Priority Picks

[GVGjr]

I know this is a controversial subject but given the inadequacies of the fixture can we really have 2 dreadfully weak sides like West Coast and North Melbourne giving a select number of teams a substantially easier draw.

For example, by round 22 Essendon will have played both WC and North twice and you would assume that's 4 wins whereas we will have only had one game against North with West Coast being our opponent the following week.

I think that given we have two highly non competitive teams in the competition that is too much of a head start for the teams fortunate enough to draw them twice.

Could allocating a priority pick or two be the way to get them back to a more competitive position be the best solution?

[bulldogtragic]

Do they need to be traded for established players, or is the suggestion giving them more kids for the next year?

[GVGjr]

Do they need to be traded for established players, or is the suggestion giving them more kids for the next year?

I'd suggest that it should be similar to what was given to North last year. Tradeable picks might result in a quicker fix than going through the draft and develop process.

[azabob]

Do they need to be traded for established players, or is the suggestion giving them more kids for the next year?

Trading doesn't work when you are bottom of the ladder.

The only players who will come to you are ones chasing long term deals and cash. Not really the right type a bottom club needs.

[Boots]

A few years back there was a suggested fixture change where every team played each other once for the first 17 rounds and then there was a 5-round series of games with the league sorted into 3 6-team brackets. The problem apparently was that the bottom six teams had nothing to play for, which would make for some dreary games. This feels like a better fix than priority picks, although anything that disrupts Brisbane continuing its run of father-sons is fine by me. Love watching them play, still angry we lost Dunkley int he same year they picked up Fletcher and Ashcroft.

Imagine if they played 17 rounds, then did the draft, then did the 5 bracketed games. Top six could play for top four, middle six for the remaining two finals spots, and bottom six could 'blood the kids' immediately and deprive the media of six months of wild speculation.

[hujsh]

North already got the assistance. At a certain point they need to figure it out themselves. I'd wait on West Coast but would be hesitant to give them anything when they should have plenty of ways to attract talent back to WA. Including our own Timmy boy... wait...

Would giving them an extra pick mean more draft capital for us... I'm suddenly feeling the need to ensure an more competitive competition for some reason.

[bulldogtragic]

I'd suggest that it should be similar to what was given to North last year. Tradeable picks might result in a quicker fix than going through the draft and develop process.

Essentially pick 20 & 40 don’t compromise the draft too much. But is North better this year for the players?

It’s a tough one. But I agree something needs to happen.

[soupman]

A few years back there was a suggested fixture change where every team played each other once for the first 17 rounds and then there was a 5-round series of games with the league sorted into 3 6-team brackets. The problem apparently was that the bottom six teams had nothing to play for, which would make for some dreary games. This feels like a better fix than priority picks, although anything that disrupts Brisbane continuing its run of father-sons is fine by me. Love watching them play, still angry we lost Dunkley int he same year they picked up Fletcher and Ashcroft.

Imagine if they played 17 rounds, then did the draft, then did the 5 bracketed games. Top six could play for top four, middle six for the remaining two finals spots, and bottom six could 'blood the kids' immediately and deprive the media of six months of wild speculation.

With the cutoff being last round Gold Coast would have been consigned to the bottom six despite being just one win out of the eight, I don't think I like that.

[Grantysghost]

A few years back there was a suggested fixture change where every team played each other once for the first 17 rounds and then there was a 5-round series of games with the league sorted into 3 6-team brackets. The problem apparently was that the bottom six teams had nothing to play for, which would make for some dreary games. This feels like a better fix than priority picks, although anything that disrupts Brisbane continuing its run of father-sons is fine by me. Love watching them play, still angry we lost Dunkley int he same year they picked up Fletcher and Ashcroft.

Imagine if they played 17 rounds, then did the draft, then did the 5 bracketed games. Top six could play for top four, middle six for the remaining two finals spots, and bottom six could 'blood the kids' immediately and deprive the media of six months of wild speculation.

The bottom 6 would play for number of balls in a lottery or something.

Problem with that is - the Eagles would be the worst team ever nearly and get less chances of #1.

[Boots]

With the cutoff being last round Gold Coast would have been consigned to the bottom six despite being just one win out of the eight, I don't think I like that.

That problem isn't based on the length of the season. Every year someone gets cut off at the end. Remember us keeping Carlton out by percentage in the last game last year?

