WB Game Day V Geelong R12 2022

[Eastdog]

Margin:
First goal:
Best on ground:

[Eastdog]

Margin: Dogs by 12 points
First goal: Weightman
Best on ground: Treloar

[MrMahatma]

Dogs by 45
FG: Bont
BOG: Baz

[bornadog]

Dogs by 27
First Goal: Weightman
BOG: Smith

[Bulldog Joe]

The actual scores will make a difference but if we score 100 we need to win by 25 to go ahead on the ladder.

Dogs by 31
First Goal - Naughton
BOG - Bont/English

[Grantysghost]

We always have tight tussles with that cats.

Bearing that history in mind :

Dogs by 45
FG McNeil
BOG Treloar

[SquirrelGrip]

Dogs by 54
FG Naughty
BOG Baz

[DOG GOD]

We are playing Geel, not WC.
We always struggle.
Hawkins/Cameron normally like our backline.
Stewart will love our bombing.

Geel by 16 pts
1st goal- Weightman
Bog- macrae

[bornadog]

We are playing Geel, not WC.
We always struggle.

Not at Marvel. Last two there we have won

[kruder]

Question when can I upgrade my social club GA membership to a reserve seat against Geelong? Is it Tuesday morning?

[bornadog]

Question when can I upgrade my social club GA membership to a reserve seat against Geelong? Is it Tuesday morning?

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[DOG GOD]

Not at Marvel. Last two there we have won
Were they easy margins ?

For mine, our backline is shaky. Darling proved that. Kennedy is a dinosaur now so non existent. Hawkins and Cameron a completely different scenario.

[MrMahatma]

Were they easy margins ?

For mine, our backline is shaky. Darling proved that. Kennedy is a dinosaur now so non existent. Hawkins and Cameron a completely different scenario.

This is true but our mids should do the job and limit the supply.

Cats are good but we should win.

[boydogs]

WB by 1
First goal Dunkley
BOG Duryea

[Bulldog4life]

WB by 13
First goal Naughty
BOG Dunks

[The Bulldogs Bite]

WB by 19
FG Marra
BOG Baz

[bornadog]

Cats wary of Bulldogs’ midfield depth
Alexander Dabb


Chris Scott is wary of the Bulldogs’ midfield depth ahead of their clash at Marvel Stadium on Friday night, conceding match-ups in Geelong’s back half needed some extra attention.

“Their midfield is so deep that they need to have the excess midfielders [play forward]. But you just need to think about those flips, and what the make-up of their forward half is going to be.

“It’s a bit of a balance between being conscious of what they’re aware of, but also asking some questions of their forwards. Tom Stewart played well last week, Mitch Duncan has been really effective back there, our backline group of six or seven or eight players have been pretty solid.

“I don’t think we will do anything to destabilise the way our backs play, put it that way.”

Scott also said that the way the Bulldogs play at their Marvel Stadium home was something that needed to be acknowledged to execute a “situational attack”.

“I think it’s true of the Bulldogs generally, especially at Marvel because they have so much talent through their midfield, they back that talent in, and they try to use the ball. They’re not a bang-it-on-the-boot team, they try to use their numbers and play with speed,” he said.

“If [Aaron] Naughton gets really penetrating ball use with time and space he’s going to be a handful for any team defence, and then on the other side, we do think about trying to force them to defend with a bit of speed on the ball, but at that venue they’re pretty good at getting back.”

Rhys Stanley and Gary Rohan are likely to return for the Cats, who sit one win outside the top four.

[Hotdog60]

Cats wary of Bulldogs’ midfield depth
Alexander Dabb


Chris Scott is wary of the Bulldogs’ midfield depth ahead of their clash at Marvel Stadium on Friday night, conceding match-ups in Geelong’s back half needed some extra attention.

“Their midfield is so deep that they need to have the excess midfielders [play forward]. But you just need to think about those flips, and what the make-up of their forward half is going to be.

“It’s a bit of a balance between being conscious of what they’re aware of, but also asking some questions of their forwards. Tom Stewart played well last week, Mitch Duncan has been really effective back there, our backline group of six or seven or eight players have been pretty solid.

“I don’t think we will do anything to destabilise the way our backs play, put it that way.”

Scott also said that the way the Bulldogs play at their Marvel Stadium home was something that needed to be acknowledged to execute a “situational attack”.

“I think it’s true of the Bulldogs generally, especially at Marvel because they have so much talent through their midfield, they back that talent in, and they try to use the ball. They’re not a bang-it-on-the-boot team, they try to use their numbers and play with speed,” he said.

“If [Aaron] Naughton gets really penetrating ball use with time and space he’s going to be a handful for any team defence, and then on the other side, we do think about trying to force them to defend with a bit of speed on the ball, but at that venue they’re pretty good at getting back.”

Rhys Stanley and Gary Rohan are likely to return for the Cats, who sit one win outside the top four.

He hasn't been watching us play for a while :D

[MrMahatma]

Rohan in. Forgot he was still on a list after his huge finals series last year.

[Mantis]

He hasn't been watching us play for a while :D

Do you think we are? Especially from stoppages.

[Happy Days]

Rohan in. Forgot he was still on a list after his huge finals series last year.

I remember him absolutely flushing a set shot after the siren to beat some bunch of losers last year though.

Of all the cursed things to say.

[Eastdog]

I remember him absolutely flushing a set shot after the siren to beat some bunch of losers last year though.

Of all the cursed things to say.

That one hurt. We should have won that game. Played very well.

[MrMahatma]

I remember him absolutely flushing a set shot after the siren to beat some bunch of losers last year though.


I don't. :)

[Hotdog60]

Do you think we are? Especially from stoppages.

Not so much when we're in control but under pressure there seems to be a bit of lets make it someone's else's problem.
I've notice Libba in the back line who has great hands has just banged it on the boot to just get it out of there only to kick it to a wall of opposition players.
Hasn't been so much over the last few weeks but when we were struggling we had the long bomb into the forward line and hope Aaron gets it instead of choosing freer options.
My comment was tongue in cheek.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Bevo just now on news: "It remains to be seen, who makes the play".
That is the question.

