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bornadog
05-03-2022, 05:42 PM
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Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge wants the football world to give Jamarra Ugle-Hagan space to develop as he weighs up whether to bring the 2020 first pick into the forward line for round one.

With Josh Bruce still recovering from a knee reconstruction and Tim English needed in the ruck, Beveridge says he is looking at other alternatives and can’t be sure Ugle-Hagan or father-son draftee Sam Darcy can help much this season as both are still developing.

It’s clear Aaron Naughton is the centre-piece of their forward line and will have the opposition defences tightly watching him, so others need to step up and that is what Beveridge is focused on after watching his side struggle to turn opportunities into goals during the preseason.

Beveridge said his forward line was not “efficient” in the last two preseason games including their six-point loss to Brisbane Lions on Friday night.

“We need Tim to play in the ruck. Marra is not quite ready and we probably need you all to ride that out and help him,” Beveridge said.

“It will take some time, young key forwards take time to get used to the cut and thrust of AFL footy.

“I’m not sure how much AFL footy he is going to play this year but we want to play him as much as possible. It takes time. Sam Darcy will take time as he hasn’t trained with the main group.

“With the injuries, it puts a bit of strain on our key posts so we might have to do it a bit differently for a while and we have to take up that challenge.

“Tonight the guys made a fist of the aerial game when the opposition was clearly a lot taller than us.”

Beveridge said he hadn’t had a chance to review the club’s VFL practice match against Werribee which saw Footscray lose by 41 points as it was also on Friday night.

“I haven’t tapped into how our Footscray side did against Werribee tonight but I’m hoping Marra [Ugle-Hagan] did well,” Beveridge said.

“There will be a couple of lads on the selection table.”

He added that some of the commentary on last year’s finals series lacked proper analysis as the team had to use English as a forward after Bruce was forced out for the season.

“Brucey’s situation has caused some headaches but I think some of the commentary and lack of analysis as to why Tim ended up out of the ruck last year isn’t ideal,” Beveridge said.

“If we had all done our homework, it was pretty plain to see we needed a key forward and we had to rob Peter to pay Paul.

“In the finals series, Tim was a 50-50 ruck-forward and he really helped us win the game [preliminary final] against Brisbane after it had gone south with the makeshift ruck situation.”

Zaine Cordy started as a forward against the Lions on Friday night but was needed in defence when Alex Keath went off after a painful kick to the shin, leaving a number of smaller forwards trying to help Naughton.

“The last two games we have had over 130 inside 50s, we just haven’t been efficient,” Beveridge said.

“Our quality of ball use and chemistry with our connection isn’t there. There are lads who are emerging who haven’t played a lot of footy at this level and they had a bit of the ball tonight.

“Cody [Weightman], Vanders [Laitham Vandermeer] and I thought JJ [Jason Johannisen] was pretty good. Naughts was a lone hand, our key position stocks have been strained at little bit with injuries so we have to do things a little differently.”

Grantysghost
05-03-2022, 07:48 PM
Anyone else find the line "our key position stocks are a bit thin" a bit hard to swallow on the eve of the FIRST game?

I'm not sure why they are so thin.

Bruce I get.

Keath and Gardner niggles really.

O'Brien a low grade hammy.

I'm just perplexed with our constant injury issues. We haven't even played a game in earnest and we are "thin" due to injury in a crucial area.

I'm sure someone will tell me it's luck, but we do seem to get a lot of the bad version.

/rant.

Grantysghost
05-03-2022, 07:49 PM
As for Jamarra he played 1 practise game and he wasn't great (AFL) why even mention him already.

He'll get there.

GVGjr
05-03-2022, 08:26 PM
Anyone else find the line "our key position stocks are a bit thin" a bit hard to swallow on the eve of the FIRST game?

I'm not sure why they are so thin.


It's just a couple of minor injuries so we should have the coverage.
We already knew Bruce wasn't going to be available for the majority of the season so no surprise there.

jeemak
05-03-2022, 08:30 PM
It's just Bevo playing the media. Our key position stocks are exactly as they were when we did Essendon, Brisbane and Port, and led Melbourne through the third quarter in four consecutive finals.

And if you go back to the presser, it was a reasonable comment that didn't really command any news space....but that's the plan I guess.

Grantysghost
05-03-2022, 08:56 PM
It's just a couple of minor injuries so we should have the coverage.
We already knew Bruce wasn't going to be available for the majority of the season so no surprise there.

That's why I didn't really understand the comment. What's the play?
It's not like he's fooling anyone.
Bevo mind games already? That only he understands xD

Grantysghost
05-03-2022, 08:58 PM
It's just Bevo playing the media. Our key position stocks are exactly as they were when we did Essendon, Brisbane and Port, and led Melbourne through the third quarter in four consecutive finals.

