AFL Game Day R13 2022

[Eastdog]

Round 13, 2022


Thursday, Jun 9

Richmond vs. Port Adelaide MCG 7:20pm Seven/Fox


Friday, Jun 10

Essendon vs. Carlton MCG 7:50pm Seven/Fox


Saturday, Jun 11

Fremantle vs. Hawthorn Optus Stadium 4:10pm Fox Footy

Brisbane Lions vs. St Kilda The Gabba 7:25pm Seven/Fox


Sunday, Jun 12

North Melbourne vs. GWS GIANTS Marvel Stadium 3:20pm Fox Footy


Monday, Jun 13

Collingwood vs. Melbourne MCG 3:20pm Seven/Fox



Byes: Adelaide Crows, Gold Coast Suns, Western Bulldogs, West Coast Eagles, Sydney Swans and Geelong Cats

[Eastdog]

Bump

[Grantysghost]

May and Melksham got into a drunken fight with each other..

2017 Dogs vibes.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1144624

[azabob]

May and Melksham got into a drunken fight with each other..

2017 Dogs vibes.

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1144624

love it.

[Flamethrower]

Trying to decide if the current AFL umpires are incompetent, or are they cheats. In almost every game these days they clearly favour one side over the other. Tonight Richmond were gifted the win.

Give me the umpires in the WRFL any day over these clowns, especially the junior and volunteer umpires - no egos, just pay the obvious free kicks.

[Grantysghost]

We are officially a game outside the 8 now.

[azabob]

We are officially a game outside the 8 now.

We already were. We are a game behind Collingwood… yes Collingwood have more wins than us.

[Bulldog Joe]

Trying to decide if the current AFL umpires are incompetent, or are they cheats. In almost every game these days they clearly favour one side over the other. Tonight Richmond were gifted the win.

Give me the umpires in the WRFL any day over these clowns, especially the junior and volunteer umpires - no egos, just pay the obvious free kicks.

The free to Gibcus to give the Tigers back the lead was so far wrong and a game changer.

[merantau]

The free to Gibcus to give the Tigers back the lead was so far wrong and a game changer.
Yep, so soft. Port's kicking inside 50 plumbed new depths. Very often they didn't even give their forwards the chance to halve the contest.

[bornadog]

My two most hated teams playing tonight. I prefer Essendon (yes) to win.

[macca]

My two most hated teams playing tonight. I prefer Essendon (yes) to win.

Is that because they are both known cheats ? ;)

[bornadog]

Is that because they are both known cheats ? ;)

exactly

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Young has been good for Carlton.

Amazing what a run of games in one role will do for confidence.....

On another note, Carlton have finally arrived. The Curnow/McKay combo is scary.

[jeemak]

Young has been good for Carlton.

Amazing what a run of games in one role will do for confidence.....

On another note, Carlton have finally arrived. The Curnow/McKay combo is scary.

Playing him or otherwise aside, I remember commenting on Young last year and still thinking that he seemed like a kid. Under-developed, and generally immature looking.

He looks a bit bigger generally this year as well as seemingly fitting in OK. I sometimes wonder if we're too scientific with how we bulk up players but then you get guys like English and Naughton who really manage to stack it on. I get everyone is different in how they develop, but we're never the side that looks bigger on the field even when we play less mature teams.

[Grantysghost]

Playing him or otherwise aside, I remember commenting on Young last year and still thinking that he seemed like a kid. Under-developed, and generally immature looking.

He looks a bit bigger generally this year as well as seemingly fitting in OK. I sometimes wonder if we're too scientific with how we bulk up players but then you get guys like English and Naughton who really manage to stack it on. I get everyone is different in how they develop, but we're never the side that looks bigger on the field even when we play less mature teams.

Sometimes it takes a fresh start for some guys to realise their potential.
Jones was similar.

[jeemak]

I'm more talking about size, but I agree with you.

Wouldn't be surprised if the first thing they said to Lewis is if you want to win respect around here be the first in the gym and the last out, and do extras.

[GVGjr]

Young has been good for Carlton.

Amazing what a run of games in one role will do for confidence.....

On another note, Carlton have finally arrived. The Curnow/McKay combo is scary.