[Mantis]

If we are serious about this season we need to win tonight… strong team in, our good players are in form. We need to deliver.

Go Dogs!

[MrMahatma]

If we are serious about this season we need to win tonight… strong team in, our good players are in form. We need to deliver.

Go Dogs!

Correct. And it’s a massive game!! I reckon we’re up for it.

[whythelongface]

Stating the obvious but our most important game of the season up to this point. Bring it on.

[azabob]

Mitch Cleary reporting

Jake Kolodjashnij out for Geelong due to COVID.
The Cats have three emergencies sitting out VFL - Narkle, Knevitt, Dahlhaus (Conway, Neale playing).
One will replace Kolodjashnij, one sub. But another late out a chance. Still a watch on Rhys Stanley’s ankle

[ratsmac]

Dogs by 23
First goal - Buku
BOG - Bazlenka

[Axe Man]

Mitch Cleary reporting

Jake Kolodjashnij out for Geelong due to COVID.
The Cats have three emergencies sitting out VFL - Narkle, Knevitt, Dahlhaus (Conway, Neale playing).
One will replace Kolodjashnij, one sub. But another late out a chance. Still a watch on Rhys Stanley’s ankle

According to the AFL site Toby Conway has come in for Kolodjashnij - first gamer 205cm ruckman. Surely that means Stanley isn't playing?

[azabob]

According to the AFL site Toby Conway has come in for Kolodjashnij - first gamer 205cm ruckman. Surely that means Stanley isn't playing?

Hopefully. Geelong could be tripling down on how many rucks they play!

[divvydan]

Conway played VFL, he won't be playing. He was brought into the squad for Kolo but since the 22 was already named, think the AFL site incorrectly brought him into 22.

[divvydan]

Dahlhaus replaced Kolo, Stanley plays.

Subcs: Wallis, Narkle.

[Testekill]

Wild to hear one of the Fox Footy guys calling English one of the dominant ruckmen in the league, I mean he's in great nick but jeez calling him dominant feels nice.

[Mantis]

Long bombs to a pack in our forwardline isn’t going to work.

[MrMahatma]

These forward entries are not going to get it done!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Wow. So it looks like we've decided to do the exact opposite of what our team plan would be right now.

[Mantis]

Getting opened up way too easily… awful start.

[chef]

Oh shit could get ugly already.

[comrade]

Let’s keep kicking it to Stewart and De Koning.

[jeemak]

Great stuff you idiots. Go hyper offencive after going down by two quick ones.

Can't help themselves.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Officially in trouble, like Ned Kelly.

[DOG GOD]

Need next goal otherwise this game is gone.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Need next goal otherwise this game is gone.

Eeeerŕrmmm. Maybe.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Need next goal otherwise this game is gone.
I said your Nostradamus was a scaredy Cat now I see your light.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Haha Naughton.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

We will overwhelm them.
If only we hsd the Loveshack.

[azabob]

Desperate for another marking target forward of the ball.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Bulu did well in the ruck there.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Bulu did well in the ruck there.

We've won 4 from 4 clearances from his ruck contests so far. Only positive so far.

[DOG GOD]

Coming out way too easy.

[Mantis]

How unlike us to miss our chances when they arise.

[DOG GOD]

Hawkins/Cameron…a bit different to darling/Kennedy for our defence.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Like hot knife through butter, Cameron goals. They control play.

[EasternWest]

So, like, if this is just going to be another game where we scrap and scrimp for a point and then they have a goal with three kicks then I might just switch off now.

[Mantis]

Alex Keath… WTF!

[azabob]

This is laughable.
Thanks 2022…

[chef]

*!*!*!*! I'm glad I didn't drive down tonight. What an embarrassing effort so far.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Destiny rules, we are like Ned Kelly at Glenrowan.

[DOG GOD]

All the % we gained last week we will lose this week ;)

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

OK. Well this is just about the most putrid thing I've ever seen.

[comrade]

I hate everything about this. No height across the ground, defensive match ups all wrong, forward line bereft of actual forward talent. Garbage.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

How good is Cameron?
Too good for us tonight.

[jeemak]

How can they serve this shit up?

Embarrassing.

[whythelongface]

Absolutely terrible

[azabob]

How can they serve this shit up?

Embarrassing.

And you want to become a member twice!

[comrade]

Love that long loopy kick to West one on one.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Lib Lib not LNP LIBBA!

[jeemak]

McNeil you are an idiot.

[DOG GOD]

Love that long loopy kick to West one on one.
They must think we have a Hawkins in the goal square that can outbody his opponent…

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Why did McNeil go in with the hip?

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

How was that not a free to Bailey Dale?

[G-Mo77]

Well, surprise, surprise.

[jeemak]

Gardner with multiple missed handballs.

[comrade]

Putrid.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Geelong are well drilled, very professional.

[Mantis]

We’re *!*!*!*!ing awful when they have the ball… no intent to get a man. Just letting them play the game on their terms.

Seen this before Bevo and it’s *!*!*!*!ing shit.

[comrade]

Geelong are well drilled, very professional.

Great structure.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Tell me more how he's a good tactical coach....

Geelong must laugh at us

[jeemak]

The kicking has been disgusting.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I will have dreams of walking in public naked after that quarter. Sheesh we look like having a bigger loss than scumbag.

[macca]

Great structure.

Their forward line is co-ordinated and know how to lead our and create space
Cameron and Hawkins are 2 best forwards in the comp

[dog town]

How many senior players have ducked their head or fumbled? Absolutely no hope with that happening. You can see when the game gets into open field we are too quick for them but it can’t happen when we don’t execute.

[DOG GOD]

I’d like to know what our game plan is tonight.. no defensive effort from the mids and Geelong players everywhere taking the ball from D50 to F50 in 2 kicks. Unbelievable…but I’m not at all surprised.
Is that Geel are playing well, or our mindset is still in WA ?

