Experienced Senior Assistant Coach to help Bevo - Who?

[bornadog]

A few months ago, the club sounded out Leon Cameron to come to the Bulldogs and take some load off Bevo's shoulder, however, Leon rejected it due to his daughter's schooling in Sydney.

Who are the candidates we should chase?

Ross Lyon has rejected applying for the Essendon Senior role - should we chase him?

Is there someone we should poach from Melbourne, Geelong or other successful teams?

Personally I would want someone that has not been under Bevo previously like a Gia, Boyd. I want new ideas coming into the club, to give the coaching panel something to think about.

[Sedat]

I like Ben Rutten - he is a defensive line specialist and Essendon would pay his salary in 2023, which helps with our soft cap. Unfortunately Richnond also like him and look like getting him.

[bornadog]

I like Ben Rutten - he is a defensive line specialist and Essendon would pay his salary in 2023, which helps with our soft cap. Unfortunately Richmond also like him and look like getting him.

Club needs to get cracking, as soon, no one left

[Happy Days]

Why don’t we simply poach another club’s lead assistant in December? Worked well enough against us.

[josie]

I know Pies handled Treloar contract badly. But I like Buckley. I reckon he is a strong leader and has been measured and respectful in his interviews and media career. Whether he and Bevo would be able to work together I’m not sure, but I trust the club to define the senior assistant role well. Media might have a field day though with an ex coach so may not be appropriate.

I also prefer experienced assistants who are not ex (reasonably recent) Bulldogs.

What about Bartel?

[G-Mo77]

I know Pies handled Treloar contract badly. But I like Buckley. I reckon he is a strong leader and has been measured and respectful in his interviews and media career. Whether he and Bevo would be able to work together I’m not sure, but I trust the club to define the senior assistant role well. Media might have a field day though with an ex coach so may not be appropriate.

I also prefer experienced assistants who are not ex (reasonably recent) Bulldogs.

What about Bartel?

I'd love Matty Boyd back in a coaching role.

[azabob]

I know Pies handled Treloar contract badly. But I like Buckley. I reckon he is a strong leader and has been measured and respectful in his interviews and media career. Whether he and Bevo would be able to work together I’m not sure, but I trust the club to define the senior assistant role well. Media might have a field day though with an ex coach so may not be appropriate.

I also prefer experienced assistants who are not ex (reasonably recent) Bulldogs.

What about Bartel?

Bartel is the guy we should poach to be our GM of Football.

He isn't interested in coaching. Football Admin is his go.

[Vred]

As I said in one of the other threads.

If the rumor that Bubba is retiring from coaching this off season is true, M. Scarlett would be my first choice for defensive line coach, his already been a development coach at the dogs, and built one of the best defensive lines of the current Geelong era, currently unemployed, no brainer for me.

I'd be offering either Yze of Cox a grandfather offer to take over from Bev when he steps down, would have them as an assistant until that point.

Forward line coach? Literally anyone other than who we have now.

[Axe Man]

A few months ago, the club sounded out Leon Cameron to come to the Bulldogs and take some load off Bevo's shoulder, however, Leon rejected it due to his daughter's schooling in Sydney.

Who are the candidates we should chase?

Ross Lyon has rejected applying for the Essendon Senior role - should we chase him?

Is there someone we should poach from Melbourne, Geelong or other successful teams?

Personally I would want someone that has not been under Bevo previously like a Gia, Boyd. I want new ideas coming into the club, to give the coaching panel something to think about.

I can't see Lyon being interested in an assistant position.

Boyd has never coached under Bevo and has been at 2 other clubs for the past 5 years, his ideas should be as new as any other candidate.

[GVGjr]

A few months ago, the club sounded out Leon Cameron to come to the Bulldogs and take some load off Bevo's shoulder, however, Leon rejected it due to his daughter's schooling in Sydney.

Who are the candidates we should chase?

Ross Lyon has rejected applying for the Essendon Senior role - should we chase him?

Is there someone we should poach from Melbourne, Geelong or other successful teams?

Personally I would want someone that has not been under Bevo previously like a Gia, Boyd. I want new ideas coming into the club, to give the coaching panel something to think about.

Boyd played under Bevo so is there really any difference being playing under him or coaching for him?

I think Jaymie Grahan would be a terrific addition.
I'd have Brett Montgomery and Matt Boyd back as well. Monty as the senior assistant, Boyd to potentially replace Smith
Mark Williams would be a terrific addition to work with our younger guys.

I don't think Lyon is a good fit for us and I couldn't see him coming in as a 2IC

I'll scan some of the clubs, I think there are a few options.

[Mofra]

Rocca brothers - forwards coach and kicking coach

[Mofra]

Backline coach - ideally Luke Hodge or a similar "organiser".

Left field coaching idea - Shane Edwards. Very good football brain, I don't know how his communication skills are though

[azabob]

Rocca brothers - forwards coach and kicking coach

Why are you such a big fan of both brothers?

[Mofra]

Why are you such a big fan of both brothers?
If they can turn a late pick (Larkey) into a star and make Casboult a better than average set shot for goal after being terrible at it for years, then they must have some coaching ability

[Bulldog Revolution]

Mark Williams would be a terrific addition to work with our younger guys.


You've been a proponent of Williams for a while, and looking back its crazy he was only coaching VFL for a while

Love the suggestion of Matthew Scarlett

David Mundy is the kind of former player Id look to - but I don't know what coaching aspirations he has or doesn't

Would a John Blakey be looking for a change of scenery?

Dale Tapping from Essendon? Not sure Jarrad McVeigh from Sydney would be looking for a move?

Stevie Johnson? Shane O'Bree?

[GVGjr]

I like Ben Rutten - he is a defensive line specialist and Essendon would pay his salary in 2023, which helps with our soft cap. Unfortunately Richnond also like him and look like getting him.

There is a bit of merit in that suggestion. Getting in front of Richmond might be a challenge.

[GVGjr]

You've been a proponent of Williams for a while, and looking back its crazy he was only coaching VFL for a while

Love the suggestion of Matthew Scarlett

David Mundy is the kind of former player Id look to - but I don't know what coaching aspirations he has or doesn't

Would a John Blakey be looking for a change of scenery?

Dale Tapping from Essendon? Not sure Jarrad McVeigh from Sydney would be looking for a move?

Stevie Johnson? Shane O'Bree?

Williams was a good coach and he has always been an inspiring communicator with good player development thoughts and programs.
I think he could add some value to us and support Bevo.

Blakey might be worth considering.

We are probably after two coaches given there is talk that Rohan Smith will make a change.

[bornadog]

Williams was a good coach and he has always been an inspiring communicator with good player development thoughts and programs.
I think he could add some value to us and support Bevo.

Blakey might be worth considering.

We are probably after two coaches given there is talk that Rohan Smith will make a change.

I give huge credit to Williams for the 2021 premiership

[Grantysghost]

I give huge credit to Williams for the 2021 premiership

Do we know what exactly it is he does?

Spritual guide or something.

[josie]

Do we know what exactly it is he does?

Spritual guide or something.

Pretty good choking tie dance moves.

[bornadog]

Do we know what exactly it is he does?

Spritual guide or something.

Pretty sure he develops the younger players, and advises Goodwin

[G-Mo77]

Williams was a good coach and he has always been an inspiring communicator with good player development thoughts and programs.
I think he could add some value to us and support Bevo.

Blakey might be worth considering.

We are probably after two coaches given there is talk that Rohan Smith will make a change.

Smith going as well? If that's the case then hopefully 3 changes. A completely new crew.

Bell and Inness should also be replaced.

[GVGjr]

Smith going as well? If that's the case then hopefully 3 changes. A completely new crew.

Bell and Inness should also be replaced.

Did I hear Innes 'might be' moving back to cricket? I wonder how much of their departments were impacted by cut back to the soft cap?

[Grantysghost]

Did I hear Innes 'might be' moving back to cricket? I wonder how much of their departments were impacted by cut back to the soft cap?

He's the fitness guy right?

I'm not too fussed with that.

[bornadog]

Did I hear Innes 'might be' moving back to cricket? I wonder how much of their departments were impacted by cut back to the soft cap?

I noticed Matt Innes was sitting on the bench with Bevo in mopst games and acting like an assistant coach. Is this normal for the fitness bloke to be doing this?

[Grantysghost]

Pretty good choking tie dance moves.

Haha... Alan Scott.. You were wrong!

[bornadog]

He's the fitness guy right?

I'm not too fussed with that.

He has been pretty good. Our boys have always run out games and are super fit.