I wonder if he is having a Richards type year in that he is responding well to being played in a more natural position for him?
Went out to dinner with a few ex colleagues tonight the Carlton supporter kept quizzing me on why we allowed Young to leave.

[jeemak]

I wonder if he is having a Richards type year in that he is responding well to being played in a more natural position for him?
Went out to dinner with a few ex colleagues tonight the Carlton supporter kept quizzing me on why we allowed Young to leave.

That must have been annoying. Once or twice must have been enough for you to answer it sufficiently. I guess that's why I stay away from ex-colleagues because most often they don't know my triggers.....hence being ex-colleagues! :)

I kid, I kid.

I think it's because he wasn't played regularly. He was offered a two year deal, so it probably came down to money and opportunities and a chance to buy a second house one day.

[G-Mo77]

Sometimes it takes a fresh start for some guys to realise their potential.
Jones was similar.

Just opportunity in Young's case.

[bornadog]

Stringer is useless, glad he left

[josie]

I think Young should have been given more opportunities with us and had more upside than say Cordy. Good luck to him. Like Lipinski you wish them well.

[josie]

Stringer is useless, glad he left

Too heavy, injury prone. Yep, agree. Then again he is just as likely to play a blinder against us.

[jeemak]

Tom Browne is in the Carlton rooms saying how much he hopes Essendon get to celebrate how amazing they are. Acolyte.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

I wonder if he is having a Richards type year in that he is responding well to being played in a more natural position for him?

Undoubtedly.

He showed enough with us but we refused to play him or played him out of position.

He was one of the best on the ground v Brisbane in Ballarat, played average the next week v GC and got dropped. Meanwhile, over the last few years, we've played the likes of English, Cordy and Gardner even when they had little impact repeatedly. English is going back a few extra years, but still relevant.

I don't think Young is a star but it's a blight on our coaching group that he's now playing very well in a top 4 side.

[EasternWest]

money and opportunities and a chance to buy a second house one day.

What a traitor.

[jeemak]

What a traitor.

Absolute traitor.

[jeemak]

Undoubtedly.

He showed enough with us but we refused to play him or played him out of position.

He was one of the best on the ground v Brisbane in Ballarat, played average the next week v GC and got dropped. Meanwhile, over the last few years, we've played the likes of English, Cordy and Gardner even when they had little impact repeatedly. English is going back a few extra years, but still relevant.

I don't think Young is a star but it's a blight on our coaching group that he's now playing very well in a top 4 side.

I put a comparison up a few weeks ago, his disposal efficiency with us versus what it was at that time had increased a lot as well, so good on him for taking his opportunities.

[The bulldog tragician]

Too heavy, injury prone. Yep, agree. Then again he is just as likely to play a blinder against us.

He has never played well against us. Thankfully.

Lewy Young is another of those Bevo mysteries. I feel really disappointed that he didn’t have the opportunity to grow into a role with us.

[GVGjr]

That must have been annoying. Once or twice must have been enough for you to answer it sufficiently. I guess that's why I stay away from ex-colleagues because most often they don't know my triggers.....hence being ex-colleagues! :)

I kid, I kid.

I think it's because he wasn't played regularly. He was offered a two year deal, so it probably came down to money and opportunities and a chance to buy a second house one day.

Just noticed Brad Johnson said this on Twitter

Good to see a good young defender in Lewis Young playing well, pity the coach of the dogs didn’t think to play him in the position he is best suited

[G-Mo77]

Just noticed Brad Johnson said this on Twitter

Good to see a good young defender in Lewis Young playing well, pity the coach of the dogs didn’t think to play him in the position he is best suited

Can I get an amen?

[comrade]

Just noticed Brad Johnson said this on Twitter

Good to see a good young defender in Lewis Young playing well, pity the coach of the dogs didn’t think to play him in the position he is best suited

Love Johnno.

[Grantysghost]

Just noticed Brad Johnson said this on Twitter

Good to see a good young defender in Lewis Young playing well, pity the coach of the dogs didn’t think to play him in the position he is best suited

Wait isn't his boyfriend the defensive coach (bubba).

