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mjp
16-05-2023, 09:41 AM
...he played Bevo in the RUCK in the 1994 Reserves grand final on the McGinlay/Boyd podcast might have explained more about the past 9 years of our AFL experience in 30-seconds than countless articles and talking head shows ever could.

Apparently Bevo 'DOMINATED' around the ground, was like an extra midfielder and a key to the outcome.

So - there ya go Dunks. Bevo just looked at you and saw....HIMSELF.

Mofra
16-05-2023, 09:47 AM
Incredible.

Who were Bevo's opponents?

EasternWest
16-05-2023, 09:49 AM
Incredible.

Who were Bevo's opponents?

Lilliputians.

GVGjr
16-05-2023, 09:54 AM
He's such an interesting character and he interviews so well.
Really enjoyed this interview.

mjp
16-05-2023, 10:16 AM
He's such an interesting character and he interviews so well.
Really enjoyed this interview.

It was fantastic. He's a different unit but is so comfortable in his skin...had to laugh when he spoke about being "comfortable in front of the camera's" during the YOTD season (96). Like, no sh!t!!

GVGjr
16-05-2023, 10:38 AM
One of the best interviews in what is a very good group.
Plough is a great thinker and historian of his time with us.

ledge
16-05-2023, 10:47 AM
Got to know him a little and he is such a top bloke. A people’s person , no arrogance and will talk to anyone . Proof being me :-)

Grantysghost
16-05-2023, 10:53 AM
...he played Bevo in the RUCK in the 1994 Reserves grand final on the McGinlay/Boyd podcast might have explained more about the past 9 years of our AFL experience in 30-seconds than countless articles and talking head shows ever could.

Apparently Bevo 'DOMINATED' around the ground, was like an extra midfielder and a key to the outcome.

So - there ya go Dunks. Bevo just looked at you and saw....HIMSELF.

You know who was the puppet master of that interview right?

Some strange fella on here who runs the place.

GVG himself. Wonder how much money he made?

I'll have to have a listen.

1eyedog
16-05-2023, 10:55 AM
Terry was a bit of a changing of the guard for us (or at least for me and my family), following the YOTD doco. Everything that I had grown up with in the 70s / 80s / 90s steeled me as a Bulldogs supporter, we were irrelevant even when we were good. Everyone knew that we would be put back in our place, we'd never win a flag. We were a laughing stock but after that doco and what came directly after really did lift us out of the quagmire. There was a comment in there at a board meeting which went along the lines of we're not going to accept mediocrity anymore and why not us or something to that extent and I believe we have held true to that since 96. Sure there were more dark days under Rohde to follow but there wasn't the decade long pain we'd witnessed previously.

Terry played such a big part raising this club off its knees in more ways than one. I can't think of another coach since Whitten who refused to accept that the Bulldogs role in the VFL / AFL was to be the perenially down-trodden easy beats of the competition. He reignited the heart of the club and my family and I will be forever be grateful to him for it, despite the way he departed.

EasternWest
16-05-2023, 11:07 AM
Terry was a bit of a changing of the guard for us (or at least for me and my family), following the YOTD doco. Everything that I had grown up with in the 70s / 80s / 90s steeled me as a Bulldogs supporter, we were irrelevant even when we were good. Everyone knew that we would be put back in our place, we'd never win a flag. We were a laughing stock but after that doco and what came directly after really did lift us out of the quagmire. There was a comment in there at a board meeting which went along the lines of we're not going to accept mediocrity anymore and why not us or something to that extent and I believe we have held true to that since 96. Sure there were more dark days under Rohde to follow but there wasn't the decade long pain we'd witnessed previously.

Terry played such a big part raising this club off its knees in more ways than one. I can't think of another coach since Whitten who refused to accept that the Bulldogs role in the VFL / AFL was to be the perenially down-trodden easy beats of the competition. He reignited the heart of the club and my family and I will be forever be grateful to him for it, despite the way he departed.

Spot on mate. Well said.

Bulldog Revolution
16-05-2023, 11:34 AM
Terry was a bit of a changing of the guard for us (or at least for me and my family), following the YOTD doco. Everything that I had grown up with in the 70s / 80s / 90s steeled me as a Bulldogs supporter, we were irrelevant even when we were good. Everyone knew that we would be put back in our place, we'd never win a flag. We were a laughing stock but after that doco and what came directly after really did lift us out of the quagmire. There was a comment in there at a board meeting which went along the lines of we're not going to accept mediocrity anymore and why not us or something to that extent and I believe we have held true to that since 96. Sure there were more dark days under Rohde to follow but there wasn't the decade long pain we'd witnessed previously.