[GVGjr]

I noticed Matt Innes was sitting on the bench with Bevo in mopst games and acting like an assistant coach. Is this normal for the fitness bloke to be doing this?

I would imagine a lot of our guys double up on match days to help out where they can.

[Grantysghost]

I noticed Matt Innes was sitting on the bench with Bevo in mopst games and acting like an assistant coach. Is this normal for the fitness bloke to be doing this?

I also noticed this and found it very very strange.

It almost was a complete admission we lacked senior assistants.

[GVGjr]

He's the fitness guy right?

I'm not too fussed with that.

This is on the clubs site

Mathew Inness heads the Sport Science and Physical Performance team at the Bulldogs.

The former first-class cricketer joined the Bulldogs in 2014 as VFL High Performance Manager, before being elevated into the role of AFL Strength & Conditioning Coach in 2015.

He moved into the role of Physical Performance Manager for 2016, and Head of Sports Science and Physical Performance ahead of the 2021 season.

With more than 20 years of experience in elite sport, Inness brings perspectives from a broad range of roles including as a high performance manager, athlete, skills coach and sports scientist, across multiple sports.

Having completed a PhD, Inness has demonstrated an ability to be a thought leader in his field, presenting at international conferences and having research papers published in scientific journals.

Prior to arriving at the Kennel, Inness held similar roles at the Western Australian Cricket Association and Williamstown Football Club.


Is there anything that has you concerned GG?

[bornadog]

I also noticed this and found it very very strange.

It almost was a complete admission we lacked senior assistants.

Nah, soft cap issues. People doing roles they shouldn't be and just helping out.

AFL need to rectify the Football dept cap to pre covid, especially with the new deal.

[Grantysghost]

Nah, soft cap issues. People doing roles they shouldn't be and just helping out.

AFL need to rectify the Football dept cap to pre covid, especially with the new deal.

Not sure other clubs are doing that.

[Grantysghost]

Nah, soft cap issues. People doing roles they shouldn't be and just helping out.

AFL need to rectify the Football dept cap to pre covid, especially with the new deal.

We also have to realise, without the soft cap we would be stuffed.

[mjp]

We also have to realise, without the soft cap we would be stuffed.

Why?

[Grantysghost]

Why?

It's an equalisation measure that stops the rich clubs having more resources.

[jeemak]

It's an equalisation measure that stops the rich clubs having more resources.

How were things before the soft cap?

[Grantysghost]

How were things before the soft cap?

You're leading me somewhere, maybe just tell me what you think.

[mjp]

It's an equalisation measure that stops the rich clubs having more resources.

Yeah, I understand that but I'm pretty sure we have enough money these days to spend up as big as we want...

At some point giving assistant coaches an extra $30K per year matters for naught....I mean, sure, everyone would rather be paid $180K than $150K but is that really the difference between having Alistair Clarkson or David Noble?

Our coach has been complaining about the soft cap as the LIMIT on our spending, NOT the club's ability to actually fund the extra...

Like I said, I'm sure at some point it matters - I know in the 2000's there was a story that the West Coast players were complaining about the size of their spa/ice bath area - only seated space for 28 players (2x14). Meanwhile, the Melbourne players were doing ice baths in wheelie bins and each player was expected to bring ONE bag of ice each day to enable this to work...

No club is at that level now and I even think when COVID struck we were one of only 5x clubs that did NOT need to seek direct AFL funding support...

[GVGjr]

Brenton Sanderson would be a terrific coach for us to add. I've heard him a few times this year and he's a very good communicator.
He would be in the front of the crew for me to add and experienced senior assistant coach.

[Bulldog Joe]

The problem I see with adding an experienced senior assistant is Bevo accepting such a person.

We did have Montgomery and effectively dismissed him in August 2016 and there has been no genuine indication that Luke wants somebody at that level.

[bornadog]

The problem I see with adding an experienced senior assistant is Bevo accepting such a person.

We did have Montgomery and effectively dismissed him in August 2016 and there has been no genuine indication that Luke wants somebody at that level.

There were issues with Montgomery.

[GVGjr]

There were issues with Montgomery.

He's a fine coach though, not sure that the issues were but I do think he could be a great assistant back at the club.

[Bulldog Joe]

There were issues with Montgomery.

Were they real issues or just Bevo issues.

[Axe Man]

Brenton Sanderson would be a terrific coach for us to add. I've heard him a few times this year and he's a very good communicator.
He would be in the front of the crew for me to add and experienced senior assistant coach.

Has just been appointed coach of Balwyn, replacing Rocket Eade.

[GVGjr]

Has just been appointed coach of Balwyn, replacing Rocket Eade.

Thanks Axe, a missed opportunity.

[bornadog]

Were they real issues or just Bevo issues.

Not according to Rocket.

[Rocco Jones]

Not according to Rocket.

Which one?

I like Rocket but not sure he is a great authority on what it takes to be a modern day coach.

[bornadog]

Which one?

I like Rocket but not sure he is a great authority on what it takes to be a modern day coach.

Did you follow the replies - we are talking about Montgomery and the issues he had at the club.

[Rocco Jones]

Did you follow the replies - we are talking about Montgomery and the issues he had at the club.


OK I am confused.

You replied to whether issues were real or Bevo's issues by saying 'not according to Rocket'.

Which statement is that in relation to?

[bornadog]

OK I am confused.

You replied to whether issues were real or Bevo's issues by saying 'not according to Rocket'.

Which statement is that in relation to?

In relation to post #41 and post #43

[Axe Man]

In relation to post #41 and post #43

Sorry BAD but I'm with Rocco, your responses doesn't make sense to me either.

[azabob]

Sorry BAD but I'm with Rocco, your responses doesn't make sense to me either.

FWIW I thought BAD was referring to Montgomery.

[Axe Man]

FWIW I thought BAD was referring to Montgomery.

Yeah I get that but my question is the same as Rocco's at post #49 which BAD hasn't answered.

[azabob]

Yeah I get that but my question is the same as Rocco's at post #49 which BAD hasn't answered.

Ok, I’m tapping out of this one. ;)

[1eyedog]

So BAD is saying according to Rocket the issues are with Monty and not Bevo.

[hujsh]

So BAD is saying according to Rocket the issues are with Monty and not Bevo.

I figured that was what BAD meant but agree it wasn't worded in a super reader friendly way

[bornadog]

FWIW I thought BAD was referring to Montgomery.
Correct


Yeah I get that but my question is the same as Rocco's at post #49 which BAD hasn't answered.


I figured that was what BAD meant but agree it wasn't worded in a super reader friendly way

Apologies to Rocco, I didn't mean it to be rude


So BAD is saying according to Rocket the issues are with Monty and not Bevo.

Correct 1eyedog

[kruder]

Interesting that Caro on FC said that Essendon have had a crack at Bevo.

[bornadog]

Interesting that Caro on FC said that Essendon have had a crack at Bevo.

They have stated they want an experienced coach. So far knocked back by Lyon, Brad Scott, Clarkson, and are also contacting
Leon Cameron

[Boots]

Related: https://footyology.com.au/dogs-finals-demise-leaves-them-in-a-confusing-place/

[Bullies]

Interesting that Caro on FC said that Essendon have had a crack at Bevo. Yep this was around last week and was a monster deal by all accounts.

[azabob]

Cameron confirmed as Swans academy coach

[Bulldog4life]

Cameron confirmed as Swans academy coach

That Bummers job has a rotten stench about it.

[EasternWest]

That Bummers job has a rotten stench about it.

Probably just Stringer visiting the lockers.

[Nuggety Back Pocket]

I'd love Matty Boyd back in a coaching role.

Two of the best, Matthew Boyd and Joel Corey are now both with Fremantle.
Corey was highly regarded by Bont during his time at the WB, who along with Dale Morris were cut due to salary cuts.
Boyd and Morris were outstanding in our 2016 flag and both highly regarded as is Corey a Premiership player at Geelong.

[Go_Dogs]

Backline coach - ideally Luke Hodge or a similar "organiser".

Left field coaching idea - Shane Edwards. Very good football brain, I don't know how his communication skills are though

From the interviews I’ve seen, Edwards is a great communicator. Understated and intelligent.

[Swoop]

A lot has been made of our need to attract experience and I agree that we need to replace the loss of Hansen and King. If we did attract an experienced coach, where would you hope they took over? Backs, mids or forwards?

While our team lacks senior experience, I would argue that we also lack recently retired players with fresh ideas. These coaches can often have a good feel for the modern game, connect with players and provide new innovative ideas. There are a number of quality candidates that could be welcome additions to our team. Names such as Roughead, Mundy, Higgins, Shiels, Edwards, Geary and the Kennedys would all be possible targets.

