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jeemak
25-06-2022, 12:13 AM
Scott played a pretty good game and picked up 22 disposals, whilst Gardner had 20 plus 9 marks

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWBHL6haAAA_r6G?format=jpg&name=large

Put some charge into your battery you maniac.

FrediKanoute
25-06-2022, 12:29 AM
A foolish decision to play him. Does little for his confidence. We were fortunate that West Schache and Jamarra all played well tonight

Agree, Wally had to have been a better choice or even debut Bendendo or play Garcia

BornInDroopSt'54
25-06-2022, 12:37 AM
Agree, Wally had to have been a better choice or even debut Bendendo or play Garcia

Cody presented and contested well.
He provided a target well bringing the ball to ground.
However commendable his enthusiasm for playing is, in retro maybe others would've been better options.
Seriously he will feel crap in that elbow for weeks.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 05:08 AM
West works wonders again in new forward role…
https://www.afl.com.au/news/785198/top-eight-dogs-bulldogs-find-their-bite-in-hawks-demolition

azabob
25-06-2022, 07:17 AM
Weightman had 14 pressure acts same as West.

Thanks for posting this.

My biggest pet peeve is using stats or worse super coach to determine if a player has had a good game or not.

Macrae got 40 must be best on ground. Five bulldog midfielders are averaging 30+ disposals a game they must have the best midfield in the game. Disposals are noise when looking at a players impact on the game.

In the first quarter most of if not all the hawks goals came because they waltzed it out of our forward line.

After quarter time clearly our pressure acts went up and hawthorns scoring died down .

Naughton 22 PA, Weightman 14, West 14, JUH 12, Schache 9, JJ 8.

Our change in intent at the ball and the ball carrier changed the course of the game.

G-Mo77
25-06-2022, 09:24 AM
Our change in intent at the ball and the ball carrier changed the course of the game.

It did, my concern is why does it take a quarter before it kicks in. They should be ready and raring to go, straight out of the blocks.

Is it reactivate coaching? Waiting to absorb their first punch before countering?

jazzadogs
25-06-2022, 09:51 AM
If people are happy with 1 touch for a game then they have lower standards than me.

I thought Cody contributed to a forward line which kicked a big score, and was unlucky not to have at least two shots on goal himself (the West free kick and a courageous mark that wasn't paid). His pressure acts show that he was still in the game.

I'm not convinced that he should have played, but he played his pressure forward role and contributed - a week after kicking 5 and dislocating his elbow.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 10:08 AM
I thought Cody contributed to a forward line which kicked a big score, and was unlucky not to have at least two shots on goal himself (the West free kick and a courageous mark that wasn't paid). His pressure acts show that he was still in the game.

I'm not convinced that he should have played, but he played his pressure forward role and contributed - a week after kicking 5 and dislocating his elbow.

McComb had 17 pressure acts.
West 14, Cody 14, JJ 9.

That's the stuff the coaches love; fans can get stuck on what happens with the ball disproportionately.

Edit : Libba just had the lazy 27! What a star.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 11:35 AM
Was Bevo's 100th win as coach, first Dog's coach to do so.

Danjul
25-06-2022, 12:43 PM
McComb had 17 pressure acts.
West 14, Cody 14, JJ 9.

That's the stuff the coaches love; fans can get stuck on what happens with the ball disproportionately.

Edit : Libba just had the lazy 27! What a star.
Hate to be the one that shoots Bambi but Weightman should not have been selected. It was the biggest selection blunder I have ever seen.

And to whitewash things by saying he had pressure acts doesn’t cut it. He was poor (he couldn’t move his arm effectively and it looked like he had reduced feeling in his hand) and the selection committee should have known that foreseeable outcome didn’t justify the risks.

And for the record,football is all about the ball. If you want heroes you go to the movies.

jeemak
25-06-2022, 12:46 PM
Hate to be the one that shoots Bambi but Weightman should not have been selected. It was the biggest selection blunder I have ever seen.