[jeemak]

How many senior players have ducked their head or fumbled? Absolutely no hope with that happening. You can see when the game gets into open field we are too quick for them but it can’t happen when we don’t execute.

I would love for our playing group to be consistent in their effort and attack. Either be shit like we are tonight, or good. Pick one for goodness sake!

[KT31]

Thank @#$% we didn't play the]he Cats in the 2016 prelim, they are so much in the our heads that they would thumped us.

[whythelongface]

Game over already. There is no way we will peg this back. They just waltz through the middle

[KT31]

Well, surprise, surprise.

Cant blame the umpires we are dishing up tripe.

[dog town]

Tell me more how he's a good tactical coach....

Geelong must laugh at us

On track to lose contested possession by 40 and we have had multiple players drop marks ducking their head or fumble simple ground balls. Last thing we should be concerned about is the coaching.

[G-Mo77]

Game over already. There is no way we will peg this back. They just waltz through the middle

You can early night, think of the positives.

I've got a 5am start tomorrow so was worried about missing some of this game, I'll bed asleep by halftime.

[DOG GOD]

We look to have no system at all. Wondering around on treadmills.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

I’d like to know what our game plan is tonight.. no defensive effort from the mids and Geelong players everywhere taking the ball from D50 to F50 in 2 kicks. Unbelievable…but I’m not at all surprised.
Is that Geel are playing well, or our mindset is still in WA ?

How could anyone discern what game plan the players are trying to execute? It could best the best game plan in the world...but we'd never know, because the collective 22 out there couldn't execute an Auskick drill based on that Qtr.

[jeemak]

On track to lose contested possession by 40 and we have had multiple players drop marks ducking their head or fumble simple ground balls. Last thing we should be concerned about is the coaching.

Agreed.

I don't think we've ever had a more dishonest group of players in my years watching the Dogs. This group cannot be trusted.

[G-Mo77]

Cant blame the umpires we are dishing up tripe.

Not blaming umps? Not sure how you got that KT.

Just not surprised by this. It's laughable how predictable we are.

[DOG GOD]

Dunkley, macrae and smith have 8 disposals between them.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

God intervenes or she better.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Yes we have been hit by an asteroid.

[DOG GOD]

If we are not struggling enough, we just gift them one. F me.

[Mantis]

Could Bailey Dale turn over another one please?

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Our best team ever pissweak tonight.
We are Cats' bunnies.

[comrade]

I’ve got as much chance of taking a mark inside 50 sitting on my *!*!*!*!ing couch as our ‘forwards’ do.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

God intervenes.
God is Nature.

[DOG GOD]

Why long bomb it..why?

Bont shows how it’s done. Get a look from 50 and kick it over their heads..

Either drill it along the carpet or run thru 50 and kick it over.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Buku to you.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Ump missed one before called same thing for Cats.
We will overwhelm them at some stage.

[comrade]

McNeil has been woeful tonight. Butchering every involvement.

[DOG GOD]

Got all the momentum and can’t score as usual.

[DOG GOD]

Much needed goal. Need to get another before HT

[KT31]

Not blaming umps? Not sure how you got that KT.

Just not surprised by this. It's laughable how predictable we are.
Apologies- G- MO, I tied your quote in with previous ones.

[KT31]

Ump missed one before called same thing for Cats.
We will overwhelm them at some stage.

Hope so, they have been overwhelming us since we left the Western Oval.

[G-Mo77]

Great quarter, 1 more would have made it a little more interesting. So glad Hawkins missed.

That was all Libba in that revival.

[jeemak]

There's clearly a different interpretation for holding the ball and incorrect disposal between the teams.

Amazing how we don't look inept when we decide to apply some pressure, put our heads over it and decide to compete with some ferocity.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

So we drop Sweet to play Khamis as a sole second ruck who goes from ruck to bench?

Brilliant.

I get our endeavour is just a mile off and we've been borderline soft, but we've been comprehensively out coached too.

[DOG GOD]

We owned the last 10 mins but as usual couldn’t score. We are just turning the ball over too easily, but at least that quarter we seemed to be working harder. Macrae got more involved and I thought West was good overall. Libba good too. Need more from Dunkley, Treloar, Bont and smith. If we keep bombing we won’t win. Simple.

[G-Mo77]

So we drop Sweet to play Khamis as a sole second ruck who goes from ruck to bench?

Brilliant.

I get our endeavour is just a mile off and we've been borderline soft, but we've been comprehensively out coached too.

Boggles the mind doesn't it.

[DOG GOD]

So we drop Sweet to play Khamis as a sole second ruck who goes from ruck to bench?

Brilliant.

I get our endeavour is just a mile off and we've been borderline soft, but we've been comprehensively out coached too.

We go with English/Khamis because our MC didn’t rate Geel’s rucks. That’s arrogance. Instead of weakening our team, play to our strengths, and 2 proper rucks is playing to our strengths. What has Khamis done up fwd so far that Sweet wouldn’t have done ?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Boggles the mind doesn't it.

It's not costing us the game but it's ironic when English is struggling and looks tired.

[Jeanette54]

Libba as usual, hard at it, and inspiring the comeback.

[dog town]

Naughton needs to find some new tricks, well behind the other emerging key forwards at this stage. Both he and Weightman need to find some different methods to impact, very easy to play against at the moment for good defenders.

[comrade]

We go with English/Khamis because our MC didn’t rate Geel’s rucks. That’s arrogance. Instead of weakening our team, play to our strengths, and 2 proper rucks is playing to our strengths. What has Khamis done up fwd so far that Sweet wouldn’t have done ?

Sweet would have only put it into the 2nd row rather than the 3rd row when the ball fell in his lap.

[merantau]

Much better effort that quarter. We need to stop turning it over. Libba has been immense. We are in the game now and can win it from here if we show the same intensity and take our chances.

[comrade]

Naughton needs to find some new tricks, well behind the other emerging key forwards at this stage. Both he and Weightman need to find some different methods to impact, very easy to play against at the moment for good defenders.