[bulldogtragic]

Trading doesn't work when you are bottom of the ladder.

The only players who will come to you are ones chasing long term deals and cash. Not really the right type a bottom club needs.

I tend to agree. Which is the dilemma.

I don’t want to go back to PP at the very front of the draft for tanking reasons, but it can be effective.

I guess this is the argument for trading salary cap space. North are struggling to pay minimum and WCE after retirements will struggle too. They could get some good draft capital without PPs. But will the likes of Geelong just exploit it on the flip side?

Back in the day we just let the fold (University), move (South Melbourne) or die an irrelevant death into merger (Fitzroy). It was natures way of cutting the dead wood. That’s probably the best thing if a club can’t be saved. With NMFC, if it wasn’t for the TV rights needing 18 teams and 9 games each week, I wonder if they’d be gone already.

Realistically, North should just go to Tassie. But to the OP, could the AFEL get creative and re-classify for a shitshow club all out of contract players as having RFA status and thereby the club could take a trade or compo - which is the better deal? I don’t know.

[azabob]

I know this is a controversial subject but given the inadequacies of the fixture can we really have 2 dreadfully weak sides like West Coast and North Melbourne giving a select number of teams a substantially easier draw.

For example, by round 22 Essendon will have played both WC and North twice and you would assume that's 4 wins whereas we will have only had one game against North with West Coast being our opponent the following week.

I think that given we have two highly non competitive teams in the competition that is too much of a head start for the teams fortunate enough to draw them twice.

Could allocating a priority pick or two be the way to get them back to a more competitive position be the best solution?

Does it depend on what stage of the cycle they are in? For example West Coast could use a PP but using the North situation they may benefit more from off field support such as soft cap relief or more investment is player development.

My concern with North Melbourne overall is they are making poor decisions off field. Appointing Clarkson was the wrong decision from the start and clearly is going to be a problem till he walks away or is sacked.

North have been making mistake after mistake off field since Brad Scott was shown the door.

I honestly cannot see them getting out of this hole in the next 3-5 years and by then players such as LDU and Larkey will be closer to 30 and be on the downhill slope.

Gold Coast need to think very long and very hard about appointing Damien Hardwick. I can see him dismantling the list and putting them back in the bottom four and they will not be able to get out.

[bornadog]

Realistically, North should just go to Tassie.

Genuine question - why? Why not say Hawks, or Saints who are in debt

[bulldogtragic]

Genuine question - why? Why not say Hawks, or Saints who are in debt

Same reason Fitzroy went to Brisbane. There’s a small core of good players, load them up with merger/new club concessions at the draft and they will be strong fairly quickly and hopefully galvanise the state around them. North is a genuine basket case. But it’s moot as the league won’t move any club. But in a free market, St Kilda would be in strife too.

[GVGjr]

Does it depend on what stage of the cycle they are in? For example West Coast could use a PP but using the North situation they may benefit more from off field support such as soft cap relief or more investment is player development.

My concern with North Melbourne overall is they are making poor decisions off field. Appointing Clarkson was the wrong decision from the start and clearly is going to be a problem till he walks away or is sacked.

North have been making mistake after mistake off field since Brad Scott was shown the door.

I honestly cannot see them getting out of this hole in the next 3-5 years and by then players such as LDU and Larkey will be closer to 30 and be on the downhill slope.

Gold Coast need to think very long and very hard about appointing Damien Hardwick. I can see him dismantling the list and putting them back in the bottom four and they will not be able to get out.

All legit concerns but if we are happy to accept that some teams will get a distinct advantage with two non competitive teams then there is no reason to change things and just allow the competition to balance out over time.

If we want to try and fix the bottom of the ladder given we won't fix the draw then there are just two levers we can pull and they're via priority picks or the salary cap.

[Sedat]

Gold Coast need to think very long and very hard about appointing Damien Hardwick. I can see him dismantling the list and putting them back in the bottom four and they will not be able to get out.
I reckon Hardwick can buck the trend of premiership coaches failing at their next club. They don't want for much on their list and he is still young enough and hungry for the opportunity of more success. He also has a terrific record in finals and overall - he's both topped up with trades and done the rebuild. He is a quality coach still at or near the top of his game - if he's doing it for the right reasons, he should succeed.