And to whitewash things by saying he had pressure acts doesn’t cut it. He was poor (he couldn’t move his arm effectively and it looked like he had reduced feeling in his hand) and the selection committee should have known that foreseeable outcome didn’t justify the risks.

And for the record,football is all about the ball. If you want heroes you go to the movies.

And you've seen and vocalised your fair share of blunders I'd imagine.......

He was a bit stiff not to have had the goal West ended up with, and another shot later in the game. Interestingly, both from overhead marks.

bornadog
25-06-2022, 12:53 PM
And you've seen and vocalised your fair share of blunders I'd imagine.......

He was a bit stiff not to have had the goal West ended up with, and another shot later in the game. Interestingly, both from overhead marks.

All the posters can try and justify that Weightman had a good game and stats prove nothing. Well, one disposal, and maybe should have been two doesn't cut it and is a vital stat.

Weightman is one of my favourite players, but I was extremely disappointed.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 12:56 PM
All the posters can try and justify that Weightman had a good game and stats prove nothing. Well, one disposal, and maybe should have been two doesn't cut it and is a vital stat.

Weightman is one of my favourite players, but I was extremely disappointed.

I don't think he had a "good" game.

But he certainly contributed to the team defence in the forward line and presented all night.

I trust the medicos to know the risks.

He wasn't a 1 possession bad game like a Cory McKernan in the past.

GVGjr
25-06-2022, 12:57 PM
Hate to be the one that shoots Bambi but Weightman should not have been selected. It was the biggest selection blunder I have ever seen.

And to whitewash things by saying he had pressure acts doesn’t cut it. He was poor (he couldn’t move his arm effectively and it looked like he had reduced feeling in his hand) and the selection committee should have known that foreseeable outcome didn’t justify the risks.

And for the record,football is all about the ball. If you want heroes you go to the movies.

I have to agree that the MC got this one wrong. I wonder if that now puts him in doubt for the clash against Brisbane.

SonofScray
25-06-2022, 01:02 PM
All the posters can try and justify that Weightman had a good game and stats prove nothing. Well, one disposal, and maybe should have been two doesn't cut it and is a vital stat.

Weightman is one of my favourite players, but I was extremely disappointed.
Wouldn’t have played him. Appreciated his courage at the contest when he had to go, but was clearly hampered by the arm and didn’t really get in the game. Best I can say is that he took a player, posed a threat in the meta sense, and maybe freed up the avenue for West to funnel the footy through instead.

jeemak
25-06-2022, 01:09 PM
And you've seen and vocalised your fair share of blunders I'd imagine.......

He was a bit stiff not to have had the goal West ended up with, and another shot later in the game. Interestingly, both from overhead marks.

He didn't play very well in terms of productivity with the footy. Had some almost chances and was maniacal at the footy in some instances, while putting on a lot of pressure.

He didn't have a good game and it's possible this was because of his injury, but like some forward pockets do sometimes (and he has in the past when fit), he may have just had a quiet day.

It's likely he'll have surgery at the end of this year on his elbow, and he'll have to play in pain/ discomfort if he wants to play for the rest of the year as it is. He may as well get used to it.

Perhaps after watching the replay it'll be clearer to me as to as to whether/ how much it impacted him.

chef
25-06-2022, 01:14 PM
It was the biggest selection blunder I have ever seen.

Nah, Jose in that Prelim still takes the cake.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 01:16 PM
Hate to be the one that shoots Bambi but Weightman should not have been selected. It was the biggest selection blunder I have ever seen.

And to whitewash things by saying he had pressure acts doesn’t cut it. He was poor (he couldn’t move his arm effectively and it looked like he had reduced feeling in his hand) and the selection committee should have known that foreseeable outcome didn’t justify the risks.

And for the record,football is all about the ball. If you want heroes you go to the movies.

Gold Danj!