His lack of natural forward nous really shows out when he’s up against another good aerialist.

[whythelongface]

We go with English/Khamis because our MC didn’t rate Geel’s rucks. That’s arrogance. Instead of weakening our team, play to our strengths, and 2 proper rucks is playing to our strengths. What has Khamis done up fwd so far that Sweet wouldn’t have done ?

Sweet wouldn’t make a difference. Better off going with Schache

[BornInDroopSt'54]

You can early night, think of the positives.

I've got a 5am start tomorrow so was worried about missing some of this game, I'll bed asleep by halftime.

Sweet dreams.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Libba as usual, hard at it, and inspiring the comeback.

Yes he got us going.

I’ve actually like Buku in the ruck. I love Sweet but he buku could grow into this second ruck role. We just need the 1/2 backs to hit targets and e will cut them to pieces.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Yes he got us going.

I’ve actually like Buku in the ruck. I love Sweet but he buku could grow into this second ruck role. We just need the 1/2 backs to hit targets and e will cut them to pieces.

Yep Buku's ruck role tonight isn't an issue.We won the clear majority of clearances when Khamis was in the ruck.

[dog town]

They have had 4 scoring shots from us letting the ball get over the back at kick ins, unforgivable stuff. Punch it forward or at least neutralise it or get out marked and stand them up.

[Hotdog60]

I would swap Naughton and O'Brian

[BornInDroopSt'54]

The giraffe could not hook it enough.

[DOG GOD]

Wasteful AGAIN

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Shaggy head had poor belief with that shot.

[Mantis]

What other small forward would miss that goal? Should eat them for breakfast.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Put Dunkley on Cameron.

[comrade]

Not good enough Westy. Two atrocious disposals in a row.

[Mantis]

West needs to get those loose disposals out of his game if he’s going to make a spot his own.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Slack by Treloar to q? ump.

[DOG GOD]

Great stuff Libba. Bog for mine

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Lib, lib, not LNP LIBBA!

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Wait Man.

[DOG GOD]

Back in it guys…can we keep the momentum going, and score with that momentum.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Madness rules.
Dunkley to Cameroon pls.

[comrade]

That kick from Bazlenka is why I’ll always have a few questions about him.

[Mantis]

Is Bailey Smith any chance at all to kick the ball to one of his teammates?

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Westie more west than west.

[DOG GOD]

F sake

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I need help to forgive Mc fff Comb.

[comrade]

McComb has done seem decent things but you can’t miss that and deflate the side after such a good play.

[DOG GOD]

Wtf smith ?

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Bailey gone.
Make us win Bailey f your instagram.
I know you are Cuchulainne and I accept he would do the same to his detriment.

[whythelongface]

Well done to get back into the name. Not sure how we can get enough goals without conceding any.

[jeemak]

Toohey went the head butt first and then carried on like an absolute pussy after getting some back.

[whythelongface]

Bailey gone.
Make us win Bailet f your instagram.

Yep he will get a few weeks for that. Silly

[GVGjr]

Well done to get back into the name. Not sure how we can get enough goals without conceding any.

Next goal would be very handy for us.

[comrade]

McComb kicks that and we just about break them.

[josie]

Appalling one sided umpiring - that should have been 50m penalty to Richards. Let’s hope the doggies can overcome the cats and the umps in Q4.

[whythelongface]

Toohey went the head butt first and then carried on like an absolute pussy after getting some back.

Don’t think Tuohy connected though. Think Bailey is in trouble

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Pretty dumb by Smith really. He will get two weeks and we loose momentum

[whythelongface]

Appalling one sided umpiring - that should have been 50m penalty to Richards. Let’s hope the doggies can overcome the cats and the umps in Q4.

Why wasn’t it downfield? I don’t understand

[Mantis]

We bust our ass for 2 qtrs and gift them an easy one… *!*!*!*!!

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I need medication after that start.

[comrade]

Trap the *!*!*!*!ing thing Keath. Does that all the time.

[comrade]

Dale never miss.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I will get a tatt of BD.

[G-Mo77]

We've got these arseholes on the ropes, have we got enough in our tank to take them out.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Libba is in overdrive. Can he stay this angry every game from now, please.

[Mantis]

That was so dumb by Treloar.

Ridiculously dumb!

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Put Dunkley on Cameroon pretty please.

[DOG GOD]

Stupidity by Treloar

[Flamethrower]

Idiot play Trelor

[comrade]

Idiotic.

[comrade]

Tell me structure doesn’t matter when you have West as our deepest forward with 3 on him.

[Mantis]

That was a soft one… take it though.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Giraffe adjusts his hook.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Enough time.

[KT31]

Next ten minutes is more season defining.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Dunkley on Cameroon goddam.

[chef]

Damn, what an arsey pass

[BornInDroopSt'54]

6 minutes.
Gone, gone, gone like yesterday.
Find peace elsewhere Footscray diehards.

[Mantis]

Cameron’s putting on a clinic.

[EasternWest]

A more predictable denouement for a Dogs - Cats game I can't think of.

[DOG GOD]

You simply can’t give a team a 6 goal lead, and not make everything of your opportunities when you get the momentum .

[chef]

Brave fightback but that first quarter was the killer.

[comrade]

A nice little bed shitting to end the game sums up 2022.

[G-Mo77]

Hurts more that it was this piece of absolute shit beating is off his own boot.

[dog town]

Please bont stop trying to kick the eyes out of it every time. Such an overrated user of the ball at times, so many times he has ignored open runners and then butchered the kick.

[whythelongface]

You simply can’t give a team a 6 goal lead, and not make everything of your opportunities when you get the momentum .

Exactly. Sucks all your energy trying to come back from that.

[Mantis]

When you give a good side a 7 goal start you need everything to go your way… and it didn’t.

Midfield were awful in the first qtr, our backline struggles when exposed and our bottom 6-8 tonight we’re extremely poor… as expected.

[comrade]

Scott continues to absolutely own Bevo.