Still, it is a bit of a dog act taking over from a close mate (unless Dew already knew his intentions before-hand, and his very quick trip to Manchester suggests it wasn't exactly a massive surprise).

[hujsh]

I reckon Hardwick can buck the trend of premiership coaches failing at their next club. They don't want for much on their list and he is still young enough and hungry for the opportunity a more success. He also has a terrific record in finals and overall - he's both topped up with trades and done the rebuild. He is a quality coach still at or near the top of his game - if he's doing it for the right reasons, he should succeed.

Still, it is a bit of a dog act taking over from a close mate (unless Dew already knew his intentions before-hand, and his very quick trip to Manchester suggests it wasn't exactly a massive surprise).

Out of curiosity who was the last reappointed senior coach to win a Premiership? Or reach a GF? Or a prelim? Aside from Rocket I'm struggling a bit to think of any that have worked out in a while.

I guess Malthouse but he was at Collingwood for a long long time and then instantly fell apart at Carlton

[azabob]

Out of curiosity who was the last reappointed senior coach to win a Premiership? Or reach a GF? Or a prelim? Aside from Rocket I'm struggling a bit to think of any that have worked out in a while.

I guess Malthouse but he was at Collingwood for a long long time and then instantly fell apart at Carlton

Malthouse and Leigh Matthews - who had the help of the Lions players, draft concessions etc.

[Sedat]

Out of curiosity who was the last reappointed senior coach to win a Premiership? Or reach a GF? Or a prelim? Aside from Rocket I'm struggling a bit to think of any that have worked out in a while.

I guess Malthouse but he was at Collingwood for a long long time and then instantly fell apart at Carlton
Yep, was Mick at the filth 13 years ago.

Hardwick would have to defy very strong history but I think he has the capability (and emerging talented list) to do it. It won't be easy.

[Grantysghost]

Yep, was Mick at the filth 13 years ago.

Hardwick would have to defy very strong history but I think he has the capability (and emerging talented list) to do it. It won't be easy.

Making finals would be a massive win.

Winning the flag is dream land stuff.

[Flamethrower]

There are 2 issues - bad teams, and unfair fixtures.

There are always going to be bad teams - that is why we have a draft so that the worst teams get to draft the best kids coming into the system. Priority picks? Just say no.

And that leaves the fixture. I don't like the idea of playing all teams once and then making a new fixture for the last 5 games. Too much uncertainty for everyone.

My idea is to use the previous season's fixtures to split teams into 3 groups of 6. Top 6 play each other twice, middle 6 play each other twice and bottom 6 ditto. Play the other 12 once. Gather Round then allows the AFL to make sure we still get the 2 WA teams, 2 SA teams, 2 Qld teams and 2 NSW teams play each other twice. If they don't finish in the same group of 6, schedule them as game 23

For example last years' groups of 6 would have been...

Geelong, Sydney Swans, Melbourne, Collingwood, Fremantle, Brisbane Lions.
Richmond, Western Bulldogs, Carlton, St Kilda, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast Suns
Hawthorn, Adelaide, Essendon, GWS, West Coast Eagles, North Melbourne

Game 23 - Geelong v Richmond, Sydney v GWS, Melbourne v Essendon, Collingwood v Carlton, Fremantle v West Coast, Brisbane Lions v Gold Coast Suns, Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne, St Kilda v Hawthorn, Port Adelaide v Adelaide.

This would give the fixture a lot more transparency, and is probably as close to a fair fixture as you can get playing the season over 23 rounds. (Note that Essendon would still get to play North & WCE twice, but they were a stinking load of garbage last season too).

[hujsh]

There are 2 issues - bad teams, and unfair fixtures.

There are always going to be bad teams - that is why we have a draft so that the worst teams get to draft the best kids coming into the system. Priority picks? Just say no.

And that leaves the fixture. I don't like the idea of playing all teams once and then making a new fixture for the last 5 games. Too much uncertainty for everyone.

My idea is to use the previous season's fixtures to split teams into 3 groups of 6. Top 6 play each other twice, middle 6 play each other twice and bottom 6 ditto. Play the other 12 once. Gather Round then allows the AFL to make sure we still get the 2 WA teams, 2 SA teams, 2 Qld teams and 2 NSW teams play each other twice. If they don't finish in the same group of 6, schedule them as game 23

For example last years' groups of 6 would have been...