That's a big statement from Johnno, I wouldn't be going in the toilets anywhere near where Bevo is Brad!

[jeemak]

He did mainly play as a defender, it's just that he rarely played.

Bevo/ the MC preferred others for some reason. That's just how it goes.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

He did mainly play as a defender, it's just that he rarely played.

Bevo/ the MC preferred others for some reason. That's just how it goes.

With all due respect jee, I'm not sure why so many continually sweep Bevo and the MC's mistakes under the rug.

We've been crying out for tall defenders for years, but yet we cough a young one up who showed promise to a top 4 side.

His treatment was crap as per my last post.

[Happy Days]

I didn’t watch the game but I’m looking at the box score and it seems someone on Carlton let the actual literal worst player of all time (Draper) kick 2 goals. I’m gonna choose to believe it was Young and go back to going about my day.

[macca]

With all due respect jee, I'm not sure why so many continually sweep Bevo and the MC's mistakes under the rug.

We've been crying out for tall defenders for years, but yet we cough a young one up who showed promise to a top 4 side.

His treatment was crap as per my last post.

I am not convinced on this asking players to be multi positioned , as in reality it’s a hard ask and it requires a different skill set

Run +12km a game, be able to read the passage , mark in packs , kick under fatigue and beat your opponent and the whole team defense thingy. Add on top of that play in different position ???? Not really a good JOb description to be recruited to the dogs

If you look at all the teams which have won premiership , have they asked their players to play multiple positions ?
Melbourne last year , exception to petracca , gawn and Jackson , I cannot recall them asking their players to play multiple positions


Some players just cannot do it

Better be master of one , do It well , beat your Opponent at that position.

I blame the stupid interchange caps for forcing this in large part . They really should increase the cap to another 30% as I fear players are playing under fatigue which is when injuries can occur. Maybe not in the game but can happen afterwards

[merantau]

The Bombers dominated the last quarter kicking 4 points to 2 - absolutely overwhelming a pretty insipid Blues outfit. If only the game could've gone on for another decade Bombers were a big chance.

That was a huge fade out by the Blues. They looked tired. Could be the end of the season for them. I can't see them coming back from that shellacking. There's something going on at Carlton. Voss gave them one hell of a bollocking at the break but the players just didn't respond. In fact they did the opposite! They put the cue in the rack!

You can't talk to players like that any more. It was a silent protest by Blues players. A collective display of rebellion against an autocratic, overbearing bully - a throwback to Stalinist Russia if you will.

The players gave a collective one-finger salute to Voss - and good on 'em. Mark my words, there's trouble at Carlton. They won't make the 8 if Voss doesn't read the room.

Meanwhile a resurgent Bombers outfit - after that stunning last quarter turn around - 4 points to 2, can you believe it? - can build on that. I can see them winning every game from now on, by big margins, making a late run for the 8 and sneaking in on percentage. "Whatever it takes" Bombers. Never forget.

[macca]

The Bombers dominated the last quarter kicking 4 points to 2 - absolutely overwhelming a pretty insipid Blues outfit. If only the game could've gone on for another decade Bombers were a big chance.

That was a huge fade out by the Blues. They looked tired. Could be the end of the season for them. I can't see them coming back from that shellacking. There's something going on at Carlton. Voss gave them one hell of a bollocking at the break but the players just didn't respond. In fact they did the opposite! They put the cue in the rack!

You can't talk to players like that any more. It was a silent protest by Blues players. A collective display of rebellion against an autocratic, overbearing bully - a throwback to Stalinist Russia if you will.

The players gave a collective one-finger salute to Voss - and good on 'em. Mark my words, there's trouble at Carlton. They won't make the 8 if Voss doesn't read the room.

Meanwhile a resurgent Bombers outfit - after that stunning last quarter turn around - 4 points to 2, can you believe it? - can build on that. I can see them winning every game from now on, by big margins, making a late run for the 8 and sneaking in on percentage. "Whatever it takes" Bombers. Never forget.