We should never have lost this game, especially with Stewart missing most of it.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Good response after first qtr but on the back blocks thereafter sionara.

[whythelongface]

I just don’t understand how we don’t turn up to play in such a big game. How do we just let them roll all over us in that 1st qtr

[jeemak]

Paying for a complete and utter lack of professionalism and commitment at the commencement of the game. Soft, no concentration, and not enough respect for the football.

Pathetic from a supposed professional team.

[whythelongface]

Scott continues to absolutely own Bevo.

We should never have lost this game, especially with Stewart missing most of it.

Agree. Easily our best chance to beat this mob.

[The bulldog tragician]

We’ve seen this movie before. Again and again.

[The Underdog]

You probably need at least one forward to win their matchup to win a game.

[jeemak]

My dog is growling at the TV with Jeremy Cameron being interviewed.....it's on silent.

I hate Cameron, he's a piece of shit......but we'll always look back on the 2016 preliminary final with fondness I guess.

[KT31]

Paying for a complete and utter lack of professionalism and commitment at the commencement of the game. Soft, no concentration, and not enough respect for the football.

Pathetic from a supposed professional team.
Time and time again, season after season.
No top four this year a review is needed.

[KT31]

Somehow I hate him more in Cats colours than the plastics.

[GVGjr]

That one stings, I really can't handle losses to Geelong.

[The Underdog]

Jeremy Cameron- “the Bulldogs are a very good side, everyone knows they’re a very good side”…record scratch “they weren’t a very good side”

[kruder]

We have seen that episode before classic dogs game against the cats.

Get going late, wasteful going forward and yep you guessed it one tall short as usual.

So disappointing.

[Grantysghost]

Scott continues to absolutely own Bevo.

We should never have lost this game, especially with Stewart missing most of it.

Geelong so drilled so committed so well structured. Fully deserved it.
Scott is some coach.
Libba is the heart and soul of this side what a get on my back effort; but we really miss 2021 Bontempelli he takes us from good to very good.

At the game it was clear the Cats had us in the air very very early.

[KT31]

Scott continues to absolutely own Bevo.

We should never have lost this game, especially with Stewart missing most of it.

Actually since 2016 most Coaches with decent sides have.

[G-Mo77]

Just not good enough, I don't think we're a finals team and if we do squeeze in there I doubt we'll trouble to many.

It's just frustrating, we have to work so hard to score, our forward setup is a debacle. The sealer Cameron kicked summed it up. Clear forward line, forward playing in front, miss kick, chest mark. If that was our end we'd have players everywhere standing in the way.

I'll sound like a broken record but selections, we need another big in there to help Naughton. Stewart stays in we don't get close in this one. There is no one to drag these guys out of the way.

[AshMac]

Failing to capitalise after the cornerstone of their defence went off in the first quarter is so frustrating.

In patches we were brilliant, most of the time we failed to do anything with the ball.

We have zero F50 pressure - the ease they rebounded out hurt.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

I've had enough of our coaching group.

The fact we came out as limp as we did is on them. Another non top 4 finish.

Our defensive set up was pathetic - we allowed open lanes for Cameron to walk into.

We play Khamis as a second ruck/bench, while Naughton was getting owned and we never looked capable of taking a mark. If that was our plan, why didn't we just play Sweet?

This is garbage from a list supposed to be contending and the buck should be stopping with our coaching group.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Players have a lot to answer for what they turned up in that first quarter.

That was some certified, diamond encrusted, rolled in gold flakes, steaming pile of horse crap they put out during that opening quarter.

Kudo's to those more astute than I for being able to judge our game plan to be missing. I couldn't see enough players execute the most elementary skills or decisions to be able to pass any judgement on the game plan.
I'm pretty confident the planning didn't say let's bomb it and kick to Stewart and De Koning's advantage. Or to turn the ball over inexplicably in a horrible position to defend.

Glad they fought it out, cause I thought we were gonna lose by triple digits by the end of the 1st Qtr. But, whatever, at the end of the day it's just another important test, that we failed, yet again, to rise up to.
Interesting times.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

At the game it was clear the Cats had us in the air very very early.

This happens literally every time we play them.

Surely our coaching group is held accountable at some point?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Can we move on from borderline state level players in McComb and McNeil?

I'd much rather invest time into Jones and Bedendo moving forward.

[The bulldog tragician]

Just not good enough, I don't think we're a finals team and if we do squeeze in there I doubt we'll trouble to many.

It's just frustrating, we have to work so hard to score, our forward setup is a debacle. The sealer Cameron kicked summed it up. Clear forward line, forward playing in front, miss kick, chest mark. If that was our end we'd have players everywhere standing in the way.

I'll sound like a broken record but selections, we need another big in there to help Naughton. Stewart stays in we don't get close in this one. There is no one to drag these guys out of the way.

They refuse to play Schache in that role. Instead we had Cody at his worst..unrealistic flying and staging. McNeil..invisible. McComb..battler, effort unquestioned.

Our skills and decision making at key moments were sub par.

[G-Mo77]

Can we move on from borderline state level players in McComb and McNeil?

I'd much rather invest time into Jones and Bedendo moving forward.

Gardener down back as well. I honestly think they zoned off him so he was open to take possession and kick. He's come a long way but he's just an average player. Like you said, we've got too many like that and we're found out in times like this.

[merantau]

Well that was a lost opportunity. We butchered the ball so many times by foot. You can't we games when you do that.
They were cleaner in the last for sure.

That being said it seemed to me that every kick of ours under pressure went to an opponent and every one of theirs went to a team mate.

I thought the umpiring was poor - really poor. Why the high tackle to Richards was not paid down the ground , I'll never know.

Reality is we can play veey well and we can play very poorly in the same game. The problem is that when we are playing very well we don't nail our chances. Eg, opening minutes of the second half,English misses with a regulation snap, then Weightman hits the post. The McComb miss was a shocker.

We had a few passengers tonight too and you can't win big games with so many negatives coming together. We are going to have to beat them down at Geelong. That will be satisfying and I believe we can do it - we simply have to.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

I've had enough of our coaching group.