Geelong, Sydney Swans, Melbourne, Collingwood, Fremantle, Brisbane Lions.
Richmond, Western Bulldogs, Carlton, St Kilda, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast Suns
Hawthorn, Adelaide, Essendon, GWS, West Coast Eagles, North Melbourne

Game 23 - Geelong v Richmond, Sydney v GWS, Melbourne v Essendon, Collingwood v Carlton, Fremantle v West Coast, Brisbane Lions v Gold Coast Suns, Western Bulldogs v North Melbourne, St Kilda v Hawthorn, Port Adelaide v Adelaide.

This would give the fixture a lot more transparency, and is probably as close to a fair fixture as you can get playing the season over 23 rounds. (Note that Essendon would still get to play North & WCE twice, but they were a stinking load of garbage last season too).

Isn't that pretty much what we have now? I'm pretty sure the AFL does almost exactly what you've described and it creates the exact problem we have now of teams like Essendon getting lucky with 4 games against North and West Coast and it's potential impact on the ladder.

[Topdog]

Isn't that pretty much what we have now? I'm pretty sure the AFL does almost exactly what you've described and it creates the exact problem we have now of teams like Essendon getting lucky with 4 games against North and West Coast and it's potential impact on the ladder.

Yeah thats what I thought. It sounds like a good idea but any decent team that finishes bottom 6 just eats up the trash in the following season.

[bornadog]

The only fair way would be every one plays each other twice, but that is unrealistic as is every one plays each other once as the TV rights will be effected ie fewer games.

I have always said the best way would be every team plays each other once over the 17 games, then you play each other at least twice over the following years on a rolling basis, so that over 3/4 years (or whatever it works out), you play a team you haven't played before twice. Gather round can also be worked into it

[GVGjr]

SEN are indicating that North will receive pick 3 for McKay regardless if the financial offer triggers that level of compensation and then they'll also be able to secure Riley Sanders as a pre-selection and then also get an end of 1st round priority pick as well. The AFL are determined to get them 4 first round picks this year.

[hujsh]

boooo

[bulldogtragic]

SEN are indicating that North will receive pick 3 for McKay regardless if the financial offer triggers that level of compensation and then they'll also be able to secure Riley Sanders as a pre-selection and then also get an end of 1st round priority pick as well. The AFL are determined to get them 4 first round picks this year.

With that end of First, Port’s First they should absolutely trade Thomas for a late first (say our Brisbane pick or the reported Collingwood First) and make a serious play for the GCS then Pick 6.

So then they hold Picks 2, 3 & 6 plus 9 (where Twomey had Sanders).

Four top 10 kids. If they can’t take that and turn it into something then send them anywhere or fold them.

[bornadog]

they should absolutely trade Thomas for a late first (say our Brisbane pick )

I would do it. He is a talented player

[bulldogtragic]

I would do it. He is a talented player

If his life is now pulled together so would I. He’d be a dead set gun in our side.

Edit: Just read VicPol actually just dropped the more serious charges and offered him diversion (slap on the wrist) after the evidence was examined heading into a court hearing. Clearly, the prosecution was not prepared to walk into court with the allegations as originally made by police.

But in any event, if his got it together a fresh start with a group of exciting players and a strong indigenous presence now might be just what he needs to grow into the player he should become.

[bornadog]

If his life is now pulled together so would I. He’d be a dead set gun in our side.

He has sorted thing with his girlfriend as the charges of distributing photos has been dropped.

He is still only 23 years old.

[bulldogtragic]

He has sorted thing with his girlfriend as the charges of distributing photos has been dropped.

He is still only 23 years old.

He’s the sort of trade target I’m after. Hitting their prime with 200 games left in them. Someone who surrounded with better coaches and guns players around them on game day will reach their potential.

If this trade gets North Pick 6 from GCS, GCS subs get all their academy kids without deficit then AFEL HQ will be very happy. Everybody wins. I can see why Collingwood are reportedly chasing him too. His game on the weekend was outstanding. In a good side he could really impose himself on the comp.

[bornadog]

He’s the sort of trade target I’m after. Hitting their prime with 200 games left in them. Someone who surrounded with better coaches and guns players around them on game day will reach their potential.

If this trade gets North Pick 6 from GCS, GCS subs get all their academy kids without deficit then AFEL HQ will be very happy. Everybody wins. I can see why Collingwood are reportedly chasing him too. His game on the weekend was outstanding. In a good side he could really impose himself on the comp.