The only other factor worth is considering is the fact that our staff have taken cuts and performed multiple roles due to covid. There may be an expectation amongst the group that their wages and reinstated before recruiting another high profile coach. I'm sure it's possible we can do both but some of those funds may be allocated to this area.

[GVGjr]

A lot has been made of our need to attract experience and I agree that we need to replace the loss of Hansen and King. If we did attract an experienced coach, where would you hope they took over? Backs, mids or forwards?

While our team lacks senior experience, I would argue that we also lack recently retired players with fresh ideas. These coaches can often have a good feel for the modern game, connect with players and provide new innovative ideas. There are a number of quality candidates that could be welcome additions to our team. Names such as Roughead, Mundy, Higgins, Shiels, Edwards, Geary and the Kennedys would all be possible targets.

The only other factor worth is considering is the fact that our staff have taken cuts and performed multiple roles due to covid. There may be an expectation amongst the group that their wages and reinstated before recruiting another high profile coach. I'm sure it's possible we can do both but some of those funds may be allocated to this area.

Smith and Webb are experienced coaches but Spangher was a first time appointment.
Most other teams have a stoppages coach which is an area that Webb has to look after at the moment as part of his midfield duties.
I think that this an area that we should look to invest in.

I wouldn't rule out a recently retired player as you suggest but it would ideally be one that has been working towards becoming an assistant coach along the way.

It's interesting that Marc Webb's wife is an assistant coach at our AFLW side, plenty of footy conversations at that house.

[comrade]

Bring back Matty Boyd.

[GVGjr]

Bring back Matty Boyd.

He'd be a great fit for us. I suspect we will be adding two coaches so you never know if he might be a chance.

[Bulldog Revolution]

He'd be a great fit for us. I suspect we will be adding two coaches so you never know if he might be a chance.

I doubt it - Id imagine hes just getting started with Freo and his family are probably getting into the rhythm of it

[GVGjr]

I doubt it - Id imagine hes just getting started with Freo and his family are probably getting into the rhythm of it

Granted it's a long shot but he might think if there are spots with us now the timing might be right before the family becomes too entrenched in Perth.
From a Melbourne base he has more clubs he could move to as well.

[AshMac]

Personally I’d like to see an experienced forward line coach and more than anything an ex senior coach (good one) to develop the younger players and act as a tactical game day coach.

I’m not 100% certain, but I think every team that’s won it since 16’ has had an experienced assistant coach

[Bullies]

A lot has been made of our need to attract experience and I agree that we need to replace the loss of Hansen and King. If we did attract an experienced coach, where would you hope they took over? Backs, mids or forwards?

While our team lacks senior experience, I would argue that we also lack recently retired players with fresh ideas. These coaches can often have a good feel for the modern game, connect with players and provide new innovative ideas. There are a number of quality candidates that could be welcome additions to our team. Names such as Roughead, Mundy, Higgins, Shiels, Edwards, Geary and the Kennedys would all be possible targets.

The only other factor worth is considering is the fact that our staff have taken cuts and performed multiple roles due to covid. There may be an expectation amongst the group that their wages and reinstated before recruiting another high profile coach. I'm sure it's possible we can do both but some of those funds may be allocated to this area. Not sure our present coaches would still be on pay cuts considering very few if any would command top dollar. Isn't part of the problem that a lot of the soft cap was going to Bevo. If you are looking at other clubs who all fall under the same soft cap in their football departments they don't seem to have issues fitting in their coaches who are experienced. Maybe something needs to give to gain something we need.

[bornadog]

Giants have let go Stevie Johnson and Amon Buchanan. Surely we look at Stevie as a forward coach?

[Bulldog Revolution]

Giants have let go Stevie Johnson and Amon Buchanan. Surely we look at Stevie as a forward coach?

He’d absolutely be worth a conversation with

[GVGjr]

aflratings.com.au
@aflratings
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Fremantle: Joel Corey has moved to a midfield coaching role, Josh Carr has departed the club

I thought Corey might have been a chance to return to us.

[Axe Man]

aflratings.com.au
@aflratings
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Fremantle: Joel Corey has moved to a midfield coaching role, Josh Carr has departed the club

I thought Corey might have been a chance to return to us.

He was from WA originally so is probably happy to be over there.

[azabob]

He was from WA originally so is probably happy to be over there.

He was happy at our club. Bemused we let him go.

[Axe Man]

He was happy at our club. Bemused we let him go.

Who should have been let go instead?

[Mitcha]

Brett Montgomery let go by Port Adelaide

[Grantysghost]

Brett Montgomery let go by Port Adelaide

Welcome to the Bulldogs Brett Montgomery.

A second return wow weeee.

[bornadog]

Welcome to the Bulldogs Brett Montgomery.

A second return wow weeee.

Won't happen

[Axe Man]

Won't happen

Not this again. :D

[azabob]

Who should have been let go instead?

Smith.

Corey had a really positive impact early with our young midfield group. To me it would've made sense to progress him to midfield coach.

[The bulldog tragician]

Josh Kennedy of Sydney has coaching aspirations. And a fine pedigree…

[GVGjr]

Brett Montgomery let go by Port Adelaide

How do you think Monty would go? Could he possibly return?

[bornadog]

Josh Kennedy of Sydney has coaching aspirations. And a fine pedigree…

We should talk to him

[GVGjr]

Josh Kennedy of Sydney has coaching aspirations. And a fine pedigree…

I wonder if he has done some work on that ambition.

[bornadog]

Hardwick now has two ex senior coaches as assistants. (Rutten and Teague)

This is what we should be looking at.

[Grantysghost]

Hardwick now has two ex senior coaches as assistants. (Rutten and Teague)

This is what we should be looking at.

What's the blocker?

Did they go to St Bede's?

[GVGjr]

Hardwick now has two ex senior coaches as assistants. (Rutten and Teague)

This is what we should be looking at.

It would be good to beef up the experience factor but I think we were priced out of it last season.
Bolton and Leppa would have added a lot to the Pies.

[Axe Man]

Josh Kennedy of Sydney has coaching aspirations. And a fine pedigree…

We should get both Josh Kennedys, and the one that used to play for the Socceroos. A whole assistant coaching panel of Josh Kennedys would be unstoppable.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

It would be good to beef up the experience factor but I think we were priced out of it last season.
Bolton and Leppa would have added a lot to the Pies.

How are we pricing ourselves out, whilst most other clubs are looking to add senior coaching experience to their group?

Where are we spending the $$ and have we got any form of ROI?

I suppose this is all part of the review.

[GVGjr]

How are we pricing ourselves out, whilst most other clubs are looking to add senior coaching experience to their group?

Where are we spending the $$ and have we got any form of ROI?

I suppose this is all part of the review.

It all comes down to how clubs divvied up the soft cap money. Some teams like Port the coaches apparently took significant pay cuts to keep the team together. Other teams didn't really cut into the sports science and physical development teams which was seen as more specialized and harder to cover and other teams just dropped the numbers as best they could.
I think many recruitment departments took hits.
With a reduced amount of money many assistant coaches could earn more elsewhere outside of the AFL so it was a thinner market when King and Hansen departed.

With an additional 500K in the cap it will certainly help bring back some established coaches and there should be more options for us.
How far that goes is an interesting question. Do we need to catch up some people that took the hit over the last 2 years or do we just look to land one or two assistant coaches and top up with a number of part time support staff.

When I check some of the other clubs coaching panels we see to be at least one coach light on when compared to other teams.

[Grantysghost]

We should get both Josh Kennedys, and the one that used to play for the Socceroos. A whole assistant coaching panel of Josh Kennedys would be unstoppable.

And John F Kennedy weekend at Bernie's style. (just trying to work wab into two posts today).

[Grantysghost]

It all comes down to how clubs divvied up the soft cap money. Some teams like Port the coaches apparently took significant pay cuts to keep the team together. Other teams didn't really cut into the sports science and physical development teams which was seen as more specialized and harder to cover and other teams just dropped the numbers as best they could.
I think many recruitment departments took hits.
With a reduced amount of money many assistant coaches could earn more elsewhere outside of the AFL so it was a thinner market when King and Hansen departed.

With an additional 500K in the cap it will certainly help bring back some established coaches and there should be more options for us.
How far that goes is an interesting question. Do we need to catch up some people that took the hit over the last 2 years or do we just look to land one or two assistant coaches and top up with a number of part time support staff.