Should we just sit down when the other team has it?

Happy Days
25-06-2022, 01:30 PM
https://youtu.be/kvW206mI7tM

G-Mo77
25-06-2022, 01:31 PM
I've got no problems with the Weightman selection. They would have needed to put their best small defender on him, letting West out of the cage. It also would have put a few worries about reinjury to bed in his mind. You can call him "pathetic" for his one disposal. I call it a courageous effort.

macca
25-06-2022, 01:34 PM
McComb had 17 pressure acts.
West 14, Cody 14, JJ 9.

That's the stuff the coaches love; fans can get stuck on what happens with the ball disproportionately.

Edit : Libba just had the lazy 27! What a star.
Interesting now that pressure acts are recorded as a stat
When did this start happening ? It is another KPI i guess they measure

Don’t really see this on the tv as it may be off screen

Can someone give please give example of how pressure act is counted ?

Danjul
25-06-2022, 01:43 PM
He didn't play very well in terms of productivity with the footy. Had some almost chances and was maniacal at the footy in some instances, while putting on a lot of pressure.

He didn't have a good game and it's possible this was because of his injury, but like some forward pockets do sometimes (and he has in the past when fit), he may have just had a quiet day.

It's likely he'll have surgery at the end of this year on his elbow, and he'll have to play in pain/ discomfort if he wants to play for the rest of the year as it is. He may as well get used to it.

Perhaps after watching the replay it'll be clearer to me as to as to whether/ how much it impacted him.
it definitely impacted him. And it possibly led to at least one head knock. He didn’t seem properly balanced at times.

He should have been protected from his own exuberance. Two significant nerves go through the elbow and they were Impacted from the dislocation. You could see from the way he used his hand.

On a different note, last year we learnt the importance of scoring. Missed the double chance last year by a goal I think. Does giving an injured player so much game time impact on our final percentage. We need to boost that because we dropped games against Struggling teams like Adelaide and Port, and missed out on valuable points. Almost getting the ball isn’t part of the calculation.

In professional sport the selection must be professional.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 01:49 PM
Interesting now that pressure acts are recorded as a stat
When did this start happening ? It is another KPI i guess they measure

Don’t really see this on the tv as it may be off screen

Can someone give please give example of how pressure act is counted ?

There's a few. From Champion data glossary.

Pressure Act (Implied): Reducing an opponent’s decision making time without physical contact ‘via corralling, closing space or chasing from behind’.

Pressure Act (Corralling): The lowest form of pressure a player can apply, where they are simply occupying space in front of the ball carrier to prevent them moving forward, or have a run at them, but not quickly enough to record ‘closing’ pressure

Pressure Act (Closing): A higher degree of pressure than corralling, where the pressure player is on the verge of making contact with the ball carrier (either from in front or the side) as he disposals of the ball. The key point of difference between this and corralling is that there will be imminent contact and the pressure player is forcing the ball carrier to dispose of it immediately.

Pressure Act (Chasing): Where a player applies pressure from behind an opponent by chasing. They must be gaining ground or applying pressure significant enough to hurry the ball carrier to dispose of the ball. If the chasing player is on the verge of making physical contact from behind, then closing pressure will be imminent

Pressure Act (Physical): Applying direct physical contact to a player in the act of disposing of the ball or effecting a tackle that prevents an effective disposal from the ball carrier.

jeemak
25-06-2022, 02:02 PM
it definitely impacted him. And it possibly led to at least one head knock. He didn’t seem properly balanced at times.

He should have been protected from his own exuberance. Two significant nerves go through the elbow and they were Impacted from the dislocation. You could see from the way he used his hand.

On a different note, last year we learnt the importance of scoring. Missed the double chance last year by a goal I think. Does giving an injured player so much game time impact on our final percentage. We need to boost that because we dropped games against Struggling teams like Adelaide and Port, and missed out on valuable points. Almost getting the ball isn’t part of the calculation.

