What is obvious is apparently NOT obvious to Dunks.

[mjp]

To be fair, I don't 'know' what Dunks is actually thinking or the reason behind his trade request. But it does SEEM like a big part of it is because he wants to end the mid-fwd role and become a 'full-time mid'...whatever that means.

You want to know something?

He will go to Brisbane and he will play the 'Josh Dunkley' role. Which is to be a mid who is excellent at winning contested possession, hyper competitive, willing to chase and tackle, good hand skills but average kicking skills...oh yeah, and he can go forward and kick a goal or two.

He will play EXACTLY the same role for the Lions as he has played for us.

This scenario plays out over and over again. Players who are in and out of the side at one club...so they go to another club for 'greater opportunity' and end up being in and out of the side. Hello there, Tim O'Brien...I think that was your music. For those who want to become a full-time mid after spending the majority of time playing at half-back or half-forward...well, they are going to play half-back or half-forward at their next club. And hi there Zac Williams, I think that's you're music.

I know it is in the nature of every player to move forward with confidence about what is going to happen next - but sometimes to see the future you need to look at the past and say "What has happened EVERY SINGLE OTHER TIME this scenario has played out".

Is Lachie Neale going forward? Umm. NOPE. Is Hugh McCluggage? Maybe that's the plan, but he will be no good at it so, hey, you know what? Dunks - just head down forward as part of your rotation mate...yeah, I mean, of course we'll get you back in there soon...it's just for 15 minutes...it's just for this week....

This is exactly what is going to happen.

[Happy Days]

I’m convinced that he’s asking to be traded to be involved in a big trade. That’s what Lebron did, that’s what his buddy Antonio Brown did, it’s what big sports stars like those guys and Josh do.

[mjp]

I’m convinced that he’s asking to be traded to be involved in a big trade. That’s what Lebron did, that’s what his buddy Antonio Brown did, it’s what big sports stars like those guys and Josh do.

Well, Antonio Brown was traded twice under the "Behaving like a knob" trade exemption...not sure they were 'BIG' trades as the Steelers Fans and Raiders Fans (he never even PLAYED for Oakland) were desperate to be rid of him.

He can play football though.

[hujsh]

He obviously just wants to be closer to his sister. A very normal thing that normal people do, normally.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

He obviously just wants to be closer to his sister. A very normal thing that normal people do, normally.

But how will he go maintaining a long distance bromance!??

[Grantysghost]

He obviously just wants to be closer to his sister. A very normal thing that normal people do, normally.

Is this a Gippsland thing?

Axeman?

[bornadog]

I agree with the OP with the exception being, when players get older and may have to change their role. eg, Matty Boyd - mid to HBF

I don't know what Dunks is thinking his role will be at Lions.

[azabob]

But how will he go maintaining a long distance bromance!??

I think Treloar is in for a rude shock; hopefully his eyes are wide open.

[Axe Man]

Is this a Gippsland thing?

Axeman?

I don't know, I'm closer to the city than I am to Yarram. Maybe he is just moving up to Queensland to look out for his BFFs wife. Nothing weird about that either.

[1eyedog]

To be fair, I don't 'know' what Dunks is actually thinking or the reason behind his trade request. But it does SEEM like a big part of it is because he wants to end the mid-fwd role and become a 'full-time mid'...whatever that means.

You want to know something?

He will go to Brisbane and he will play the 'Josh Dunkley' role. Which is to be a mid who is excellent at winning contested possession, hyper competitive, willing to chase and tackle, good hand skills but average kicking skills...oh yeah, and he can go forward and kick a goal or two.

He will play EXACTLY the same role for the Lions as he has played for us.

This scenario plays out over and over again. Players who are in and out of the side at one club...so they go to another club for 'greater opportunity' and end up being in and out of the side. Hello there, Tim O'Brien...I think that was your music. For those who want to become a full-time mid after spending the majority of time playing at half-back or half-forward...well, they are going to play half-back or half-forward at their next club. And hi there Zac Williams, I think that's you're music.

I know it is in the nature of every player to move forward with confidence about what is going to happen next - but sometimes to see the future you need to look at the past and say "What has happened EVERY SINGLE OTHER TIME this scenario has played out".