And if you go back to the presser, it was a reasonable comment that didn't really command any news space....but that's the plan I guess.

Luke needs to get his act together and stop acting like a teenager, I'm going to call the club!

:- My 85 yr old Mum re his handle bars!

jeemak
05-03-2022, 09:20 PM
That's why I didn't really understand the comment. What's the play?
It's not like he's fooling anyone.
Bevo mind games already? That only he understands xD

But if you look back it's probably as close to a carbon copy of what he was saying last year after we lost Bruce or weren't playing JUH anyway.

The big call out was the insight into why Lewie played in the ruck in a makeshift set up and English played forward. Whether you/ I or anyone agrees or otherwise this is probably where the major point of contention should be for the media.

But, being the idiots they are, they'll just continue to hammer the JUH, number one draft pick not getting a game bit and Bevo gave them enough information to look elsewhere knowing they won't.

Go_Dogs
06-03-2022, 01:18 PM
I’m concerned we still think JUH is so far off.

Talk all pre season was how hard he trained and how well he presented.

What has gone wrong here?

GVGjr
06-03-2022, 01:21 PM
I’m concerned we still think JUH is so far off.

Talk all pre season was how hard he trained and how well he presented.

What has gone wrong here?

I think he is physically a long way off even given his pre-season.
Some younger players take a lot of time to develop a senior football level type tank.
JUH looks like he's still a way off being able to play 16 to 18 senior games this season.

Go_Dogs
06-03-2022, 04:58 PM
I think he is physically a long way off even given his pre-season.
Some younger players take a lot of time to develop a senior football level type tank.
JUH looks like he's still a way off being able to play 16 to 18 senior games this season.

It’s disappointing. I suppose the good news is he’s working hard, but keeping him engaged and focussed while not playing senior footy is going to become a challenge pretty quickly.

Grantysghost
06-03-2022, 06:43 PM
But if you look back it's probably as close to a carbon copy of what he was saying last year after we lost Bruce or weren't playing JUH anyway.

The big call out was the insight into why Lewie played in the ruck in a makeshift set up and English played forward. Whether you/ I or anyone agrees or otherwise this is probably where the major point of contention should be for the media.

But, being the idiots they are, they'll just continue to hammer the JUH, number one draft pick not getting a game bit and Bevo gave them enough information to look elsewhere knowing they won't.

All he actually said was :

- He's not quite ready so be patient.
- We want him to play as many games as possible.
- Key position forwards take time.

Nothing ground breaking there. He did miss an entire developmental season.

Hotdog60
06-03-2022, 07:18 PM
All he actually said was :

- He's not quite ready so be patient.
- We want him to play as many games as possible.
- Key position forwards take time.

Nothing ground breaking there. He did miss an entire developmental season.

So reading between the lines is Bevo going to play him and he is going to be unproductive so cut him some slack.

Grantysghost
06-03-2022, 07:22 PM
So reading between the lines is Bevo going to play him and he is going to be unproductive so cut him some slack.

To be honest I think he will start in the VFL like last season until he shows some form.
But... It's Bevo!

GVGjr
06-03-2022, 07:47 PM
To be honest I think he will start in the VFL like last season until he shows some form.
But... It's Bevo!

We certainly didn't rush him last year. He will balance things up between giving him enough chances but making sure he performs when he gets those chances. He will probably come in for 3 week blocks depending on his form.

Dry Rot
07-03-2022, 12:15 AM
I recall JUH saying that he would like a run in the midfield.

Perhaps he may not end up being a KPF? He does not have and probably won't have the physique of Buddy.

jeemak
07-03-2022, 12:33 AM
I recall JUH saying that he would like a run in the midfield.

Perhaps he may not end up being a KPF? He does not have and probably won't have the physique of Buddy.

Young kids say all sorts of shit. He's not able to do the running required to be a KP player just yet, he's probably a lifetime away from being able to do the repeat effort stuff the mids do.

He'll be fine as a forward as long as he puts the work in.

Grantysghost
07-03-2022, 08:23 AM
Young kids say all sorts of shit. He's not able to do the running required to be a KP player just yet, he's probably a lifetime away from being able to do the repeat effort stuff the mids do.

He'll be fine as a forward as long as he puts the work in.

He's been working with Marcus and to my eyes anyway looks in very good shape so I believe he's doing the work which is good news.

Axe Man
07-03-2022, 09:37 AM
Luke needs to get his act together and stop acting like a teenager, I'm going to call the club!

:- My 85 yr old Mum re his handle bars!

She must be from a tough neighborhood if the teenagers have handle bar mustaches!

Grantysghost
07-03-2022, 09:50 AM
She must be from a tough neighborhood if the teenagers have handle bar mustaches!

Haha it's 85 yr old logic. Although I did know some kids who could probably grow one at 15.