Spot on BT

[bulldogtragic]

Spot on BT

Yep. Enough with the top ups of Keath, Bruce & Lobb. If we are parting with picks we need a different profile.

[mjp]

He has sorted thing with his girlfriend as the charges of distributing photos has been dropped.


The charges have been dropped or he didn't do it?

Sorry but I don't understand why we would do this...and I've sort of been defending this player all the way through saying he needed the SUPPORT of the footy club/community and not to be held outside it.

He isn't OUR player though...why import potential problems that have both on-field and off-field implications.

Dislike.

[bulldogtragic]

The charges have been dropped or he didn't do it?

Sorry but I don't understand why we would do this...and I've sort of been defending this player all the way through saying he needed the SUPPORT of the footy club/community and not to be held outside it.

He isn't OUR player though...why import potential problems that have both on-field and off-field implications.

Dislike.

He didn’t commit the offences as charged, so they dropped them after the evidence wasn’t strong.

Why can’t we take him on? Can we not get the best out of him? (As prefaced, if his life is now in order)

[bornadog]

The charges have been dropped or he didn't do it?

Sorry but I don't understand why we would do this...and I've sort of been defending this player all the way through saying he needed the SUPPORT of the footy club/community and not to be held outside it.

He isn't OUR player though...why import potential problems that have both on-field and off-field implications.

Dislike.

I don't believe he impacted other players at the club (I could be wrong). He certainly had off field issues.


He didn’t commit the offences as charged, so they dropped them after the evidence wasn’t strong.

Why can’t we take him on? Can we not get the best out of him? (As prefaced, if his life is now in order)

correct

[Bulldog Joe]

SEN are indicating that North will receive pick 3 for McKay regardless if the financial offer triggers that level of compensation and then they'll also be able to secure Riley Sanders as a pre-selection and then also get an end of 1st round priority pick as well. The AFL are determined to get them 4 first round picks this year.

So the AFL have decided that North are to become the Tasmanian Kangaroos and avoid the 19th licence.

[Grantysghost]

So the AFL have decided that North are to become the Tasmanian Kangaroos and avoid the 19th licence.

Crazy. This is what they did for Melbourne when they were a basket case.
Next step will be appointing their own coach and CEO. (Roos and Jackson).

[The bulldog tragician]

The charges have been dropped or he didn't do it?

Sorry but I don't understand why we would do this...and I've sort of been defending this player all the way through saying he needed the SUPPORT of the footy club/community and not to be held outside it.

He isn't OUR player though...why import potential problems that have both on-field and off-field implications.

Dislike.

I’d be extremely reluctant to take a player with a history of violence. Drug, alcohol, mental health challenges can be overcome. To me threats of violence denote a mindset and atttudes towards women that I don’t want to see at our club The change to the charges was technical to the lay person. According to the ABC:

….Prosecutors agreed to drop the charge of threatening to distribute an intimate image, and replaced it with another offence of using a carriage service to harass.

Things aren’t sorted out with his ex girlfriend either, she has been in the media slamming the justice system and says she knows two other women harassed by him that haven’t come forward.

[GVGjr]

While he's 23 and technically his best years are ahead of him Thomas has behaved more like a 16 yo and and immature one at that. While noting his talent I'd still want a significant discount to consider bringing him to our club.
Look no further than Stephenson's arrival at North as example on how things don't always work with a distracted player.

[bulldogtragic]

While he's 23 and technically his best years are ahead of him Thomas has behaved more like a 16 yo and and immature one at that. While noting his talent I'd still want a significant discount to consider bringing him to our club.
Look no further than Stephenson's arrival at North as example on how things don't always work with a distracted player.

Our culture = North culture ?

[bulldogsthru&thru]

SEN are indicating that North will receive pick 3 for McKay regardless if the financial offer triggers that level of compensation and then they'll also be able to secure Riley Sanders as a pre-selection and then also get an end of 1st round priority pick as well. The AFL are determined to get them 4 first round picks this year.

And on goes the cycle of the afel stepping in, tampering with the draft and propping a team up that got itself in a mess because of poor decisions it made.

[bornadog]

And on goes the cycle of the afel stepping in, tampering with the draft and propping a team up that got itself in a mess because of poor decisions it made.

