Three things you've learnt. Round eleven v West Coast Eagles 2022

[Twodogs]

So. Come on then. Three things you found out tonight.

[macca]

1. Tim English is soOOO important. His a good ruck and plays as an extra midfield. If we can get a 10% improvement in Sweet , watch out the ruck duo!

2. 16 goal kickers, 7 of which multiple goal kickers. Keith with multiple goals. Extraordinary number of goals, Big % booster. If we win next week, Cats would drop a few places!

3. When there is all round team performance we can bury teams. .

[AshMac]

1. Can see why Bevo isn’t a fan of sweet. Unless he’s playing ruck he is nowhere near it

2. Really pleasing to see rhylee west developing and getting better but by big each week. Very good tonight

3. I want to see that level of transition, spread and contested ball winning against a top 8 side

[westbulldog]

1. We did the job that we needed to do, but don't get carried away by this win, Westcoast are at a very low ebb.
2. West earned his selection once again.
3. Based on tonight, I can't see Sweet getting it done against Stanley and Blicavs.

[Bulldog4life]

1. Tim is our number one ruck that is without a doubt.

2. Sweety needs forward coaching during the week if he wants to stay in.

3. McNeil can kick it long and accurately.

[Mantis]

1. Tim is our number one ruck that is without a doubt.

2. Sweety needs forward coaching during the week if he wants to stay in.

3. McNeil can kick it long and accurately.

Do you really think his issues can be fixed in a week? He looks horrible as a forward for Footscray and if you can’t touch it when your team wins by over 100 points and you have almost 70 inside 50’s then you’re in trouble.

[angelopetraglia]

Do you really think his issues can be fixed in a week? He looks horrible as a forward for Footscray and if you can’t touch it when your team wins by over 100 points and you have almost 70 inside 50’s then you’re in trouble.

Yep. 100%. He is competitive and physical at the ruck contest but is basically like playing a man down around the ground.

[AshMac]

Agree. The issue is he is an ok tap ruckman but not setting the world alight. Tough to prioritise over English in the ruck contests with how Tim is playing this year and that just leaves him in nomans land

[comrade]

Agree. The issue is he is an ok tap ruckman but not setting the world alight. Tough to prioritise over English in the ruck contests with how Tim is playing this year and that just leaves him in nomans land

Timmy has just taken himself to a new level this year. I still question his ability to handle the really elite, physical rucks but outside of Gawn and maybe one or two others, he’ll just leave the rest for dust now.

We’re absolutely desperate for a decent #2 ruck/forward to provide a chop out and maintain structure. Doesn’t even have to be of the Jackson/Marshall caliber, just an improvement on Cordy/Sweet/Hannan etc. Darcy may be the perfect player for this but we need one now, not in 2-3 years.

[whythelongface]

Timmy has just taken himself to a new level this year. I still question his ability to handle the really elite, physical rucks but outside of Gawn and maybe one or two others, he’ll just leave the rest for dust now.

We’re absolutely desperate for a decent #2 ruck/forward to provide a chop out and maintain structure. Doesn’t even have to be of the Jackson/Marshall caliber, just an improvement on Cordy/Sweet/Hannan etc. Darcy may be the perfect player for this but we need one now, not in 2-3 years.

If only Schache was that player. Has the height and forward craft but not the physical hardness. Sounds like he is going ok at VFL level. Are we better off with a tap ruckman that doesn’t provide much around the ground or a forward who we know can play but is not necessarily physical enough to compete as a ruck? If Shaq could hold his own in the ruck then option 2 is the better option. He can also play in defence.

[comrade]

If only Schache was that player. Has the height and forward craft but not the physical hardness. Sounds like he is going ok at VFL level. Are we better off with a tap ruckman that doesn’t provide much around the ground or a forward who we know can play but is not necessarily physical enough to compete as a ruck? If Shaq could hold his own in the ruck then option 2 is the better option. He can also play in defence.

Shaq has the right dimensions and physical attributes but holding your own in the ruck seems like it’s more mindset based than other roles. Compelling yourself to just jump into another massive unit, cop knees and elbows in uncomfortable spots all day, wrestle and compete etc. It requires an aggressive and proactive attitude and it’s that element that Shaq lacks (also why he struggles and disappears when playing forward at times).