In professional sport the selection must be professional.

If you looked at last night and thought not securing a higher percentage was due to our inability to score then I think you're probably missing the point.

As I said, I'll watch the replay and see if a sore arm meant he copped a head knock and whether I can tell from TV if he had nerve damage affecting his hand and get back to you.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 02:06 PM
If you looked at last night and thought not securing a higher percentage was due to our inability to score then I think you're probably missing the point.

As I said, I'll watch the replay and see if a sore arm meant he copped a head knock and whether I can tell from TV if he had nerve damage affecting his hand and get back to you.

At the game I couldn't see any impairment, I'll have to watch replay too as it appears Danj and others maybe see something I didn't live.

Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
25-06-2022, 02:48 PM
I am pretty confident that Weightman's selection decision was made in a professional manner. Any hint of there being real risk of dangerous repercussions to Cody would've meant a line drawn through him at Selection Meeting, no matter how insistently he may have pleaded his case to the coaches. I just don't doubt that. I think Beveridge has shown enough of his character to see that he genuinely cares about the well-being of his players and would not take undue risk with their safety.

For those here who are comfortable with the health side of things regarding his selection, there is still interesting debate to be had in the space of whether or not his discomfort ended up being a tactical plus or negative for us.
I reckon it was a short term, game specific tactical master stroke!

I hear BAD's argument that a 1 possession game is not the hallmark of what would generally define a good game or even an acceptable game. And I agree for the most part that its certainly not an indicator of a good performance by a player. However it's not the only important data indicator of a good performance.

I'd be pretty bloody surprised and amazed if coaches didn't assign and track a range of different indicators that have weighted importance assigned to them, depending on the gameplan, tactics and roles each player is performing. Once medically cleared, the selection committee have to weigh up whether Cody can perform a particular role given his restricted movement. I don't find it too hard a stretch to think that in the wash-up the Match Committee settled on the thought that once cleared to play Hawthorn would definitely plan for Cody as being a potentially effective scoring threat they would need to counter. That's something that we could potentially exploit and tactically use to our advantage. I reckon Cody was given a very specifically defined role to play last night, that probably was quite different from his usual role.

I thought the forward line last night looked as threatening as it has in a long while, even with Cody's 1 possie game. All forwards had opportunities to impact the game, and they all did in some capacity, whether by goals, tackles, marks, passes, or maintaining effective forward pressure. Even Cody was unluckily denied a goal (and another possie!), which Westy subsequently kicked.


I don't think the fact that we had a nice spread of goalkickers last night is insignificant. I'd like to see some stats on how often we went to Cody as first option, or whether he was given a role that predominantly saw him being evaluated on some very specific set of indicators, maybe defensive pressure stats, blocks to enable other forwards to get the jump on an opponent to instigate a lead, or maybe how many times Cody led to spaces (as a known decoy to his teamates) and therefore dragged the Hawks defensive unit out of shape, bringing lanes or one on one opportunities for other forwards.

I think Cody played a role last night, and I think as a really specific short term tactic it worked well and allowed West, Shache, JUH and Naughts to look really dangerous as a unit.

He may not get a TV like Robbert Klomp did for winning BOG for a 7(?) possie game in the early 80's, but I think when his line coach reviews his performance with him Cody will be getting some pretty positive feedback based on the very specific indicators they were judging him on.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 02:57 PM
My vote for post of the year YHF. Clubhouse leader.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 06:13 PM
Classic shit housery

https://i.postimg.cc/sxpjCjP1/Screenshot-20220625-181143-Instagram.jpg (https://postimg.cc/dZVP8KxK)

BornInDroopSt'54
25-06-2022, 06:46 PM
Nah, Jose in that Prelim still takes the cake.