The fact we came out as limp as we did is on them. Another non top 4 finish.

Our defensive set up was pathetic - we allowed open lanes for Cameron to walk into.

We play Khamis as a second ruck/bench, while Naughton was getting owned and we never looked capable of taking a mark. If that was our plan, why didn't we just play Sweet?

This is garbage from a list supposed to be contending and the buck should be stopping with our coaching group.

My mate has permanent leg injury and says 'lame' not 'limp', no erectile prob's. Naughton was owned by DeKonig, didn't his dad play for Scray?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

The standing off the mark is hot garbage as a tactic too. We guard space that isn't dangerous, invite the opposition to take territory and for what purpose? To cancel their run from behind and releasing of a handball? We give sides an extra 15m - they don't need run from behind when you hand it to them on a platter.

Might confuse sides who can't use the ball like North and West Coast, but when you give good sides and good players time AND space with the ball you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Imagine if sides stepped off and away from Dale and Daniel

No wonder we struggle to lock the ball in our forward half.

[bornadog]

No wonder we struggle to lock the ball in our forward half.

The ball was locked in our half for most of the 2nd quarter and all of the 3rd. They kicked 2 points in the 3rd quarter.

We failed to capitalise on our opportunities and their backline held up pretty well defending.

[Grantysghost]

This happens literally every time we play them.

Surely our coaching group is held accountable at some point?

How dare you Matt Spangher is learning on the job and trying his best!
He had a great hug huddle going pre game if that's worth anything.
To be fair I've got nfi if he's any good but it would be nice to get some experience alongside Bevo from another system.

[Bullies]

Gardener down back as well. I honestly think they zoned off him so he was open to take possession and kick. He's come a long way but he's just an average player. Like you said, we've got too many like that and we're found out in times like this. And who would have done better than Gardner?

[Bullies]

Can we move on from borderline state level players in McComb and McNeil?

I'd much rather invest time into Jones and Bedendo moving forward. Khamis is a mile off it as well. He just needs time in the 2's to learn the game. He has no idea where and when to run.

[angelopetraglia]

Just back from the game. Such a frustraing night.

We came out from the start with intensity but missed chances. They made us pay with coast to coast gaols and from difficult conversions to rub salt into the wounds. We also then gifted them goals with school boy turnovers. Then they got momentum and we were on the back foot. The way Geelong play you don't want to give them a lead to defend.

Every time we play Geelong they also play the game on their terms. They concede the midfield numbers and contest to us. However, they defend the front of the stoppage well. They force us backwards and they always have players behind the ball. We need to force the play into a crowded Bulldogs forward line. When they get a turnover they are then off to the races and get easier looks when they get behind us.

Our inability to even halve contests in the air is a massive concern. They just schooled us all night. The part that hurt the most was so many uncontested marks where they just had numbers and better positioning.

Even with all of that ... if we took our chances like they take their chances we win. Cameron kicks them from everywhere. Angles, distances, pressure all result in goals. McComb after the play of the night misses from 30m out directly in front. Weightman misses a set shot from 20m with a regulation snap. Naughton misses a snap from 15m out. West can't make the distance with a set shot snap from 30m. How are we so bad at converting? We win the inside 50 count 57-48 and lose again.

Even with all those missed goals, we absolutely gifted them two goals from horrific school boy turnovers in our back 50m. They gave us nothing easy all night.

We are close. But we are a mile away. Just not good enough to get the job finished and have now lost to Carlton by 12, Geelong by 13, Crows by 1 and Port by 17. Even win two of those and we would be flying. But to lose all of them is just puts us in a difficult position.

[bornadog]

And who would have done better than Gardner?

We don't have anyone.

Gardner played majority of the game on Hawkins and kept him to two goals. One was due to a mistake by our backs and the other a joe the goose.

Cameron on the other hand killed us, and was too mobile for Keith

[josie]

Schache would have been nice as another tall forward or back. And he kicks straight. That McComb miss was such a let down. Battled hard but such a poor 1st qtr.

Can someone explain to me, seeing as Cameron is not a pack mark rather a run to space player why our one of our backs do not play in front of him? Again Schache would have been a nice option as well as giving up having one of our bottom 6 short/vanilla players.

[bornadog]

How dare you Matt Spangher is learning on the job and trying his best!
He had a great hug huddle going pre game if that's worth anything.
To be fair I've got nfi if he's any good but it would be nice to get some experience alongside Bevo from another system.

I don't agree, coaching is not the issue.

[josie]

Just back from the game. Such a frustraing night.

We came out from the start with intensity but missed chances. They made us pay with coast to coast gaols and from difficult conversions to rub salt into the wounds. We also then gifted them goals with school boy turnovers. Then they got momentum and we were on the back foot. The way Geelong play you don't want to give them a lead to defend.

Every time we play Geelong they also play the game on their terms. They concede the midfield numbers and contest to us. However, they defend the front of the stoppage well. They force us backwards and they always have players behind the ball. We need to force the play into a crowded Bulldogs forward line. When they get a turnover they are then off to the races and get easier looks when they get behind us.

Our inability to even halve contests in the air is a massive concern. They just schooled us all night. The part that hurt the most was so many uncontested marks where they just had numbers and better positioning.

Even with all of that ... if we took our chances like they take their chances we win. Cameron kicks them from everywhere. Angles, distances, pressure all result in goals. McComb after the play of the night misses from 30m out directly in front. Weightman misses a set shot from 20m with a regulation snap. Naughton misses a snap from 15m out. West can't make the distance with a set shot snap from 30m. How are we so bad at converting? We win the inside 50 count 57-48 and lose again.

Even with all those missed goals, we absolutely gifted them two goals from horrific school boy turnovers in our back 50m. They gave us nothing easy all night.

We are close. But we are a mile away. Just not good enough to get the job finished and have now lost to Carlton by 12, Geelong by 13, Crows by 1 and Port by 17. Even win two of those and we would be flying. But to lose all of them is just puts us in a difficult position.