Cordy has the right sort of attitude (which is probably why Bevo persists) but has none of the physical attributes to be effective in the role for any length of time.

I don’t think it’s really teachable or trainable. I reckon if you’re 200cm, you either love using your size to dominate others or you shy away from it entirely. Shaq seems the latter.

[GVGjr]

Timmy has just taken himself to a new level this year. I still question his ability to handle the really elite, physical rucks but outside of Gawn and maybe one or two others, he’ll just leave the rest for dust now.

We’re absolutely desperate for a decent #2 ruck/forward to provide a chop out and maintain structure. Doesn’t even have to be of the Jackson/Marshall caliber, just an improvement on Cordy/Sweet/Hannan etc. Darcy may be the perfect player for this but we need one now, not in 2-3 years.

I guess the short term fix is Bruce but I believe we need someone a bit better than that. A confident Schache as whythelongface suggested would be ideal but there is a big gap between his best and worst performances.

[comrade]

I guess the short term fix is Bruce but I believe we need someone a bit better than that. A confident Schache as whythelongface suggested would be ideal but there is a big gap between his best and worst performances.

I don’t like Bruce doing it when he’s fully fit, and especially not after an ACL. It’s a specialist role that needs the right player to do it and we’ve neglected this for way too long.

[Bulldog4life]

Do you really think his issues can be fixed in a week? He looks horrible as a forward for Footscray and if you can’t touch it when your team wins by over 100 points and you have almost 70 inside 50’s then you’re in trouble.

I should have written weeks.

[azabob]

1. Luke Beveridge coaching from the bench is working; hopefully he can continue it at grounds like Marvel as the players seem to be embracing it.

2. I love, love, love our new onfield structure. Keath, Gardner and O'Brien down back, Williams and Scott on the wings. The forwards mixing up how they set up after a goal (all in single file, etc). Just another tweak or two needed. Kudos to the coaching staff recognising we needed subtle changes and making them.

3. Aaron Naughton is a leader on field through his voice and his actions. If we can fix the second forward and ruck position he will only get better. Sky is literally the limit.

[Happy Days]

1. I was right about Sweet. I didn’t learn this but you all should have.

2. Bailey Williams on the wing is hot shit.

3. West Coast are broken. Their 22 is not so bad that they should be giving up like that before games even start.

[Scorlibo]

1. Sometimes the best 'recruits' come from within, we've picked up a powerful half-forward and damaging wingman in West and Williams

2. Even having missed five games, Timmy could still top our Brownlow count this year.

3. Alex Keath was capable of kicking GOTY this whole time

[DOG GOD]

1. If Westy can keep that intensity going, he should cement in the best 22 for the rest of the year.
2. A few of us suggested Williams to the wing. Wow, he looks like he’s enjoying his footy again. Great to see.
3. Our backline is still shaky for mine and I worry about teams with genuinely strong fwd setups.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

1. That if we beat Geelong, have a good chance of 6 in a row.
2. If golfing me could control a powerful draw like Williams kick for goal I would be king of the fairways.
3. With a Keath and English back we are a much better team.

[Flamethrower]

1. Forget Gold Coast - send West Coast to Tassie

2. We have learnt how to bury teams. We used to be the masters of turning 10 goal leads into 5 goal wins.

3. Tim English and Ryan Gardiner - from scapegoats to key cogs in the team.

[Twodogs]

1. That if we beat Geelong, have a good chance of 6 in a row.
2. If golfing me could control a powerful draw like Williams kick for goal I would be king of the fairways.
3. With a Keath and English back we are a much better team.


The technique for kicking a footy and hitting a golf ball are fairly similar. Head over the ball at the point of contact, keep your head still and don't lift it up .

[EasternWest]

The technique for kicking a footy and hitting a golf ball are fairly similar. Head over the ball at the point of contact, keep your head still and don't lift it up .

Why haven't you ever mentioned this before?

[azabob]

Why haven't you ever mentioned this before?

Would’ve avoided a lot of heartache and angst. Also would’ve had a few more wins on the board.

[1eyedog]

I think TD needs an hour down at WO.

[FrediKanoute]

1. Was surprised when I saw the stat's and Riley West only had 13 touches.....had way more influence on the game than that;

2. Williams to the wing has been a master stroke - strong, aggressive and impacts the scoreboard;

3. If English hasn't arrived then the train is in sight.