How about Hudson running in front of Grant on goal line, last qtr '97 prelim?

jazzadogs
25-06-2022, 06:54 PM
Classic shit housery

https://i.postimg.cc/sxpjCjP1/Screenshot-20220625-181143-Instagram.jpg (https://postimg.cc/dZVP8KxK)

$1000 fine for misconduct

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 06:59 PM
How about Hudson running in front of Grant on goal line, last qtr '97 prelim?

One of my very good mates was an assistant to Huddo at Sandy.
I may have gone to a function with free booze and asked Paul that very question. This was me...

https://media.giphy.com/media/10yIEN8cMn4i9W/giphy.gif

Suffice to say I needed to smooth things over the next time I saw him xD (he was fine).

Danjul
25-06-2022, 07:13 PM
I fully accept that selecting a one armed player is a master stroke. Nobody at Hawthorn was expecting it and by the time they had woken up to the ploy the game was over.

But this will not stand as the greatest selection idea of all time because all coaches are going to try to out genius it.

I suspect one of them is going to dig up a deceased player and tie them to a goal post to act as a decoy. The only problem is all are turning in their grave and looking too active.

chef
25-06-2022, 07:14 PM
How about Hudson running in front of Grant on goal line, last qtr '97 prelim?

We were talking about picking injured players.

Happy Days
25-06-2022, 07:36 PM
I don’t think you can make one of the all time selection blunders in a 7 goal win but I guess when Schache and Sweet both get picked you’ve gotta find some new material.

The Underdog
25-06-2022, 07:51 PM
I don’t think you can make one of the all time selection blunders in a 7 goal win but I guess when Schache and Sweet both get picked you’ve gotta find some new material.

I thought Sweet allowing Reeves to dominate in the first quarter was a masterstroke and allowed him to rope a dope Reeves into thinking he was awesome, so that Sweet could work his way into the game after that.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 07:56 PM
I don’t think you can make one of the all time selection blunders in a 7 goal win but I guess when Schache and Sweet both get picked you’ve gotta find some new material.

https://media.giphy.com/media/9hWDaFUX4WUmX9XC7c/giphy.gif

BornInDroopSt'54
25-06-2022, 08:03 PM
One of my very good mates was an assistant to Huddo at Sandy.
I may have gone to a function with free booze and asked Paul that very question. This was me...

https://media.giphy.com/media/10yIEN8cMn4i9W/giphy.gif

Suffice to say I needed to smooth things over the next time I saw him xD (he was fine).

Haha. And Libba's goal not called. I was down the other end but had a clear view.

jeemak
25-06-2022, 10:32 PM
I fully accept that selecting a one armed player is a master stroke. Nobody at Hawthorn was expecting it and by the time they had woken up to the ploy the game was over.

But this will not stand as the greatest selection idea of all time because all coaches are going to try to out genius it.

I suspect one of them is going to dig up a deceased player and tie them to a goal post to act as a decoy. The only problem is all are turning in their grave and looking too active.

This is some perverted stuff and I think I like your posting when we win much more than when we lose.

In fact I want us to pick the side exactly the way you want it to be picked and win, so we can see what actually proliferates on screen when we do.

Grantysghost
25-06-2022, 11:18 PM
This is some perverted stuff and I think I like your posting when we win much more than when we lose.

In fact I want us to pick the side exactly the way you want it to be picked and win, so we can see what actually proliferates on screen when we do.

Weekend at Cody's.

jeemak
25-06-2022, 11:38 PM
Weekend at Cody's.

I suspect one of them is going to dig up a deceased player and tie them to a goal post to act as a decoy. The only problem is all are turning in their grave and looking too active.

This is what somebody said after a win.

macca
26-06-2022, 01:02 AM
$1000 fine for misconduct

Is that all ?

How many " Is that a being a Tool act? " did Sicily get counted for ?

I recall at least 3:

1. pulling Naughton's headband
2. pathetic attempt to shirtfront bonts, which Sicily got floored
3. one on one spoil against weightman

jeemak
26-06-2022, 01:07 AM
Is that all ?