Hear hear, well said.

[angelopetraglia]

We don't have anyone.

Gardner played majority of the game on Hawkins and kept him to two goals. One was due to a mistake by our backs and the other a joe the goose.

Cameron on the other hand killed us, and was too mobile for Keith

Gardner is not at league standard. He coughed up opportunites with regulation kicks gone bad with zero pressure. We don't have other options but when you compare who Geelong have in defence he doesn't stack up.

[KT31]

Can we move on from borderline state level players in McComb and McNeil?

I'd much rather invest time into Jones and Bedendo moving forward.

Excellent point TBB, seriously how we can move on a player like Lipinski for zip and give players like McComb a crack absolutely baffles me.

[angelopetraglia]

Excellent point TBB, seriously how we can move on a player like Lipinski for zip and give players like McComb a crack absolutely baffles me.

He left for better opportunites. We offered him a deal. Lippa also aint solving the issues we are currently facing. We won the midfield contest again. A large part of the game was played in our forward half of the ground. We lack classy forwards who can seize an opportunity and score. We lack quality tall defenders. McComb/Lippa is not the difference between winning and losing tonight.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

Gardner is not at league standard. He coughed up opportunites with regulation kicks gone bad with zero pressure. We don't have other options but when you compare who Geelong have in defence he doesn't stack up.

I can handle a mistake here and there, its going to happen to the very best. For many of his opponent's goals, there wasn't much I thought he did wrong. He's no A grader, but he's definitely shown he is able to play a role at this level.

[SonofScray]

Game was lost in the first 5 minutes.

I respect the effort to get within arms distance, but that’s all teams need to hold us off.

It was a physically weak performance and perhaps only Libba brought the requisite intent and physicality across the four quarters. Mentally, I think we have a bit going for us, to think through the game and get going when it looked gone. But I don’t reckon we are strong enough, for long enough, to revive a BMAC-ism.

2 goals in a row and a physical statement, to get our nose in front and I think we win. But we were never going to get that extra goal.

[angelopetraglia]

I can handle a mistake here and there, its going to happen to the very best. For many of his opponent's goals, there wasn't much I thought he did wrong. He's no A grader, but he's definitely shown he is able to play a role at this level.

But to win big games against quality teams when the heat is on you need A grade talls. Or at least one. We don't have one. Keath is maybe a B grader at best. Gardner is lucky to be C grade. It ain't going to cut it.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

How dare you Matt Spangher is learning on the job and trying his best!
He had a great hug huddle going pre game if that's worth anything.
To be fair I've got nfi if he's any good but it would be nice to get some experience alongside Bevo from another system.

Hahaha :)

[angelopetraglia]

Game was lost in the first 5 minutes.

I respect the effort to get within arms distance, but that’s all teams need to hold us off.

It was a physically weak performance and perhaps only Libba brought the requisite intent and physicality across the four quarters. Mentally, I think we have a bit going for us, to think through the game and get going when it looked gone. But I don’t reckon we are strong enough, for long enough, to revive a BMAC-ism.

2 goals in a row and a physical statement, to get our nose in front and I think we win. But we were never going to get that extra goal.

We spent a lot of tickets getting back into the game. They conserved a lot of energy chipping it around defending a large league. It was always going to be very difficult after the first quarter. The second half of the first quarter we dropped our heads. But the first half we played with intent and had plenty of chances. We just didn't take them which handed them momentum.

We kicked 1.5. They kicked 7.2. Six to nine scoring shots. We missed how many easy chances?

[jazzadogs]

We don't have anyone.

Gardner played majority of the game on Hawkins and kept him to two goals. One was due to a mistake by our backs and the other a joe the goose.

Cameron on the other hand killed us, and was too mobile for Keith

I was surprised Gardner went to Hawkins and Keath to Cameron. I would have thought the other way round made more sense.

I liked Bukus ruckwork and dont think having Sweet in would have made a difference.

We did not play to our forward set up at all - we knew we were short, so needed to use our hit up players. It is hard to believe that the players willingly ignored instructions, so I can only assume those instructions weren't given and 'bomb it to Cody in a 3 on 1' was a team rule.

[Bullies]

I can handle a mistake here and there, its going to happen to the very best. For many of his opponent's goals, there wasn't much I thought he did wrong. He's no A grader, but he's definitely shown he is able to play a role at this level. Good call and to add Gardner would have only played 20 games+. Let's give him until at least 50 before making judgement. The talls as we know take a bit longer to develop. He has been given some big jobs.

[angelopetraglia]

Tackles in forward 50m

Rohan 4
Cameron 2
Hawkins 2
Nauhgton 2

Cats 13. Dogs 7. Even with our mosqiuto fleet we can't lay enough pressure. That difference is basically the ball game.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

But to win big games against quality teams when the heat is on you need A grade talls. Or at least one. We don't have one. Keath is maybe a B grader at best. Gardner is lucky to be C grade. It ain't going to cut it.

I agree we are going to struggle if we're relying on him at this stage to be the main man. But i think he's exhibited enough (even this game) to show he has a role. We just need to bloody find a quality tall defender to take over from the role Gardner is being asked to play.

Naughton is doing a very good job this year, tonight excluded, of being the key forward focal point, but I wonder next year, if Jamarra can improve, and Bruce can get back from his injury, do the coaching group look to reintroduce him for a couple of years down back?
Naughton will influence a game no matter where he is. And unless we can attend to our key defensive post list deficiencies at the end of the year, I just can't see us having the profile to really challenge.

It sort of reminds me of a 'reverse Eade years issue', where we just didn't quite have quality talls in our forward line. And it probably stopped us from winning a couple of prelims.

[SonofScray]

We spent a lot of tickets getting back into the game. They conserved a lot of energy chipping it around defending a large league. It was always going to be very difficult after the first quarter. The second half of the first quarter we dropped our heads. But the first half we played with intent and had plenty of chances. We just didn't take them which handed them momentum.