Terry played such a big part raising this club off its knees in more ways than one. I can't think of another coach since Whitten who refused to accept that the Bulldogs role in the VFL / AFL was to be the perenially down-trodden easy beats of the competition. He reignited the heart of the club and my family and I will be forever be grateful to him for it, despite the way he departed.

Yeah fine words 1-eye

Wallace's half year in 1996 really set up the team to rocket up the ladder in 1997

He lifted the standards and professionalism, he was innovative with the game plan, he built around some great young talent, but supplemented it with kids, and good state leaguers (Monty, Powell etc) and as you note he pushed the club to be better, more attractive, more open to the media, better at selling itself, and aspiring to more.

He deserves to be remembered as one of the all-time great Bulldog coaches

Sedat
16-05-2023, 11:43 AM
Terry was a bit of a changing of the guard for us (or at least for me and my family), following the YOTD doco. Everything that I had grown up with in the 70s / 80s / 90s steeled me as a Bulldogs supporter, we were irrelevant even when we were good. Everyone knew that we would be put back in our place, we'd never win a flag. We were a laughing stock but after that doco and what came directly after really did lift us out of the quagmire. There was a comment in there at a board meeting which went along the lines of we're not going to accept mediocrity anymore and why not us or something to that extent and I believe we have held true to that since 96. Sure there were more dark days under Rohde to follow but there wasn't the decade long pain we'd witnessed previously.

Terry played such a big part raising this club off its knees in more ways than one. I can't think of another coach since Whitten who refused to accept that the Bulldogs role in the VFL / AFL was to be the perenially down-trodden easy beats of the competition. He reignited the heart of the club and my family and I will be forever be grateful to him for it, despite the way he departed.
100% spot on. I hated the way he left the club but he fundamentally changed our entire attitude and identity ever since he became senior coach. We had some success under Malthouse and Wheeler but the attitude was more like we were lucky to be in finals, whereas Plough demanded and expected us to make finals.

bornadog
16-05-2023, 12:10 PM
Really enjoyed this episode and I was a big fan of Wallet as both a player and coach. Like Sedat said, I hated the way he left the club, but we were in turmoil financially at the time and he got a better offer. (which didn't work out)

If it wasn't for Campbell Rose, we would have struggled to survive. As one measure to cut costs, Campbell asked players and coaches to take a pay cut which Terry wasn't keen to do.

Terry was also a very good player for us and from memory won a B&F in his first or second year. His coaching methods were innovative at the time and he introduced a number of different things, like the warm up 20 minutes before the game. Teams in the past warmed up in the rooms then ran on to the ground for the start of the match.

A great era that set us up for the future.

mjp
16-05-2023, 12:23 PM
Terry was also a very good player for us and from memory won a B&F in his first or second year.

Won 2x B&F's as a player.

Axe Man
16-05-2023, 12:39 PM
Terry was also a very good player for us and from memory won a B&F in his first or second year.


Won 2x B&F's as a player.

You're both right - won the B&F in 88 and 89 - his first and second years at the club.

D Mitchell
16-05-2023, 02:03 PM
Terry was a bit of a changing of the guard for us (or at least for me and my family), following the YOTD doco. Everything that I had grown up with in the 70s / 80s / 90s steeled me as a Bulldogs supporter, we were irrelevant even when we were good. Everyone knew that we would be put back in our place, we'd never win a flag. We were a laughing stock but after that doco and what came directly after really did lift us out of the quagmire. There was a comment in there at a board meeting which went along the lines of we're not going to accept mediocrity anymore and why not us or something to that extent and I believe we have held true to that since 96. Sure there were more dark days under Rohde to follow but there wasn't the decade long pain we'd witnessed previously.

Terry played such a big part raising this club off its knees in more ways than one. I can't think of another coach since Whitten who refused to accept that the Bulldogs role in the VFL / AFL was to be the perenially down-trodden easy beats of the competition. He reignited the heart of the club and my family and I will be forever be grateful to him for it, despite the way he departed.

A very good post, 9th like. Honourable mention to Mick Malthouse for his influence in not accepting mediocrity and ending the culture of me-players.

Rocket Science
16-05-2023, 02:13 PM
Incredible.

Who were Bevo's opponents?

Bless the minds behind FNWB who've uploaded this tilt in its glorious entirety (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpt5mPDrw9I).

https://i.ibb.co/WgcLB9R/Screen-Shot-2023-05-16-at-2-03-14-pm.png (https://ibb.co/zGSzPct)

https://i.ibb.co/YWxNQvY/Screen-Shot-2023-05-16-at-2-03-29-pm.png (https://ibb.co/cvjy3zM)

Fondly recall working part-time behind a bar in a corporate lounge on the day and finding every excuse imaginable to avoid actual work while the ressies made history.