Is Lachie Neale going forward? Umm. NOPE. Is Hugh McCluggage? Maybe that's the plan, but he will be no good at it so, hey, you know what? Dunks - just head down forward as part of your rotation mate...yeah, I mean, of course we'll get you back in there soon...it's just for 15 minutes...it's just for this week....

This is exactly what is going to happen.

Agreed. Berry is a better player than Dunkley for mine as well because he is actually also a good stopper. Dunks is too useful forward not to be used there regularly and Brisban's midfield also runs too deep.

Man I hope we win another flag without him inside the next 1-3.

[EasternWest]

Maybe he hates Beveridge?

[MrMahatma]

I actually haven't read what his reasons are anywhere. Not quoted.

[Bulldog4life]

I actually haven't read what his reasons are anywhere. Not quoted.

I have. For family reasons. His fiance goes there regularly when not playing in SA. Her parents live there. His sister is there too plus his parents holiday regularly in Queensland. Would like a bet that Tipah ends up playing netball there next year too.

[bornadog]

I have. For family reasons. His fiance goes there regularly when not playing in SA. Her parents live there. His sister is there too plus his parents holiday regularly in Queensland. Would like a bet that Tipah ends up playing netball there next year too.

nah, his motivation is more money x 6 years

[Rocket Science]

I think Treloar is in for a rude shock; hopefully his eyes are wide open.

https://i.ibb.co/mJvTQZK/FRIENDZZZ.png (https://ibb.co/nr3mhdy)

Colour me unkind but the nauseating bromance had a whiff of desperate convenience about it from the get-go.

[bornadog]

https://i.ibb.co/mJvTQZK/FRIENDZZZ.png (https://ibb.co/nr3mhdy)

Colour me unkind but the nauseating bromance had a whiff of desperate convenience about it from the get-go.

Missed these RS.

I agree the bromance is a strange one.

Remember the bromance between Johnno and Smith. They even lived next door to each other and had a connecting door in the back side fence. In the end Johnno moved down to Torquay. Got to be careful with a bromance.

[Mofra]

Agreed. Berry is a better player than Dunkley for mine as well because he is actually also a good stopper. Dunks is too useful forward not to be used there regularly and Brisban's midfield also runs too deep.

Man I hope we win another flag without him inside the next 1-3.
Cam Raynor will demand more midfield minutes too. Beast who is coming off an ACL who is about to get another pre-season under his belt.
Dev Robertson either gets minutes, or considers a club that 'promises' him more midfield time (hello Eagles)

We haven't even considered the ongoing development of Ashcroft & Fletcher. Ashcroft is a freak who may even get rotations in 2023, let alone after that.

And all of this assumes Zorko doesn't spend a minute in the middle, which is no guarantee either.

[Grantysghost]

Cam Raynor will demand more midfield minutes too. Beast who is coming off an ACL who is about to get another pre-season under his belt.
Dev Robertson either gets minutes, or considers a club that 'promises' him more midfield time (hello Eagles)

We haven't even considered the ongoing development of Ashcroft & Fletcher. Ashcroft is a freak who may even get rotations in 2023, let alone after that.

And all of this assumes Zorko doesn't spend a minute in the middle, which is no guarantee either.

If we could get Rayner home that would be some magic trick.
Why not shove a massive deal under his nose. He's a western suburbs boy.

[G-Mo77]

If we could get Rayner home that would be some magic trick.
Why not shove a massive deal under his nose. He's a western suburbs boy.

That's it right there. I don't think they can compensate us properly with picks. We get in the ear of a player there and we have a bit more coming our way. We were ballsy with the Tom Boyd/Griffen deal lets make a counter strike again.

[bornadog]

That's it right there. I don't think they can compensate us properly with picks. We get in the ear of a player there and we have a bit more coming our way. We were ballsy with the Tom Boyd/Griffen deal lets make a counter strike again.

Jack Payne, 23 years old, 197cm - CHB

[hujsh]

If we could get Rayner home that would be some magic trick.
Why not shove a massive deal under his nose. He's a western suburbs boy.

That would be some coup. Part of me is hesitant because it's not addressing our other needs and continuing to stack the mids but he's also a great age to take over for Adz or Libba as they wind down.