We kicked 1.5. They kicked 7.2. Six to nine scoring shots. We missed how many easy chances?
Felt similar to the Carlton loss.

That and the Port game when Marshall marked everything in the wing. Geelong’s last five kicks long to the members wing, they pulled it down for a grab.

[angelopetraglia]

I agree we are going to struggle if we're relying on him at this stage to be the main man. But i think he's exhibited enough (even this game) to show he has a role. We just need to bloody find a quality tall defender to take over from the role Gardner is being asked to play.

Naughton is doing a very good job this year, tonight excluded, of being the key forward focal point, but I wonder next year, if Jamarra can improve, and Bruce can get back from his injury, do the coaching group look to reintroduce him for a couple of years down back?
Naughton will influence a game no matter where he is. And unless we can attend to our key defensive post list deficiencies at the end of the year, I just can't see us having the profile to really challenge.

It sort of reminds me of a 'reverse Eade years issue', where we just didn't quite have quality talls in our forward line. And it probably stopped us from winning a couple of prelims.

Yes. Solid points and highlights what we already know is that the list is unbalanced. It also allows Scott to coach in the negative manner he did tonight. He knows they don't need that many looks to win the game. It influences the way teams match up on us.

[Grantysghost]

But to win big games against quality teams when the heat is on you need A grade talls. Or at least one. We don't have one. Keath is maybe a B grader at best. Gardner is lucky to be C grade. It ain't going to cut it.

Is a fair point the best teams have A grade tall defenders.

Grimes, Rance
May, Lever
Two other players.

Our defence is a real concern and as you say pretty B grade.

[angelopetraglia]

Felt similar to the Carlton loss.

That and the Port game when Marshall marked everything in the wing. Geelong’s last five kicks long to the members wing, they pulled it down for a grab.

Forwards love playing agaisnt us. They have a field day. Even Darling who has not been able to get a kick in a stable this year kicked a bag.

#1 Brown 3. All early by memory.
#2 Curnow 5. McKay 4.
#3 Franklin 2. We contained them that game.
#4 Lynch 4.
#5 Larkey 4.
#6 Walker 3.
#7 Wright 4.
#8. Finlayson 3. Marshall 2.
#9 Pies don't have a power forward.
#10 Jeffrey 5!!!!!!
#11 Darling 4 in a 100 point loss
#12 Cameron 6

We have an issue. We all know it. Big forwards lick their lips.

[angelopetraglia]

I hate Geelong. Hate them. Hate them. Hate them.

That is 2 wins for us from our last 17 games.

Last few games.

Cats by 13
Cats by 5 after the siren.
Cats by 11.

They own us.

[Grantysghost]

Tackles in forward 50m

Rohan 4
Cameron 2
Hawkins 2
Nauhgton 2

Cats 13. Dogs 7. Even with our mosqiuto fleet we can't lay enough pressure. That difference is basically the ball game.

Geelong owned the corridor when we were rebounding and made the ground small.
Forced long kicks to a midget forward line, we high press, and when there's a turnover they got it to Cameron and Hawkins (working brilliantly together) enough times that was the game in a nutshell for me.

They were unrelenting around the ball too, pressed consistently all night and had the superior talls.

We just copped a very good side tonight and never really looked like winning.

As soon as we threatened they did what they had to.

Not sure how Marra played today? But on the back of 6 goals how both McComb and McNeil stay in against a tall side is slightly bewildering.

[angelopetraglia]

Geelong owned the corridor when we were rebounding and made the ground small.
Forced long kicks to a midget forward line, we high press, and when there's a turnover they got it to Cameron and Hawkins (working brilliantly together) enough times that was the game in a nutshell for me.

They were unrelenting around the ball too, pressed consistently all night and had the superior talls.

We just copped a very good side tonight and never really looked like winning.

As soon as we threatened they did what they had to.

Not sure how Marra played today? But on the back of 6 goals how both McComb and McNeil stay in against a tall side is slightly bewildering.

Good analysis and agree. They played the game on their terms. Marra went goaless. Not sure how he played.

[bornadog]

Not sure how Marra played today?

Well MJP did say he has to do it longer than just two games, and guess what didn't kick a goal today.

[Grantysghost]

Good analysis and agree. They played the game on their terms. Marra went goaless. Not sure how he played.

Argh, ok bugger thanks. Not sure he would've been the difference, but hope he warrants a regular gig soon he would be handy.

[angelopetraglia]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUVBQ98akAAB-ma?format=jpg&name=small

Very good player in H&A. But gee whiz what an over celebrating flog. Get a kick in September and then you can carry on like a pork chop. Running around after every goal like he jjust scored the winning goal in the Champions League. Seriously.

[Eastdog]

The 1st quarter was the difference in that game tonight. We came into the game in the 2nd and 3rd quarters keeping them goaless in the 3rd. The final was even on the scoreboard but they did enough and held on.

[kruder]

It's still hard to comprehend that first quarter. There was just 0 pressure it was bizarre even the crowd was quiet from the opening bounce.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Tackles in forward 50m

Rohan 4
Cameron 2
Hawkins 2
Nauhgton 2

Cats 13. Dogs 7. Even with our mosqiuto fleet we can't lay enough pressure. That difference is basically the ball game.

It's hard to lay tackles with the way we set up as forwards, especially in transition when the opposition have the ball in how we step 10m away from the mark and invite opposition to take the space.

When/if we conceed marks in our F50, this greatly compounds the problem and we simply don't touch the ball which is exactly what happened early in the game.

It's why I despise this tactic; it does NOT work against sides with skill and composure.

The last thing you want to do is to give good teams and good players time and space with the ball. The fact we do this every single solitary time kills us, especially given our own inaccuracy problems.

[MrMahatma]

That was a final.
We shat the bed.

I hope 2023 is better.

[G-Mo77]

And who would have done better than Gardner?

We don't have anyone else and there lies the problem. He has improved out of site and I have warmed to him and got more comfortable with him being there until he gets the ball in hand and tries to kick it. Teams seem to be leaving him wide open and I reckon that's intentional.