Sedat
16-05-2023, 02:23 PM
Bless the minds behind FNWB who've uploaded this tilt in its glorious entirety (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpt5mPDrw9I).

https://i.ibb.co/WgcLB9R/Screen-Shot-2023-05-16-at-2-03-14-pm.png (https://ibb.co/zGSzPct)

https://i.ibb.co/YWxNQvY/Screen-Shot-2023-05-16-at-2-03-29-pm.png (https://ibb.co/cvjy3zM)
Farken Ch 7 couldn't spell Daniel Hargreaves' name correctly :rolleyes:

macca
16-05-2023, 03:09 PM
One of the best interviews in what is a very good group.
Plough is a great thinker and historian of his time with us.

I give him credit for the flood , it was a tactic used to beat a rampant essendon that finals bound year of them, I can't recall what year.

But loved seeing the attacking footy our team played during his era: Eagleton, Nathan Brown, and even Scotty West kicking bags in his early years.

DISHLICKERS
16-05-2023, 03:12 PM
100% spot on. I hated the way he left the club but he fundamentally changed our entire attitude and identity ever since he became senior coach. We had some success under Malthouse and Wheeler but the attitude was more like we were lucky to be in finals, whereas Plough demanded and expected us to make finals.

Many felt the same with regards to the way Wallace left so much so that the club never allowed a good bye game to go ahead for him. There was a chance that had the good bye game gone ahead for Wallace there would have been trouble from the stands.

There are many also that did not like the role Wallace played in the outing of Joyce.

GVGjr
16-05-2023, 03:16 PM
You know who was the puppet master of that interview right?

Some strange fella on here who runs the place.

GVG himself. Wonder how much money he made?

I'll have to have a listen.

:) Having seen him interviewed at the East West Legends night a few years back I was confident he was ideal for the podcast.
I might be bold and suggest two others. :)

Sedat
16-05-2023, 03:35 PM
Eagleton, Nathan Brown, and even Scotty West kicking bags in his early years.
Out of necessity (no disrespect to Loaf and Cooky, but we weren't blessed with long-term key forwards), he was very innovative with regard to small forward rotations inside F50 to isolate and exploit mis-matches in our favour. In addition to the 3 players mentioned, he also got Rohan Smith, Simon Garlick and of course Brad Johnson into the rotations and they all kicked big bags up forward.

Apart from Darren Jarman (:(), no other coaches did this consistently before Plough. Unfortunately Plough's penchant for unpredictability became predictable in 2001 and 2002.

He was an excellent, innovative coach in his prime.

Mofra
16-05-2023, 03:49 PM
First coach to bring out the footballs during pre-season before December too IIRC

azabob
16-05-2023, 03:53 PM
My favourite era of going to the footy was 1997/1998

Lunch on Lygon street first; wonder down to the ground.

Game plan was full on attack and more often than not we'd have a ten goal quarter and blow teams out of the water.

Was such an exciting time to support the dogs.

angelopetraglia
16-05-2023, 04:28 PM
My favourite era of going to the footy was 1997/1998

Lunch on Lygon street first; wonder down to the ground.

Game plan was full on attack and more often than not we'd have a ten goal quarter and blow teams out of the water.

Was such an exciting time to support the dogs.

Agree. I also think it had a lot to do with the gap between expectations and reality. That's basically what happiness is. In 1996 we were so, so poor. In every facet of the club. Wallace brought such a new spark of energy to the club. We could not believe what were witnessing in 1997. The reality of 1997 Vs out expectations were so wide that our brains could not handle the overdosing of football dopamine. We were high. (The opposite to the 2017 season).

This is slight off topic but is worth a read https://collabfund.com/blog/what-makes-you-happy/

SonofScray
16-05-2023, 04:40 PM
Love Terry.

He left in really rocky circumstances and you can hear that it hurts him to think the relationship soured further than just moving on at one point.

In all, he is a legend and one of my favourite Footscray people. He should feel welcome at VUWO and IMO is absolutely loved and respected. Even if folk felt differently at one point, time heals all wounds.

MrMahatma
16-05-2023, 04:54 PM
Like Nathan Brown... I hated Wallace so much for leaving because I loved him so much at our club.

Bulldog Joe
16-05-2023, 05:37 PM
Many felt the same with regards to the way Wallace left so much so that the club never allowed a good bye game to go ahead for him. There was a chance that had the good bye game gone ahead for Wallace there would have been trouble from the stands.

There are many also that did not like the role Wallace played in the outing of Joyce.

The only problem I have with the outing of Joyce is that it should have happened earlier.

angelopetraglia
16-05-2023, 06:24 PM
Like Nathan Brown... I hated Wallace so much for leaving because I loved him so much at our club.