When I check some of the other clubs coaching panels we see to be at least one coach light on when compared to other teams.

Why don't people ever take pay cuts to stay with us?

[GVGjr]

Why don't people ever take pay cuts to stay with us?

I'm sure some have. I think the timing of two key departures hurt us in what ended up being a thin market when we were shopping around.

[Mofra]

Josh Kennedy of Sydney has coaching aspirations. And a fine pedigree…
In a heartbeat. People who know him only have positive things to say

[DOG GOD]

In a heartbeat. People who know him only have positive things to say

Agree..he is a professional and would bring a great footy brain with him.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Why don't people ever take pay cuts to stay with us?
Chris Grant did but that was light years ago.

[EasternWest]

We should get both Josh Kennedys, and the one that used to play for the Socceroos. A whole assistant coaching panel of Josh Kennedys would be unstoppable.


And John F Kennedy weekend at Bernie's style. (just trying to work wab into two posts today).

I wonder if we can get JFK Jr to give up his resurgent political career and get on board with us.?

[Grantysghost]

I wonder if we can get JFK Jr to give up his resurgent political career and get on board with us.?

His judgement is clouded.

[SlimPickens]

Sam Edmund reporting this morning on SEN. That the dogs will announce a senior assistant to Bevo in the coming weeks.

[bornadog]

Sam Edmund reporting this morning on SEN. That the dogs will announce a senior assistant to Bevo in the coming weeks.

Will be interesting who it is.

[comrade]

Sam Edmund reporting this morning on SEN. That the dogs will announce a senior assistant to Bevo in the coming weeks.

It’s a positive development. From all reports, Geelong maxed out and paid the tax to have more coaches this year. In hindsight, we should have done the same.

It’s all well and good to have a clean balance sheet, but not at the cost of on field performance. I would rather make $0 profit a year if it means we’re spending money in the right areas to make us better on field (i.e more and better coaches, better strength and conditioning, more talent ID staff, more development staff).

Spruiking off field profits while you languish on field seems pretty laughable for a professional sporting club. If making money was the goal, Essendon would be respected.

[GVGjr]

Sam Edmund reporting this morning on SEN. That the dogs will announce a senior assistant to Bevo in the coming weeks.

I think Rohan Smith had that role this year so is it an indication he is moving on or just someone being put into the role?

[Grantysghost]

I think Rohan Smith had that role this year so is it an indication he is moving on or just someone being put into the role?

Spangher is experienced now.

[GVGjr]

It’s a positive development. From all reports, Geelong maxed out and paid the tax to have more coaches this year. In hindsight, we should have done the same.

It’s all well and good to have a clean balance sheet, but not at the cost of on field performance. I would rather make $0 profit a year if it means we’re spending money in the right areas to make us better on field (i.e more and better coaches, better strength and conditioning, more talent ID staff, more development staff).

Spruiking off field profits while you languish on field seems pretty laughable for a professional sporting club. If making money was the goal, Essendon would be respected.

Losing two experienced coaches was one too many to go into a season with a reduced structure.
You would hope the additional 500K nets us at least 2 additional footy people and probably someone in the fitness team.
I'd imagine the recruiting team is under resourced as well plus how many people took pay cuts?
The additional 500K won't go that far.

[MrMahatma]

Sam Edmund reporting this morning on SEN. That the dogs will announce a senior assistant to Bevo in the coming weeks.

That'd be a very positive move. Can't wait to hear who. I'm personally hoping they're experienced and from a recently successful system. (Rich, Syd, Geel... would've said Hawks but not sure now!)

[Grantysghost]

Losing two experienced coaches was one too many to go into a season with a reduced structure.
You would hope the additional 500K nets us at least 2 additional footy people and probably someone in the fitness team.
I'd imagine the recruiting team is under resourced as well plus how many people took pay cuts?
The additional 500K won't go that far.

Losing, or letting go?

We didn't need to let Hansen go. Being nice is great, but at the detriment of the entire team is insane.

Who has that say?

[GVGjr]

Losing, or letting go?

We didn't need to let Hansen go. Being nice is great, but at the detriment of the entire team is insane.

Who has that say?

King moving was probably good thing and I guess we did the right thing by Hansen but probably misread the coaching market and struggled to replace him.

[Grantysghost]

King moving was probably good thing and I guess we did the right thing by Hansen but probably misread the coaching market and struggled to replace him.

With the soft cap and coming off that sort of season it was a big mistake letting an opponent poach him.

[Jasper]

Who could we possibly attract? We need to get someone with at least 5 years experience at one of the stronger clubs.

[bornadog]

That'd be a very positive move. Can't wait to hear who. I'm personally hoping they're experienced and from a recently successful system. (Rich, Syd, Geel... would've said Hawks but not sure now!)

When we asked Leon to come to us, Grant did mention we were looking for a senior assistant, so this move is no surprise.

[GVGjr]

When we asked Leon to come to us, Grant did mention we were looking for a senior assistant, so this move is no surprise.

Did we ask Leon to come too us as an assistant coach or did we have something else in mind?

[comrade]

Is Matty Boyd ready?

[GVGjr]

Is Matty Boyd ready?

I wouldn't think so.

[bornadog]

Did we ask Leon to come too us as an assistant coach or did we have something else in mind?

I don't know what you are alluding too.

Reports in August


According to SEN's Sam Edmund, the Bulldogs, a club where Cameron played 172 games, have opened "informal discussions" with their 1993 best and fairest winner.

Edmund revealed Cameron's close relationship with football boss Chris Grant could play a part in the former Giants coach's reunion at Whitten Oval.


“The Western Bulldogs have had informal discussions with Leon Cameron about a role at the Kennel next year,” Edmund said.

[GVGjr]

I don't know what you are alluding too.

Reports in August

Nothing sinister, I was thinking more around Maple's departure.

The comment you have quoted isn't specific to the role we talked to him about.

[kruder]

BF on fire with the news, Brendon Lade is the next one....

[bornadog]

BF on fire with the news, Brendon Lade is the next one....

Next what?

[kruder]

Next what?

Assistant Coach. Thats the next rumour.

[bornadog]

Assistant Coach.

You mean for us?

[hujsh]

Here I was thinking it'd be Hirdy

[kruder]

You mean for us?

Yeah.

[kruder]

Here I was thinking it'd be Hirdy

I would take him to be honest.

[EasternWest]

I would take him to be honest.

And then drop him off at the pound, right?

[bornadog]

Here I was thinking it'd be Hirdy


I would take him to be honest.

That would be the day I burn my membership if it happened.

[GVGjr]

BF on fire with the news, Brendon Lade is the next one....

From the Saints. I'm not discounting it but I'd prefer someone from a better performed team but he is experienced.

[bornadog]

From the Saints. I'm not discounting it but I'd prefer someone from a better performed team but he is experienced.

He has coached at a few clubs:


Coaching career (2010–present)

After ending his 234-game AFL career in 2009, Lade immediately joined Richmond Football Club to become the ruck coach, joining former Port Adelaide teammate Damien Hardwick, Richmond's senior coach.[1]

He later became the midfield stoppage coach,[2] and held this position until the end of 2016, after which he returned to Port Adelaide as an assistant coach for the 2017 AFL season.

At the end of the 2018 season, Lade returned to Melbourne to become an assistant coach for St Kilda Football Club after two seasons with Port Adelaide.

[kruder]

From the Saints. I'm not discounting it but I'd prefer someone from a better performed team.

Yeah the same. It is really hard to judge assistant coach from the outside.

[Grantysghost]

From the Saints. I'm not discounting it but I'd prefer someone from a better performed team but he is experienced.

I really want a coach from a team that structures up in a modern way.

Freo, Demons, Tigers, Cats.

[Happy Days]

Can we get him to play for us instead? Lade hit the best hit out I've ever seen in my life in like 2006, 15m over his head to Shaun Burgoyne in stride. Have been trying to find it on YouTube ever since but with no luck.

Would it kill the AFL to make a Hollywood Taps compilation? They've gotta be at the bottom of their highlights mine by now.

Anyway. This is fine I guess but what is it with us and guys from St Kilda? They aren't exactly a model of excellence.

[Grantysghost]

Can we get him to play for us instead? Lade hit the best hit out I've ever seen in my life in like 2006, 15m over his head to Shaun Burgoyne in stride. Have been trying to find it on YouTube ever since but with no luck.

Would it kill the AFL to make a Hollywood Taps compilation? They've gotta be at the bottom of their highlights mine by now.

Anyway. This is fine I guess but what is it with us and guys from St Kilda? They aren't exactly a model of excellence.