[hujsh]

Jack Payne, 23 years old, 197cm - CHB

Now hang on there BAD. That looks about 3 cm short to be a REAL CHB. I not so sure about that move

[Mofra]

That would be some coup. Part of me is hesitant because it's not addressing our other needs and continuing to stack the mids but he's also a great age to take over for Adz or Libba as they wind down.
He'd play more mid/forward, but I doubt he could be tempted. Very invested with Brissie

[bornadog]

Now hang on there BAD. That looks about 3 cm short to be a REAL CHB. I not so sure about that move

he can wear platforms :D

[Grantysghost]

He'd play more mid/forward, but I doubt he could be tempted. Very invested with Brissie

I do have an in, tenuous but my nephew was at school with him and in the same friend circle.

I'll see if he can covertly get some goss.

Edit : No, no he can not.

[Rocket Science]

If we could get Rayner home that would be some magic trick.
Why not shove a massive deal under his nose. He's a western suburbs boy.

Unlike Dunks who concluded his season with shout-outs to his sponsors and army of stylists ...

https://i.ibb.co/527mrzV/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-29-pm.png (https://ibb.co/stBnKDr)

https://i.ibb.co/XXhhZ37/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-45-pm.png (https://ibb.co/2qDD7sv)

... Rayner did the unthinkable and thanked his teammates, so I don't really fancy our chances.

https://i.ibb.co/6t58Mkv/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-06-pm.png (https://ibb.co/093K7xB)


Unlock the comments Josh you coward.

[Grantysghost]

Unlike Dunks who concluded his season with shout-outs to his sponsors and army of stylists ...

https://i.ibb.co/527mrzV/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-29-pm.png (https://ibb.co/stBnKDr)

https://i.ibb.co/XXhhZ37/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-45-pm.png (https://ibb.co/2qDD7sv)

... Rayner did the unthinkable and thanked his teammates, so I don't really fancy our chances.

https://i.ibb.co/6t58Mkv/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-06-pm.png (https://ibb.co/093K7xB)


Unlock the comments Josh you coward.


Cam decided to #bemorebrisbane

The boy from Taylor's Hill.

You would think after getting over looked by his Dad's team he'd show more love to the team that wanted him.

Bah!

[The bulldog tragician]

Unlike Dunks who concluded his season with shout-outs to his sponsors and army of stylists ...

https://i.ibb.co/527mrzV/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-29-pm.png (https://ibb.co/stBnKDr)

https://i.ibb.co/XXhhZ37/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-45-pm.png (https://ibb.co/2qDD7sv)

... Rayner did the unthinkable and thanked his teammates, so I don't really fancy our chances.

https://i.ibb.co/6t58Mkv/Screen-Shot-2022-09-20-at-6-25-06-pm.png (https://ibb.co/093K7xB)


Unlock the comments Josh you coward.

Jarrod Berry has a little dog emoticon in his response to Rayner… hang on, could it have a hidden meaning?

[Flamethrower]

It's always about the money.

[jeemak]

So the consensus is Josh has been honeydicked into going to Brisbane without his girlfriend actually going to Brisbane.

Nothing could possibly go wrong......

[Grantysghost]

Jarrod Berry has a little dog emoticon in his response to Rayner… hang on, could it have a hidden meaning?

I think it's an off colour blokesy sledge.

[Grantysghost]

So the consensus is Josh has been honeydicked into going to Brisbane without his girlfriend actually going to Brisbane.

Nothing could possibly go wrong......

Is it possible he realises his ability and has created a narrative that has elevated his worth to a point where he's just secured his footy future?

I mean, if you're viewing this as a job it's pretty good business.

[azabob]

So the consensus is Josh has been honeydicked into going to Brisbane without his girlfriend actually going to Brisbane.

Nothing could possibly go wrong......

Maybe you could tell us? You are the puppet master!

[ratsmac]

If we could get Rayner home that would be some magic trick.
Why not shove a massive deal under his nose. He's a western suburbs boy.

That's what I would do. He reminds me of Petracca early in his career. Teased everyone with potential then exploded once he matured. If we could pry him loose before he finds his potential. I can't see it happening but I couldn't see Tom Boyd joining us either at the time

[Topdog]

Add another one that may not get the obvious

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/09/20/midfielder-open-to-a-trade-out-of-richmond/


But Graham spent large portions of games this year on a half-forward flank despite the Tigers’ skinny midfield and is said to be gettable if another club puts its cards on the table with an attractive offer.