How many " Is that a being a Tool act? " did Sicily get counted for ?

I recall at least 3:

1. pulling Naughton's headband
2. pathetic attempt to shirtfront bonts, which Sicily got floored
3. one on one spoil against weightman

Chill......chill......relax macca.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/786729/match-review-fiery-hawk-hit-with-two-charges-teammate-fined

James Sicily, Hawthorn, has been charged with Misconduct against Aaron Naughton, Western Bulldogs, during the third quarter of the Round 15 match between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn played at Marvel Stadium on Friday, June 24 2022.

In summary, the player can accept a $1000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Misconduct. The incident was classified as a $1500 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $1000 sanction with an early plea.


James Sicily, Hawthorn, has been charged with Striking Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Western Bulldogs, during the fourth quarter of the Round 15 match between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn played at Marvel Stadium on Friday, June 24 2022.

In summary, he can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Intentional Conduct, Low Impact, Body Contact. The incident was classified as a $3000 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

Bulldog4life
26-06-2022, 08:59 AM
Nah, Jose in that Prelim still takes the cake.

Rohan Smith at centre half back against Robran in same match was a doozy of a selection chef.

jazzadogs
26-06-2022, 09:02 AM
Chill......chill......relax macca.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/786729/match-review-fiery-hawk-hit-with-two-charges-teammate-fined

James Sicily, Hawthorn, has been charged with Misconduct against Aaron Naughton, Western Bulldogs, during the third quarter of the Round 15 match between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn played at Marvel Stadium on Friday, June 24 2022.

In summary, the player can accept a $1000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Misconduct. The incident was classified as a $1500 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $1000 sanction with an early plea.


James Sicily, Hawthorn, has been charged with Striking Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Western Bulldogs, during the fourth quarter of the Round 15 match between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn played at Marvel Stadium on Friday, June 24 2022.

In summary, he can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

Based on the available evidence, the incident was assessed as Intentional Conduct, Low Impact, Body Contact. The incident was classified as a $3000 sanction as a first offence. The player can accept a $2000 sanction with an early plea.

I didn't remember what the JUH incident was, until I remembered him on his haunches in the forward line at some point. So I assume big brave skipper Sicily gut punched a 20 year old behind play? Cool cool cool cool cool

Grantysghost
26-06-2022, 10:10 AM
Rohan Smith at centre half back against Robran in same match was a doozy of a selection chef.

Libba on McLeod... Why are we doing this xD

Grantysghost
26-06-2022, 10:10 AM
I didn't remember what the JUH incident was, until I remembered him on his haunches in the forward line at some point. So I assume big brave skipper Sicily gut punched a 20 year old behind play? Cool cool cool cool cool

How does he get a fine for striking?

Mantis
26-06-2022, 10:12 AM
So my little bloke had an absolute ball on Friday night.

Wasn’t enjoying himself in the first quarter and when I asked what was the concern he said the noise…. From you Dad! Yep, I was a little vocal when we were battling.

Was engaged in the contest and even missed the scuffle between Bont & Sicily which was only 10m from where we were sitting. I watched the scuffle and the boy follows the action and said that Naughton did a big kick to Rhylee when I quizzed him.

He sang the song at the end and we had to wait for the players to do a lap of the ground, he got a high five from Naughts, but wasn’t overly impressed by Alex Keath who burnt him.

He saw that our next game at Marvel is against St.Kilda and he wasn’t to go… he’s sort of hooked now. The poor boy!

Bulldog4life
26-06-2022, 10:22 AM
Libba on McLeod... Why are we doing this xD

Blame chef

EasternWest
27-06-2022, 08:09 AM
So my little bloke had an absolute ball on Friday night.

Wasn’t enjoying himself in the first quarter and when I asked what was the concern he said the noise…. From you Dad! Yep, I was a little vocal when we were battling.