Bains?

[GVGjr]

Yeah the same. It is really hard to judge assistant coach from the outside.

Well he is ambitious and threw his name into the hat for the Essendon role.
He seems like a good candidate.

[Grantysghost]

Well he is ambitious and threw his name into the hat for the Essendon role.
He seems like a good candidate.

He was part of the Tigers clean out in 2016.

As long as he's got some new ideas it can't be a bad thing.

[GVGjr]

He was part of the Tigers clean out in 2016.

As long as he's got some new ideas it can't be a bad thing.

He might have knocked back a chance to work under Adam Kingsley at GWS as well.

He certainly ticks the experienced box we might have been looking for.

[Hotdog60]

Monty and get a 2016 vibe going again. :)

[GVGjr]

Seems almost certain

Sam Edmund
@Sammy__Edmund
·
25m
As floated on @SENBreakfast
this morning, Brendon Lade has agreed to join the @westernbulldogs
as a senior assistant under Beveridge next season. Had been linked to the Essendon job and interviewed but is headed for Whitten Oval. Had been at St Kilda, but a good get for the Dogs

[Grantysghost]

Seems almost certain

Sam Edmund
@Sammy__Edmund
·
25m
As floated on @SENBreakfast
this morning, Brendon Lade has agreed to join the @westernbulldogs
as a senior assistant under Beveridge next season. Had been linked to the Essendon job and interviewed but is headed for Whitten Oval. Had been at St Kilda, but a good get for the Dogs

Like it.

[bornadog]

Good appointment, good to get some help for Bevo

[EasternWest]

Like it.

Yeah I'm happy with this.

[chef]

Got Lade. Nice.

[Grantysghost]

Got Lade. Nice.

Bevo got Lade.

Hopefully that's the end of the mo and the angry ness

[GVGjr]

Good appointment, good to get some help for Bevo

At 199cm he's a bit shorter than ideal but.......oh hang on wrong thread :)

[MrMahatma]

Bevo got Lade.

Hopefully that's the end of the mo and the angry ness

Hopefully someone nails a headline on this!!

[hujsh]

Bevo got Lade.

Hopefully that's the end of the mo and the angry ness

Incel Bevo is a frightening thought.

Can just imagine him sitting down a young Bailey Williams and pilling him with the 80/20 theory

[G-Mo77]

Pretty happy with that. Lets not stop there.

[Twodogs]

At 199cm he's a bit shorter than ideal but.......oh hang on wrong thread :)

Falls short of the BAD ideal height standard though.

[whythelongface]

Good to see Bevo get some much needed help. Don’t know much about Lade, as a coach, but at least he has experience

[Eastdog]

Good appointment. Brendan Lade’s experience will be good. Bring some fresh ideas in really assist Bevo who looked under some stress this season.

[angelopetraglia]

Lade. A decade plus in the system at three clubs with stints under Hardwick, Hinkley, Richardson and Ratten. Good experience.

[SlimPickens]

Will be a good appointment once official. I hope Bevo is open to what Lade can bring.

[kruder]

Seems almost certain

Sam Edmund
@Sammy__Edmund
·
25m
As floated on @SENBreakfast
this morning, Brendon Lade has agreed to join the @westernbulldogs
as a senior assistant under Beveridge next season. Had been linked to the Essendon job and interviewed but is headed for Whitten Oval. Had been at St Kilda, but a good get for the Dogs

Ok it’s official, BF is where i go for breaking news now Ha! Some of the posters have been on fire.

[azabob]

Will be a good appointment once official. I hope Bevo is open to what Lade can bring.

What can he bring Slim? Genuine question.

[Axe Man]

Hopefully Lade can help English take the next step with his ruck work as part of his role.

[bulldogtragic]

Hopefully some disenfranchised St Kilda players that are close to him (that are any good) want a trade to reunite with him.

[kruder]

Hopefully some disenfranchised St Kilda players that are close to him (that are any good) want a trade to reunite with him.

Hunter Clarke is a talent.

[kruder]

Lade could be very handy For English, Darcy and Lobb.

[bulldogtragic]

Hunter Clarke is a talent.

Want to start this?

I heard Lade is like a father figure to Hunter.

[macca]

Lade could be very handy For English, Darcy and Lobb.

I was thinking the same. Lade was a very good ruckman in his time. Marshall must have learnt a few things from him with his improvement, apart from being super talented. I hope he can improve Sweet the most out of all of them!

[SlimPickens]

What can he bring Slim? Genuine question.

A number of things. Very much a level/calming influence he’ll be a good sounding board for Bevo. He is sound strategically and will aid in keeping morale up around the place. I don’t think he is a shrinking violet so hopefully he will challenge Bevo to improve when needed.

[GVGjr]

A number of things. Very much a level/calming influence he’ll be a good sounding board for Bevo. He is sound strategically and will aid in keeping morale up around the place. I don’t think he is a shrinking violet so hopefully he will challenge Bevo to improve when needed.

This is such an important first step in restructuring our club.
Getting a good coaching team around Bevo will really solidify the club and Lade's experience and calming approach as you have highlighted will be great for our younger playing group.

The next step is to find a replacement for Chris Maple.

The club announced a complete review and overhaul of the footy department and I think we are going to swing the changes in a very measured way.

Looking forward to see who we can bring in to improve our football department.

[jeemak]

How would our club or any club react to Dani Laidley taking up a role?

Dani was an excellent coach in her own right, though whether she'd be ready to step into anything within clubland again is anyone's guess and she's possibly had too many years out of the game. However, if anyone understands pressure and how not to deal with it, but also fight it off and deal with it to come out the other side it would be her.

[hujsh]

How would our club or any club react to Dani Laidley taking up a role?

Dani was an excellent coach in her own right, though whether she'd be ready to step into anything within clubland again is anyone's guess and she's possibly had too many years out of the game. However, if anyone understands pressure and how not to deal with it, but also fight it off and deal with it to come out the other side it would be her.

My suspicion is mixed at best.

Even in a role that's not directly coaching (as you've said she's been out of the game for ages) I think there are too many neanderthal brained people involved in footy clubs for it to not be divisive.

I hope I'm wrong but at the same time have you heard of any AFL players even willing to come out as gay? I don't think we see trans people in the game before gay people (unless I'm wrong and this has happened already?)

That's not to say she wouldn't be an asset to a club in the right role. This is just my guess at the how individuals inside every club would react.

[jeemak]

My suspicion is mixed at best.

Even in a role that's not directly coaching (as you've said she's been out of the game for ages) I think there are too many neanderthal brained people involved in footy clubs for it to not be divisive.

I hope I'm wrong but at the same time have you heard of any AFL players even willing to come out as gay? I don't think we see trans people in the game before gay people (unless I'm wrong and this has happened already?)

That's not to say she wouldn't be an asset to a club in the right role. This is just my guess at the how individuals inside every club would react.

I'll be honest that while my post wasn't a stunt post it was designed to sense temperature around here, because by and large this place is pretty pragmatic.

That we could have a premiership player and long time coach transition genders without having a player come out as LGBTQ over the journey is pretty full on. Even surprising.

As for a future role for Dani, it would be the periphery more so than the industry itself that would struggle I think. Kids these days are so much more exposed to alternatives to traditional norms and accepting of them, and really don't give a shit compared to what they were ten to twenty years ago.

The players would just get on with it I reckon, especially if club leaders did.

As a coach Laidley was exceptionally good with a shit group of players over the journey for the most part. Surely there's a role for her if she wanted it.

[hujsh]

I'll be honest that while my post wasn't a stunt post it was designed to sense temperature around here, because by and large this place is pretty pragmatic.

That we could have a premiership player and long time coach transition genders without having a player come out as LGBTQ over the journey is pretty full on. Even surprising.

As for a future role for Dani, it would be the periphery more so than the industry itself that would struggle I think. Kids these days are so much more exposed to alternatives to traditional norms and accepting of them, and really don't give a shit compared to what they were ten to twenty years ago.

The players would just get on with it I reckon, especially if club leaders did.

As a coach Laidley was exceptionally good with a shit group of players over the journey for the most part. Surely there's a role for her if she wanted it.

I know it's probably different because it appears the players were Pacific Islanders and there's a conservative religious culture much less accepting of LGBTQ people in those communities but there were NRL players boycotting a match over a pride jersey. I think you would find a few players, probably from the country, might look to change clubs. If that came to pass I'd say good riddance but it's something clubs would probably take into account before bringing her or any highish profile trans people into the club.

