-09-2021, 07:13 AM
Gardner as number me backman
Keith as the interceptor
VDM / Garcia burst midfield in short stints
Young as ruck . We need to try him in ONE position and play the whole season.
Richards on the hb

Fast track JUH in Hannan role . Sorry Hannan , love your story and achievement but in the big stage was found wanting
Garcia/scott/McNeil/Cody get them to be the small feds who crumb. I like scott and Garcia’s versatility they can play in the midfield
And good tacklers

Learn to make tackles stick .Big weights program to improve groups core and strength. Oliver is so strong how in world he can break those tackles ?
Trading :

Trade Dunks and convert into round 1 or 2x2 picks to get the best talent to plug those holes.

Melksham , is he gettable ? He could be our fwd/mid , maybe burst mid ?

Ask Grundy if he wants to play in another GF ? Somehow find a way to convince him or his management .His one of the missing pieces

Bring Mumford in as ruckcoach

Not popular suggestions , some are going to hate it .

I want to win another premeriship

A bit to unpack macca, but I don't mind the Melksham suggestion. He would also add a bit of hardness to our forwards and midfield.

On Dunkley Jeemak went down this route last year- so maybe pick up that discussion in jee's thread so he can get to 3,000 post count.

What do you see in Young to see him make it as a ruckman?

Agree on your commentary around Scott, Weightman, Garcia, McNeil and you can also add in VDM to that group.

What can we do with Ed Richards to get him into best 22? He is too talented not to be playing.

Sedat
28-09-2021, 10:37 AM
English on a wing. Channeling his inner Richo. That position requires elite running capacity much more than one-on-one competitiveness, which suits him to a tee.

Mofra
29-09-2021, 08:25 AM
English on a wing. Channeling his inner Richo. That position requires elite running capacity much more than one-on-one competitiveness, which suits him to a tee.
Also an ability to hold position and not get sucked into the contest, something a lot of elite mids can't help doing (Macrae).
I think other wings would burn him off but wasn't English trialled on a wing during some VFL games a while back?

GVGjr
29-09-2021, 08:33 AM
English on a wing. Channeling his inner Richo. That position requires elite running capacity much more than one-on-one competitiveness, which suits him to a tee.

Yep, nearly mentioned this one myself.
Bevo to the MC "I think they're onto us with English into the ruck so lets move him onto a wing and really shake this game up"

SonofScray
29-09-2021, 08:53 AM
The most bat shit shit crazy Bevo thing to do at this point, is to subvert expectations and tone stuff down, go in more traditional, more conservative.

boydogs
01-10-2021, 01:43 AM
Crozier to the midfield - quick, long kick, defensively minded

azabob
01-10-2021, 08:40 AM
Crozier to the midfield - quick, long kick, defensively minded

Not a bad suggestion.

1eyedog
01-10-2021, 09:00 AM
I don't like the idea of anyone going into the midfield who isn't an elite decision maker with sure hands who can stand up in a tackle. Crozier in there would definitely be bat shit crazy.

I wouldn't mind trialling Crozier forward in the mid sized defensive role JJ played at times.

macca
01-10-2021, 01:49 PM
I don't like the idea of anyone going into the midfield who isn't an elite decision maker with sure hands who can stand up in a tackle. Crozier in there would definitely be bat shit crazy.

I wouldn't mind trialling Crozier forward in the mid sized defensive role JJ played at times.

His got enough training as a FWD in the Freo days. Good idea , he would have a lot of knowledge with that.

What about the wing ? He has a long kick ( maybe not accurate) but not sure on his speed, if you compare him against a Ed.Langdon type.

1eyedog
01-10-2021, 01:54 PM
His got enough training as a FWD in the Freo days. Good idea , he would have a lot of knowledge with that.

What about the wing ? He has a long kick ( maybe not accurate) but not sure on his speed, if you compare him against a Ed.Langdon type.

Ideally I'd like a gut running smart player (Hunter) on one wing and a player who can run and carry on the other. I'd be concerned about Crozier's speed as well.

Mofra
01-10-2021, 02:10 PM
Crozier's one-wood is judging the ball in flight.
Put him in the middle and you take most of that away. I can't see our potential A graders getting enough midfield time (Dunks, Treloar and Baz) let alone shoe-horning Crozier in there.

Bailey Williams taking the occasional wing rotation, maybe. I still think he's predominantly a backman and battled well most games when he was asked to play tall as the 3rd.

Go_Dogs
01-10-2021, 04:21 PM
What I think we need to do is leverage our midfield depth. I want us to end each game with a dozen players each having spent 5 centre bounces in the square - let’s give oppositions different looks every time and use our depth as a real advantage. Let’s see some random combinations and different players in different roles in that centre bounce - and let’s improve our ability to react in the moment.

We can start with Bont, Treloar, Dunkley, then throw Libba, Daniel, Richards, then go with Macrae, Smith, Williams. Maybe get Roarke, Hunter, Dale, Weightman, VDM, McNeil, heck Naughton even, in there. Just make it unpredictable.

If we don’t land a ruck, then let’s play either Young or Sweet (if we keep them) as the main ruck. Some different looks / capabilities to mix it up with big Chilli. Melbourne got a big advantage there - a lot of more non traditional style bigs who can mark the ball, hunt it at ground level are having an impact. We need to develop that.

bornadog
01-10-2021, 04:45 PM
A Bevo Thing:
Naughton back to Full Back, just when you thought he was a star Full Forward

kruder
01-10-2021, 04:57 PM
Only around the edges would you train Bedendo in the backline this Preseason? Its hard to see him playing forward with the long-term talent we have down there.

GVGjr
01-10-2021, 05:22 PM
A Bevo Thing:
Naughton back to Full Back, just when you thought he was a star Full Forward

More likely Bevo gets a marking coach to work with Naughton rather than getting Twodogs to work with him on his set shot kicking :)

If we ever work out the kinks with his goal kicking we will get full reward for some of those brilliant marks.

bornadog
01-10-2021, 05:32 PM
Only around the edges would you train Bedendo in the backline this Preseason? Its hard to see him playing forward with the long-term talent we have down there.

Good suggestion

LostDog
01-10-2021, 08:25 PM
Good suggestion

Wood should be mentoring
Brett Montgomery in the making

WBFC4FFC
01-10-2021, 08:51 PM
A Bevo Thing:
Naughton back to Full Back, just when you thought he was a star Full Forward

Given we expect Jamarra and Darcy (who can play either end and in the middle) to develop well over the next couple of seasons, I would expect Naughton and Schache to play some games down back, depending on the match-ups.

SonofScray
02-10-2021, 12:57 PM
Remove all ruckmen from the list.

EasternWest
02-10-2021, 01:03 PM
Remove all ruckmen from the list.

All 40 of them?

Twodogs
02-10-2021, 06:47 PM
More likely Bevo gets a marking coach to work with Naughton rather than getting Twodogs to work with him on his set shot kicking :)

If we ever work out the kinks with his goal kicking we will get full reward for some of those brilliant marks.

You haven't seen me take a hanger?