I had them at round 4 capitulating to their old ways . Voss has kept them for 12 rounds at least . But agree it’s starting to unravelling now, their snowflake overpaid players will bear their true nature shortly … delicious to watch

[EasternWest]

I had them at round 4 capitulating to their old ways . Voss has kept them for 12 rounds at least . But agree it’s starting to unravelling now, their snowflake overpaid players will bear their true nature shortly … delicious to watch

Wait are you talking about us or Carlton because I can't tell.

[bornadog]

Hawks no push over

[merantau]

Hawks no push over

Yep, and we have to play them. We need to lift. The next few weeks is a big test for the Club. Another year wasted? I hope not.

[GVGjr]

Hawks no push over

think I mentioned this last week but I'm concerned that Mitchell is actually a good coach.
He seems to be getting a lot out of an average playing list.

[Grantysghost]

think I mentioned this last week but I'm concerned that Mitchell is actually a good coach.
He seems to be getting a lot out of an average playing list.

Those two games could be the difference between finals and not for us.

They knocked us off twice last season, once at Whitten in pre season and during that horror end that cost us top 4.

Hopefully we've learnt.

[Happy Days]

think I mentioned this last week but I'm concerned that Mitchell is actually a good coach.
He seems to be getting a lot out of an average playing list.

I really agree. He hasn’t established a readily identifiable brand but he comes in with a game plan for every single team.

I think our weaknesses are actually the same but I’m interested to see how he targets us.

[jeemak]

With all due respect jee, I'm not sure why so many continually sweep Bevo and the MC's mistakes under the rug.

We've been crying out for tall defenders for years, but yet we cough a young one up who showed promise to a top 4 side.

His treatment was crap as per my last post.

All I'm saying is he preferred others, I don't know why. But Young was predominantly played as a defender when he played for us, and that's all I'm saying.

I thought Young was OK, good and shit sometimes as a defender for us. I think he was immature physically and commented as such last year.

Let's see how he goes over a period of time, but make no mistake, I'm not defending Bevo by saying what I was above. I just don't know why, so I don't get upset about it.

[whythelongface]

This St kilda side are hard as nails. If only we had their resolve. They aren’t an attractive team (in both senses) but they are bloody good defensively.

[bornadog]

This St kilda side are hard as nails. If only we had their resolve. They aren’t an attractive team (in both senses) but they are bloody good defensively.

Didn't help them in the last quarter

[whythelongface]

Didn't help them in the last quarter

True. Kiss of death worked ��

[BornInDroopSt'54]

That must have been annoying. Once or twice must have been enough for you to answer it sufficiently. I guess that's why I stay away from ex-colleagues because most often they don't know my triggers.....hence being ex-colleagues! :)

I kid, I kid.

I think it's because he wasn't played regularly. He was offered a two year deal, so it probably came down to money and opportunities and a chance to buy a second house one day.

Haha hilarious.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

Hmmm sensitive me is feeling something unfolding like history.
A leader doubted. Basically like all leaders, must keep the wins up. Bruce, JJ and Hunter may fire up a run home like last year. GWS with a false sense of security v us next week may help a momentum.

[josie]

I don’t care if it’s bad for us if pies win. Go pies!!! (I have a soft spot for them).

[GVGjr]

I don’t care if it’s bad for us if pies win. Go pies!!! (I have a soft spot for them).

Good contest, Brayshaw has been outstanding.
I don't really care either way who wins.

[chef]

Good contest, Brayshaw has been outstanding.
I don't really care either way who wins.

I really enjoy watching the Pies play this season, they play some exciting footy and have a crack all over the ground.

[Grantysghost]

That pies #1 goes ok. Great skills always keeps his feet.

[bornadog]

I really enjoy watching the Pies play this season, they play some exciting footy and have a crack all over the ground.

Great game great win

[jeemak]

Massive win for the Pies. Eat shit Melbourne.

[Grantysghost]

Massive win for the Pies. Eat shit Melbourne.

They've got a fake flag to keep them warm.

Remember what their president said :

"They won’t be a premiership side [completely] until they win here at our heartland, the MCG,” Roffey said.

How's the AFL's best leader lambasting a 19 yr old when off the ground.

I actually like Ginnivin has some character.

[josie]

Mihocek-gutsy player.

Could we have drafted Cox just prior to this season? I know some were disparaging but I reckon he’s ok and like his confidence.