What might be different is that there'd be a face to the issue if a player took a hard stance. It's easy to get upset at a jersey and call it virtue signaling (which technically yes it is but that doesn't make it bad) but harder to look someone in the eye and say "nah I can't be around you because you're living life wrong"

I might be convincing myself it's more possible than I initially thought as I write this all out.

[jeemak]

I know it's probably different because it appears the players were Pacific Islanders and there's a conservative religious culture much less accepting of LGBTQ people in those communities but there were NRL players boycotting a match over a pride jersey. I think you would find a few players, probably from the country, might look to change clubs. If that came to pass I'd say good riddance but it's something clubs would probably take into account before bringing her or any highish profile trans people into the club.

What might be different is that there'd be a face to the issue if a player took a hard stance. It's easy to get upset at a jersey and call it virtue signaling (which technically yes it is but that doesn't make it bad) but harder to look someone in the eye and say "nah I can't be around you because you're living life wrong"

I might be convincing myself it's more possible than I initially thought as I write this all out.

Interesting, because the more you've written the more I think it's possible.

We don't have the same demographics in our game and to be honest the players from the sticks probably wouldn't give a shit any more than those who are local to cities/ where the clubs are based.

If anything I would think the players coming through are sick of the old school mentality that is pervasive within the media, whether it comes down to a complete lack of understanding of what happens in their lives at club land, away from club land and generally with what happens day to day in the game. Speak to any of them (which I rarely do, but have) and they all think the older generation within the commentariat is completely cooked and full of shit. They just have to mollycoddle them because you know, legacy etc.

[Grantysghost]

I'd be fine with it.

Good coach, couldn't care less how she wants to live her life.

Be a bloody amazing story!

Caveat would be she's healthy enough to do it as clearly she's had some struggles that can't be ignored.

Trust woof to raise this brilliant discussion.

[GVGjr]

Has there been any news on if Rohan Smith is sticking with us?

[Stevo]

Lade will be a nice get for us providing Bevo embraces his stronger voice. From what I understand is that he isn't afraid to challenge the stronger personalities within a playing group if they aren't fully on board.

[Smads57]

With the BnF on tomorrow night, is it possible Smith/club might use the occasion to advise his leaving the club so he can be acknowledged by the attending supporters for his service?

[GVGjr]

With the BnF on tomorrow night, is it possible Smith/club might use the occasion to advise his leaving the club so he can be acknowledged by the attending supporters for his service?

Maybe Smads, they do like to sneak in an announcement or two that catches people by surprise.

[MrMahatma]

Lade will be a nice get for us providing Bevo embraces his stronger voice. From what I understand is that he isn't afraid to challenge the stronger personalities within a playing group if they aren't fully on board.

Why would Bevo NOT embrace it? What's there to suggest he isn't the one actually driving the decision to get a senior assistant? Or that he hasn't been up to his eyes in the recruitment of Lade?

[GVGjr]

Why would Bevo NOT embrace it? What's there to suggest he isn't the one actually driving the decision to get a senior assistant? Or that he hasn't been up to his eyes in the recruitment of Lade?

Agreed, Bevo wants to win and he will obviously listen to good suggestions.

[comrade]

I'd be fine with it.

Good coach, couldn't care less how she wants to live her life.

Be a bloody amazing story!

Caveat would be she's healthy enough to do it as clearly she's had some struggles that can't be ignored.

Trust woof to raise this brilliant discussion.

It’s a good point, it wasn’t long ago Laidley was struggling with addiction and resorting to some pretty shameful behaviour towards others.

I’ve read some of her book and that period when the photos were taken were obviously her absolute low point and was tied to transitioning and acceptance which she now seems to have worked her way through, so she may now find herself in a place to put herself through the mental stressors of professional footy. She would have to be very honest with herself that she’s up for it, as would any club considering it and rightfully so. But yeah, would be a pretty amazing story. ESPN 30 for 30 type stuff.

[1eyedog]

Wow Brendan Lade in is a massive coup and a seriously good get by the club. Glad we were so proactive in this space.

[1eyedog]

I'll be honest that while my post wasn't a stunt post it was designed to sense temperature around here, because by and large this place is pretty pragmatic.

That we could have a premiership player and long time coach transition genders without having a player come out as LGBTQ over the journey is pretty full on. Even surprising.

As for a future role for Dani, it would be the periphery more so than the industry itself that would struggle I think. Kids these days are so much more exposed to alternatives to traditional norms and accepting of them, and really don't give a shit compared to what they were ten to twenty years ago.

The players would just get on with it I reckon, especially if club leaders did.

As a coach Laidley was exceptionally good with a shit group of players over the journey for the most part. Surely there's a role for her if she wanted it.

Yeah I'd 100% support this. Dani has mentioned she'd like to get back into football again. Incredible football brain.

[Axe Man]

Lade lands at Bulldogs (https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/1229354/?fbclid=IwAR2Bx4nhxInn6siLBwIJ7C6Fqh766YuEksQ09cIh5vA0Y9LqX1 vcN5ftvn0)

The Western Bulldogs are delighted to announce that Brendon Lade will join the club as an assistant coach from 2023.

Lade has significant playing and coaching experience in the AFL and will take charge of the Bulldogs’ midfield brigade, where he will also work closely with Marc Webb, who will focus his attention on stoppages and opposition strategy, along with other key coaching program responsibilities.

A former Port Adelaide best and fairest and two-time All Australian, Lade played 234 games for the Power, winning a premiership in 2004.

The 46-year-old began his coaching journey in 2010 immediately following his retirement, joining Richmond as an assistant coach alongside former teammate Damien Hardwick.

After seven seasons at the Tigers, Lade returned to Port Adelaide for a further two seasons, taking the reigns as an assistant coach at Alberton.

In 2019, Lade was appointed as a Senior Assistant at the St Kilda Football Club, relocating his family back to Melbourne and coaching the forward and midfield lines across two seasons.

During 2022, Lade temporarily stepped into the senior coaching chair with Brett Ratten missing due to COVID, leading the Saints to a win over Gold Coast in Round 5.

Bulldogs Director of Football Chris Grant said Lade will be a fantastic addition to the Club’s coaching department.

“Brendon is a highly respected, experienced coach and person, having been involved in successful teams throughout his time in the industry as a player and now coach over the past 12 years,” Grant said.

“His extensive coaching and playing background will be invaluable for our players, whilst also bolstering our already highly-skilled coaching panel.

"We're very pleased to be adding additional and experienced resourcing to our existing coaching panel, which will only enhance the Club’s ability to continue to develop and educate our player group for next year and beyond.

“We’re excited to have Brendon on board and welcome him and his family to the Western Bulldogs.”

Lade said he was pleased to land at VU Whitten Oval and couldn’t wait to start with the Bulldogs.

“The Western Bulldogs continues to be a really successful club and I’m excited by this fresh opportunity,” Lade said.

“I’ve been extremely lucky to work at some amazing football clubs and hope my experience helps assist the great environment that Luke and the coaching group have created at the club.”

“I’m joining the Club at a very exciting time and I’m looking forward to meeting all the staff and players over the coming weeks.”

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Happy about this.

Is it interesting that he's basically midfield coach with Webb now looking after stoppages? Sounds like a similar set-up that we had when with Joel Corey?

Does it indicate we could still appoint a 'senior assistant'?

[bulldogtragic]

‘Bevolade’ era?

[Axe Man]

Happy about this.

Is it interesting that he's basically midfield coach with Webb now looking after stoppages? Sounds like a similar set-up that we had when with Joel Corey?

Does it indicate we could still appoint a 'senior assistant'?

It doesn't say Lade is the senior assistant but would it be strange for him to take a step backwards after being the senior assistant at St Kilda? Particularly as he has senior coaching aspirations having applied for the Essendon job.

[Happy Days]

I’d say in our set up in particular that the person charged with looking after the mids is the senior assistant.

I am actually happy with this. Hopefully as maybe a top 5 tap ruckman of the last 25 years he teaches Tim how to win a hit out as well as doing his normal job.

[Vred]

Has there been any news on if Rohan Smith is sticking with us?

One more year but hearing potentially in a new role, possibly back to development. I’ve been told we’re still looking for more coaches.

[jazzadogs]

One more year but hearing potentially in a new role, possibly back to development. I’ve been told we’re still looking for more coaches.

I think development is a great role for Bubba. Seems to fit his personality and skillset really well.

Would love Matt Boyd or similar for backline coach, and replace Spangher with someone experienced with coaching a modern forward line.