Was engaged in the contest and even missed the scuffle between Bont & Sicily which was only 10m from where we were sitting. I watched the scuffle and the boy follows the action and said that Naughton did a big kick to Rhylee when I quizzed him.

He sang the song at the end and we had to wait for the players to do a lap of the ground, he got a high five from Naughts, but wasn’t overly impressed by Alex Keath who burnt him.

He saw that our next game at Marvel is against St.Kilda and he wasn’t to go… he’s sort of hooked now. The poor boy!

Keath probably wondering why he wasn't In school.

Mantis
27-06-2022, 09:35 AM
Keath probably wondering why he wasn't In school.

I did make mention that he doesn't like anyone so don't get offended.

The Bulldogs Bite
27-06-2022, 11:23 AM
I was pleased with Marra after the first half.

I said before the game he needed to show something, as a reminder to himself more than anything, that he's on the right track. At half time and very early in the third I was disappointed. He had some missed tackles, dropped marks, slipped over and generally looked out of his depth.

Then he started presenting and leading hard, took multiple strong grabs and got involved. It was an encouraging performance that won't make the headlines in the paper, but said to me that he didn't drop his head and was able to turn the tide to have an impact.

Still a long way to go as you would expect but his development over the rest of the season is important heading into effectively his second 'real' pre-season.

merantau
27-06-2022, 11:48 AM
He definitely contributed to the team performance. Unless there's someone knocking the door down it would be folly, from the point of view of his development, not to play him for the rest of the season. Remember he played very little football in the year before he came to us.

Grantysghost
27-06-2022, 05:09 PM
AFLCA votes :

Western Bulldogs v Hawthorn
10 Tom Liberatore (WB)
7 Rhylee West (WB)
4 Jack Scrimshaw (HAW)
4 Marcus Bontempelli (WB)
3 Aaron Naughton (WB)
1 Mitch Lewis (HAW)
1 Josh Dunkley (WB)

LEADERBOARD
76 Clayton Oliver (MELB)
65 Lachie Neale (BL)
64 Andrew Brayshaw (FRE)
59 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
58 Touk Miller (GCFC)
55 Christian Petracca (MELB)
53 Jeremy Cameron (GEEL)
49 Connor Rozee (PORT)
48 Callum Mills (SYD)
45 Sam Walsh (CARL)
44 James Sicily (HAW)
43 Bailey Smith (WB)
42 Jack Crisp (COLL)
41 Sam Docherty (CARL)
41 Hugh McCluggage (BL)
41 Darcy Parish (ESS)
40 Max Gawn (MELB)
37 Charlie Curnow (CARL)
37 Taylor Walker (ADEL)

BornInDroopSt'54
27-06-2022, 08:12 PM
Forgive me my love of good cynicism but this guy is my preferred reviewer, outside of Couldabeens, Titus O'Relly addressing an audience who want hysterical overreaction:

"Kudos to the AFL for scheduling not one, but two comedies on Friday night.

With the Bulldogs playing the straight man, Hawthorn were free to let their comedic impulse run wild.

The bit where the Hawks conceded 13 straight goals was hilarious, but it was James Sicily who took it to the next level, by ripping off Aaron Naughton’s headband.

He’s been hit with a $1000 fine, because as we all know, the headband is sacrosanct.

No word yet if Aaron Naughton will miss next week due to the trauma of such an incident, but if he needs to sit out a few weeks, no one will think less of him.

Mainly due to the fact you can’t think less of someone who wears a headband.

Sicily now in a headwear-destroying frenzy, then gave a body punch to Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, presumably because he wasn’t wearing headwear, and got a $2000 fine for that.

In fairness to Sicily, at least you knew he was out there, which you can’t say about a lot of Hawks players.

Mitch Lewis was one of the few others who can hold his head up high. Imagine if he had a midfield that got the ball!

As for the Doggies, they’re finally in the eight after going the long way round and are well-positioned to make up the number in September or run amok and disrupt anything.

Who knows what they can do? Footy rarely makes sense".