Happy for Lippy.

Go Pies!

[jeemak]

They've got a fake flag to keep them warm.

Remember what their president said :

"They won’t be a premiership side [completely] until they win here at our heartland, the MCG,” Roffey said.

How's the AFL's best leader lambasting a 19 yr old when off the ground.

I actually like Ginnivin has some character.

But, he really likes coffee and is so cool because of it.

People really struggle with the concept that players don't and never ever have changed direction with the football whilst standing up perfectly straight. It's actually impossible to do.

The onus is on the tackler to make sure the tackle stays below the shoulders and above the knees. If momentum or moving the arms makes a tackle slip high, it's a free kick. I really don't know why it drives people mad when the free kick is paid.

[GVGjr]

I really enjoy watching the Pies play this season, they play some exciting footy and have a crack all over the ground.

They've performed better than I thought they would. I don't rate their list anywhere near as good as ours but they stood up against Naarm

[Grantysghost]

But, he really likes coffee and is so cool because of it.

People really struggle with the concept that players don't and never ever have changed direction with the football whilst standing up perfectly straight. It's actually impossible to do.

The onus is on the tackler to make sure the tackle stays below the shoulders and above the knees. If momentum or moving the arms makes a tackle slip high, it's a free kick. I really don't know why it drives people mad when the free kick is paid.

Exactly! Tackle properly.

I get the one where they slide it up like McLean and Selwood, that should be play on if the umpire sees it, but that wasn't one of those.

[azabob]

But, he really likes coffee and is so cool because of it.

Don’t forget he also makes hipster Jaffels and loves the Tour de France. Extra bonus points.

[jeemak]

Exactly! Tackle properly.

I get the one where they slide it up like McLean and Selwood, that should be play on if the umpire sees it, but that wasn't one of those.

If you move your arms and it results in the tackle going high then it should be a free. Just like if you run and the tackle slips low and you trip, it should be a free.

The onus should be on the tackler to make sure it stays below the shoulders and above the knee.

[jeemak]

Don’t forget he also makes hipster Jaffels and loves the Tour de France. Extra bonus points.

I forgot about those things. *!*!*!*! he's cool.

[Grantysghost]

If you move your arms and it results in the tackle going high then it should be a free. Just like if you run and the tackle slips low and you trip, it should be a free.

The onus should be on the tackler to make sure it stays below the shoulders and above the knee.

Hmm not sure I agree on that one, I've got no problem with the move if they get out of a tackle but it's like ducking to me.
You're making it high on purpose.

[jeemak]

Hmm not sure I agree on that one, I've got no problem with the move if they get out of a tackle but it's like ducking to me.
You're making it high on purpose.

That's like saying running out of a tackle makes it too low on purpose if a tackle slips below the knees.

If I stand up, don't duck but move my arms when someone tackles me in the act of trying to break the tackle or dispose of the footy and it slips high, why wouldn't it be a free? Am I supposed to just submit to the tackle?

Sure, if I completely lose my legs and it goes high then play on.

[Grantysghost]

That's like saying running out of a tackle makes it too low on purpose if a tackle slips below the knees.

If I stand up, don't duck but move my arms when someone tackles me in the act of trying to break the tackle or dispose of the footy and it slips high, why wouldn't it be a free? Am I supposed to just submit to the tackle?

Sure, if I completely lose my legs and it goes high then play on.

I say nay and you're clearly wrong I'm giving you a Max Gawn style spray ;)

Edit: Important part in your argument is stand up. The ones I refer to they drop the knees. Think McLean.

[comrade]

Are Melbourne actually cooked?

[Grantysghost]

Are Melbourne actually cooked?

I think the bye has come at a very good time.

This season is up for grabs though so being two games out of the 8 really sucks.

[Testekill]

Are Melbourne actually cooked?

They lost their fitness guy; it's not coincidental that in three losses in a row they couldn't run out a game.

[Grantysghost]

They lost their fitness guy; it's not coincidental that in three losses in a row they couldn't run out a game.

Burgess is at the Crows now.

[Mantis]

Didn't help them in the last quarter

They simply ran out of legs with 3 midfielders off with injuries.