[Swoop]

Currently listening to Brenton Sanderson on AFL Trade Radio who was recently appointed as coach of Balwyn following Eade's departure.

It seems strange to me that someone with his level of experience and expertise has been lost to the AFL. We could do worse than appointing him as our backline coach.

[bornadog]

Currently listening to Brenton Sanderson on AFL Trade Radio who was recently appointed as coach of Balwyn following Eade's departure.

It seems strange to me that someone with his level of experience and expertise has been lost to the AFL. We could do worse than appointing him as our backline coach.

He is also good at strategy. I enjoy listening to him on Thursdays when he does the analysis of upcoming games.

Surely we can talk to him. Did Bevo coach at Collingwood at the same time as Sanderson?

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Currently listening to Brenton Sanderson on AFL Trade Radio who was recently appointed as coach of Balwyn following Eade's departure.

It seems strange to me that someone with his level of experience and expertise has been lost to the AFL. We could do worse than appointing him as our backline coach.

He also just floated Rayner for Dunkley on TR.

Get this man the Brisbane coaching gig.

[Grantysghost]

He also just floated Rayner for Dunkley on TR.

Get this man the Brisbane coaching gig.

Hey I floated that ages ago !

[Bullies]

Happy about this.

Is it interesting that he's basically midfield coach with Webb now looking after stoppages? Sounds like a similar set-up that we had when with Joel Corey?

Does it indicate we could still appoint a 'senior assistant'? Good to see Webb with the stoppages. Players really like him and he is very highly regarded in WA football. At least he now has a full pre season to prepare.

[GVGjr]

Currently listening to Brenton Sanderson on AFL Trade Radio who was recently appointed as coach of Balwyn following Eade's departure.

It seems strange to me that someone with his level of experience and expertise has been lost to the AFL. We could do worse than appointing him as our backline coach.

It's a shame he's not with one of the clubs. He has a balanced view and would be excellent with everyone in the playing group.

[GVGjr]

One more year but hearing potentially in a new role, possibly back to development. I’ve been told we’re still looking for more coaches.

Heard roughly the same. That would really strengthen our coaching team.

[azabob]

Hey I floated that ages ago !

Get this man the Brisbane coaching job!

[jazzadogs]

Left field - would be happy to have Joel Selwood involved in the club if he is looking to coach.

[F'scary]

Good. Lade was a pretty good player with a long career. He can give our players the low down on their individual performances as an equal. I always have that problem with coaches who have not had real AFL careers. Sorry. Bevo is a great coach in part because he eaked out a 130+ game career spread equally over three clubs.

[azabob]

Good. Lade was a pretty good player with a long career. He can give our players the low down on their individual performances as an equal. I always have that problem with coaches who have not had real AFL careers. Sorry. Bevo is a great coach in part because he eaked out a 130+ game career spread equally over three clubs.

Huh? What about Clarkson? 93 games as a player.

What about Hird - gun player, rubbish coach

[bornadog]

Left field - would be happy to have Joel Selwood involved in the club if he is looking to coach.

Ok, if we had more experienced coaches. But at this stage we need one more experienced backline coach

[jeemak]

Left field - would be happy to have Joel Selwood involved in the club if he is looking to coach.

Yes, 100%.

[Vred]

Ok, if we had more experienced coaches. But at this stage we need one more experienced backline coach

One of the most experienced backline coaches is sitting unemployed at the moment, we should be all over M. Scarlett like white on rice, he basically built the Geelong defense to what it is right now, even thanked by Scott and co during the GF acceptance speeches.

No brainer pick up for me.

[jeemak]

One of the most experienced backline coaches is sitting unemployed at the moment, we should be all over M. Scarlett like white on rice, he basically built the Geelong defense to what it is right now, even thanked by Scott and co during the GF acceptance speeches.

No brainer pick up for me.

I've always had an issue with someone who openly hates people unless he knows them, which is the attitude Scarlett reputedly has.

But it may be that he's not a *!*!*!*!wit anymore, however, not sure he'll want to come to us after what happened with BMac....?

[F'scary]

Huh? What about Clarkson? 93 games as a player.

What about Hird - gun player, rubbish coach

Clarkson, 93 game career, your example supports my point, mate, he fits in with what I said.

re Hird, I didn't say that experience playing at AFL senior level makes a good coach, just that I prefer coaches with that experience for our team. But they have to be good too.

[azabob]

Clarkson, 93 game career, your example supports my point, mate, he fits in with what I said.

re Hird, I didn't say that experience playing at AFL senior level makes a good coach, just that I prefer coaches with that experience for our team. But they have to be good too.

What do you mean by real AFL careers? That is confusing me and then referencing Bevo only having eeked out 130 games.

[Topdog]

What do you mean by real AFL careers? That is confusing me and then referencing Bevo only having eeked out 130 games.

yeah I dont get it either.

[Twodogs]

How would our club or any club react to Dani Laidley taking up a role?

Dani was an excellent coach in her own right, though whether she'd be ready to step into anything within clubland again is anyone's guess and she's possibly had too many years out of the game. However, if anyone understands pressure and how not to deal with it, but also fight it off and deal with it to come out the other side it would be her.




Depending on how she feels about it and where her head is at after her substance abuse problem (I saw the TV special a couple of Sunday nights ago and it looked like all was as good as could be expected on those fronts) I'd be all for getting her involved in a role at the club.

I can see it as a win/win. The club gets a good, experienced footy brain and Dani gets to do something she's good at.

[F'scary]

What do you mean by real AFL careers? That is confusing me and then referencing Bevo only having eeked out 130 games.

Played senior footy in the AFL. Both Clarkson and Beveridge had substantial careers. In Bevo's case, he was not a star but managed to keep slotting in a a new club every few years and getting games.

[hujsh]

Played senior footy in the AFL. Both Clarkson and Beveridge had substantial careers. In Bevo's case, he was not a star but managed to keep slotting in a a new club every few years and getting games.

So who do you have a problem with? Bmac? I can't think of any coaches without AFL experience aside from him

[Axe Man]

So who do you have a problem with? Bmac? I can't think of any coaches without AFL experience aside from him

Chris Fagan.

[F'scary]

So who do you have a problem with? Bmac? I can't think of any coaches without AFL experience aside from him

I think there is at least one or two others in the last 10 years as senior coaches. But senior assistant coaches? I don't know but I prefer them to have AFL playing experience too. I feel it helps them to really understand the players' situation and it helps the players to relate to and accept the coach. With other less senior coaches, I'm not fussed.

[hujsh]

I think there is at least one or two others in the last 10 years as senior coaches. But senior assistant coaches? I don't know but I prefer them to have AFL playing experience too. I feel it helps them to really understand the players' situation and it helps the players to relate to and accept the coach. With other less senior coaches, I'm not fussed.

Fair enough. The idea that the coach have experience playing at the same level of the game as the players is not exactly revolutionary and is so common I don't know if there's much evidence either way to refute or confirm the idea. Maybe in other sports.

[F'scary]

So who do you have a problem with? Bmac? I can't think of any coaches without AFL experience aside from him

as to Bmac: I understand his nickname was "the Hair Dryer." Maybe shouting at players was a compensating strategy? Let's ask Liam Jones when he signs on ;) :D

[F'scary]

Fair enough. The idea that the coach have experience playing at the same level of the game as the players is not exactly revolutionary and is so common I don't know if there's much evidence either way to refute or confirm the idea. Maybe in other sports.

I was just saying I was happy with the Lade appointment because he was well credentialled as a player. Also, he now has substantial assistant coaching experience, which adds to my feelings of satisfaction with the club's choice.

[GVGjr]

So who do you have a problem with? Bmac? I can't think of any coaches without AFL experience aside from him

Bolton and Brittain spring to mind as well

[Rocco Jones]

AFL is a pretty conservative league. Plenty of leagues that are huge overseas that have coaches who have not played at the highest leave. We are pretty reductive about it.

[Rocco Jones]

as to Bmac: I understand his nickname was "the Hair Dryer." Maybe shouting at players was a compensating strategy? Let's ask Liam Jones when he signs on ;) :D

I think it's a bit of a cycle. I don't agree with your views but perhaps many players do. Like IF you are being ignorant but enough players share the same view (i.e you gotta play AFL for me to listen), then I guess being wrong is right.

[F'scary]

I think it's a bit of a cycle. I don't agree with your views but perhaps many players do. Like IF you are being ignorant but enough players share the same view (i.e you gotta play AFL for me to listen), then I guess being wrong is right.

Viva diversity.

[macca]

Is there any chance/talk we are going to get a goal kicking coach and/or fwd line coach as well ?