AFL - worst administered professional comp in the world

[GVGjr]

And on goes the cycle of the afel stepping in, tampering with the draft and propping a team up that got itself in a mess because of poor decisions it made.

From my perspective we aren't doing it just for them we are doing it for the sake of the competition and only because of the advantage of teams drawing WC and North twice each this year when the majority of teams only play them once. You might be able to carry one team in the competition that is a long way behind the others but two teams is too many.

If they land 4 early picks this year then the AFL needs to be firm and say that's it and nothing else for at least the next 5 years.

[Bulldog Joe]

AFL - worst administered professional comp in the world

Unfortunately this is not correct.

Not to say they are not inept, but my Sydney mate tells me they are so far ahead of Rugby both League and Union it is not even close.

It is what you get when you have rivers of money flowing for effectively protected employees with no understanding of responsibility and integrity.

[soupman]

AFL - worst administered professional comp in the world

Man you are gonna love the A-League.

[jeemak]

Man you are gonna love the A-League.

He did say professional.

[Sedat]

Man you are gonna love the A-League.
They should manage all witness protection programs because no other organisation is so skilfully adept at eliminating every single shred of publicity and exposure.

[bulldogtragic]

The good news for us is that it looks like Essendon are refusing to offer anything more than $600,000 to Ben McKay meaning there’s no way the AFEL can offer up anything more than an end of First Rounder. Which is still a little generous. But anyhoo.

For us it means our firsts are just a little better for trading, and the GCS Pick would remain at Pick 4. Right in the sweet spot for the pointy end talent even allowing for one bid before - if we can trade it off them.

[The Doctor]

The good news for us is that it looks like Essendon are refusing to offer anything more than $600,000 to Ben McKay meaning there’s no way the AFEL can offer up anything more than an end of First Rounder. Which is still a little generous. But anyhoo.

For us it means our firsts are just a little better for trading, and the GCS Pick would remain at Pick 4. Right in the sweet spot for the pointy end talent even allowing for one bid before - if we can trade it off them.

I will wager that the AFL will still turn the McKay compo into a priority pick next to their 1st. Its just so AFL to meddle.

[bulldogtragic]

I will wager that the AFL will still turn the McKay compo into a priority pick next to their 1st. Its just so AFL to meddle.

If they’re transparent we all have to cop it. If they try to slide it through, then there should be hell to pay.

North should target the Sydney’s first is its lie enough with Port’s First & 19. If they can get two top 10’s and Sanders as a top 10 charity too they should be content. The WCE bulk up picks too.

But let’s see if it’s only $600,000…

[The Doctor]

For us it means our firsts are just a little better for trading, and the GCS Pick would remain at Pick 4. Right in the sweet spot for the pointy end talent even allowing for one bid before - if we can trade it off them.

a couple of big IFS but it would be awesome if we could pull it off

If we get pick 4 and If Twomey's latest Draft guide is anything to go by we could land the Wizz. I would be very happy.

[mjp]

a couple of big IFS but it would be awesome if we could pull it off

If we get pick 4 and If Twomey's latest Draft guide is anything to go by we could land the Wizz. I would be very happy.

The story I'm hearing is that every club with the exception of West Coast and NM are trying to get pick 4. Last year interest was not that high as taking on both Bowes and his contract was not seen as super positive by the majority of clubs...

I'm still not sure how we offer enough to get it done.

[bornadog]

Tom Morris
North Melbourne has applied for a priority pick at the top of the draft, but Laura Kane's recommendation to the AFL Commission will instead likely be late first rounders in 2023/24, + a second rounder in 2024.


@NMFCOfficial - would be free to use these three selections however it chooses.


Gil is strongly involved in the Commission's decision, which will come on Monday. Whether they adopt the recommendations remains to be seen.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Tom Morris
North Melbourne has applied for a priority pick at the top of the draft, but Laura Kane's recommendation to the AFL Commission will instead likely be late first rounders in 2023/24, + a second rounder in 2024.


@NMFCOfficial - would be free to use these three selections however it chooses.


Gil is strongly involved in the Commission's decision, which will come on Monday. Whether they adopt the recommendations remains to be seen.

Late first rounder is not pick 11. It should be end of first round if they can do whatever they like with it. I don't think they should have anything all but that doesn't sound like pick 11 to me.