Ditto.

macca
16-05-2023, 06:30 PM
Out of necessity (no disrespect to Loaf and Cooky, but we weren't blessed with long-term key forwards), he was very innovative with regard to small forward rotations inside F50 to isolate and exploit mis-matches in our favour. In addition to the 3 players mentioned, he also got Rohan Smith, Simon Garlick and of course Brad Johnson into the rotations and they all kicked big bags up forward.

Apart from Darren Jarman (:(), no other coaches did this consistently before Plough. Unfortunately Plough's penchant for unpredictability became predictable in 2001 and 2002.

He was an excellent, innovative coach in his prime.

I look at this era was with such great hope ( we had a great chance to win a Premireship except for Jarman magic , twice he killed us), but very sad disappointment at opportunity lost. WE played an exciting brand of footy and was fun to watch all these players kick bags of goals.

So many iconic players. Sutherland, Gregic, Scotty west, Libba, Croft, even Curly ( before the umpire touch), Grant , even Campbell! was simon atkins playing during this time ?

We just missed another big forward which would have stood us in good stead to run to the finals.

angelopetraglia
17-05-2023, 03:31 PM
Had a chance to listen to this today. I could listen to Terry Wallace speak about football and especially the Bulldogs for days. It brought back some great memories (and some scars) of his time at the club.

Without a doubt he was such an important figure in the history of the club. He did take us to a new place in the footy landscape.

GVGjr
17-05-2023, 03:43 PM
Had a chance to listen to this today. I could listen to Terry Wallace speak about football and especially the Bulldogs for days. It brought back some great memories (and some scars) of his time a the club.

Without a doubt he was such an important figure in the history of the club. He did take us to a new place in the footy landscape.

He could write a book, really has a great recall of his football journey. I know he is happily retired but it's a loss not to have him in active in the media in some capacity.
I'd love to know if he really had the Swans job when he left us and if they did the right thing by him when they eventually took Roos over him.

angelopetraglia
17-05-2023, 03:56 PM
He could write a book, really has a great recall of his football journey. I know he is happily retired but it's a loss not to have him in active in the media in some capacity.
I'd love to know if he really had the Swans job when he left us and if they did the right thing by him when they eventually took Roos over him.

100%. Could not agree with your comments more.

soupman
21-05-2023, 06:31 PM
Listened to this today. Maybe the best podcast episode I've listened to. He is such a good guest and has so many iconic touchpoints to reference in hi time with us.

I've recommened the episode to a few others, but have also said that "Year of the Dogs' is probably worth watching n association with it. Does anyone know if it's anywhere to stream? It used to be on youtube but doesn't appear to be anymore.

angelopetraglia
21-05-2023, 06:38 PM
Has anyone listened to this episode "Footscray: So near yet so far" from the Nothin' like the 9s Podcast hosted by Anthony Hudson? Wallace was fantastic in this too. Went into some further detail that wasn't covered in the other podcast. It also has Mike Sheahan, David Smorgon, Brad Johnson, Danny Del-Re, Dennis Galimberti, Ross Oakley, Tim Lane and Tony Leonard.

Link: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/footscray-so-near-yet-so-far/id1675979507?i=1000610696176

macca
21-05-2023, 06:56 PM
Found it with luck
Year 2000
Round 21
Wb vs essendon
I recall were the only team that beat the cheats
https://youtu.be/8fA-LY7ur6c

angelopetraglia
21-05-2023, 08:57 PM
"This is the sort of the goal the champ might kick here. His kicked it. A magnificent effort. He will be a hero forever if they win this match."

westdog54
22-05-2023, 07:49 AM
Plough was on special comments for AFL Nation for the 2016 grand final. You could hear the emotion in his voice after Liam Picken kicked the sealer. Said he couldn't be more proud, and reflected on being at the club in '89 when they were basically told "it's over".

He was an innovator as a coach. I seen to recall he was the first to bring players out onto the field for the pre game warm up. He also was one of the more open coaches when it came to dealing with the media. Remember "Tuesdays with Terry"?

angelopetraglia
22-05-2023, 08:37 AM
Plough was on special comments for AFL Nation for the 2016 grand final. You could hear the emotion in his voice after Liam Picken kicked the sealer. Said he couldn't be more proud, and reflected on being at the club in '89 when they were basically told "it's over".

He was an innovator as a coach. I seen to recall he was the first to bring players out onto the field for the pre game warm up. He also was one of the more open coaches when it came to dealing with the media. Remember "Tuesdays with Terry"?

He tells the background of the story in regards to how he came up with the pre game warm up and argument he had with Ian Collins to get approval. It was 1998. We started that year incredibly well and by the middle of the season every club was doing it.