Just asking, as I would like to see some improvement in these areas

[bornadog]

Is there any chance/talk we are going to get a goal kicking coach and/or fwd line coach as well ?

Just asking, as I would like to see some improvement in these areas

Spanger is the current forward line coach

[GVGjr]

Is there any chance/talk we are going to get a goal kicking coach and/or fwd line coach as well ?

Just asking, as I would like to see some improvement in these areas

They might be able to bring in a part time goal kicking coach providing there are some coaches who can teach it.

[1eyedog]

Yes, 100%.

Great for culture Joel's esteem jump 10 fold for me in his last two weeks of football.

[1eyedog]

I've always had an issue with someone who openly hates people unless he knows them, which is the attitude Scarlett reputedly has.

But it may be that he's not a *!*!*!*!wit anymore, however, not sure he'll want to come to us after what happened with BMac....?

Shouldn't be issue. Scarlett is a realist, it was a long time ago, not sure how emotionally connected he is / was with Bmac and we'll pay in real money!




...

[GVGjr]

Shouldn't be issue. Scarlett is a realist, it was a long time ago, not sure how emotionally connected he is / was with Bmac and we'll pay in real money!

...

Players and coaches understand that things move on quickly and with some limited options if you don't want to move interstate then you won't hold grudges.

[GVGjr]

Is there any chance/talk we are going to get a goal kicking coach and/or fwd line coach as well ?

Just asking, as I would like to see some improvement in these areas

I wonder or Tory Dickson has any coaching ambitions and if he has the skills to teach a few of our boys how to improve their set shot goal kicking accuracy? A 10% improvement in accuracy from Naughton, Marra and Weightman would be huge for the club.

[Axe Man]

GWS have signed Ben Hart and in talks with Brett Montgomery (who some have floated to return here).

Apparently we beat out GWS for Lade's signature (Kingsley a former teammate of Lade and Monty).

[Axe Man]

Matthew Scarlett has joined Barwon Heads as an assistant coach for those who were keen on bringing him back to the dogs.

[The Underdog]

Matthew Scarlett has joined Barwon Heads as an assistant coach for those who were keen on bringing him back to the dogs.

Tough to compete with that.

[Bulldog4life]

From AFL website:

Lade pondered a move to the Giants.
Brendon Lade said he gave serious consideration to following great mate Adam Kingsley to Greater Western Sydney before accepting a job as an assistant coach with the Western Bulldogs.


Lade, who played many of his 234 games at Port Adelaide alongside Kingsley, has coached at Richmond, Port and most recently St Kilda before his latest move.


Speaking on AFL Trade Radio on Friday morning, the 46-year-old said it was a family decision to remain in Melbourne, but not an easy one.

"We said no initially," Lade told AFL.com.au's Sarah Olle and Josh Gabelich.


"We sat on it for two weeks and did the pros and cons. My young fella is about to enter Year 12 at school in Melbourne next year and that was a big reason why.

"We just didn't know what it looked like, us being apart as a family, for a whole year. And what happens after that year as well.



"As much as I really wanted to go and help Adam and be part of his coaching journey, it just wasn't meant to be at that stage. It doesn't mean it won't be in the future."


Lade also presented for the Essendon senior coach position that was won by Brad Scott, but said he was excited about the prospect of working as Luke Beveridge's midfield coach in 2023. - Michael Whiting

[BornInDroopSt'54]

From AFL website:

Lade pondered a move to the Giants.
Brendon Lade said he gave serious consideration to following great mate Adam Kingsley to Greater Western Sydney before accepting a job as an assistant coach with the Western Bulldogs.


Lade, who played many of his 234 games at Port Adelaide alongside Kingsley, has coached at Richmond, Port and most recently St Kilda before his latest move.


Speaking on AFL Trade Radio on Friday morning, the 46-year-old said it was a family decision to remain in Melbourne, but not an easy one.

"We said no initially," Lade told AFL.com.au's Sarah Olle and Josh Gabelich.


"We sat on it for two weeks and did the pros and cons. My young fella is about to enter Year 12 at school in Melbourne next year and that was a big reason why.

"We just didn't know what it looked like, us being apart as a family, for a whole year. And what happens after that year as well.



"As much as I really wanted to go and help Adam and be part of his coaching journey, it just wasn't meant to be at that stage. It doesn't mean it won't be in the future."


Lade also presented for the Essendon senior coach position that was won by Brad Scott, but said he was excited about the prospect of working as Luke Beveridge's midfield coach in 2023. - Michael Whiting
I am not fussed that he openly states this about future possibilities, open, honest and loyal and proomises to be a great acquisition.
I like he states he "was excited about the prospect of working as Luke Beveridge's midfield coach". A professional of high order it seems with leadership skills.

[The Doctor]

What about David Noble to slot into Maple's role?

[GVGjr]

What about David Noble to slot into Maple's role?

He would be over qualified wouldn't he? He could handle Chris Grants role.
I'd take him if that is something he would consider.

[GVGjr]

I was somewhat hopeful that we could get Brenton Sanderson across to the Dogs as a coach (wishful thinking) but I see he has taken a role as director of sports at Mentone Grammer.

[Dogs 24/7]

What about David Noble to slot into Maple's role?

He's impressive. I don't think he would be interested but would be a great addition to the off field support team.

[bornadog]

I was somewhat hopeful that we could get Brenton Sanderson across to the Dogs as a coach (wishful thinking) but I see he has taken a role as director of sports at Mentone Grammer.

Also taking over from Rocket as coach of Balwyn

[GVGjr]

Mark McVeigh has decided not to stick with GWS.
You would have to think he could end up at Essendon.

[jeemak]

Mark McVeigh has decided not to stick with GWS.
You would have to think he could end up at Essendon.

Even given his boi Hird didn't get the gig?

[bulldogtragic]

Mark McVeigh has decided not to stick with GWS.
You would have to think he could end up at Essendon.

Why not coach his cousin Lachie Hunter, assuming that’s not Essendon. If so, then Essendon.

Might get the best out of him? Good family support, and teacher.

[kruder]

I was somewhat hopeful that we could get Brenton Sanderson across to the Dogs as a coach (wishful thinking) but I see he has taken a role as director of sports at Mentone Grammer.

Speaks well doesn't he?

[GVGjr]

Speaks well doesn't he?

Sure does plus he is excellent with his analysis. Players would respond well to his words.

[bornadog]

Mark McVeigh has decided not to stick with GWS.
You would have to think he could end up at Essendon.

Brett Montgomery has taken his spot at GWS

[AshMac]

Hoping Granty and Bevo took Rattan out for dinner last night….

[GVGjr]

Hoping Granty and Bevo took Rattan out for dinner last night….

Would you like to add Ratten to our coaching ranks?
After adding Brendan Lade I'm not sure we have a spot for him.

[Swoop]

If Smith moves into a developmental role, is there still a need to hire a defensive coach?

I'd assume we're also hunting to replace Maple.

[AshMac]

Would you like to add Ratten to our coaching ranks?
After adding Brendan Lade I'm not sure we have a spot for him.

Yes I would

[GVGjr]

With Brendan Lade in place I guess the focus is now on who will replace Chris Maple.
Has anyone heard if we have identified some candidates for this role?

[Bulldog4life]

With Brendan Lade in place I guess the focus is now on who will replace Chris Maple.
Has anyone heard if we have identified some candidates for this role?

Nope. I wonder if Ratten is a chance?

[GVGjr]

Nope. I wonder if Ratten is a chance?

He might be a more boots on the ground type than administrator.

[Bulldog4life]

He might be a more boots on the ground type than administrator.

True. Would be an asset somewhere in the coaching ranks.

[Mofra]

The Rocca brothers?
Anthony for forward structure, Sav as (part time) kicking coach.

Anthony got a late pick (Larkey) in a terrible team up and going. Sav is the best kicking coach in the country.

[Axe Man]

The Rocca brothers?
Anthony for forward structure, Sav as (part time) kicking coach.

Anthony got a late pick (Larkey) in a terrible team up and going. Sav is the best kicking coach in the country.

And they can make toasted sandwiches for the players lunches.

I assume if any assistants were leaving they would have announced it by now. Since we have already added a coach I can't see any more joining, other than a replacement for Maple's position.

[bulldogtragic]

We've done well from taking off field professionals from St Kilda. Bevo, Bains and now Lade. Ratten to replace Maple with footy/coaching experience at Melbourne, (Norwood), Carlton, Hawthorn and St Kilda is a wealth of experience.

I hope we'd be asking the question of him.